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Who do you prefer: Week 6 - John Cena vs Triple H

  • 23-07-2009 4:48pm
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    Week One - Stone Cold (49) b Ric Flair (5)
    Week Two - The Rock (44) b Shawn Michaels (40)
    Week Three - The Undertaker (36) drew with Bret Hart (36)
    Week Four - Chris Jericho (58) b Rey Mysterio (7)
    Week Five - Hulk Hogan (37) drew with Chris Benoit (37)


    The two most controversial wrestlers in WWE today. Everyone knows them, everyone loves them or hates them, there's no inbetween really. Who floats your boat?

    I'm all for Cena. He ENTERTAINS me. That's why I love him. I feel something every time he is on screen. HHH, i'm not too fond of. But there's a HHH bashing thread for that, so lets not turn this one into another, eh?

    Cena or HHH? 25 votes

    Cena
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    HHH
    100% 25 votes


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 741 ✭✭✭pingu_girl


    Another tough one this week, if I was to pick my current favourite of the 2 it would be Cena but I'm going to go with the game he's one of the funniest heels in the history of wrestling but in saying that hes also the biggest disgraces when hes in the new DX hmmmmmmm........... maybe I shouldn't of picked Triple H

    Just for the record I dont love or hate Cena.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    yep another great choice in Cena vs HHH

    im going with HHH but honestly i dont know if hes better or I just have so many more and better prior memories of HHH than Cena so its kinda hard for me to go for JC. Im not a fan of the whole Dr of Thuganomics Chain gang leader thing either tho even if it did suit him and work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    oooh god MEGAcena vs SUPERhunter, another great choice! i think im going to give this one to HHH, i just think he is more of an all rounder than cena, he is one of the greatest heels and can pull of a hillarious promo, cena is great at what he does but i think it can be very one dimensional (i know it would be financial suicide to change that now)!

    While atm no one can draw like cena, i think HHH is a better all rounder!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    Wow that one is tough.

    I like Cena, I like HHH.

    I like Cena cos even though he has been boo'd so many times, he has gained my respect by how he has taken it in his stride.
    For example ONS 2006 was the turning point for me.

    Although i dont Love him. I do think he is the modern day Hogan, and for that reason i have to dislike him(you know, being a smark and all).


    HHH?
    Hmmm..
    The man is a great face, and i mean a funny face, he's entertaining but aggressive too.
    As a heel he is even better (IMO).
    I like it better when he is doing his whole "I will beat you and destroy you because i can!"
    Not when he has a purpose, i find him boring.

    Take his ongoing saga with Randy Orton.
    Its become about the Belt and retribution.

    And i would just rather it if he said "Screw you randy, they are going to have to pull me off you at the end of this one and getting the belt will only be a bonus."

    Instead of "youve got my title.... And i want it...."

    Me: "YAWNNNN....."


    So im going to wait a few days and see what other peoples thoughts are, cos for me it comes down to the backstage politics.

    And i really dont want to vote on a reason that doesnt entertain me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,006 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Preview, Show 1, Show 2, Show 3, Show 4

    Event: Wrestlepalooza V
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    Venue: Tokyo Dome
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    Opening Match
    Dan Severn vs Seiji Sakaguchi
    This match will set the tone for tonights PPV. It's USA vs Japan, UFC vs Pro Wrestling, Punks Buddy vs Nakamura's follower and thats before we talk about the men themselves that will kick off this PPV. Severn a 2 time NWA world champion and former UFC superfight champion wants to prove himself to everyone in Pro Wrestling whom he believes don't hold him in as high a regard as he deserves. Sakaguchi similarly is enraged that American audiences don't recognise his greatness and believes that beating the man from the UFC is a perfect way start proving to them that he is second only to Nakamura in terms of greatness.
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    Despite Sakaguchi recent actions the crowd are actually very split in the Tokyo Dome and Dan Severn's decision to wear star spangled shorts tonight as he faces his Japanese opponent hasn't helped him with the fans. Interestingly this match does not start out as a typical wrestling match though as these two 5th degree black belts in judo revert back to whats natural against such a similar opponent. The hip throws and wrap arounds stop though after a thunderous Sakaguchi chop stops Severn dead in his tracks, it's followed by another and another as The Beast is rocked. After one final chop he actually stumbles and falls back through the ropes and to the outside much to the crowds amusement.

    The UFC man uses this time to refocus himself while in ring Sakaguchi enjoys as a "Sak-a-Guchi" chant breaks out from the usually quiet (atleast in comparison to the US cities the BWA had been in recently) Japanese crowd. Surprisingly the crowd still cheer him even as he heelishly catches Severn with a lariat the moment he re-enters the ring and then locks in his Cobra twist abdominal stretch. The affect it is having is clear to be seen on his opponents face but he is still too close to the ropes and after a little struggle he is able to get his body onto the ropes and force the break. Seconds later though he delivers another series of chops and Severn again goes to the outside. This time though it is his own decision as he does whatever he can to get out of the corner he's been forced into and out of the way of more chops.

    As he rethinks his strategy on the outside how red and "near bloody" as the commentators put it his chest has become is clearly noticable. Sakaguchi though seems to be geting carried away with the Sak-a-guchi chants which he has actually encouraged by continuing to mimic big chops. Severn psyches himself up and climbes back into the ring. Almost immediately buoyed on by the crowd Sakaguchi goes again for a big chop but Severn is able to duck it and then as he rises catches his opponent with an incredible belly to belly suplex sending him crashing into the corner turnbuckle. Sakaguchi was hit hard by that move and before he gets back to his feet with his back to Severn he is caught by The Beast's Dragon sleeper which he then adds a body scissors to... a few seconds later and Sakaguchi taps!
    Winner:
    Dan "The Beast" Severn
    Explanation: Seiji Sakaguchi is currently being portrayed as Nakamuras lacky while Severn, the man who held the NWA world title for over 4 years, is part of the big UFC angle and as a result there is far more upside to pushing him strong. That said Sakaguchi does not look too weak here but the match is used to establish how the UFC contingent are skilled in submission finishes and can end a match in an instant. The match will also highlight how the majority of the crowd will be very pro the Japanese wrestlers in attendance.

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    JD: Wow I didn't see that result coming! Sakaguchi had been completely on top
    BH: Just shows how quickly these UFC fighters can hit their mark and whos to say we won't see CM Punk or Ronda Rousey put their opponents away in a similar fashion a little later
    JD: If we get more matches like that one i'll be happy anyway, did you hear those chops?!


    Mask vs Mask match
    Mil Mascaras vs Tiger Mask
    Satoru Sayama, the original Tiger Mask, has described Máscaras' impact on Japanese professional wrestling by saying "If it weren't for Mil Máscaras, there would be no Jushin Liger, no Último Dragón or the Great Sasuke today,".He like many in this industry around the world looked up to Mil Mascaras and rightly so, considering him a living legend and yet ever since he debuted in the BWA things just haven't gone Mascaras's way. He lost match after match which was near unheard of for a man of his stature. Now these matches were not against chumps, they were against world champions like Hiroshi Tanahashi and Jack Brisco but that didn't make it get to him any less. He vowed to change his luck, to prove his doubters wrong and to do it on the grandest stage of them all, Wrestlepalooza.

    and who will he face? well none other than Tiger Mask himself who was brought in by close friend and the man who himself once donned the Tiger Mask Mitsuharu Misawa. Despite all the respect he has for Mascaras perhaps he believes the Mexican's day has come and passed because it is he who specifically challenged Mascaras to a match he has never lost before and a match where he will have to put everything on the line... a Mask vs Mask match! Will we see Mascaras prove he's still got it or has the young Tiger decided it is his time to lead the charge
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    Once again the crowd are firmly behind the Japanese wrestler in this bout but they do not get on Mascaras's back, seemingly they like Tiger mask have a lot of time and respect for the Mexican superstar, a fact highlighted when the two competitors shake hands pre-match resulting in a big cheer. The pace of this match is one noticeable difference from the opener with both men going full tilt wether its delivering perfect dropkicks to each other and unlike in the first match when one man looks to take stock on the outside, this time Tiger Mask, his opponent doesent give him the chance with an incredible Plancha suicida taking the action to the outside. He takes just as much out of himself though and it's actually the Japanese wrestler who is first to his feet and as a result when Mil rises he is dealt a series of Kicks including a spinning heel kick and finishing with a big roundhouse kick which makes the bigger of the two men stumble around looking dizzy as he is tossed back into the ring.

    In ring Tiger Mask hits a snap DDT and climbs to the top turnbuckle and goes for a big Moonsault but Mascaras gets his knees up. Tiger Mask writhes around in pain after this and when he does get to his feet he is grasping his own stomach which is obviously paining him and which is immediately targeted by Mascaras. The big Mexican locks in a bearhug on his smaller masked opponent and the announcers really play up the pain he looks to be in and the chance that he may tap out just like we saw in out first match. In fact it looks like there wont be a tap at all and that perhaps he has simply passed out from the pain as Mascaras drops his limp body on the mat. Mascaras comes over and gives him a poke to see if he is out... no response, so he turns and calls over the ref but as he does so Tiger mask from behind grabs the unsuspecting Mascaras in a roll up pin and the ref counts 1, 2, 2and a half...kickout!
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    Mascaras looks p!ssed off and as the two get back up they start exchanging shots, Tiger Mask big chops but Mascaras closed fist punches. As a result Mascaras quickly gets on top and when there is an opening grabs his adversary and hits a vertical suplex before going to the corner and starting to climb to the top turnbuckle no doubt looking for his patented diving crossbody. Once again though Tiger Mask is back competitive quicker than expected and he rushes up to the top turnbuckle himself before Mascaras can adjust himself to jump and hits the Luchadore with a huge Belly to belly suplex off the top rope which Mascaras definitely takes the worst of. Tiger Mask can smell blood here and climbs to the top rope one last time signalling that the end is near as he performs a diving headbutt but at the last second Mascaras moves out of the way!

    Again Tiger mask looks like he may be out cold but this time Mascaras is not taking any chances and it is his turn to head up top and it's lucky he does so as it is mere moments later that his opponent very impressively is able to once again albeit more groggily rise to his feet. As he does though Mascaras pounces and succesfully connects with a diving crossbody followed by a pin resulting in the 3 count!
    Winner:
    Mil Mascaras
    Explanation
    I believe it will be easier for Tiger Mask to survive without the mask especially with the moment that follows (look below) and how his real name is already pretty established in wrestling. Mascaras has never lost a mask match and that gimmick will be a handy one for him to keep plus after his run of bad form (where he only really lost to people in the WHC picture) this match could give him the momentum to say that he's back and better than ever. That is all without saying that Mascaras would be clearly the bigger of the two masked men and more likely to head towards the heavyweight title picture after a win and a good run following it while a loss and especially done in such a gutsy manner against a bigger opponent wouldnt hurt Tiger Mask as much who could prehaps moved towards the IC title picture or team with Misawa as Tigers unmasked or something similar.


    Just as they did at the start of the match the two wrestlers shake hands again as the action culminates here. A great show of respect. Then somewhat reluctantly Tiger Mask removes his mask and Satoru Sayama face is revealed to the Tokyo crowd. He looks a little distraught but moments later Mascaras lifts his hand as if he had won the bout and the crowd start to chant his real name in a very touching moment.
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    BH: What a match and what a moment between those two men and the BWA universe here in Tokyo tonight
    JD: An instant classic it really was and another Wrestlepalooza moment
    BH: Yep it will take something special to top that but can you believe it we are only two matches into a 9 match card here tonight!
    JD: Damn this is one hell of a show BH!

    Intercontinental title match
    Pat Patterson vs Gorgeous George
    The 1st ever Intercontinental champion Pat Patterson recently came out and coming out as a gay man in the professional wrestling industry is not the easiest thing to do but it sure was a huge weight off his shoulders. Combined with the fact that he recently signed a BWA contract Pat has spoken about how this is the happiest he has ever been. He thought nothing could improve things but then when Jerry Lawler told him he would get a chance at Wrestlepalooza V to once again hold the IC title there was only one thing he thought could make it better and that was if his opponent was the man he idolized... Gorgeous George (Wagner).

    The old saying rings true with this one though you really should never meet your heroes because as Patterson would tell you, you'll only be disappointing. Since his arrival in the BWA George Wagner aka Gorgeous George has arrogantly run down Patterson and doesn't care what kind of heat his homophobic slurs cause. He seems sure the IC title is coming his way and that is all that matters to him be it by hook or by crook as he is of course notorious for doing whatever it takes even if it's not within the rules. Having now seen the real Gorgeous George, Patterson has vowed that he will do what needs doing to stop the fiend from holding and in doing so tarnishing the title he holds so dear
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    The pomp and bravado of Gorgeous George's entrance has been toned down tenfold and he comes out wearing very plain black trunks for tonight's bout. As he does the announcers talk about how they spoke to him earlier and he said that his elaborate entrances will return but not while he is wrestling someone who would get a giddy little thrill from seeing it. Patterson doesn't mess about with his entrance either though and charges straight down to the ring to confront his opponent and hits him with vicious rights and lefts much to the crowds approval. Eventually the ref forces him to stop informing him that he has to officially start the match, Patterson respects the official and momentarily stops but George doesn't reciprocate and as the ref turns to signal for the timekeeper to ring the bell he misses George giving Pat a swift kick to the balls! Patterson is hunched over as the ref turns back and his opponent goes for an inside cradle and a quick win. Patterson kicks out after 2 but he is already on the back foot as the match gets going and Wagner does not let up.

    Another thing he doesn't let up with is the underhanded tactics as just moments later he is warned for pulling a chunk of Patterson's hair right out of his scalp. He really seems to have gotten inside Pat's head as Patterson seems to barely be able to string two moves together before leaving himself open for another sly attack be it a rake to the eyes or a hidden chokehold. Finally the ref steps in an admonishes George allowing Patterson to focus himself but just as he does and seems to start wrestling smart and connecting with a string of moves from an atomic drop to a diving knee drop allowing him to get on top Wagner clearly mouths something which enrages his french Canadian opponent who sees red and charges at him but is easily dodged and so instead goes head first directly into the corner turnbuckle. Patterson now stunned is then hip tossed straight into the referee who is knocked to the outside, Gorgeous George feigns concern for the official but it only lasts a few seconds before he decides to use the situation to his advantage by locking in a step over toe hold on Patterson and refusing to release it.

    Patterson gets to the ropes but there is no official there to break the hold and as a result he is left writhing in pain for a few minutes until the referee finally does return to the ring and call for the hold to be released. Patterson can barely put any weight on his foot now but somehow perhaps buoyed by the crowd cheering him on drags himself up and soldiers on and actually is able to gain the upper hand when he dodges a closed fist attack and gets around behind George where he can lock in a sleeper hold. His opponent looks like he is starting to fade but then stomps on Pat's already injured foot before a quick jab to Patterson's throat which once again receives a warning from the ref but no more and with Patterson injured and now struggling to breath George takes advantage and again locks in his step over toe hold.

    Patterson is nowhere near the ropes and his foot is already injured so despite his best efforts he eventually has to tap
    Winner:
    Gorgeous George
    Explanation
    The feud is only in it's infancy, Gorgeous George has only been around 2 weeks and although he has already established himself as one hell of a heel, it is perhaps a little early for the big face victory against the heel. Therefore instead we have him using every heel tactic going to get the win and make him an even more hated figure so as to build to an even bigger payoff with Patterson finally going over and winning the IC title somewhere further down the line.
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    BH: Gawd Damn, I can't believe he got away with that.
    JD: Poor Patterson looks terribly distraught
    BH: Well I am sure he will get another chance, Georgous George didn't exactly win that match cleanly, he used every underhanded trick he could
    JD: I hope your right BH but he still won and is the new Intercontinental champion
    BH: Ugh don't remind me... wait whats that (checking his headset)... Now we will hear from a proper champion as we go backstage to where Sean Mooney is with BWA World Heavyweight Champion Hiroshi Tanahashi

    Mooney: Last week on Raw you had some very poignant words about your former friend and opponent tonight Shinsuke Nakamura who some said then went too fair as he targeted your and CM Punk's wives. How do you feel about what happened and do you have any message for Nakamura or CM Punk before your main event bout tonight?
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    Tanahashi: Nakamura wanted to make this personal for both myself and for CM Punk. He wanted to get in our heads and cloud our judgement with anger so we make a mistake... and he has succeeded! You lay your hand on the woman I love and damn right I am going to be angry, I am not just going to get angry though... I am going to get even with Nakamura tonight. I am going to beat some sense into that boy tonight.

