Fedor to UFC on Friday?

Frankmagnet

http://mmamania.com/2009/07/28/la-times-reports-that-fedor-emelianenko-and-ufc-are-finalizing-deal/

Hopefully

Wont get excited until it is official.

JokerD

Yea just read that there, you're right not to get your hopes up just yet, its never been straight forward between Fedor and the UFC, if its true Fedor v Lesnar is on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Professey Chin

Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee be true!!!
Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please
PLEASE!!

Hellsing

Until I see Fedor in the octagon I'm not getting my hopes up. I've been hearing these same stories for years.

Mossy Monk

I would gladly do my happy dance if I was to see him destroy Brock Lesnar

Mellor

When fedor fought Nogueira the first time, and it was rules a no contest because of a heabutt, who head butted who?

calex71

Mellor wrote: »

When fedor fought Nogueira the first time, and it was rules a no contest because of a heabutt, who head butted who?

Fedor was at fault see here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdhXfR4Ep4c

If we want to be correct about it, it was actually his 2nd of 3 fights with Nog

ginoginelli

Mellor wrote: »

When fedor fought Nogueira the first time, and it was rules a no contest because of a heabutt, who head butted who?

Nog headbutted fedor and cut him.

Now stay on topic please :eek:

Just saw that video,,looks just like an unfortunate clash of heads..

mirwillbeback

Isn't that the site that reported the Kimo " death ".

Wouldn't be getting over excited.

dunkamania

Fedor has a press conference today, no reason given, I wouldnt expect him to be talking publicly 2 days before the UFC were going to announce signing him. So I am remaining sceptical, but still hopeful

Jason Mc

I do hope its true but I'd like to see him have a warm up fight before brock

Just to get the feel for the cage.


I think Brock is a bigger threat than most people give him credit for.

ginoginelli

no warm up! straight for the jugular!

Killme00

Jason Mc wrote: »

I think Brock is a bigger threat than most people give him credit for.

+ 10000000

It will be wierd when Lesnar beats Fedor and then Tim Silvia beats Lesnar.

Raze_them_all

Killme00 wrote: »

+ 10000000

It will be wierd when Lesnar beats Fedor and then Tim Silvia beats Lesnar.

Most dreams are weird alright!

chopperbyrne

Killme00 wrote: »

+ 10000000

It will be wierd when Lesnar beats Fedor and then Tim Silvia beats Lesnar.

Tim Sylvia wouldn't stand a chance against Brock Lesnar. It would be more one sided than Lesnar/Herring.

Killme00

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Tim Sylvia wouldn't stand a chance against Brock Lesnar. It would be more one sided than Lesnar/Herring.

What makes you say that? Sylvia is huge and very tough to take down, has a longer reach and could easily outpoint Lesnar over three or five rounds imo. I am not taking anything from Lesnar because i actually believe he could beat Fedor, i just think Sylvia is built to beat him in terms of style.

Raze_them_all

Killme00 wrote: »

What makes you say that? Sylvia is huge and very tough to take down, has a longer reach and could easily outpoint Lesnar over three or five rounds imo. I am not taking anything from Lesnar because i actually believe he could beat Fedor, i just think Sylvia is built to beat him in terms of style.

Well Fedor beat him in 36 secons and he got beat quicker than than in his last fight I do believe by Ray mercier IIRC, Before that fight he lost to randy....

Killme00

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Well Fedor beat him in 36 secons and he got beat quicker than than in his last fight I do believe by Ray mercier IIRC, Before that fight he lost to randy....

Yes, he has lost four of his last five (three of those against top class guys). How does that add up to Lesnar beating him?

My original point was that it will be amazing when Lesnar beats Fedor and then loses to Sylvia, it kin of a style merrigoround, unless Fedor beats Lesnar!

Raze_them_all

Killme00 wrote: »

Yes, he has lost four of his last five (three of those against top class guys). How does that add up to Lesnar beating him?

My original point was that it will be amazing when Lesnar beats Fedor and then loses to Sylvia, it kin of a style merrigoround, unless Fedor beats Lesnar!

Well if we go on passed performance... Brock looks better, beating Randy.
I see what your saying but your presuming Brock will beat Fedor, then your presuming Sylvia will get back in the ufc and Beat brock... i dont ever see that happening tbh

ginoginelli

Alot of mma math here. I actually thought tim would have a pretty good shot against brock before the mercer fight. Now im not so sure..

Hellsing

Killme00 wrote: »

What makes you say that? Sylvia is huge and very tough to take down, has a longer reach and could easily outpoint Lesnar over three or five rounds imo. I am not taking anything from Lesnar because i actually believe he could beat Fedor, i just think Sylvia is built to beat him in terms of style.

Sylvia's not that hard to take down. Randy took him down repeatedly, Nog took him down and so did Jeff Monson. A wrestler the quality of Lesnar would have no problems getting Big Tim to the mat.
It's certainly conceivable that Sylvia could outpoint Lesnar but he has a terrible habit of getting caught with big strikes early in the fight, as evidenced by the first two Arlovski fights, the Randy fight and even his fight with Cabbage back in the day. If Brock lands clean early on then Sylvia will be out. Brock has that kind of power.

