Barry gets two life sentences for rape of student

snowy2008

Gerard Barry is now serving two life sentences, what a scumbag, he shouldnt be let out again ever

kinetic

The longer that evil b....rd is off the streets the better.

goldenbrown

now clear that this guy can never be free..the mystery of evil in action

snowy2008

how long is a life sentence? the guy should be neutered

ronnie3585

teresa2008 wrote: »

how long is a life sentence?

The average is about 11 years (according to most recent stats), however in this case it is highly likely (and I sincerely hope) that this sub-human animal will never see the light of day.

Zzippy

teresa2008 wrote: »

Gerard Barry is now serving two life sentences, what a scumbag, he shouldnt be let out again ever

I think its now 3 life sentences, one for the murder of Manuela Riedo and 2 for the rape of the French student. Just a pity they're not consecutive.
http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/barry-gets-two-life-sentences-for-rape-of-student-1839396.html

ronnie3585 wrote: »

The average is about 11 years (according to most recent stats), however in this case it is highly likely (and I sincerely hope) that this sub-human animal will never see the light of day.

I think I read recently its more like 18 years average, although parole is at the discretion of the Minister for Justice, so hopefully he will be a very old man by the time he gets out, if ever.

pleasant Co.

Zzippy wrote: »

I think its now 3 life sentences, one for the murder of Manuela Riedo and 2 for the rape of the French student. Just a pity they're not consecutive.
http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/barry-gets-two-life-sentences-for-rape-of-student-1839396.html

Thanks Zzippy, I was just about to ask that.

onemorechance

What's wrong is that the sentence starts today and not at the end of his sentence for the murder of Maneula. Two unrelated crimes and he gets to serve sentences for both in paralell, that is completely wrong.

He sentenced Gerald Barry to a life sentence on counts one and two of oral and anal rape, both life sentences to run concurrently and to run from today.

Mossy Monk

onemorechance wrote: »

What's wrong is that the sentence starts today and not at the end of his sentence for the murder of Maneula. Two unrelated crimes and he gets to serve sentences for both in paralell, that is completely wrong.

It's absolute bull**** if you ask me.

death1234567

Mossy Monk wrote: »

It's absolute bull**** if you ask me.

Same for everything, sentences run concurrently for the most part. Joke nation.

teresa2008 wrote: »

how long is a life sentence? the guy should be neutered

the guy should be executed.

kellsum

Is it not a bit futile giving him a concurrent life sentence when he is already serving a life sentence? what purpose does it serve?

Should it not be consecutive so that he would never see the light of day again!

ronnie3585

Zzippy wrote: »

I think I read recently its more like 18 years average, although parole is at the discretion of the Minister for Justice, so hopefully he will be a very old man by the time he gets out, if ever.

Off the top of my head I think the most recent Probation Service figures put the average life sentence at 11 and three quater years. I don't think there has been any time in the last thirty years where the average was above 13. However, these are only mean figures with some prisoners never getting out and some serving only very short sentences.

I happened to be in court this morning when sentencing was passed. The fu*ker didn't even bat an eyelid. Pure evil.

dixiefly

There is something seriously seriously wrong with our criminal justice system that resulted in him being free to walk the streets and commit murder after being caught for the rape.

Surely there should be an investigation into how it is that he was let out having committed such a crime and to ensure that a similar situation would not occur again.

Zzippy

http://www.tribune.ie/article/2008/dec/28/life-now-nears-life/

17 years according to the Prison Service

tred

Its guys like this that would tell you , bring back the Hangmans Noose. This guy souldnt be let near society again. Animal. Many people come from tough backgrounds, hardships. but they dont all turn into animals like this guy. What hes done to those girls and what hes done to the reputation of ireland and galway....

mandysmithers

Is there anyone on the board who can tell us why prison sentences are run concurrently so often?

No wonder that fucker didn't bat an eyelid - today's sentence makes no difference to his time in jail.


Seriously, he is an unbelievable danger to society, and I would be very afraid if I heard he was being let out in 11 years time. This is not a 'revenge fantasy' that you read so much on AH, but he should never be let back into society.