    Mooney: Are you not concerned that perhaps your focus is too much on Nakamura though, there are three men in this fight remember.

    Tanahashi: I assure you Sean I am not forgetting about UFC's own Phil "CM Punk" Brooks afterall I told the man himself how much I respect his in ring ability last week. However we all know what CM Punk is like outside of the ring and wether it is ROH, WWE, WECWF or MNG we know what he does to wrestling promotions... he walks out on them! You see, as much as I am fighting for myself and my own personal reasons tonight I am also fighting for this company tonight. A company I love dearly and whose reputation I am willing to put my body on the line to protect. I am not about to let Nakamura become the champion and destroy the image of the BWA to the world with his antics nor am I going to let Punk take our belt and swan off to the UFC. This belt is staying right where it belongs... around my waist.

    BWA Tag Team Titles No DQ Tag Match
    The Brisco Brothers vs Abdullah the Butcher & The Sheik
    A strong theme running throughout the BWA in recent times has been how the faces in the company would always try to do the honorable thing. Be it World Heavyweight champion Hiroshi Tanahashi, Antonio Inoki or Ronda Rousey the fan favorites in this federation really tend to be proper good guys but none of them face the challenge the tag champions Jack & Gerry Brisco face as the step into their opponents world in order to compete at Wrestlepalooza. Because when The Brisco Brothers defend those tag belts they will be doing so against two men for whom rule breaking is in their blood and in an environment where their are no rules. Will the champs really be able to survive when they face up to the challenge of a no DQ match against people famous for stabbing and setting their opponents on fire every chance they get? let's find out
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    The Original Sheik & Abdullah the Butcher are in the building and although they get some minor boos from the crowd there are actually sections chanting for them. It would seem Abbie in particular has built up quite a fan base over here in Japan from his previous time here, a fanbase who unlike The Butchers opponents tonight are used to Death matches and the like and a fanbase who cheer loudly as these two start pulling every demented toy you could imagine out of the bags they carry to the ring and out from under the ring before we start of here. Chairs, tables, thumbtacks, 2x4s, beer bottles, a whole drawer of cutlery and much much more. The announcers question if the Brisco brothers are ready for what awaits them as they charge down to ringside carrying with them their own bag of tricks as battle commences with all four combatants going at it. It is no more than seconds though before that question is answered with Jack Brisco repeatidly smashing Abdullah's head into the announcers table and then pulling out one of their monitors and cracking it over his noggin. He then turns to see his brother who is exchanging punches with the Shiek grabs a chair, lifts it up and brings it crashing down on his opponent.

    Jack then throws Sheiky into the ring and gets in himself before calling for his brother Gerald to do something not quite audible. It turns out that it is to pull over not one but two of the the tables their opponents had gotten out and set them up one on top of the other just outside the ring. Meanwhile back in the ring Jack Brisco has, after a few more chair shots to subdue him, dragged the sheik into position for a Superplex except he is looking to Superplex him to the outside where the table awaits. He actually gets him up into the air with he crowd already gasping in astonishment before he is stopped by Abdullah who has jumped up onto the apron and struck him several times in the back. Gerry starts pulling on The Butchers leg trying to get him off the apron and away from his brother when suddenly Abdullah turns sharply and jabs his fork into Briscos shoulder!

    Gerry is rolling around in extreme pain as a 2 on 1 develops on Jack Brisco in the ring. Jack takes quite a beating and as a result leaves himself somewhat open for The Sheik who smashes a beer bottle over his head before shouting at Abdullah and throwing him something. What he threw him was a lighter and a spray which he immediately sprays onto the tables before lighting them on fire before OMG Sheiky lifts the incapacitated Brisco up and Gorilla Press powerslams him out of the ring and through the tables. "Holy Sh!t, Holy Sh!t" chant the BWA fans as the dasterdly duo laugh maniacally in the ring. The older Brisco brother is out of this match and surely the tag titles will soon be out of the Briscos grasp too.

    To say that upon viewing this Gerry Brisco looked enraged would be quite and understatement and he rose to his feet and charged at Abdullah on the outside who although warned about Briscos impeding arrival by the Sheik couldn't move fast enough and was drilled head first into the ring post on the outside. He then in a fit of pure rage pulled the fork out of his shoulder and then with blood squirting everywhere drives it again and again into the Butchers side, at which point he grabbed the cable from the monitor his brother had earlier used and wrapped it around Abbies head and started to choke him out. At this point The Sheik attempts to come to his partners aid but as he tries to exit the ring through the ropes WHACK! the monitor is tossed right at him and strikes him on the back of his neck. Moments later and a deranged looking Gerald Brisco is now in the ring himself and in his hand he has the bag that he had carried down to ringside when this battle began. It contained a number of items he tosses to the outside while looking for what he wants but he eventually finds them... 2 pairs of brass knuckles which he places on each hand. Then making two fists he starts beating the holy hell out of The Sheik before eventually knocking him out with a big haymaker right. 1...2...3!
    Winner:
    The Brisco Brothers
    Explanation
    The Brisco brothers only recently won the tag titles and in the BWA we don't pass around titles like hot potatoes. Them winning in a no DQ environment against a team like The Sheik & Abdullah would also be a hugely impressive moment which would help get them over big time with the BWA universe and it would also be a big win for a pair of faces which would be needed after Gorgeous George in the last match and perhaps some of the later matches. This match gives some variety to the card too.
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    BH: Oh my gawd I have never seen such a destructive encounter and Gerry Brisco! Jesus was that really him? he was like a man possesed!
    JD: Yeah the usually mild mannered younger brother just snapped, who knew he had that in him.
    BH: Even though it's PPV and you knew what to expect from a no DQ match with The Sheik and The Butcher I really feel I gotta apologize, you don't normally see such brutality in a BWA arena.
    JD: I just thank god nobody was too seriously hurt though cos look Jack Brisco is back to his feet and celebrating with his brother which in itself is a bit of a miracle and although im sure his Jaw will hurt in the morning it looks like The Sheik is able to walk out of the arena (with Abdullah's assistance) too.


    While BWA officials clean up the ringside arena we cut away to a replay of the UFC news conference from earlier today where it was announced that the UFC/BWA interpromotional deal would last for 12 months (until next years draft) including several PPV spectaculars such as Wrestlepalooza. There is also a raher timely "Don't try this at home" message.
    GMship on the line
    Jerry "The King" Lawler vs Mitsuharu Misawa
    When Jerry "The King" Lawler left Monday Night Grappling and joined the BWA taking up the position of Raw general manager he did so on a trial basis in the lead up to Wrestlepalooza V. It must be said he put together an amazing PPV but the methods he used so as to do so were to say the least questionable, in particular in relation to "The Aces of the Universe" . Lawler feared the newest member of the group Antoni Inoki was lookng to invest in the BWA and would remove him from power so brought in his old MNG cohort Big Van Vader to deal with him. He stacked the odds against BWA champion Hiroshi Tanahashi and he screwed then BWA tag champions Kenta Kobashi & Mitsuharu Misawa out of their championships.

    The thing is Lawler wasn't wrong, Inoki was looking to invest and did intend to replace him as GM, and the man he planned to replace him with was none other than Mitsuharu Misawa. Misawa who not only held the positions of founder, chairman and president in different Japanese promotions but is also a former eight time World Champion. In the BWA we settle such disputes in the ring however so the board of directors decreed that at Wrestlepalooza Lawler & Misawa would go one on one with the Gmship of BWA raw on the line
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    After both competitors come out but before the match starts Lawler with a Microphone in his hand addresses Miswawa he talks about how they just witnessed a no DQ match whrere a lot of deplorable actions took place and says he wants Misawa's word he won't try anything like that in their match where it would be considered cheating. He goes to hand the Mic to a bemused looking Misawa but as he reaches out to take it Lawler gives him a swift kick to the groin causing him to drop to his knees where Jerry cracks the Mic off his skull 3 times before tossing it outside the ring and ordering for the bell to be rung to start the match. He is still in-interim GM so the arena staff follow his orders and Lawler starts with a huge advantage and one he plans to capitalize on immediately as whips Misawa into the corner and then delivers a big vertical suplex after which he goes for a pin...1...2...kickout!

    Lawler throws everything he can at him culminating in his classic diving fist drop from the top rope but again it only gets a long 2 count from the referee. After this Jerry starts berating the ref saying he is counting too slow and in doing so doesen't realize that Misawa is back to his feet and when Lawler turns around he turns straight into a kick to the gut and a Tiger Driver! Misawa pins Lawler and this time the count is anything but slow but Jerry is able to kick out just before the 3 count
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    The momentum has shifted and Misawa is on top delivering a number of quality suplexes to Lawler softening him up before he hits his Emerald Flowsion and goes for another pinfall but alas this time Jerry is too close to the side of the ring and is able to break the count by reaching out and grabbing the bottom rope. Lawler rolls to the outside to give himself a moment to as the commentators say try and formulate a plan to get back into this one but he is given no time as much to everyones shock Misawa rolls back the years performing a Corkscrew Plancha to the outside. It is a success in as far as he lands dead on Lawler but he also clearly hurts himself in doing so coming down hard on his neck.

    After only a few seconds the referee throws up an X gesture with his hands to symbolize that medical assistance is needed. Despite this when Lawler gets back to his feet he drags Misawa to his and rams him head first into the corner post. The announcers wonder if he might be concussed too as he looks like he doesent know where he is as Lawler throws him into the ring but they are sure that his neck is what the doctors have been called for as they have shown a replay of him coming crashing down on it several times. The ref and The doctors who have now arrived on the scene plead with Jerry to stop the assault but instead Lawler performs his patented Piledriver much to everyones dismay. After which he orders the ref to make the count which he does 1...2...3!
    Winner:
    Jerry Lawler
    As much as people bemoan the need for a heel authorithy figure there are more storyline options with Lawler in charge in my opinion especially with his feud set to continue against the face "Aces of The Universe" group, which it no doubt would after the finish to this match. More could be said on the topic of Lawler, his association with Vader and the before mentioned feud but lets wait till Vader's match for that one.
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    JD: Well it looks like "The King" is now our permanent General Manager
    BH: Can't say I am a fan of that, especially not after Jerry tried to severely injure another BWA wrestler to get the job
    JD: he's okay look Kobashi is helping him to the back... he's fine
    BH: I see it hasn't taken you long to start kissing the new bosses as$
    JD: oh give over Bounty Hunter and just enjoy this fine PPV Lawler has put on for us tonight.


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    Grudge Match
    Big Van Vader vs Antonio Inoki
    A few years ago after a match where Riki Chōshū had challenged Antonio Inoki in a losing effort, Vader had appeared and demanded a match with the already worn down Inoki, and was victorious. This led the pro-Inoki audience to riot, resulting in NJPW being banned from the Sumo Hall, which was its home arena. Fast forward a few years and Antonio Inoki is looking to invest in the BWA having cashed out his NJPW shares after two of tonights main eventers Hiroshi Tanahashi & Shinsuke Nakamura jumped ship to the BWA. Current man in charge of booking the show in the BWA Jerry Lawler feared the effect his arrival would have on his position with the company so who did he call? none other than the man he fought alongside in MNG productions last year Big Van Vader. Vader didn't disappoint his new boss and since his arrival in the BWA he has terrorized the former IWGP and WWF world champion. Lawler has been so impressed that he promised to start booking Vader in the main event picture if he destroys Inoki at Wrestlepalooza. I wouldn't bet against the mastadon considering how impressive he has been since his BWA debut but remember the last time these two faced off Inoki had already been through a gruelling battle, while this time he will be fresh as well as being on home soil in Tokyo. Can Inoki overcome his greatest adversary or will Vader cause another riot in Japan?!
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    After both men make their way out Antoni Inoki makes what the announcers highlight as being a massive gesture and offers to shake Vaders hand as we begin but the big man just swats it away laughing before dropping his opponent to the mat with a huge lariat. He gets back up quick only to be knocked straight back on his ass courtesy of another lariat. It's a worrying start for Inoki as Vader lifts him up and starts squeezing the life out of him with a bearhug only releasing it so he can connect with a third big lariat.

    Inoki gets back up just as Vader goes for a fourth lariat but that is simply going too far and Inoki sees it coming and is able to avoid it getting around behind his attacker where he locks in his Cobra Twist Abdominal stretch but after a few seconds Vader looking every inch a monster powers out of it. Inoki tries his best to subdue the beast by connecting perfectly with several bare knuckle punches but Vader just keeps coming and a chokeslam later and Inoki is once more lying flat on his back. He is clearly struggling and crawls over to the corner propping himself up on the first turnbuckle after failing to get to his feet initially. He has taken a lot of abuse from Vader in the weeks building to this match but the Mastadon is not the person you want to go up against at anything but 100% percent a fact he shows as he immediately charges the corner and without leaving his feet crushes him into the turnbuckle. The big man then climbs to the top rope and goes for his Vadersault (Moonsault) but at the last second Inoki rolls out of the way.

    It seems the man who once faced Muhammad Ali still has something left in the tank and after Vaders big flop it's Inoki who gets to his feet first and then when his opponent finally does rise the asian wrestler impresses all by lifting the big man up for a fallaway slam. Again Vader does not stay down for long but once more when he gets up Inoki is waiting and locks in his Manji-Gatame octopus hold. The crowd are begging for a Vader tap out and cheering Inoki on but those cheers turn to boos as Jerry Lawler comes out to ringside. His meer presence and the boos that accompany it are enough to distract Inoki so much that he slightly loosens his hold and Vader is able to power out of it. Vader is still a little worse for wear though and Inoki tries to keep on him slingshoting himself off the ropes to go for an Inoki special Enzuigiri (he signalled this before hand) but as he comes off the ropes Lawler grabs his trailing let and he strumbles straight into a spinning backfist instead. That single moment is enough to swing the momentum of the whole match as Vader then lifts him up and delivers not one but 2 powerbombs, finally releasing upon the second. He then drags Inoki to the corner where he hits his Vader Bomb (Corner slingshot splash) before going for a pin. 1...2...3
    Winner:
    Vader

    Lawler joins Vader in the ring and lifts his hand in celebration before continuing to beat down on Inoki amidst a torrent of boos. That is until his opponent from earlier tonight Mitsuharu Misawa comes charging down to the ring to stop him. Unfortunately he is in no condition to take on Lawler let alone Lawler and Vader and after he recieves a Vader powerbomb for his troubles the boos return. BWA security now sperate Vader/Lawler from Misawa/Inoki as medical staff enter the ring to attend to those two
    Explanation
    Build towards a Jerry Lawler vs Antoni Inoki feud & PPV bout, Vader can move into the main event picture with the help of Lawler and him being booked like a beast is both right for him and any potential main event feud he could have, all of which would be fresh and argueably dream matches (vs Punk, Tanahashi etc)
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    JD:My Gawd what a destructive force Big Van Vader truely is
    BH: He will make a fine addition to the main event scene here in the BWA but I really just hope Inoki and Misawa are okay, those men are legends in the sport and I want to see them able to compete again.
    JD: Knowing them I am sure they will, and I can assure everyone at home they will get all the support they need from the BWA staff as well as the Aces of The Universe
    BH: Speaking of whom thats 2 loses in a row for the Aces, not a good sign for Kobashi & Tanahashi later tonight!


    Cross Promotional inter-gender Bout
    Jesse "The Body" Ventura vs "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey
    Jesse Ventura had been quite the crowd favorite here in the BWA. His flamboyant and charismatic persona had made him quite popular and the ladies loved the man with the moniker "The Body" for obvious reasons and boy did he love them too. He would often select a beauty from the audience to help him celebrate backstage after his matches and he had no shortage of willing ladies, in fact the number of ladies attending BWA shows had never been so high. All that changed though after an incident involving Ventura outside of the squared circle impacted upon the public perception of him. An Altercation with "The American sniper" Chris Kyle lead to a law suit against his estate and in America sueing the widow of a man considered an American hero doesn't exactly go down too well. Ventura started to get booed at arenas when wrestling and slowly he began to change. In ring he took his anger out on his opponents while outside it his frustrations continued to grow as did his womanizing except now the ladies were not as forthcoming and how Venutura acted and spoke to them worsened. The main stream media were picking up on it more and more especially as the UFC deal was gaining the BWA more attention and his misogyny was reaching a tipping point where the fans would simply not accept it anymore.