Raze_them_all

Hellsing wrote: »

Sylvia's not that hard to take down. Randy took him down repeatedly, Nog took him down and so did Jeff Monson. A wrestler the quality of Lesnar would have no problems getting Big Tim to the mat.
It's certainly conceivable that Sylvia could outpoint Lesnar but he has a terrible habit of getting caught with big strikes early in the fight, as evidenced by the first two Arlovski fights, the Randy fight and even his fight with Cabbage back in the day. If Brock lands clean early on then Sylvia will be out. Brock has that kind of power.

I'm sorry but I don't agree with this, I have yet to see Brock knock anybody out.

Hellsing

Raze_them_all wrote: »

I'm sorry but I don't agree with this, I have yet to see Brock knock anybody out.

He almost put Randy out with a punch that barely landed. That would suggest big power

Kazooie

Hellsing wrote: »

He almost put Randy out with a punch that barely landed. That would suggest big power

That landed behind his ear though IIRC. Not taking anything away from the win, and I've never taken a punch in my life but I'd say that is a bad place to take a shot.

As it stands Brock has not KO'd anyone cleanly as of yet.

Raze_them_all

Hellsing wrote: »

He almost put Randy out with a punch that barely landed. That would suggest big power

He's landed bigger and cleaner punches and has yet to knock anybody out. That would suggest a lack of KO power

Jason Mc

I tell u what. Anyone who walks onto brocks punch is gonna be in trouble

It just depends on his timing and ability to land a clean shot

IMO :pac:

chopperbyrne

Pure KO power in a punch isn't as important in MMA as it is in boxing.

In three of his four UFC fights, Brock has knocked his opponents to the ground with a single punch and then gained control on the ground.

soretoe

Anyone thought of what happens, if?
If, Fedor signs with UFC under whatever conditions and fights Brock which Dana says he would do first - but loses? (which would make Dana's year)
Who would Fedor fight next? or would it be a re-match most probably?
No matter who wins, will it be a re-match situation do yez think?

Zero-Cool

I'd say maybe Mir as he was going on about fighting Fedor.

Would be so class to see Fedor KO Lesnar. If Fedor is signed to UFC, Dana White will start shi**ing money

Tones69

Killme00 wrote: »

What makes you say that? Sylvia is huge and very tough to take down, has a longer reach and could easily outpoint Lesnar over three or five rounds imo. I am not taking anything from Lesnar because i actually believe he could beat Fedor, i just think Sylvia is built to beat him in terms of style.

All tim is doing lately is getting knocked the fook out, ray mercer ko'd him in 20 secs....Brock would hand him his ass on a plate

Karmafaerie

Every single fighter who's fought Brock has commentated on the power in his hands.
But I'm sure ye know lots more than the guys who've felt the punches.

He doesn't have great technique (yet) but he most certainly has amazing power.
It's the weight mixed with the strenght and speed.
He has all three, and in abundance.



As for Sylvia Brock would take him down with ease.
I can't see him dominating him, but he would win easily IMO.

supremenovice

Brocks biggest weaknesses are his submission defence and, even more so, his composure in big matches. I really dont think Brock has the self belief that Fedor has. He has shown signs to me that he is vulnerable under pressure.
Does that childish outburst after the Mir fight make him look like a man who believes in himself?
Fedor will remain confident and composed from the first bell and stop Brock in 1rd.

Maynard

Balls...

http://mmamania.com/2009/07/29/fedor-emelianenko-inks-deal-with-ea-sports-negotiations-with-ufc-still-ongoi/

“Weak Sauce”



This is bad news.
The EA Sports thing will be seen as a slap in the face to the UFC
but more importantly…
The duel-promotion thing will simply NEVER FLY with the UFC. EVER.
This douchebag thinks HE’S “worked too hard” to build up M1-Global?!!
Multiply that by a billion and you are where the UFC feel they are right now.
Sad news. IMHO if Fedor doesn’t break his ties with M1 we will never see him fight in the UFC. End of story:(

jayteecork

Fedor will haver to go to UFc now, there's no money anywhere else now.

Also, why the **** are people harping on about Tim Sylvia.

He's finished. He's been brutally KOed in every bout lately.

ginoginelli

Raze_them_all wrote: »

He's landed bigger and cleaner punches and has yet to knock anybody out. That would suggest a lack of KO power

thats absolute nonsence. Brock has crazy power. In 3 of his 5 fights he's knocked his opponents down, Give him some time n im sure ull see a few 1 punch knockouts.

Fedor and page have crazy knockout power too but not a huge amount of kos on their record.

Looks like Fedor wont be going to the ufc after all anyway. What is that ficklstein guy thinking? Its absurd n totally unrealistic to expect the ufc to promote their nothing organization. Hoepfully its just a negotiation ploy.

Maynard

In an attempt to lighten the mood re this topic I came across this, frankly hilarious, video. Very funny and yet very accurate methinks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3xIqksOgww

Fromvert

I find them videos hilarious.

Mellor

calex71 wrote: »

Fedor was at fault see here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdhXfR4Ep4c

Can't get the video here, but thanks.