You'd wonder what the mother of an animal like that thinks of him, or would she be just as crazy if she brought him up and he turned out like that.

shampoosuicide

no doubt the fascists are going to lock this thread, so i'll say this very quickly: if he gets out, i'll personally kill the ****er myself. slowly and painfully

mandysmithers

shampoosuicide wrote: »

no doubt the fascists are going to lock this thread, so i'll say this very quickly: if he gets out, i'll personally kill the ****er myself. slowly and painfully

Good luck with that. He's a total mentalist. If he gets out I'll be avoiding him at all costs.

Sconsey

It's a total joke that the sentences are carried out concurrently. That lad should be locked up for life (not 13 or 17 years or whatever it is).

KittyeeTrix

Every citizen in Galway should take to the streets marching if that w**ker ever gets to roam free again:mad:

Bloody disgraceful that it would even be a remote possibility that after what he did to those poor students, he could one day be a free man......

FFS, we put dogs down when they attack people. The dog cannot make choices like a human can. He's worse than a dog. He's sub-human, a stain on the map of creation

KittyeeTrix

Sconsey wrote: »

It's a total joke that the sentences are carried out concurrently. That lad should be locked up for life (not 13 or 17 years or whatever it is).

I can't believe that in 13 years my now 10 year old daughter may be attending GMIT and up the road in Mervue an animal of Barry's nature coould be walking the street beside her.....

IT'S NOT RIGHT:mad:

shampoosuicide

fluffyorganic1 wrote: »

Every citizen in Galway should take to the streets marching if that w**ker ever gets to roam free again:mad:

Bloody disgraceful that it would even be a remote possibility that after what he did to those poor students, he could one day be a free man......

FFS, we put dogs down when they attack people. The dog cannot make choices like a human can. He's worse than a dog. He's sub-human, a stain on the map of creation

couldn't agree more. i think the protesting should start now.

mandysmithers

fluffyorganic1 wrote: »

Every citizen in Galway should take to the streets marching if that w**ker ever gets to roam free again:mad:

+ 1,000,000,000

I'll be there if it ever happens.

kellsum

To be honest the justice system in this country is a joke! life should mean life, we should look for a stronger penal system and not the half arsed system we have!

onemorechance

mandysmithers wrote: »

Is there anyone on the board who can tell us why prison sentences are run concurrently so often?

Prison sentences run concurrently when the crimes result from one / same incident. An example would be a rape where the rapist then murdered the victim. They may receive x years for rape and x years for murder, but the sentences will run concurrently because both crimes happened during the same incident. This is my understanding, so I do not see why this waste of a person gets to serve this new sentence at the same time as he is serving a sentence for an un-related crime.

This waste of a person has no use or purpose whatsoever, and yet he is living the life in jail putting meat on his scrawny frame so that he can come out and do the same again.

onemorechance

I hope this is true, quote from the Irish Times:

The life sentence given for the rape, coupled with the life sentence he is already serving for murder, means Barry could spend the rest of his life in jail.

Maybe, a life sentence means that the person will be up before a review board after X amount of years, and often they are let out, which is why a life sentence is often taking as meaning X years. I cannot see this waste ever passing any review board, I so f##king hope.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0724/breaking35.htm

mandysmithers

onemorechance wrote: »

This waste of a person has no use or purpose whatsoever, and yet he is living the life in jail putting meat on his scrawny frame so that he can come out and do the same again.

Not only that, but he's already killed one person, has been involved somehow in another killing, and destroyed that poor French student's life. He'd more than likely re-offend if he was released, so he's a danger to society.

My question is, how do we get tougher sentences? What can the average Joe Soap do about that? And while in prison, can the prisoners be made to smash rocks or something else equally tough and boring. Or at least do something useful....whatever that would be though, I don't know. I doubt they'd make/produce anything of quality.