    This fact became crystallized when one of the BWA's biggest fans, UFC's Ronda Rousey said no more and confronted Ventura live on BWA Raw over his antics. Since then the world has been a buzz about Rousey vs Ventura a match that was shockingly made official just as the BWAs deal with the mixed martial arts company was. The two have appeared on all the talk shows, in all the newspapers and magazines with the obvious hot topic being a woman facing a man in combat sport. But this is not just any woman, this is Ronda Rousey (Wrestling Observers Best Box Office Draw, Most Outstanding Fighter and MMA Most Valuable Fighter 2014) and Ventura has agreed to face her in an MMA style match. All the talk, all the hype is over now though and as the world looks on what will happen here live in Tokyo
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    Ventura is out first and just in case this feud was too American for the local crowd he cuts a promo about how the Japanese should be on his side and that they know how to treat their woman here in which he calls them a "bunch of sick perverts" and references how he is going to get himself not one but several "Yellow Cabs" to take him home tonight so he can celebrate!

    he then enters the Octagon style cage structure that the company just placed around the ring for this match as both he and the camera admire the structure for several seconds before Ronda Rousey makes her way out to an amazing reaction. The ref explains the standard rules and then we are off!

    Ventura starts mimicking a boxers actions and keeping Rousey at arms reach chuckling as he does and not quite taking her seriously. That is until Rousey using several jabs works her way inside and then catches Ventura with some strong knee shots sending him stumbling back. He looks shocked at how easily she did this as she stares right at him and raises her arm saluting the crowd who cheer loudly.

    He grits his teeth and charges her looking for a big clothesline but she is able to easily avoid it and again she hits a quick flurry of jabs. Then much to his amazement the man who famously quipped "I ain't got time to bleed" finds a trickle of blood escaping from his nose!

    now clearly no longer joking around Ventura takes another big swing at his female apponent but once more her speed is too much for him and she evades it before this time going for a takedown on him. She struggles to get him off his feet though and instead just drives him into the steel surrounding the ring with a sort of rugby tackle. It clearly did hurt him but he uses his superior power to his advantage now as he is able to reach out and rap his arms around rousey's slender figure lifting her up and slamming her against the steel mesh. "ooohhh" go the crowd as worry seems to go around the ring, has the great Ronda Rousey bitten off more than she can chew. She quickly rolls way from ventura and gets back to her feet but much like when she saluted the crowd earlier it's now his turn as he flexes his muscles to loud boos which if anything makes him smile even more.
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    This time it is she who charges him but once again it is the attacker who ends up regretting moving first as she was clearly still feeling the effects of their last interchange and unlike her usual self is sloppy and leaves herself open to get turned around at which point Venture lifts her up into his Inverted Bearhug. There is legitimate fear that she may for the first time ever tap out but it seems Jesse isn't used to such a petit opponent and she is able to wriggle out of the hold. Then just as it is looking like she is starting to struggle and the crowd is starting to quieten down Ventura moves in for the kill and grabs her again but this time almost out of nowhere she grounds Ventura with a hip toss then locks in her Armbar. Ventura does everything he can to get out of it but to no avail and... he taps!
    Winner:
    Ronda Rousey
    Explanation
    The homophobe Gorgeous George avoided getting his comeuppance at the big PPV being new to the roster but the chauvinistic misogynist Ventura has been ripping on woman long enough that Rousey winning here would be a great pay off and brilliant moment for all the BWA fans who would revel in Jesse's embarrassment. Rousey is a huge box office draw and it wouldn't be smart to have here lose off the bat here especially in an MMA style match. After this she could be used to help jump-start a Divas division in the BWA or even a cross promotion with the all female FPW so as to allow woman like Awesome Kong come to the BWA to challenge her.
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    BH: Yes!, Yes! Ronda did it!
    JD: Yep she truely put Ventura in his place and shut that big mouth of his
    BH: No doubt we will be hearing form him again but right now it's Ronda's time and well deserved too

    No.1 Contender Match
    Samoa Joe vs Kenta Kobashi Ⅱ
    Ever since Samoa Joe faced Kenta Kobashi in the ROH instant classic something changed inside Joe. No matter where he went or what he did he just couldn't erase the memory of that loss. He left ROH and joined TNA where he went unbeaten for 18mths straight before he again moved on so as to seek a real challenge and last year he joined RCW as an early round draft pick. In that promotion nobody had an answer for the destructive force known as Samoa Joe either and he went on to become their champion. It had been years since he had tasted defeat but he still wasn't satisfied, ROH, TNA, hell even RCW were the Minor league in Joe's mind. He wanted to be main eventing in the biggest promotion in the world but even more than that he wanted to erase the memory of his loss to Kenta Kobashi. So when Jerry Lawler offered him the chance for just that he didn't hesitate as nothing WECWF, MNG or any other promotion could offer could even nearly match that for Joe.

    Meanwhile Kobashi himself had also gone unbeaten over the past few years in the BWA including a run as the intercontinental champion (a belt he only lost when he was drafted elsewhere) and as one half of the tag team champions. His run as a tag champ ended as did his unbeaten streak when Samoa Joe arrived in the BWA and had an instant impact attacking Kobashi as he and Misawa faced off against the Brisco brothers. As mentioned this was a changed Joe, Kobashi claimed he had lost the honor he had once fought with. Joe believes that he no longer needs honor and respect, he just needs to win and to do so he will go to any length. Will The Samoan submission machine get that win against the one man who has defeated him in recent years or will the BWAs most drafted superstar get the victory and become the no.1 contender for a belt he shockingly has never competed for?
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    Just like in the previous match involving an Ace of the Universe Kobashi extends his hand to Joe as this one begins but Joe ignores it refusing to shake and instead catches him before he is ready with a kick to the gut which he immediately follows up with a snap suplex. The announcers immediately reference that as an example of perhaps what Joe meant when he said he does not need to show respect he just needs to win.

    This match isn't exactly what one would call a pretty match but that's not what people were expecting, this here is a fight!

    That's not to say they don't do some damn impressive moves, there is a reason Joe is called the "The Samoan Suplex Machine" among other monikers after all and that is made very evident in this bout with him performing German, half nelson and Dragon suplexes among others on his opponent. Kobashi is no slouch in this department also and for a while they even appear to be trying to out suplex each other with the Japanese superstar employing Belly to Belly, Tiger and Vertical suplexes to name just a few. It isn't until around the 30 minute mark though when both men begin to slow down that the end is in sight. It is also only at this point that either man even tries to go for a pin fall.

    This is when Kobashi looks to be again going for a vertical suplex but instead hits his Orange Crush (Vertical suplex powerbomb) and then goes for a pin but much to his shock he doesn't even get a 2 count! as Samoa Joe kicks out and gets straight back to his feet. He may look a little dazed but by the time his opponents astonishment has worn off so has that and when Kobashi tries to hit him with a big roundhouse kick Joe avoids it and instead catches him with his Chimera-Plex (German suplex followed by a dragon suplex followed by an X-Plex) but this time it's Kobashi's turn to kick out surprisingly quickly and get back to his feet. The two men stare a hole in each other as the commentators say that no matter what Joe says there has to be some mutual respect there. That quickly passes though as they both start chopping the sh!t out of each other.
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    Eventually the exchange of chops stops when Kobashi catches Joe with a particularily strong discuss chop which gives him enough time to follow it up with his Burning Lariat finisher which this time he does get a 2 count out of but no more. Unlike last time Joe couldn't rise straight to his feet and Joe rolls out of the ring to catch his breath instead however. When he gets back in Kobashi comes straight at him but misses with another attempted discuss chop and allows Joe hit a big exploder (T-Bone) suplex on him. then as Kobashi gets to his feet Joe shoulder charges him straight into the corner drilling his spine into the turnbuckle. He then lifts him up onto the turnbuckle making it easier for to deliver his signature Muscle Buster finish and go for the pin ...1...2...no another kickout! but this time it was almost the 3 count.

    Both men look like they cant get up in fact after the kickout neither man even rises to their feet so the referee begins a ten count and just before 9 both men break the count and once again stare at each other perhaps wondering what will it take to keep the other man down. Joe ends the stare down this time with a thunderous chop but moments later Kobashi reciprocates, Joe hits another and again Kobashi does the same. Both men are teetering on the brink and look like they can barely stand under their own weight especially after each big chop. Joe mixes it up with a closed fist and Kobashi can only stay up with the assistance of the ropes before coming back with afist of his own causing Joe to do the same. A stiff forearm from Joe this time causes Kobashi to fall forwards actually using Joe to hold himself up before hitting him with and uppercut. One more forearm from Joe and Kobashi drops backwards while the momentum from the attack sees Joe collapse forwards falling on top of him. Kobasi's shoulders are down so the ref counts, 1...2...3!
    Winner:
    Samoa Joe
    You build on a streak and character like Samoa Joe's, it was squandered in many ways in real life but that will not be the case in the BWA. Kobashi would not be hurt losing in this way but Joe would look like a million bucks after coming through a war against a BWA stalwart and as a result him vs whoever is able to triumph in the main event would be money, Joe winning also leaves it open for a future rubber match between the two.
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    BH: Oh my gawd what a battle! neither man can even stand up and both man have to be helped to the back!
    JD: If they don't respect each other after that war they never will
    BH: Thats true but 1 important thing has changed after that, we now have a new no.1 contender in the still unbeaten Samoa Joe
    JD: And it is almost time for us to find out who's world title he will be no.1 contender too


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    BWA World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Hiroshi Tanahashi vs CM Punk vs Shinsuke Nakamura
    The BWA World Heavyweight champion Hiroshi Tanahashi is a shining light in the industry not only is he an incredible once in a century talent and the man who beat the best there is, the best there was and the best there ever would be in last years draft main event but he is also an honorable man. He is someone any promotion in the world would be happy to have as the face of their company and leading them forward. In fact he actually seeks out the best challengers he can possible get for his belt instead of running and hiding to keep it safe. When he heard the BWA was negotiating a cross promotional deal with the UFC for example he immediately asked the board to get CM Punk on board and book a once in a lifetime match for wrestlepalooza between them but by the time any deal was finalized another man had moved defiantly into the cross-hairs of the straight edge superstar, that man being the champions former best friend Shinsuke Nakamura.

    Nakamura shocked the world when after beating Seiji Sakaguchi in a match on Raw he shaved his head and seemingly started speaking in tongues in the middle of the ring. When Punk who was ringside watching as a fan suggested he was mimicking his straight Edge Society days Nakamura not for the last time lost it and took his fight to the UFC's Punk. He spat in his face, he invaded his press conference to attack him and he ran him and his family down at any opportunity so much so that Punk could not take it anymore and when all was said and done with the negotiations between the BWA and the UFC Punk showed up on BWA to get his vengence on Nakamura and to announce the main event for Wrestlepalooza would not be as expected him vs Tanahashi but a triple threat including Nakamura. In Punks eyes this match satisfied his 2 critera for stepping back in a wrestling ring 1) he could kick Nakamuras ass and 2) He would be in a world heavyweight title match in the biggest Pro wresting company in the world.

    The champ did what was best for the company and agreed to the blockbuster match but he didn't like the inclusion of Nakamura who he thought could only hurt the BWA brand by being in the main event let alone if he won the title. Add that to the fact that Punk isn't even a full time BWA wrestler and a lot is on the line for not just Tanahashi here but the company as a whole!
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    After some very elaborate entrances we finally have our three competitors facing each other in the ring. Ding! Ding! and we begin with all three exchanging glances as they circle the ring looking for an opening on each other but after Punk says sometime to Tanahashi this dynamic quickly changes with both men turning their attention towards the man who has taken to calling himself "The lord of Wrestling". It could be argued it's somewhat heelish to double team an apponent in a triple threat but after Nakamura's actions on Raw the crowd clearly think it's justified and cheer each shot as Nakamura is smacked back and forth. Eventually he rolls to the outside to catch his breath but Instead of turning on each other the champ and CM Punk shake hands and then after that sign of respect both men slingshot off the ring ropes and we see a double suicide dive to the outside. What a start!

    Tanahashi landed awkwardly and seems to be supporting his neck as he gets up and get back into the ring . He isn't first up though instead to everyone's surprise it is Nakamura who gets back in first and Punk who despite showing no signs of injury is on the mat the longest (the announcers say he is being smart here, intentionally taking his time). Nakamura hits an impressive Lariat and it is clear to see that the champ is really struggling with his neck a fact made many times worse as his opponent is able to catch him with his Boma Ye Knee strike as he tries to get back to his feet.
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    Tanahashi looks out cold but much to the announcers amazement Nakamura does not try for a pin but instead climbs the turnbuckle on the opposite side of the ring and stares up to the sky with his eyes rolled back and seems to be making a prayer type gesture as the fans boo him. They suddenly perk up though as behind him in the ring CM Punk arrives on the scene and grabs the downed champ and smelling blood locks in his Anaconda vice submission. The champ who had only just started to move again before the hold was locked in is clearly struggling and it looks like Punk could steal it here but the crowd cheers alerted Nakamura to the issue and he performs a diving elbow from across the ring to break the hold. Tanahashi rolls to the outside then as the two challengers duke it out in ring. Its Punk though who gets the best of this exchange with a variation of Muay Thai style kicks knocking Nakamura into the corner at which point Punk hits him with a Step-up high knee followed by a bulldog. Punk signals that he plans to put him to sleep now and goes to pick Nakamura up but doing what he must to survive Nakamura pokes Punk in the eye as he tries to do so.

    Punk who seems to be temporarily blinded is then whipped into the corner and has his head repeatedly smacked off the top turnbuckle before Nakamura pulls him up onto said turnbuckle and looks to be going to go for what the announcers believe will be his Landslide Samoan driver from up there. Punk though fights back and after a series of punches and a few more high knees it is Punk who is now setting up for a superplex. For the second time in a few minutes though Nakamura turns things around by raking punks eyes as the straight edge superstar falls into the center of the ring. Nakamura looks like he will hit his El Niño Springboard moonsault on Punk when suddenly Tanahashi re-enters the fray jumping onto the ring apron and with just a little pull sends his countryman flying from the top turnbuckle to the floor outside. The Ace of the Universe follows him jumping back down to the outside too where as the announcers put it he gets revenge on Nakamura by allowing him to rise to his knees before striking him with his shinning wizard knee strike.

    The crowd go even more crazy though when they realize that the champion isn't going to stop there and rolls his opponent onto the Spanish announce table before climbing onto it himself. He literally has to drag Nakamura up before attempting a move but as he does the "King of Hard Style" once again plays dirty to get out of trouble and delivers a low blow to Tanahashi who slumps over and both men fall down and lay flat out on the table.... holy sh!t only a few seconds later seemingly out of nowhere comes a CM Punk elbow drop. The replay shows him diving Macho Man Randy Savage style from the top turnbuckle and as he does he drives both men through the table.
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    All three men look completely out of it as the referee starts a ten count and gets as fat as 7 when suddenly Seiji Sakaguchi comes charging down to ringside and carries Nakamura back over to and into the ring. The referees count stops though as he is distracted by Sakaguchi's arrival whom he starts trying to get to leave the ringside area. Meanwhile Tanahashi is the first of all 3 competitors to actually get to his feet under his own influence and rolls back into the ring where he finds Nakamura still down and locks in his cloverleaf submission on him. Perhaps it is that this hold targets the exact part of his body that Punks elbow landed on when he drove him through the table or that he knows the ref is away but Nakamura starts to tap fairly quickly. He may have tapped but with the ref distracted Tanahashi doesn't get the win and as a result he throws his opponent to the mat and climbs up to the top rope and delivers his High Fly Flow Frogsplash. Nakamura squirms to get out of the way but Tanahashi comes down on the back of his head.
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    Both men really seem to be feeling it after that move but Nakamura has clearly taken more abuse and it is he that is slowly covered for a pin. Noticing this the ref finally stops trying to gt rid of Sakaguchi and gets back in position 1, 2...the pin is broken! Sakaguchi has grabbed Nakamuras leg and dragged him out of the ring.