If we want to be correct about it, it was actually his 2nd of 3 fights with Nog

Correct is always best.

ginoginelli wrote: »

Nog headbutted fedor and cut him.

Now stay on topic please :eek:

Calex said it was Fedor, you say nog???
Who was it?

And I fail to see how discussing Fedors record isn't on topic?
When talking of Fedors potential in the UFC, sure his 30-1-1 record is important. The figures alone are damn impressive, more so when you consider the fact that his only lose was to an illegal blow that the ref missed (wouldn't of happened in the UFC )

Raze_them_all wrote: »

I'm sorry but I don't agree with this, I have yet to see Brock knock anybody out.

To be fair, look at who he has fought. With the exception of his first fight. All his opponents have rarely been knocked out. And it was mostly to multiple strikes,

Karmafaerie

Mellor wrote: »

The figures alone are damn impressive, more so when you consider the fact that his only lose was to an illegal blow that the ref missed (wouldn't of happened in the UFC )

Tell that to Matt Hughes (Trigg), Anthony Johnson (Burns), Mustapha Al Turk (Cro Cop) etc...

Mellor

To be fair , Hughes won the fight anyway, Johnson faked the loss so that he could come back with that head kick in the rematch, and Turk was screwed anyway :D:D

ShaneU

He's the face of the new MMA game from EA.

Dana said he wouldn't sign anyone who was associated with it.

Mossy Monk

Maynard wrote: »

This is bad news.
The EA Sports thing will be seen as a slap in the face to the UFC
but more importantly…

Randy Couture is signed up with EA too.

dunkamania

Dana said that he would cut any fighters that signed up for it. Randy is different as one of the few fighters that own his own image rights.

Following on from the Fedor conference, it seems very likely that Fedor will be in the UFC unless he decides to ditch M-1 Global. Expecting an announcement on Friday in relation to a tv deal with ESPN-uk or something equally disappointing

calex71

dunkamania wrote: »

or something equally disappointing

As is the norm these days when dana says that there is a BIGGGGGGGGGGG announcement :mad:

What was it the last time he said there was a big announcement? cant have been that good as i cant remember

dunkamania

According to Carmichael Dave UFC offered the following to Fedor, and was turned down

-The UFC offered Fedor a 6 fight, 30 million dollar contract.

- The UFC offered Fedor an immediate title shot

- Lesnar/Fedor would be the biggest PPV in MMA history (we assume), and the UFC offered M-1 Global a cut of the PPV on top of Fedor's purse.

- Fedor was free to wear as many M-1 logoed items as he wished.

- The UFC also relented on allowing Fedor to compete in combat sambo.

Apparently, for good or bad, M-1 refuses to sign a deal unless the UFC agrees to co-promote

Kazooie

dunkamania wrote: »

According to Carmichael Dave UFC offered the following to Fedor, and was turned down

-The UFC offered Fedor a 6 fight, 30 million dollar contract.

- The UFC offered Fedor an immediate title shot

- Lesnar/Fedor would be the biggest PPV in MMA history (we assume), and the UFC offered M-1 Global a cut of the PPV on top of Fedor's purse.

- Fedor was free to wear as many M-1 logoed items as he wished.

- The UFC also relented on allowing Fedor to compete in combat sambo.

Apparently, for good or bad, M-1 refuses to sign a deal unless the UFC agrees to co-promote

Where did you see that dude? If it's true then we can hardly blame UFC if he doesn't sign. They've conceeded a lot there to entice him if it's true.

jayteecork

dunkamania wrote: »

According to Carmichael Dave UFC offered the following to Fedor, and was turned down

-The UFC offered Fedor a 6 fight, 30 million dollar contract.

- The UFC offered Fedor an immediate title shot

- Lesnar/Fedor would be the biggest PPV in MMA history (we assume), and the UFC offered M-1 Global a cut of the PPV on top of Fedor's purse.

- Fedor was free to wear as many M-1 logoed items as he wished.

- The UFC also relented on allowing Fedor to compete in combat sambo.

Apparently, for good or bad, M-1 refuses to sign a deal unless the UFC agrees to co-promote

30 million for 6 fights? Can't imagine that's true.

dunkamania

Carmichael Dave posted it on Sherdog, I saw it on Bloody Elbow.

Its unconfirmed, so treat it for what its worth.

30m for 6 fights for Fedor is reasonable, I even think there could be some PPV incentives on top of it. Lesnar vs Fedor would likely be the biggest PPV to date for the UFC, easily recouping the 30 million they would pay to Fedor over all 6 fights.

If the details are true, I would say that the UFC are being more than fair, altohugh no details on image rights etc.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/7/29/968573/report-what-the-ufc-offered-fedor

Jason Mc

After all this time poor Dana was a nice guy

pablohoney87

Just as a side note.
Oe of the best fedor HL's ive seen. Has footage from his early sambo days too.
http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_The_Never_Ending_Story_Of_Fedor_Emelianenko?vid=10004202&tid=100

jayteecork

If Fedor doesn't accept that offer he can **** right off.

What more leeway does he want?

One would think he's running scared from Lesnar at this point.
He knows his reuptation that he spent years building could be taken from him in one fight.