Amalgam

Spare a thought for the pensioner he blinded.. There's a post\thread somewhere on boards.ie, the event was totally spineless. Not to mention being linked to another man's death.

ronnie3585

mandysmithers wrote: »

My question is, how do we get tougher sentences? What can the average Joe Soap do about that? And while in prison, can the prisoners be made to smash rocks or something else equally tough and boring. Or at least do something useful....whatever that would be though, I don't know. I doubt they'd make/produce anything of quality.

I couldn't agree more. The average cost of keeping a prisoner in Mountjoy for a year is approx €90k. Prisoners should be made earn their keep and actually contribute something to society during thier incarceration. To me, Sheriff Joe Arpaio's approach makes a lot of sense.

LowOdour

Drove past the gaa pitch in mervue today where it happened, made me sick to my stomach. As has been said, a good reason for the death penalty to be brought back. We all know the justice system is flawed, a joke alot of the time but this c*nt must not be given the oppurtunity to do this again.

gary82

So he could have been given 30 life sentences today for doing it to a load of girls.... and it'd just be the same time behind bars at the end of the day??

We've something very wrong with the system.

Also interesting that he's getting a heavier sentence for the rape than the murder. Just saw herethat he was involved with the murder of Tipp man Colm Phelan in Eyre Square in '96 as well.

He probably realised that he hasn't going to get away with the rape - so murdering Manuela might not have been much of a big deal for him as it wouldn't increase his jail time by a day. Buy one get as many more as you want for free? :mad: What a mess of a system.

soundbyte

A life sentence in Ireland is actually life. However, the Minister for Justice can release you on licence, but the sentence can be re-activated at any point.

Take these guys for example, in for 30 years (they were caught in Salthill in the 70s ... bad, bad fcukers):

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/murderous-sex-predator-in-coma-on-life-support-1591625.html

WesternNight

soundbyte wrote: »

A life sentence in Ireland is actually life. However, the Minister for Justice can release you on licence, but the sentence can be re-activated at any point.

Yes, and I would imagine that having been sentenced three times to life imprisonment would mean a very slim chance of getting out. If the Minister for Justice decides it's a good idea to let him out, there'll be absolute war.

Seemingly he's beginning to show a bit of remorse for what he did. Apparently he "is realising the impact his actions have had on his victims". I think that's according to his solicitor, but don't quote me on that. My mother told me that this morning but not sure where she heard so I could be mistaken.

But if that's the case, trying to set the wheels in motion for early release already, it seems.

gary82

Being discussed on Today FM now...

padi89

shampoosuicide wrote: »

no doubt the fascists are going to lock this thread, so i'll say this very quickly: if he gets out, i'll personally kill the ****er myself. slowly and painfully

You will of course, good man yourself, you do that ... :rolleyes:

Alessandra

Disgraceful and very disrespective to his victims.

He should never walk the streets again. He could easily live 40-50 years and be out in no time at this rate!

I hope that Manuelas family case against the state succeeds in showing the world how defunct our criminal justice system really is.

jmayo

As someone that often travelled by the areas that this piece of scum carried out his deeds it sickens me.
Many night I have walked by those pitches in Mervue.

Our sentencing system has to change and our prison system has to change to make sure people like this never are at large in society.

But this is not the first case where the authorities and our criminal/prison system have allowed sickos wander amongst us.

Remember how Castlerea day release physco Thomas Murray killed 81 year old retired teacher in Ballygar with lump hammer and then went back to prison that night.
http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2001/07/07/story7442.asp

Remember killing of German tourist Bettina Poeschel in Louth by convicted killer Michael Murphy.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0213/poeschelb.html
When will he be out again to try and get his hat trick.

These men do not deserve to ever see the light of day and all the horses*** about rehabiliation is just that.

Why is the system now so stacked in favour of the perps and so against the victims asnd indeed the general welbeing of the majority of law abiding decent people.
When will a politican actually stand up and be counted.
When will someone come out and say no more bail for anyone connected with violent crime, no more concurrent sentences.
No more bullsh** manslaughter convictions when it was murder pure and simple.