    He actually begins to carry him up the ramp and towards the back but the ref has had enough anyway and starts calling for security to remove sakaguchi from the arena but instead it's Dan Severn who charges down to ringside and seemingly decides that the beating he gave Sakaguchi earlier in the night wasn't enough and he was going to stop his interference once and for all. The two brawl into the crowd and in doing so cause Sakaguchi to drop Nakamura off the ring ramp landing hard on the concrete below which the announcers really play up. Everyone's attention though is quickly drawn back to the ring where Tanahashi has gingerly gotten back to his feet thinking he has no opponent to face only for CM Punk who has just gotten back into the match and ring to spin him around lift him up and hit a GTS on the world heavyweight champion before going for a pin, 1...2...Kickout!

    He does not let up though and immediately grabs the champ, pulls him up and does his signature GTS taunt but astonsihingly the champ starts fighting back at this point with a number of big rights and lefts before the move can be performed. He beats Punk back and into the corner but Punk gets one shot in which gives him time to ascend the turnbuckle to the 2nd rope where he also pulls Tanahashi up to. The two competitors continue to exchange big shots with both men teetering and looking like they could fall in opposite direction until Punk hits a high knee and gains the advantage. He goes to the top rope where he butterflies the champs arms and hits his Pepsi Plunge Diving double underhook facebuster.

    He slowly climbs down and looks around to notice the third man (Nakamura) is nowhere to be seen as the crowd go wild and he makes the pin. 1....2....OMG the champion has kicked out again!

    Tanahashi still looks lifeless and near unconscious after doing so as the announcers play up the instinctive reaction and his heart of a champion but Punk is not to be detered and lifts him up and delivers his second GTS of the night before making his final pin of the night 1...2...3!
    Winner:
    and new BWA World Champion: CM Punk
    Explanation
    Controversy creates cash and the cross promotion with the UFC angle would be money especially with the champ involved garnering even more main stream attention and all the talk about wether he would stay with the BWA, fight in UFC as champ etc (by drafting him tho I locked him to a 12mth BWA deal). It opens up the possibility for another Punk vs Joe classic too or the obvious 1 on 1Tanahashi's rematch. Punk could go either heel or face from this point forward too (or just play a tweener role), hell he could even tease another summer of Punk angle with him taking the BWA title with him when he leaves the BWA and fights in UFC. Meanwhile Nakamura does not need the belt for his "Lord of Wrestling" angle to continue and he was not pinned in the match but could take his frustration out on his follower Sakaguchi for removing him from the match. Tanahashi and the whole Aces of The Universe losing thei matches could be a big storyline for all of them and after an initial rematch could play into the groups feud with GM Jerry Lawler maybe with Tanahashi facing off vs Lawlers boy Vader if Vader is going to be elevater to the main event after defeating Tanahashi's buddy Inoki.
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    As the new champion celebrates Samoa Joe slowly walks out onto the entrance ramp. CM Punk stops as the new no.1 contender catches his eye and we go off air with Joe making a belt gesture around his waist and a concerned look on Punks face. He has never defeated The Samoan Submission Machine despite 3 attempts in the past and now it looks like they are on a collision course right here in the BWA!


    BH: Samoa Joe vs CM Punk here in the BWA, I can't wait, it's going to be great!
    JD: well I'm sure Tanahashi and his rematch clause will have something to say about that, but either way the main event scene is looking great here in the BWA!
    BH: Yep, Punk is getting no rest here, that much is for sure. Well it's been a great night and I wanna thank you all for reading and remember... Vote Bounty Hunter




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    BWA 2015 Roster
    CM Punk
    Hiroshi Tanahashi
    Shinsuke Nakamura
    Kenta Kobashi
    Mitsuharu Misawa
    Samoa Joe
    Big Van Vader
    Jerry "The King" Lawler
    Jesse "The Body" Ventura
    Dan "The Beast" Severn
    "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey
    Abdullah The Butcher
    The Sheik
    Jack Brisco
    Gerry Brisco
    Pat Patterson
    Gorgeous George
    Antonio Inoki
    Seiji Sakaguchi
    Mil Mascaras
    Satoru Sayama aka Tiger Mask


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Guess who I went for? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Unreeal pairing again Ger, when is this man going to take his rightful place as a moderator of this board?

    I'm torn between the two, not because like most people I dislike them so much, but because I actually like them both. OK they've both gotten stale, but I blame creative for this, not the guys themselves and its every main eventer in WWE thats stale for me, not just these guys.

    I think i'm going to go for HHH on the back of his fine run during the Attitude era and especially his unbelievable set of matches from 1999 to 2000, where he was probably the best wrestler in the US, if not the world. While I think Cena has had more than his fair share of really good in ring performances, he hasn't quite hit those heights yet.

    As for all the inevitable wailing about HHH's politics, I couldn't give a toss. Hes a smart b*stard. He was never as bad as Hogan was and how many people voted for him the last time out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


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    Welcome to BWA Raw (Wrestlepalooza Fallout edition)
    live from The Sumo Hall in Tokyo

    BH: It's the Raw after wrestlepalooza JD! can you feel the excitement in the air ?
    JD: I sure can and what a Wrestlepalooza it was, a draft winning show!
    BH: Damn right and we will be celebrating that tonight but it must be said not everyone loved it as much as us and I'm not just talking about those in the other promotions like MNG productions.


    BWA Wrestlepalooza received mixed reviews in Japan as a result of how every Japanese wrestler booked on the PPV card shockingly lost on the night. #CancelBWEnetworkJapan was trending shortly after the event and this fact was picked up and reported on by all the dirt sheets, not just the Japanese ones. Now rumors are circulating that fans intend to boycott the remaining dates on the Japanese tour. Luckily for the BWA they had already sold out all their tickets for tonight's show so assuming everyone shows up they at least have one more chance to win back the local crowd.

    The camera pans around the arena as the show starts and although there do seems to be small pockets of unoccupied seats in this sold out arena it is pretty full as Jerry "The King" Lawler makes his way out and seemingly the entire arena boo in unison.
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    eventually the boos quieten just enough that Jerry can start to talk.
    Lawler: I suppose I should have expected that reaction. I am the man who booked Wrestlepalloza V and I know it didn't go down very well here. The BWA board of management have spoken to me about it and well they told me to come out here tonight and speak to you about it, to address the grievances you have about what happened at that show and try to make things right. (The fans actually stop booing and listen to what he has to say)

    Thats why I want to say to all of you in attendance tonight and to every Japanese fan watching at home that from the very bottom of my heart I am sorry. (The fans seem to gasp all at once in disbelief)

    I am sorry that not a single one of your heroes could step up when it counted, that in six different matches Japanese wrestlers turned out to be inferior to their American counterparts, That you all had to witness people like Mitsuharu Misawa or Antoni Inoki get shown to not be on the same level as wrestlers like myself or my man Vader... but most of all I am sorry that the person who had my job before me booked the PPV and this tour to go through your god forsaken country.

    JD: My gawd what is Lawler doing ?!? is he trying to get us run out of town?
    BH: The man is going to get himself killed if he doesen't shut up quick!


    Lawler continues though: I mean at least then I wouldnt have to come out here and deal with this nonsense. Last nights PPV was the highest rated BWA show of all time! It was not only a draft winning show but it had the best roster, match of the draft in Tanahashi vs Punk vs Nakumara and "Diva" of the year if you would dare call her that in the form of Ronda Rousey! Your not going to cancel the BWA network hell if anything i'd bet our numbers go up over the next few days cos you Japanese fans have lost your balls! Take the Vader Inoki fight for example, the last time those two squared pff was in this very arena and when as he did last night Vader dismantled that worthless piece of crap Antoni Inoki the fans rioted and NJPW was banned from this arena. Last night nothing not even boos, you just sat on your hand and like like right now listened to what you know to be the truth being revealed to you, that your just not as good as us...


    Suddenly the titantron lights up and after some initial static Antoni Inoki appears to a gigantic pop
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    The fans now begin to chant his name "Inoki, Inoki, Inoki" but stop to allow him to speak which he does first in Japanese before then repeating himself to Lawler in English. He tells him that despite Lawler using every underhanded and dishonest tactic in the book to win the right to be the BWA's general manager he is still in discussions with the BWA board about investing in the company and they seem to be willing to do anything they can to keep him at the negotiating table including offering Lawler up on a silver platter and that at BWA judgement day (live from Osaka at the end of the tour), it really would be Judgement day for Lawler as it would be Lawler vs Inoki 1on1.

    He says he would love to kick Jerry's ass right there and then but he has not been medically cleared to fight this week but promises something special for the crowd in the arena and announces that the main event will be Hiroshi Tanahashi getting his rematch for the World Heavyweight championship against CM Punk!

    The crowd are loving everything Inoki has to say whilst Lawler is clearly fuming and stars shouting "You can't do this I'm the general manager!" but Inoki quickly snaps back saying not tonight, that tonight Lawler is a BWA wrestler and that in fact his match is next against this man.... and then out comes Kenta Kobashi


    Opening Match: Kenta Kobashi vs Jerry Lawler

    Lawler does everything he can to avoid fighting Kobashi. First he claims that he isn't dressed for a match and Kobashi immediately strips him down to his wrestling gear which Jerry seems to always be wearing. He then feigns an injured back at which point Kobashi gives him not one, nor two but 3 German suplexes right onto said back much to the crowds amusement. A dazed Lawler rolls out of the ring and when the referee follows him trying to stop him from heading to the back (which clearly seems to be his plan) Jerry shouts at him "I dont fight for free!" before giving him a swift kick in the balls.

    Winner via DQ: Kenta Kobashi

    Despite Kobashi being announced the winner the crowd boo Lawlers actions but moments later they are cheering again as Mitsuharu Misawa comes charging down the ramp and grabs Lawler from behind and throws him back into the ring where Kobashi immediately kick him in his midsection before delivering him Orange Crush Vertical suplex powerbomb. Misawa then gets into the ring gingerly (clearly showing the punishment he took at the PPV) and when Lawler rises to his feet Kobashi & Misawa chop him from one to to another as the crowd cheer with each contact made. Eventually Lawler just drops to the mat after one chop and rolls to the outside where he lies in a heap as Misawa, Kobashi and The fans all enjoy the moment.
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    After the match Kobashi grabs a microphone and after thanking the fans for their support he directs his following comments towards Samoa Joe who he congratulates on last night being able to avenge the defeat he gave him in ROH in one hell of a battle but points out that that makes it 1 win a piece between them before challenging him to a rubber match next week in Hiroshima

    BH: my gawd can you believe we might actually get Joe vs Kobashi 3, next week?
    JD: If that doesen't sell whatever remaining tickets there are to the local fans then I don't know what would.
    BH: Well hang on *BH gets a message through his headset* ooo how about the fact that the Inoki/Lawler contract signing will be live next week too!
    JD: now that is big but talk about that and about our blockbuster main event for tonight will have to wait as here comes the man who until last night was called Tiger Mask!


    Satoru Sayama comes out and shakes Kobashi and Misawa's hands as he passes them on the aisle. His opponent Pat Patterson is out next and before the match begins takes a microphone and says that he considers it a huge honor to compete in the Sumo Hall just as he did The Tokyo Dome last night. He says that night was ruined on him by the despicable actions of Gorgeous George whom he announces will get his comeuppance at BWA Judgement Day in Osaka when he takes back what he describes as his Intercontinental championship. He also states that his opponent tonight is nothing like George and a very honorable man before shaking his hand and getting the competition underway.

    Satoru Sayama vs Pat Patterson

    The two show each other a lot of respect in this match up and he crowd really seem to enjoy what would be best described as a wrestling clinic until Gorgeous George comes out and his meer presence is enough to distract Patterson allowing Sayama to roll him up for the win.

    Winner: Satoru Sayama

    As Sayama heads to the back Gorgeous George slides into the ring and starts to attack Patterson from behind however the former Tiger Mask sees this on the titantron and returns to the ring and chases George out of the ring before helping Patterson to his feet, the two shake hands and then Patterson once again lifts Sayama's hand up saluting the man who defeated him today.
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    We then go backstage to where we see a p*ssed off Jerry Lawler in his office when in walks Big Van Vader. The King questions where Vader was earlier on but apparently the big man has only arrived in the arena just now so he is off the hook. Someone who won't be let off the hook though is Mitsuharu Misawa. Lawler says if he is healthy enough to attack him, then he is healthy enough to compete tonight and his opponent Lawler says will be Dan "The Beast" Severn!
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    Back at ringside and next out is Shinsuke Nakamura who gets a mixed reaction but the crowd seem to get more behind him when he calls out Samoa Joe. He is annoyed that Joe is now the no.1 contender for the world title a title that he says if not for Seiji Sakaguchi he would be wearing around his waist right now. However instead of Joe Jesse Ventura is the one to answer the call saying that he was embarrased at Wrestlepalooza and that he wants to prove his worth here tonight and that he will start by beating the man who claims he should be the champ.

    Shinsuke Nakamura vs Jesse Ventura

    As this one begins it looks like Ventura might actually deliver on his promise as he hits a number of big power move but as the match progresses he struggles to cope with the pace of his opponent and the announcers suggest that he seems to have lost some of his trademark swagger after his match at Wrestlepalooza with Ronda Rousey and with that maybe some of his belief in himself. As he gets more frustrated he becomes sloppy and allows Nakamura to take advantage which he does by first connecting with a series of dropkicks and then finishing him off with his Boma Ye Knee strike

    Winner Shinsuke Nakamura
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    JD: Despite Nakamura's recent behaviour the crowd seem happy with that, then again it's not like Ventura has been a fan favourite recently
    BH: yep and first Rousey at Wrestlepalooza and now losing tonight could things get any worse for Ventura?


    Virtually the second BH says that he gets his answer as Seiji Sakaguchi enters the ring enters the ring carrying a black bag and the two continue to beat down on Ventura. Eventually Nakamura stops and gives his disciple an order at which point he lifts Venturas head up with his hands placed either side of "The Body's" skull and rolls his eyes back before chanting at him in Japanese. As he does this (and forceably keeps Venturas eyes open with his thumbs) Sakaguchi removes an electric razor from the black bag and shaves off Venturas hair leaving him with like Sakaguchi himself a Nakamura style partially shaved look. Nakamura then drops Ventura to the map and shots at Sakaguchi in Japanese before leaving the ring and heading to the back. Sakaguchi follows him but is a little delayed as he drags behind him the near lifeless body of Jesse Ventura!
    Backstage we see The Aces of The Universe all together. They are clearly concerned about Mitsuharu Misawa and if he is capable of competing tonight when our backstage reporter Mitchel Cool approaches them and askes them specifically about that issue and the amount of abuse he took last night at the hands of Jerry Lawler and Big Van Vader. After some brief discussion in Japanese Misawa responds

    Misawa: Last night Jerry Lawler got his way and we were embarassed but tonight, tonight we take back what is ours. Our dignity (he slaps Inoki on the back) our pride (Kobashi gets a slap) and our titles (Now it's Tanahashi's turn). I may have taken a beating last night, in fact I did take a beating last night but... If Dan Severn, a former great, wants to start running Lawlers errands then tonight he will be running straight into my fist as just like the Japanese audience here tonight we are not going to going to take anymore sh!t from Lawler or anyone here in the BWA.
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    Misawa is first out for his match and then Dan Severn makes his way out to some minor boos perhaps in part due to him nce again wearing star spangles shorts but those dissapear once the local fans hear what "The Beast" has to say. He refuses to fight Misawa. He says he has the utmost respect in the world for him and that if he wishes to face him he will happily do it next week or as soon as he is medically right but that that isn't tonight. He talks about how it was an honor for him to fight infront of the great Japanese fans at Wrestlepalooza last night but if they were going to see Misawa vs Severn they deserved to see them both at 100% when they go at it. The two men shake hand and seem to have come to an agreement as Misaw takes the Mic.

    He never gets to say a word though as Jerry Lawler's music hits and out comes the BWA's GM to one hell of a negative reaction. He says that Severn has not only let him down here tonight but also his country before saying that Misawa made the mistake of putting his hands on him tonight so no matter what Severn or any of the idiots in the crowd say Misawa will see action except now he says.... it will be a tag team match! and as he says that out come their opponents Abdullah The Butcher and The Sheik

    Mitsuharu Misawa & Dan Severn vs Abdullah The Butcher & The Shiek

    Misawa starts strong in this match but eventually his injuries start to show and he tries to tag out but is just about stopped by The Shiek who drags him over to his corner as Lawlers henchmen start to tag in and out quickly while isolating Misawa from his partner. On a number of occasions The Shiek would also goad Severn into getting into the ring only for the ref to stop him and then be none the wiser as Abdullah jabs his fork into the already injured Misawa. The finish comes though when Misawa is finally able to get to his corner and with the hot tag Severn runs wild allowing the commentaters to now highlight that his opponents are also carrying injuries after their no DQ battles with The Brisco brothers the night before. Injuries which are cited as the reason for the quick tap when Severn locks in a Dragon sleeper and body scissors aka The Beast Choker on The Shiek.

    Winner via tapout: Dan Severn & Mitsuharu Misawa
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    Backstage we once again see an irate Jerry Lawler with Big Van Vader whom he says he wants to set these people straight next week in his match which is next, before Vader leaves Lawler also tells him he organized a little surprise for him with his introduction
    Elsewhere backstage we see the BWA Tag team Champions who issue an open challenge to any team including Misawa and Kobashi who never got a proper chance at a rematch against them to face them next week on BWE Raw where they will put the titles on the line

    As we return to the ring Seiji Sakaguchi is already in the ring as resual he gets a mixed reaction despite being in his homeland but the announcers speculate that he may perhaps be the fault fan favourite in this match just because of who his opponent is. The ring announcer then says " and his opponent, the man who caused a riot the last time he wrestled in this arena and defeated no demolished Antoni Inoki, weighing in at 450 pounds from The Rocky mountains in The United States of America, Big...Van...Vader!" (cue the boos)

    Seiji Sakaguchi vs Big Van Vader

    Vader absolutely dominates Sakaguchi including a Vader Crush big splash from the second rope and a powerbomb on the outside after which he tosses Sakaguchi back into the ring and hits a hugely impressive somersault for the win.

    Winner: Vader
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    After the match Vader grabs a Mic and goads the fans by actually asking them to boo him and looking like he loves it, that he feeds off it. Before he says that last night he once again defeated a huge Japanese star, tonight he defeated another and that next week he will defeat the almost all the rest of the Japanese wrestlers in the BWA before he drops the Mic and heads back stage.

    JD: The man is a beast, but what the hell is he talking about for next week!
    BH: Well I've just been told that Jerry Lawler has booked a 4 on 4 elimination tag match for next week as he, Abdullah The Butcher & Vader will take on The Aces of The Universe!
    JD: Damn thats a big one, but what about Joe vs Kobashi 3?
    BH: Hang on (listens to his headset)... apparently it will be Satoru Sayama joining Antoni Inoki, Mitsuharu Misawa and Hiroshi Tanahashi next week!


    Once more we head back to the GMs office but now Lawler looks much happier and is one the phone.

    The King: You liked that match announcement eh Crabman... well glad to hear it and I really have to say I really appreciate you calling to congratulate me on having the top rated show in the draft. You know you got my vote don't you? and it's not just because of the deal we just finalized... what? when? well they just arrived so tonight I guess and I suppose I'll let you go so you can get to your TV and see them do their thing.

    As he gets off the phone someone walks into the GMs office and blocks the camera view so we return to the announcers at ringside who speculate who the "They" might but are happy to have their conversation interrupted as Ronda Rousey comes out


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    She cuts a promo about how she has stayed here in Japan after her big win at Wrestlepalooza as she plans to re-start the BWA Womens division but that she doesn't want to fight "Divas" she is a fighter and she wants to find the best fighters Japan has to offer as looks to create the greatest female wrestling division of all time. She then announces that next week in Osaka she will hold open tryouts on Raw.

    The announcers speculate as to which fighters will show next week as Rousey poses with her UFC belt on the top turnbuckle when suddenly Aja Kong appears seemingly out of nowhere behind her in the ring and climbs up behind her and hits a belly to back suplex on her flinging her into the center of the ring. At this point Awesome Kong can suddenly be seen on the top turnbuckle on the other side of the ring and moments later she is airborne as she hits her Amazing Press diving splash on Ronda Rousey! The two ladies then pose over Rousey before back out of the ring and perhaps arena through the crowd.
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    JD: Holy SH*t! that was Double Kong! Awesome Kong and AJa Kong of the all female FPW here in the BWA, what the hell is going on!
    BH: Do you think maybe thats the "They" The King was talking about earlier, he did it with UFC, I wouldn't put it beyond him doing it with Fusion Pro
    JD: Man that would be huge I can't wait to find out whats going on there.
    BH: Well you will have to wait a little bit because it is time for our main event and Hiroshi Tanahashi's World Title rematch!

    BWA World Heavyweight Title match
    Hiroshi Tanahashi vs CM Punk (c)

    before this match begins the new no.1 contender Samoa Joe makes his way out to ringside and sits with the commentary team to get a front row seat for this match.

    This match starts at an incredible pace with both men really doing their best to get an early advantage here which Punk almost does when he hits a Tiger suplex from the second rope but Tanahashi fights back strongly and after a trio German suplexes it is Punk who is first to roll to theoutside to catch his breath. He gets very little time to do so though with Tanahashi performing his Dragon Rocket Suicide dive to the outside taking him out. CM Punk would return the favour a little later when it is his opponent trying to take a moment as this battle raged on for over half an hour without either man giving an inch.

    Both pulled out their signature submissions the Texas Cloverleaf and the Anaconda Vice but they refused to tap, then came the finishers with CM Punk first hitting a GTS out of nowhere but only getting a long 2 count before ascending to the top turnbuckle and hitting a Macho Man Elbow for another 2 count. The champ was starting to get seriously frustrated as he lifted Tanahashi up and hit a 2nd GTS and went for the pin only for the former champ to get his foot on the bottom rope and break the count. The crowd are loving it as Punk looks like he is about to tear his hair out and tosses Tanahashi to the outside where he places him on the announce table right infront of Samoa Joe he then ascends the corner turnbuckle and as he did in the main event of Wrestlepalooza signals that he plans to hit a Macho Man Elbow onto the announce table. Just before he jumps though Tanahashi rolls out of the way so Punk stops himself and climbs down.

    All the time it took for him to set his opponent on the table climb up and climb down seemingly was enough time for Tanahashi to regain some strenght and energy though as he catches Punk off guard as he gets down and hits him with an Enzuigiri which he follows up with a shinning wizard knee strike. He then rolls Punk back into the ring and goes for a pin but now its his turn to get a 2 count. He does not let up though and instead goes for and connects with his Kinkasan Suplex Bridging high-angle German suplex and again goes for the win but once more only gets a long 2 count before the champion kicks out. Now it's the former champ Tanahashi who seems to be wondering what he has to do to put Punk away as Punk once more rolls to the outside. Tanahashi goes after him and with a big suplex drops Punk down hard on the announcers table where he himself was laid out a little earlier. He almost hits Samoa Joe as he does so and Joe squares up to him but he simply tells Joe "you might want to move" as he like Punk earlier climbs the turnbuckle in the corner but does not waste time signalling his move and instead just hits it, it being his High Fly Flow Frog Splash onto Punk and through the announce table.

    Both men are in bits as the ref starts to count, he gets to 8 before either even stirs and it's the challenger who looks like he is going to get up and perhaps take the gold in doing so and looking like he's doing a press up starts to rise up as the ref calls out 9... but no his arms give way and he drops back down. CM Punk might be out cold but he will retain the title tonight


    Result: Double countout
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    On the BWA post show it is announced that CM Punk will have to actually defeat Hiroshi Tanahashi 1 on 1 if he is to move past the former champs champion as next week on BWA Raw They have been booked to do it all over again but this time in a last man standing match!
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    BWA 2015 Roster
    CM Punk
    Hiroshi Tanahashi
    Shinsuke Nakamura
    Kenta Kobashi
    Mitsuharu Misawa
    Samoa Joe
    Big Van Vader
    Jerry "The King" Lawler
    Jesse "The Body" Ventura
    Dan "The Beast" Severn
    "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey
    Abdullah The Butcher
    The Sheik
    Jack Brisco
    Gerry Brisco
    Pat Patterson
    Gorgeous George
    Antonio Inoki
    Seiji Sakaguchi
    Mil Mascaras
    Satoru Sayama aka Tiger Mask


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    Welcome to BWA Raw
    live from Philadelphia

    Jerry "The King" Lawler makes his way out to the ring. The crowd reaction is to say the least negative with huge amounts of booos
    "Ha... You know, I get it. You guys love those Aces of The Universe and you blame me that things have not been going their way recently but think about it... I mean really think about it. Every step I took, every single move I made was for your benefit and for the benefit of the BWA. I mean does anyone really think Mitsuharu Misawa would have Wrestlepalooza V's card looking so strong cos if I hadn't pissed off him and his little group of Aces we wouldnt be 1 week away from the biggest and best PPV in the whole draft PPV lineup.

    You say your annoyed I brought in Samoa Joe who cost them their tag titles but really you are all clamoring to see Joe vs Kobashi Ⅱ, The rematch we have all been waiting years for. Apparently you think I have stacked the odds against BWA champion Hiroshi Tanahashi and yet everyone won't stop talking about CM Punks return to the squared circle and that wouldn't have been possible with any other match nor any other man negotiating it. And again I have raised your anger and disrespected Antoni Inoki by bringing in Big Van Vader but in Japan you couldn't book a bigger rematch than those two going at it and I made that possible."

    "Hell even the tag title match at Wrestlepalooza has gotten a lot of flak cos I made it a no DQ match but really what other type of environment would you want to see people like Abdullah the butcher in. You might not realize it but I am giving you people exactly what you want and giving the BWA what it needs.
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    The boos are actually starting to die down a bit as perhaps the crowd are starting to see things from Lawlers perspective.

    Truth be told I was only ever given the GM position on a trial basis and that Wrestlepalooza was my chance to prove myself. That is why I pulled out all the stops to put on the best f'n show possible from Ronda Rousey's professional wrestling debut to the return of the Intercontinental championship.... and now despite all that I have to fight for my job! I have to take on a man who has done nothing to be worthy of this job. Getting your ass kicked by the briscos week after week does not qualify you to run the biggest show in town now does it.

    Suddenly out comes Mitsuharu Misawa dressed in a suit and tie

    Lawler: : look who it is all, dressed up... is that how you impressed the board cos I woulda thought they coulda seen past the label I mean this guy (points at Misawa who is now walking down the ramp and getting into the ring) tried to enter an ugly contest and the judge said 'Sorry, no professionals.

    Misawa grabs a mic and yells at Lawler "Shut the hell up Lawler"

    Misawa: God knows you can talk Jerry and i'll give it to you you have booked a great PPV but god damn whenever you open your mouth all that comes out is juvenile insults or lies. If you had come out and shown us or the fans the respect we deserve there would be no issue but you couldnt do that and now you will pay the price.
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    Getting my ass kicked by the Briscos doesent qualify me ha ha ha so funny Jerry... what about having been AJPW president, the founder of Pro Wrestling Noah and having served as the chairman of the Global Professional Wrestling Alliance ? no, no need to mention that eh Jerry. No need to mention anything that might not suit your agenda like the fact that the board have asked me to book the show tonight (the crowd cheer) no why mention that?

    Lawler looks like for the first time ever he is actually caught for words, something the commentators actually point out.

    Misawa: O don't worry Jerry I won't be booking you in any handicap matches or abuse my power as you have been doing but you do have a match tonight...against a man who I am sure will relish getting his hands on you almost as much as I will this Sunday... tonight Lawler you will go one on one with my friend Antonio Inoki!

    Lawler looks p!ssed and loses it as the two men who will go 1 on 1 for the chance to run the BWA come to blows in the ring. With Lawler getting in the better shots as by the time Misawa can get his suit jacket off security has stepped in to separate them and usher tonights GM to outside the ring. Jerry goes to follow him out of the ring until Misawa tells him not to go anywhere cos that match is next!

    Misawa heads over to BH at the announce table and whispers something to him as we go to commercial with Lawler looking mighty annoyed in the ring.
    live from the Tokyo Dome
    Wrestlepalooza V
    card so far

    Intercontinental title match
    Pat Patterson vs Gorgeous George

    BWA Tag Team Titles No DQ Tag Match
    The Brisco Brothers (c) vs Abdullah the Butcher & The Sheik

    GMship on the line
    Mitsuharu Misawa vs Jerry Lawler

    Cross Promotional inter-gender Bout
    Ronda Rousey vs Jesse "The Body" Ventura

    Grudge Match
    Antoni Inoki vs Big Van Vader

    No.1 Contender Match
    Joe vs Kobashi Ⅱ

    BWA World Heavyweight title match
    Hiroshi Tanahashi (c) vs CM Punk vs Shinsuke Nakamura


    JD: That really is one hell of a PPV line-up Lawler has gotten us
    BH: I have to give the devil his due it really is, but tonight it's Misawa in charge and he just informed me he's arranged a stellar main event for us
    JD: You mean on top of the Joe vs Kobashi Ⅱ contract signing?
    BH: yep! for the first time ever outside of Japan it will be Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Shinsuke Nakamura! and joining us on commentary for that match will be none other than CM Punk!
    JD: Jaysus I can't wait, although this match right here is PPV quality too.


    Opening match: Jerry "The King Lawler" vs Antonio Inoki


    Inoki who shakes Misawa's hand as he makes his way out and his countryman heads backstage looks really up for this one and starts the match like a man possessed. Vader may be the man he has history with and whom he will face at Wrestlepalooza but it was Lawler that set Vader on him. Unfortunately this match does not get to develop too much though as the before mentioned Vader spoils the show interfering and turning this bout into a 2 on 1 beatdown. The ref calls for the bell and gets in between the attackers and Inoki as the commentators ponder if perhaps we will get to see that 1on1 match go the distance somewhere down the line, perhaps on PPV.

    Winner via DQ: Antoni Inoki
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    The refs both brave and foolish actions allow Inoki to roll out of the ring and get up the ramp to where his associates Kenta Kobashi and Hiroshi Tanahashi eventually come out to help him to the back. Before that happens though he looks back to the ring to see his Wrestlepalooza V opponent grab the referee and give him a powerbomb.
    Backstage we see Mitsuharu Misawa in a makeshift GMs office where he is chatting to Mil Mascaras, We overhear Misawa tell Mil that he understands his desire for a big name opponent at Wrestlepalooza and although Jerry Lawler had seemingly overlooked the Mexican superstar he has a perfect opponent in mind. However Misawa states that he has to make a few calls to set things up but that up next Mascaras has a match and since he hasn't exactly been on a roll of late that he should get out there and show he deserves a match on the biggest card in all of sports entertainment.

    Gerry w/Jack Brisco vs Mil Mascaras

    This is a fairly even contest with Gerry Brisco impressing despite his opponent clearly looking like he has a point to prove, that is until Mascaras catches him in an Indian deathlock and everything changes. Jack pulls Gerry's free hand under the ropes and the ref who eventually notices forces Mascaras to break the hold. Gerry though isn't best pleased and tells his brother that he wants to win this honestly and not cheat (which he obviously considered his brothers assistance to be a form of). Overhearing what they were arguing over and realizing that Jack had just interfered the ref orders him to the back. His desire to win clean was honorable but as the commentators note he won't have such an option at Wrestlepalooza a fact that is further highlighted when the Mexican superstar picks up the win after a massive diving crossbody.

    Winner: Mil Marascas
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    JD: Should have accepted his brothers help
    BH: I hate to say it but the honourabe road is not always the right one to take when your inside a wrestling ring
    JD: well we will find out next Sunday just what lengths the Briscos will be willing to stoop to anyway because with the Sheik and The Butcher you can be sure it'll be anything but a clean match
    BH: agreed... look how much this win means for Mascaras though he has finally broken his losing streak

    Just then Mitsuharu Misawa Re-appears, this time on the titantron.