The more you look at this country the more you appreciate Padraig Nally's actions.

mikom

shampoosuicide wrote: »

no doubt the fascists are going to lock this thread, so i'll say this very quickly: if he gets out, i'll personally kill the ****er myself. slowly and painfully

Let me guess, you're the "No more tears" type of shampoo..... right.

jayoo

It will cost the state a lot to keep him locked up for life.It makes me sick to think that he had a lawyer who was tring his best to get him off or lessen the sentence. Imagine all the misery he has been responsible for throughout his life. He should be killed pain and simple

hoody

jayoo wrote: »

It will cost the state a lot to keep him locked up for life.It makes me sick to think that he had a lawyer who was tring his best to get him off or lessen the sentence. Imagine all the misery he has been responsible for throughout his life. He should be killed pain and simple

The lawyer/solicitor is obliged to represent the client, and to defend them to the best of their abilities. Also, it is not their position to determine guilt, no matter how obvious the facts of the crime. The client has a right to a fair trial - every client, every crime, every trial, and the solicitor would be denying that right by not defending their client. Not easy to stomach for such an horrific, awful crime as this but it's there to protect the innocent.

Personally speaking, I hope he never sees the light of day again and I hope he lives in an ever-worsening nightmare, second by slow second, for the rest of his life.

Tiger Nat

Hi
Regardless of whether it's rape or consentual, a teacher should have better moral fiber than to sleep around with his/her students. The teacher should be dismissed and not allowed to teach. There are too many problems that can be encountered, accusations of bias, "free" grades, etc. In the case of rape, the teacher should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. He/she is in a position of authority.
midwest prisons

run_Forrest_run

what's even more sickening is that our taxes will go to keeping this low-life in prison when nothing good will come out of keeping the sicko alive, a bullet in the head is all he's good for.

galwayrush

onemorechance wrote: »

What's wrong is that the sentence starts today and not at the end of his sentence for the murder of Maneula. Two unrelated crimes and he gets to serve sentences for both in paralell, that is completely wrong.

It's not just wrong, it's totally stupid.Insane, i could think of more colourful words to describe the idiot of a judge who decided the scumbag can serve all sentences as one. Bastard will be a free man while he is still young enough to be a serious threat again.:(

therewillbe

teresa2008 wrote: »

how long is a life sentence? the guy should be neutered

Thats to good for him.Execute this so called human.:mad:

So the fact he was given 3 life sentences at once means that since one is 18(ish) years, once he's finished that 18 years he's off scott-free?

What the f*ck went wrong?

asdasd

I went to that case that soundbyte mentioned:

At the extradition hearing at the Bridewell complex, the court ruled the fingerprints were not sufficient proof and granted bail to the two Englishmen pending production of further evidence.

Those fingerprints were based on evidence of a large amount of criminal activity, including sexual attacks. Once freed they raped and killed two women, the second girl was assaulted for 36 hours.

So do you think the no-extradition justices slept well at night?


Of course they did, the well paid shysters.

dec25532

Life sentences are concurrent not consecutive. This is on the basis that a life sentence is supposed to be for "life" when in fact this is far from the case. Trouble is that in 10 or 15 years time we will have forgotten about the severity of the crimes Barry committed, governments will have changed three times over and it is conceivable that this f**ker could walk in 20 years or so. Hopefully he won't walk for too long!

Madame Razz

I hope every day of his sentence is a living hell. I hope he is tortured within an inch of his life on a daily basis. And I hope he never walks the streets of Galway again. Sadly I think the former is more guaranteed than the latter :rolleyes:

VanhireBoys

He is just evil personified. He should have got a lethal injection or the chair in 1996 but the way things have gone he will be out free to rape and murder once again in 15 years.

The justice system in this country is a total disaster. Life does not mean life and it makes a total joke of his victims lives.

dartsfan

Personally, I think it would be impossible for any Justice minister to look at that file and set him free. Has there been anyone in the country released under similar circumstances does anyone know?

niceirishfella

Pure SCUM he is.
I hope he's sharing a cell with a large homo rapist and is tortured everyday going forwards.