    "I am glad you took my words to heart Mascaras, that was a very impressive win and you will need to be at your impressive best for the match I have for you this Sunday in Tokyo. You see in the BWA you have to be willing to put everything on the line just to be here and your opponent at Wrestlepalooza understands this. That is why he specifically asked to face you in a match he knows you have never lost but a match where you like he have everything to lose... a Mask vs Mask match!

    therefore I would like to welcome to the BWA for the first time ever... Tiger Mask!

    out comes the Japanese masked hero who goes toe to toe with Mascaras in the ring. He points to the big Wrestlepalooza V sign suspended from the rafters and then when Mascaras nods to show he accepts the challenge the two shake hands garnering a great reaction from the fans in attendance.
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    Backstage Pat Patterson is interviewed by Sean Mooney and says that he can't believe what has happened to the BWA but that he plans on cleaning it up, first tonight where he will take on and beat a sexist pig (Jesse Ventura) before next sunday in Tokyo he saves the IC title from falling into the grasps of a homophobic low life whom he cannot believe he once looked up to

    BH: I really hope Pat can win both those matches his opponents really need to be taken down a peg or two
    JD: Couldn't agree more and... wait a second...Oh my gawd, it's CM Punk!
    BH: The UFC is in the house!


    CM Punk, Ronda Rousey and Dan Severn come out to one hell of a great reaction from the crowd. Punk sits in the middle of the ring in his cross legged pose he has become so well known for whilst the other two speak first.

    Ronda is first and says that it has already been announced that CM Punk will be on commentary when his PPV opponents go 1 on 1 but that she too will be at ringside for her opponents match tonight! She says she wants to see first hand why Ventura is so cocky that he agreed to an MMA rules match against as Eminem called her "The slaughterhouse in a blouse".
    A clip is shown of the media storm that was Rousey/Ventura in the past week, starting on Twitter where Ventura slammed the standard of fighters in UFC and then continuing on to Jimmy Kimmel Live and The Daily Show with John Stewart where The UFCs head honcho Dana White's old quotes about Rousey & Floyd Mayweather (There aren't many men in combat sports like her....Ronda Rousey would hurt Floyd Mayweather BAD!) lead to Jesse Ventura over compensating and claiming he would even beat her at her own game, a MMA rules match up... queue a joint BWE & UFC.com announcement that their match at Wrestlepalooza will now be contested under such rules.
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    She leaves the ring and heads to the back after this video and passes the Mic over to Dan Severn

    Then Severn takes the Mic and says that he too has been thinking about Wrestlepalooza. He says that he has asked Mitsuharu Misawa to get him an opponent tonight. He states that the UFC's deal with the BWA is for several PPVs and that he intends on making a statement at the first of them and that whomever gets in his way will pay the consequences.
    Just then Mitsuharu Misawa appears on the titantron. He confirms that yes Severn had asked him to find him an opponent for the upcoming PPV but that an opponent found him instead and that their match is now official and that it'l be...

    Misawa never gets to finish his though as Seiji Sakaguchi comes out of the crowd (much like the UFC fighters did last week when he and Nakamura were attacked) charging into the ring tackling Severn hard and sending the two through the second rope and to the outside. This causes Punk to get to his feet but he just watches on as the two fight all the way up the ramp and into the back. We are later informed that BWA security and backstage personnel eventually separated them.

    JD: You would have to assume that Misawa was about to announce Sakaguchi as his opponent for Wrestlepalooza
    BH: That would make sense... wait hold on (holds his headset and listens intently)... yes I can now confirm that match has officially been booked for this Sunday in the Dome


    Then it's CM Punks turn as the straight Edge superstar takes the Mic . He talks about his appearance on the show last week and how he was surprised at the thrill he felt setting foot in a professional wrestling ring once again. It was a first for him in as much as his first time appearing in a BWA ring and he says that next Sunday at Wrestlepalooza V it will be another first for him as he makes his Tokyo Dome debut while winning the BWA world heavyweight championship.
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    Just as the World title is mentioned... here comes the champ as Hiroshi Tanahashi's music hits and out he comes and enters the ring.
    He tells Punk that he specifically asked for a match vs Punk. That he went to the board of directors when he heard negotiations were on going with the UFC and told them to get him Punk for Wrestlepalooza. He says that last year he beat the man who called himself "The best there is, the best there was and the best there ever would be" in the drafts biggest main event ever and sent him packing to the BWA retirement home known as the WECWF. Now this year he wants to defeat the man who calls himself "The best in the World" because to put it in simple terms there can be only 1 best wrestler in the world and thats him.

    Punk: Usually at this point I would look the chump standing in front of me straight in the eye and tell him I am straight Edge and that that means I am better than you but Tanahashi I think your different. (he then reaches out and offers to shake the champs hand. The two shake hands but Punk refuses to release his grip) you see I don't think you smoke or abuse drink or drugs but my name is CM Punk and that means I am better than you!

    Tanahashi: I love it. I look into your eyes Punk and I can see you believe the words you say. You truly think you are the best in the world and I have to admire that. You have shown me respect by shaking my hand here tonight and through your words throughout the media recently. Me and you Going face to face, toe to toe, mano a mano, however you want to put it is a dream match that would headline any PPV for any promotion anywhere in the world... and I know that Jerry Lawler let you pick your opponent but I must ask you to please reconsider involving (Shinsuke) Nakamura.

    The man has not earned a title shot. You do not reward disgusting, dishonorable behavior like his in such a way. Had you not intervened the man would have been suspended for his actions

    They are both interrupted though as Shinsuke Nakamura emerges from the back whilst laughing to himself and looking rather crazed as per usual.
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    Nakamura: mwha ha ha, Tana.. you fool, you and your Aces of the Universe don't get it. Did you not hear Punk last week cos I did even after he attacked me from behind like the bitch that he is. I spat in his face, I interrupted his press conference and crushed his skull with my knee, I insulted the man and to put it simply I got in his head. I more than earned that title shot by making the great CM Punk want to fight me so much that he became a victim of his own greed and now his legacy will be meerly as the man who unleashed The Lord of Wrestling upon the world as BWA champion!

    Punk: Seriously The Lord of Wrest...

    Nakamura: Shut your god-damn mouth you sniveling piss-ant! I have a surprise in store for you tonight... both of you. But nobody should be surprised when I beat you tonight Tanahashi and then this Sunday (he lowers his head momentarily before raising it sharply with his eyes rolled back but continues talking) I will win the world title... believe... Then he snaps his fingers and all the lights in the Arena go out

    eventually the power is restored, and although the ring has been cleared the show resumes

    JD:What the hell did we just witness!?
    BH: I've no idea but I know we will see all 3 of those guys again for tonight's main event
    JD: and what do you think will be Nakamura's surprise
    BH: I don't even want to try and think what that madman might have in mind so thankfully we have a match coming up to focus on instead
    JD: I think this is one that Lawler booked during the week before Misawa came to power
    BH: Yep think this is what he considered a tune up match for the man who will face Antonio Inoki next Sunday


    2on1 Handicap match: Big Van Vader vs 2 local wrestlers

    Antoni Inoki comes out and views this one from the top of the ramp-way but unlike his PPV opponent earlier he stays outof the match as Vader dominates two men at once and eventually powerbombs both of them before performing his as always impressive moonsault for the win.

    Winner: Vader
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    Backstage we see a member of the BWA production staff knock on a door which almost immediately opens. The staff member then says "Ladies a space has been made for the two of you in the front row for tonight's main event, in case you need them these tickets were sent back for you" a slender hand takes the tickets and then just before the camera pans around to reveal whom they are Jesse Ventura walks past on his way out to the ring and the camera man immediately starts to follow him instead
    --Commercial Break--
    Did You know: In a previous draft then BWA chairman Bounty Hunters identity was revealed as none other than Jay Leno!
    Jesse Ventura makes his way out from the back accompanied by a lady whom he says he just had a little pre-emptive celebration with backstage such is his confidence going into tonights bout. He pats her on the backside and says "hoo-rah, now off with you missy" as he sends her back into the crowd in attendance here tonight chuckling to himself as he does.

    Ventura: I am a goddamn Sexual Tyrannosaurus I tells you... Woman just can't get enough of "The Body"... I guess that must be why Ronda Rousey is so desperate to get her hands on me at Wrestlepalooza. I even heard her quoting my old catchphrase this week such is her infatuation with me "Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat!". Now she was claiming my saying that is why I've been challenged to an MMA rules match where apparently I can't cheat but come on like im going to need to cheat in this one. Still ill give the little lady what she claims she wants when we head to Japan then after I make her submit we can have the rematch she really wants.... back at the hotel.

    Pat Patterson w/Ronda Rousey vs Jesse Ventura

    Just as this match is about to begin Ronda Rousey comes out to a great reaction and watches from ringside cheering on Patterson. On a number of occasions Ventura allows himself to be distracted by Rousey at ringside and one in particular leads to his downfall. After Ventura uses a typical heelish rake to the eyes Patterson is down in the opposite corner and the ref checking on him and his vision. Meanwhile Jesse turns his attention towards Ronda calling her over. I would say she goes face to face with him but with him standing on the ring apron she ends up going face to something else and is disgusted when Ventura starts gyrating and making gestures suggesting sex acts towards her. He laughs to himself and turns to get back into the ring but Rousey loses it feeling disrespected and low blows him. Ventura stumbles into the ring and right into Pat Patterson who rolls him up in a school boy style pin for the 3 count.

    Winner: Pat Patterson

    Ventura staggers to the back almost immediately clearly looking embarrassed by the loss as Rousey celebrates with Patterson.
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    These celebrations are cut a short though as Gorgeous George appears on the titantron and cuts a scathing promo on Patterson.
    *clap* *clap* *clap* well done Patterson, only thanks to a woman could you win a match. Thats how much of a joke you are. Speaking of jokes, your little speech last week about how much you looked up to and admired me sure gave me a laugh. Talking about the great pageantry of my entrance, the "resplendent capes" (actually does the air quotes) or my bravado and showmanship. The thing is I did all that for one simple reason... to piss people off! not to inspire some little queer, so Mr and Ms Patterson if I played any part in turning your son into the sniveling little b!tch the world saw on Legends house I am sorry but it's not my fault he didn't get that he loves what everyone is supposed to hate and he is what I hate. I assure you however I will beat some sense into him at Wrestlepalooza as I become the BWA intercontinental champion.
    As we head to commercial the BWA remind everyone that Gorgeous George does not represent the thoughts of everyone in the BWA and his opinions are simply his own. They then show the following clip for BWA legends house repeating this thursday night


    Samoa Joe vs Kenta Kobashi II Contract signing
    Tonight's GM Mitsuharu Misawa is in the ring holding a contract. He talks about how epic a bout the first meeting was between Samoa Joe and Kenta Kobashi was and how he never thought he would see a rematch. He then calls out his friend Kenta Kobashi who gets a very warm reaction from the BWA crowd which he thanks them for. He says that until recently he had huge respect for Samoa Joe. He says that nobody had pushed him to the limit like Joe had in years and that his undefeated streak since they faced off in TNA and RCW clearly showed he is a force to be reckoned with. That said he doesen't think this is the same Samoa Joe he faced back in ROH, that his actions since arriving in the BWA seem to suggest that he has changed and that... He is interrupted by Samoa Joe's music as out comes the Samoan Suplex Machine.

    He gets right up in Kobashi's face then turns to Misawa and snatches the contract from him and drops it on the table set up in the ring infront of Kobashi. "Sign it" he demands. Kobashi looks shocked and Misawa asks Joe to "show a little respect" at which point Joe stares the man in charge of the show right in the eye before pointing to the outside and screaming "get out!" at him. Misawa exchanges a glance with Kobashi and then as he is not exactly dressed to fight steps between the ropes and watches from the outside. "Now sign" shouts Joe... Kobashi looks confused but obliges and signs the contract. Joe almost immediately follows suit and then turns to leave but his now official Wrestlepalooza opponent grabs his arm to stop him and asks "what happened to you Joe?" "What happened to the man I faced in ROH?"

    Joe looks seriously pissed at Kobashi laying his hand on him and slowly turns to face him then grabs the mic out of Kobashi's hand. "What happened to him... what happened to him you ask... HE LOST! You see you and your cohorts (pointing out at Misawa) talk so much about respect that I bought into it, I showed you the respect I thought you deserved when we faced off... but I was wrong, I showed you too much respect and you took advantage of it. You didn't give me a chance to get back up when you knocked me down did you oh no that was this respectful fool but I realized something... you see the thing is Kobashi I don't need to respect you, i just need to beat you and damn am I going to beat you. I am going to beat you so bad you will be lucky if it isn't also your retirement match. Then as no.1 contender I will headline the next BWA PPV by beating your friend Tanahashi for the BWA world title, something you have never won" He then turns to leave the ring again but as he does Kobashi once again grabs his arm to stop him but this time as he Joe just turns around and starts laying into him with huge chops.
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    Misawa gets back into the ring to try and separate the two but receives a big chop for his trouble too before Joe rolls out of the ring and heads to the back

    Backstage interview with Hiroshi Tanahashi
    Josh Matthews: Earlier tonight you asked CM Punk to reconsider the match he negotiated for Wrestlepalooza. We have since learned that this match is now official and cannot be changed but why did you want Nakamura removed from the match... do you not think you can beat him?
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    Very few people know Shinsuke like I do Josh. Together we lead the way in NJPW's resurgence, then we made worldwide news when we left Japan and joined the BWA last year. Along with myself he was a founder member of the "Aces of the Universe" a group which not only dominated the federation and ran the dastardly Hart Federation out of the company whilst holding all the titles the BWA had to offer but also a group that brought honor and respect back to wrestling.

    You see Shinsuke wasn't just another great wrestler from Japan to me... he was my best friend. He was the man I always thought would be by my side and the one man whos support I came to count upon. I would never deny that man anything he wanted, anything he deserved or any opportunity but that man... that man is long gone.

    When I look at my former friend now, the man that calls himself the "lord of wrestling" all I see is someone who will drag the company down, someone who will bring our brand into disrepute and someone who should never be associated with the World Heavyweight Title. I mean we went through the same thing with the "Aces of The Universe". We didn't want to cast aside our brother but you see not everything in this world plays itself out on the set of our monday night wrestling show and trust me we tried everything within our power to help him but some people just can't be helped. Unfortunately sometimes people just have to be cut loose for the greater good.

    I mean Nakamura three weeks ago spat in the face of someone in the crowd and tried to posses a fellow wrestler, the following week in a non BWA arena he attacked someone and almost jeopardized a major deal for the company and then last week he stooped as low as to bring someones wife into his depraved little game.... Is that really someone you want to see fight given an opportunity for the most valued and prestigious championship in the world. No doubt he will try to do something despicable tonight too but just like this Sunday when we both return to Tokyo alongside CM Punk it will be up to me to stop him and up to me to fight for the pride of the BWA.

    Tonights main event
    Tanahashi vs Nakamura w/CM Punk on commentary

    CM Punk gets a great reaction as he comes out and joins the commentary team but then looks somewhat bemused as his wife AJ Lee and Tanahashi's wife make their way down to where two ringside seats had been squandered off for them.

    JD: I didn't even know Tanahashi had a wife
    BH: They are newlyweds and Hiroshi likes to keep such things private so seeing her here is quite a surprise
    JD: Speaking of surprise, Punk you don't look like you expected AJ here tonight either?
    Punk: Honestly I thought she was in FPW tonight but she did text me earlier saying she was looking forward to seeing me tonight so I guess it makes sense


    Then out come Tanahashi & Nakamura and we are treated to a match that looks something like this until the finish. Tanahashi does not seem to notice his wife's presence at ringside until midway through the match, (he seems surprised and bemused by it) but by that time the match has intensified to such an extent that his focus has to remain on his opponent.

    The end of this match sees Tanahashi lock in his cloverleaf submission only for Nakamura to make it to the ropes and force the hold to be broken. As the ref admonishes Tanahashi, Nakamura rolls to the outside where he searches through the red vest jacket that he wore out to the ring before getting back into face his opponent who quickly advances on him upon his return to the ring. Nakamura hits him with a big right hand and the champ drops to the mat immediately and is busted open. The commentators immediately spot that Nakamura had something metal in his hand which he must have gotten when on the outside and moments later it is reveal as a pair of steel handcuffs as he cuffs the bloodied Tanahashi to the turnbuckle.

    Upon seing this CM Punk immediately leaves the announce table and heads over to ringside and starts shouting at Nakamura. He does get his attention but Nakamura seemingly just laughs at him as he salutes the heavens. Perhaps that was a signal though as just then Seiji Sakaguchi jumps the guard rail and attacks Punk from behind ramming his head into the ring post on the outside. Then as Punk is disorientated Sakaguchi pulls out a pair of handcuffs of his own and cuffs Punk to that turnbuckle.

    The ref has obviously called for the bell at this point but Nakamura does not care as he starts slapping the sh!t out of the restrained Tanahashi in one corner while Sakaguchi does the same to Punk on the opposite side of the ring. Ms Tanahashi & AJ Lee are screaming at ringside having to watch this up close and personal and AJ just can't take it anymore and despite Tanahshi's wife's protests she jumps the barricade and rounds the ring looking to try and help her husband. Unfortunately though Nakamura intercepts her on route and tosses her into the ring. He then orders Sakaguchi to get Tanahashi's missus.
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    The two (particularly AJ) squirm to get away from Nakamura but after a double DDT plants them on the mat they lie motionless in the ring and squirm no more. The boos are now deafening from the crowd who clearly don't appreciate Nakamura laying his hands on the two women. Obviously neither do Punk and Tanahashi who both try their best to break free from their restraints but to no avail and they have to watch on as Nakamura once more shouts an order at Sakaguchi who this time retrieves a black bag from the outside from within which Nakamura produces an electric razor then in scenes reminiscent of 3 weeks back when Sakaguchi was the victim Nakamura proceeds to partially shave both womens long beautiful hair as Punk and Tanahashi shout abuse at him and continue to fight for their freedom. Sakaguchi then holds the ladies up on their knees before Nakamura as he rolls his eyes back in his head and starts chanting in Japanese but moments later he stops as he hears the crowd cheer.

    Dan Severn & Ronda Rousey, CM Punk's friends from the UFC are charging down to the ring to help out their buddy so Nakamura and Sakaguchi make a quick exit posing as they do, clearly claiming a mental victory here tonight. Surely there will be some repercussions for these heinous actions come Sunday in Tokyo though.
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    BWA 2015 Roster
    CM Punk
    Hiroshi Tanahashi
    Shinsuke Nakamura
    Kenta Kobashi
    Mitsuharu Misawa
    Samoa Joe
    Big Van Vader
    Jerry "The King" Lawler
    Jesse "The Body" Ventura
    Dan "The Beast" Severn
    "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey
    Abdullah The Butcher
    The Sheik
    Jack Brisco
    Gerry Brisco
    Pat Patterson
    Gorgeous George
    Antonio Inoki
    Seiji Sakaguchi
    Mil Mascaras
    Satoru Sayama aka Tiger Mask


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    And I thought Benoit/Hogan was gonna cause an arguement! Bloody hell ger, have I annoyed you in some way recently?! :D

    Seriously though, another great pairing, can see this one being very close again.

    I'm going with HHH, he's a shadow of himself due to his injuries but at his prime he was one of the best workers in the industry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Cena, mainly because I felt more emotionally involved in his quest for his first Heavyweight title reign than I did for Hunter's. When Cena beat Bradshaw I just said to myself "Yes, finally!"

    Whereas when HHH beat Mankind and SCSA all I felt was "Really? Meh." Just a huge sense of feeling underwhelmed.

    I just find it incredibly difficult to relate to the character of HHH.
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    BWA 2015 Roster
    CM Punk
    Hiroshi Tanahashi
    Shinsuke Nakamura
    Kenta Kobashi
    Mitsuharu Misawa
    Samoa Joe
    Big Van Vader
    Jerry "The King" Lawler
    Jesse "The Body" Ventura
    Dan "The Beast" Severn
    "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey
    Abdullah The Butcher
    The Sheik
    Jack Brisco
    Gerry Brisco
    Pat Patterson
    Gorgeous George
    Antonio Inoki
    Seiji Sakaguchi
    Mil Mascaras
    Satoru Sayama aka Tiger Mask


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    orestes wrote: »
    And I thought Benoit/Hogan was gonna cause an arguement! Bloody hell ger, have I annoyed you in some way recently?! :D

    Seriously though, another great pairing, can see this one being very close again.

    We need a nice clear cut win next week to save you some headaches.
    Week 7 who do you prefer The Rock vs Michelle Mc Cool. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    For discussion sakes' I'll throw out a point for those voting for Cena. If the main reasoning for you voting Cena over Hunter, is being bored with HHH (this is no suprise, he has been stale for some time now, and his ring work- while often good, is nowhere near the calibre of what it was in 2000-2001), does that mean all of the positive work that Cena has done now, will be disregarded in your eyes in five years time?

    For me, this is a tough one, because I find both guys really dull right now. I've been hypercritical of both all year, but it's largely because of the lousy booking (Show/Cena and Trips/Orton). They both have their strong points, but HHH especially, need to be in fresh feuds, with up-and-comers.

    I'll vote HHH, because over time, he's produced a more impressive body of work. Who knows, that may change to Cena a few years from now. But I doubt very much, he'll ever have a year to equal HHH's 2000.
    Whereas when HHH beat Mankind and SCSA all I felt was "Really? Meh." Just a huge sense of feeling underwhelmed.

    Just to point out, that HHH did not beat SCSA and Mick Foley for the belt. Foley pinned Austin in that match (if Summerslam 99 is what you're thinking of). Trips pinned Foley the following night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


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    Welcome to BWA Raw!
    Live in Memphis, Tennessee
    On the BWA Raw pre-show (linked) the past year of the promotion was recapped with particular focus being placed on the stable known as "The Aces of the Universe" and the rumours surrounding new talent joining the BWA most notably the UFC's Phil "CM Punk" Brooks who has further fueled speculation by letting it be known that he has front row tickets for tonights show.

    The crowd seem really pumped tonight as the Pyros go off and we prepare for the start of the show but they almost blow the roof off the arena when this music hits and Memphis wrestling Icon Jerry "The King" Lawler comes out.

    There had been a rumour circulating that he might show up tonight but nobody expected him to debut in the BWA by opening the show here and the resulting reception is overwhelming. Eventually the Jerry chants die down enough for him to get on the Mic
    "Thank you, thank you.... you know this is one moment where it really couldn't be more true to say... It's good to be the king! In fact it's great, great to be here in my hometown of Memphis and great to be in my new home The BWA! a place where they are willing to let The King be The King and speak my mind on some issues ive been bottling up recently."

    "Last year I competed and was the booker for a little known promotion called MNG productions... and I did one hell of a job even if I say so myself. Unfortunately once their road to Wrestlemania was gone and out of the way so was the chairman of that organization. He disappeared and left ol Jerry here holding the bag and I tell you that place was a mess, you know what im talking about don't ya Punk? Jerry points to CM Punk who is sat in the front row and whom headlined MNGs Wrestlemania last year. After a little smile Punk nods in agreement.

    "I tell you backstage in that place there were more tragedies than shakespeare coulda come up with, hell he (pointing to Punk again) wouldn't have walked out if that place wasn't so F...f'd up. But now... now I have a chance to put that place behind me, here in the BWA The King will do what the king does best and thats put on one hell of a show for the fine people of Memphis!"

    "O thats right, I'm in charge tonight...(the crowd are loving this)... I'm running the show here in the BWA now and you know what, I think to celebrate that fact we are going to have a World Heavyweight title match right here tonight in Memphis! The BWA World champion Hiroshi Tanahashi will defend his BWA World title against the living legend Mil Mascaras!"
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    "And I'm not done yet, the tag titles will be on the line as The Brisco Brothers will take on Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi! speaking of those boys I want to introduce to you the newest signing to team BWA and a man who has been rumoured to be the new fourth member of the Aces of the Universe....Antoni Inoki!

    Jerry notes that it was not indeed he who signed Inoki but that despite what he has heard he is happy to be able to be able to welcome him to the company. When questioned on what it was he had heard Lawler seems reluctant to say it but eventually elaborates saying how he had heard that Inoki who sold his controlling shares in NJPW after Tanahashi and Nakamura jumped ship to the BWA last year was looking to invest in this company. Lawler also admits that having only just taking over the booking he wasn't too excited at the potential that someone else might want to run the show.

    Inoki takes the Mic and thanks Jerry for the welcome and talks about how great an honor it is to be there and then admits he would love to run such a great promotion but says now is not the time to discuss such matters publicly nor is it the time to discuss who would book the show if any such a takeover should take place.
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    Lawler does not look too happy at Inoki's response and seems to be shaking his head and muttering something along the lines of "no thats not what time it is"

    Just then we hear bellowing throughout the arena "It's time! It's time! It's Vader time!"

    Announcer 1 (good old JD) : No it can't be!
    Announcer 2 (BH): Is that another guy jumping ship from MNG to the BWA?
    #JD: My gawd it is, It's the Mastadon, Big Van Vader is here!


    Vader makes his way down to the ring, enters and goes face to face with Inoki who really looks like he didn't expect this at all. Did Lawler though? The local man made a quick exit from the ring and headed to the back leaving the Japanese legend alone to see what the big man wants. Vader motions for Inoki to give him the microphone. Instead he seems to be asking him something, perhaps wondering what he's doing here but the beast of a man says nothing in return and just continues to demand the mic.

    #BH: Be smart Antonio, give the man what he wants

    It seems Inoki is thinking the same thing as he slowly hands it over and it looks like we are going to hear from Vader as after a few moments of contemplation he raises the mic up but then just as he looks ready to speak the deceptively quick big man spring into action cracking the microphone over Inoki's head. He is sent stumbling backwards but isn't out and turns to face his attacker but in doing so turns into a monstrous Lariat. The Japanese native is then the victim of a Vader Slam (Running powerslam) as the boos start to ring out throughout the arena. Unluckily for Inoki though public opinion does not sway Vader as he then ascends the turnbuckle before hitting a Moonsault so impressive the crowd is temporarily silenced. Boos quickly return though as Vader makes his way up the ramp and medical personnel are left to check on the downed Inoki,
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    First match: Pat Patterson vs Julio Fantastico

    On his way to the ring the Patterson stops to greet CM Punk. As he does he is attacked from behind by Senor fantastico.

    Julio rolls him into the ring and continues the pre-match assault before catching Pat in a roll-up pin almost immediately when the bell is rung to begin the match. Luckily he kicks out just before the 3 count and then slowly Patterson is able to recover from the heelish attack and perhaps as a result how dominant he is throughout the following match impresses more than you would expect from a match against a so called jobber . It also establishes the canadian grappler as a face before a boston crab submission leads to the victory

    Winner: Pat Patterson
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    Backstage Segment:
    Mike McGuirk is backstage with Jesse Ventura whose opinion he seeks on Jerry Lawler supposedly being in charge of BWA Raw. Ventura questions what exactly one would call being in control if someone could claim that is what they just saw from the Memphis native adding that he had heard a rumor that if Inoki does take over it'l be him asked to take over but that they should know he would see it as merely a stepping stone to a higher office. McGuirk moves past that though and onto Ventura's own recent controversy and how it has effected how he interacts with he BWA universe.

    Ventura's response may have raised some eyesbrows though:
    " You know what Mike, I would rather be uncomfortable with the truth than to be lied to in comfort. That's just my nature. There might be a god-damned media conspiracy against me cos I sued the American Sniper but you know what... I Won. I was right and that means that with the star f*ckers in the BWA universe it won't change a damn thing as now they can justify cheering me cos the reason i'm here in Memphis tonight is simple... beating some trash and then geting some Ass!

    McGuirk shakes his head disapprovingly as "The Body" walks away

    #BH: Do you believe the balls on that man?
    #JD: Yeah I think i'd reverse the order if I was him considering the standard of women he usually picks up!
    #BH: Beating some ass and getting some t... wait no I mean his comments about The American Hero whose family he sued
    #JD: Shhhh here he comes


    Jesse "The Body" Ventura vs Localo Joberino

    *As Ventura makes his entrance the announcers reference how he has recently been taking a fan out of the audience after his matches to "Celebrate with backstage" and question how much self respect these ladies must have*

    The Body makes short work of the local wrestler and after a few big clotheslines, then finishes him off with his Body Breaker Inverted bearhug.

    Winner: Jesse Ventura

    Ventura then proceeds to act like he has just won the world title, over celebrating his victory and as they have the last few weeks since these antics first began the crowd give him a very mixed reaction with ever increasing boos. Despite that it doesn't take him long to find a attractive young blonde lady wearing a CM Punk shirt who is willing to join his celebration backstage. "You'll do" is what he is heard to exclaim before lifting her over the barricade squeezing the young ladies backside as he does.
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    Backstage Segment
    Sean Mooney interviews Seiji Sakaguchi asking him about how Nakamura has been acting a little odd recently and if he knows how to approach such an erratic opponent. Sakaguchi reminds everyone about all the great things he has done in his career before coming to the BWA and all the stars he has beaten in the past. He says that they are all household names here in America but Sakaguchi...nobody knows who the hell he is! tonight though he says that will all change and if Nakamura acts even half as erratic in the ring as he has out of it recently then he will exploit it and that beating Nakamura will just be his first step on the road to the top and the acclaim he deserves.
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    Shinsuke Nakamura vs Seiji Sakaguchi

    If the WHC main event is to top this one it will have some way to go with both fighters pulling out their A game in this match up with Sakaguchi in particular impressing the crowd at first. It was After a full 20mins of back and forth action when the crowd had well and truly gotten into it that He (Sakaguchi) locked in a sleeperhold It looks like Nakamura is fading and eventually after almost a minute in the hold half of which he spent trying to fight out of it his eyes close and his body posture seems to suggest he's out. The ref raises his hand as the camera zooms in close on him, 1 - arm drops near limp, 2 - The same again, is this one over? then as the ref raises his hand for a third time Nakamura's eyes shoot open wide but with his eyeballs rolled (undertaker like) back so all you can see is white. This image along with the fact that he starts chanting in Japanese sends the ref stumbling back in shock as if he has seen a ghost.

    The refs reaction along with seeing a close up of Nakamuras face on the Titantron also causes Sakaguchi to release the sleeper and step back aghast at what he sees. This was a mistake as seemingly the second he is freed from the hold Nakamuras weird trance like state reverts back to normality and he slingshots himself of the rope before hitting a hugely impressive one leg dropkick to his opponent. Everyone is stunned but Nakamura seems 100% in the moment and as Sakaguchi tries to rise back to his feet he is caught by the Boma Ye Knee strike. 1-2-3!

    Winner: Shinsuke Nakamura
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    After the match when Sakaguchi finally comes around and gets to a knee...BOOM!...another Boma Ya Knee strike is delivered sending him crashing to the mat and causing many in the arena to fear for his health. Nakamura though is just laughing Maniacally in ring until he suddenly stops and turns his attention back to his fallen countryman. He places one hand on either side of his head and lifts him up by the head. Then while holding him in this position he goes face to face with him and then just like earlier he rolls his eyes back into his head and starts chanting in Japanese.

    A moment later he drops him back to the mat and starts stumbling around a little disorientated himself before heading over to one of the corners where a young Japanese boy hands him a little bag from which he produces an electric razor. He grabs Sakaguchi's head and quickly shaves off big portions of his hair while shouting "I am your lord!" in between some Japanese. Eventually extra referees and security forcefully separate Nakamura from Sakaguchi but as they help the latter to the back Nakamura (who is being held at ringside until his opponent is safely gone) continues to shout the same bilingual phrases at him.


    #BH: Wow... I really don't know what to say about that and it takes a lot to leave me speechless
    #JD: Well lets see what a very special member of the BWA universe in attendance here tonight thought of all that then
    #BH: Good idea, Josh, have you got him Josh?

    Josh Matthews interviews CM Punk
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    Josh Matthews: So Punk, can you tell me your thoughts on what you just witnessed?

    CM Punk: "That was intense... I mean normally I'd tell you this has nothing to do with me and to focus on the product but what can I say... some of that was a little familiar."

    Josh: "What do you mean? I've never seen anything like that before

    Punk: Really? great wrestler, thinks he is a god, shaving heads in the ring... I mean im flattered and all but

    Josh: Are you trying to say that Nakamura was copying what you did previously?

    Punk: well I'm not sure if thats how I would phra...

    Just then the interview is interrupted by none other than Shinsuke Nakamura who pushes Josh out of the way to get to Punk but the security who had been ushering him up the aisle quickly (the moment he gets physical with the interviewer) get between them. There is a brief stare down as Punk seems to laugh off Nakamura while asking him "Yeah and what?" before suddenly Nakamura's head lunges forward and he spits right onto Punks face! after a moment of shock the security is called into action to keep Punk from jumping the barricade and more appear on the scene to force Nakamura who is now once again laughing like a crazy person into the back.


    #BH: Dear god have you ever seen anything like this?
    #JD: Never, that is just, thats so...
    #BH: We sincerely want to apologize to everyone watching, BWA superstars don't usually act like that. I don't know what has gotten into that young man
    #JD: He really has not been himself for some time now but that...


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    A quick promo plays hyping next months BWA PPV

    Backstage segment
    Todd Grisham interviews BWA Tag Team Champions Kenta Kobashi & Mitsuharu Misawa and first asks them about what they just witnessed from the former "Ace of The Universe" Shinsuke Nakamura. They emphasize that he is indeed not associated with them anymore and that it was erratic behavior like that which lead to their parting ways but that if they can help him get back on the right track in anyway they would be more than happy to. They talk about how their close friend Antonio Inoki was also subjected to a shocking assault tonight before they arrived at the arena and that they are still trying to get word on his condition after he was taken to a local medical facility. Todd asks them if with everything going on they will be able to focus on their match up next and they simply say the will have to because one slip up and a team like The Briscos will punish you

    #BH: It really has been one hell of a start here on BWA Raw!
    #JD: Yeah I honestly wouldnt blame the tag champs if they were a little preoccupied with thoughts of their friend
    #BH: well JD here they come now, it's time for our first title match of the night!

    BWA Tag Team titles match
    Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi vs The Brisco Brothers

    The challengers really push the champs to the limit here in what most say would have been a 5 star match until the unexpected happens once more. At one point all four combatants are in the ring as Jack Brisco is breaking up a pin attempt on his brother by Mitsuharu Misawa and Kobashi is tring to forcably stop him and in doing so knocks the older Brisco and himself to the outside. The two look to be about to get into it but show each other respect and back away Brisco getting back onto the apron in his corner which they are next to and Kobashi walking back around the ring towards his corner. Suddenly what looks like a fan in a hoodie hops over the guard rail though and attacks Kobashi from behind , after a few viscious rights and lefts he pulls off the hood and OMG! it's Samoa Joe. Joe then grabs his disorientated opponent up onto his shoulders and hits a muscle buster on the outside before leaving up the ramp. The ref and Mitsuharu Misawa had been distracted by the action in the ring but now that action becomes a 2 on 1 and slowly MIsawa cannot take it anymore and the Briscos take turns in locking in figure four leg locks which eventually Misawa taps to!

    Winners and new tag team champions The Brisco Brothers
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    JD: Bah Gawd We have new tag champs and it's all thanks to Samoa Joe of all people
    BH: That's right the hottest free agent in all of Pro Wrestling seems to have signed with the BWA and what an impact he has made on his first night.
    JD: and what a night it has been BH!
    BH: That's right but I don't think things are going to calm down just yet as our man backstage is trying to get an explanation for his actions from Shinsuke Nakamura right now!


    Backstage Segment
    Kevin Kelly interviews Shinsuke Nakamura about his actions earlier tonight. Stood beside them is Nakamura's opponent from tonights match Seiji Sakaguchi and it seems he has had his new hairdo finished as he now sports a Nakamura-esque partially shaved look. Nakamura is swaying from side to side when Kelly asks him if he would like to apologize to the BWA universe and to CM Punk for his actions tonight eliciting a sudden stop and a look of disdain before he starts screaming その小さな雌犬に謝罪...

    A few seconds after his rant finishes Nakamura grabs the Mic off the interviewer and gives it to Sakaguchi before giving him an order in Japanese 今それを言う!

    Sakaguchi: "Nakamura says (Nakamura screams something), My Lord says that nobody should be talking about CM Punk. He says that what you witnessed out there tonight was only the start and for that ummm (Nakamura:あく!) Piece of scum to suggest he was imitating anyone else sickens him.

    He then looks at Nakamura who screams 最初の犠牲者! before saying "CM Punk will be the first victim"
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    #BH: What in the world does that mean? and why in gods name is Skaguchi taking orders from that madman?!?
    #JD: I have no idea but I wouldn't want to mess with that nutjob!
    #BH: Well I am sure the boys on the post show will have a lot to say about that but for now we have our blockbuster main event to get to

    World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Mil Mascaras

    A back and forth match that would be worthy of its place main eventing any PPV let alone the season premier of BWA Raw comes to a close as Mascaras hits a sweet vertical suplex and then goes up top for his diving crossbody but at the last second the champion rolls out of the way. Mil lands hard on his chest which he seemed to injure earlier in the match after a dive through the ring ropes lead to him colliding with the ringside barricade. Tanahashi without missing a beat then ascended the turnbuckle himself and hit his High Fly Flow Frog splash. Again this causes huge pain to the challengers abdomen and perhaps spotting this Tanahashi decided not to go for the pin but instead locks in a cloverleaf submission which Mascaras eventually taps out to.

    Winner: Hiroshi Tanahashi
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    That was one hell of a match up but a deserved winner has emerged and Mascaras seems unashamed of pointing out he was beaten by the better man on the night and a man who deserves his respect. The two shake hands before Mascaras exits the ring leaving the champ in the ring to play us out on his air guitar!

    He is celebrating now but it hasn't exactly been the best night for The Aces of The Universe. A shock Samoa Joe debut cost Misawa & Kobashi the tag titles, their associate Antonio Inoki was sent to the hospital by Big Van Vader and their former ally Shinsuke Nakamura seemingly snapped live on national television. One can only wonder what will happen next week!
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    BWA 2015 Roster
    CM Punk
    Hiroshi Tanahashi
    Shinsuke Nakamura
    Kenta Kobashi
    Mitsuharu Misawa
    Samoa Joe
    Big Van Vader
    Jerry "The King" Lawler
    Jesse "The Body" Ventura
    Dan "The Beast" Severn
    "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey
    The Sheik
    Abdullah The Butcher
    Jack Brisco
    Gerry Brisco
    Pat Patterson
    Georgeous George
    Antonio Inoki
    Seiji Sakaguchi
    Mil Mascaras


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2



    I'll vote HHH, because over time, he's produced a more impressive body of work. Who knows, that may change to Cena a few years from now. But I doubt very much, he'll ever have a year to equal HHH's 2000.

    He already had in 2007. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


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    Welcome to BWA Raw!
    Live from California

    #BH: Greetings and salutations to our fans all around the world to what I guarantee you will be a blockbuster edition of BWA Raw
    #JD: Yep, if you thought last week was something special just wait for the big announcements we have in store for you today
    #BH: Jerry Lawler has already said on BWA.com that tonights main event will see the man who cost the Aces of The Universe the tag titles last week debut in ring
    #JD: now that is a surprise I thought we would have to wait till Wrestlepalooza to see him compete
    #BH: Well my sources are telling me that won't be the biggest surprise of the night so be prepared for a big one
    #JD: You gotta always be prepare for that here in the BWA as look the action is starting already


    Jack & Jerry Brisco are in the ring and they call out the former tag champions Kenta Kobashi & Mitsuharu Misawa who quickly oblige. THe Briscos say that the way in which they won the title has left a sour taste in their mouths and that they want to offer the former champs an immediate rematch for the belts so as to really prove who the better team is. The two Japanese superstars say that the Briscos are acting like true champions and showing great honor and are more than happy to accept the rematch.
    BWA tag team championship rematch
    Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi vs The Brisco brothers (c)

    The Briscos look great in this match and look deserving champions despite how they won the belts but the former champions come into it more and more as the match develops and arguably are the more on top duo when things fall apart akin to last week. It's Misawa and Jack brisco in the ring when suddenly we hear what sounds like the Godzilla March theme play and yes it's Samoa Joe again! Kobashi jumps down off the apron and starts screaming at joe to come down and face him as Joe just grins back in response. Perhaps this is because he sees that in ring Misawa is also fixated on the Samoan submission machine allowing Brisco to roll him up from behind for the 3 count.

    Winner: The Brisco Brothers
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    Misawa and Kobashi look like they could snap as Joe exits to the back, their tag titles are gone and the newest member of the BWA roster seems to have it out for them. They don't follow him to the back though because their attention is suddenly drawn to the titantron where current GM Jerry "The King" Lawler appears. It's not the former champs but the current champs he addresses though reminding them that in only a few weeks the BWAs biggest PPV of the year Wrestlepalooza will take place and that at that event they will have to defend their tag team titles.

    Jack Brisco speaks up and says that he would like to face Misawa & Kobashi again at the PPV given how their rematch ended but Lawler says NO! he says that those two will not be teaming together at the PPV but will instead be in singles action (again the asian superstars look rightly p!ssed) but Lawler says he has scoured the earth to look for suitable opponents for you at Wrestlepalooza and here they are...
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    their entrance music is new to the BWA but the fans immediately recognize The Shiek & Abdullah The Butcher

    Abdullah: This is The Great Sheik and I am the man they call the Madman from The Sudan, Abdullah The Butcher. We will show you the respect you deserve... by taking those belts away from you at WrestlePalooza!

    Jerry Brisco Grabs the Mic from his brother: Ok your on!

    Abdullah: wha ha ha ha The Shiek: aloo, aloo!

    #JD: That might have been a mistake by the younger Brisco
    #BH: Yeah I don't think those two even know the meaning of the word respect, they are like polar opposites to Kobashi & Misawa and to The Briscos
    #JD: Well it looks like our first match for BWA Wrestlepalooza V has just been booked either way
    #BH: Here look at this, it'l show you you just what kinda guys we are talking about


    We return from commercial and Abdullah the Butcher has made his way down to the ring while all the others have left. He is awaiting his opponent who is announced as Antonio Inoki and gets a great reaction from the crowd in attendance.

    Antonio Inoki vs Abdullah The Butcher w/The Sheik

    The two are having quite a good match with the commentators being particularily impressed by Abdullah and how he hasnt resorted to his usual cheating tactics but eventually Inoki seems to be getting on top and perhaps is going for the finish when he maneuvers into position for his Manji-Gatame octopus hold when out comes Vader!. The big man makes his way straight for Inoki but the ref and then security block his way unfortunately just Vaders meer presence does enough to distract not only Inoki but also the referee who does not notice the Shiek pass something to Abdullah... it's his fork! he is notorious for using that instrument in hardcore matches and now despite this not being such a match he uses it again this time on Inoki jabbing it into his forhead and busting him open. Inoki drops to the mat and rolls out of the ring covered in blood and screaming in pain. The ref unaware of what happened starts to count him out as he stumbles up the ramp way and into the back
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    Abbie does celebrate the win but the focus is clearly on Vader who is now in the ring and removes his headgear before grabbing a Mic
    Vader: Inoki! you chicken get back here now!....(waits a moment but it's clear Inoki isn't coming back)... Can you not hear me, get back out here you god-damn Japanese bastard!

    The security who had stopped him getting to Inoki moments earlier now surround the announce team as Bounty Hunter stands up and addresses the Mastadon.

    BH: Vader, Vader... Inoki is not going to come back out here but... your here, so... why don't you let us all know what you are doing in the BWA? andwhat is your beef with Inoki anyway?

    Vader looks at the commentator with pure disdain but does respond: I will make this simple so even a cretin like you can follow this BH...It is Vader time right now! ... hell it's been Vader time for a long long time but the monkeys pulling the strings in MNG productions would never book me in my rightful place, the main event. Don't believe me? ask Lawler about how he was forced to put over paid pre-madonnas like Hulk Hogan in the main event picture ahead of me and how the moment he got the chance to run the show here in the BWA and the freedom that allowed him he gave his old friend Vader a call.

    You see he knows what I can do, he knows the value I bring but he is not the only one... just ask any of the Japanese stars on this roster, they all know what im all about cos I was like Godzilla in that b!tch and destroyed all in my wake. I mean I beat Antoni Inoki so bad the last time I was in Japan that the locals started a riot and now all I gotta do that again and then I will be back where I deserve to be tearing apart the main event scene in the greatest promotion in the world!

    So Inoki consider yourself on notice... at Wrestlepalooza it's me vs you one more time!
    Backstage interview with Jerry Lawler
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    Scott Stanford tries to ask about the altercation with Vader and Inoki last week and again this week but once he mentions the big man he gets cut off.

    Lawler: Vader, Vader! I tell you when that man was born his father tried to collect on his accident insurance. He is a walking accident waiting to happen and I assure you everything he is saying is nothing more than a pack of lies. Having said that we are heading to Japan and the Tokyo dome for Wrestlepalooza and if Antonio Inioki would like the chance to avenge this attack and the beating he took when he faced Vader there before then I would be more than happy to book a rematch for him (he grins).

    Lawler is then asking Stanford to leave but not before Mitsuahru Misawa and Kenta Kobashi come charging into the GMs office. They are not buying his excuses for one moment and confront him over the attacks on Inoki, Samoa Joe's interference and why they won't be getting another tag title shot. He says he will answer all their questions but that they will have to wait till next week as he is still finalizing another big signing to the BWA brand at the moment. They don't look satisfied but security ensure they don't cause trouble.

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    A promo airs for the newest episode of the monday night wars talking about how these federations continiously raided federations such as Beyond Chaos, MWF, PWC, JCW and the LWE for talent

    Shinsuke Nakamura vs Pat Patterson

    Again Nakamura's behaviour is quite erratic throughout this bout and very hard to predict but the most impressive thing is how he seems to be able to counter almost anything Patterson tries. This not only hugely frustrates Patterson leads to him making an uncharacteristic mistake while trying to do something different to catch Nakamura out. He climbs onto the turnbuckle and looks to adjust himself for a moonsault after taking his opponent down with a big clothesline but Nakamura is up like a shot and catches Patterson with a huge superplex which he immediately follows up with his own El Niño Springboard moonsault off the turnbuckle. He doesent stop there though and instead lifts up his opponent before hitting a GTS on him for the 3 count.

    Winner: Nakamura

    After the match Nakamura grabs his Hardcore title which until recently he had been should be considered far more prestigious than a normal US hardcore belt because it meant he was the King of Hard Style wrestling. Then while kneeling in ring with it in his hand he starts cracking it against his own skull! He does so several times while the arena is in stunned silence. Luckily for him hardcore titles tend not to be made of the most valuable and strongest of metals and the thing breaks right down the middle after one particularly strong head shot. then as he looks up with blood dripping from his face and says "I have evolved beyond this title, I have a grander purpose now and a bigger target which I too will break" before bursting into laughter.
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    #JD: Jaysus what the hell was all that business with his Hardcore belt? and wasn't that CM Punks GTS move he did to win the match?
    #BH: Yeah I think someone is clearly trying to send a message
    #JD: Well lets see if Punk has anything to say about him
    #BH: Right because now we are going to take you to highlights from the 1st hour of the ongoing UFC press conference with CM Punk, Dan Severn, Ronda Rousey & Others. Why will we do this live on BWA raw well there is some huge news here for BWA fans!

    The Highlights from hour 1 included
    * UFC have signed a cross promotional deal with the BWA starting with BWA Wrestlepalooza V
    * They never did this with WWE or any other promotion for fears of the feds legitimacy.
    * This deal does not currently include any involvement from CM Punk although fighting the BWA world champion would intrigue him
    * He says that Nakamura is beneath him and that his stunt last week was laughable
    * Ronda Rousey spoke about how she is a big wrestling fan but left the press conference early
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    #JD: Now that is huge news
    #BH: It sure is and we will hear more about that with hour 2 of that press conference a little bit later tonight

    Jesse Ventura in ring promo
    Ventura: I hold before me a copy of the local daily news paper and a copy of the British Daily Mail for today. they both run a story about me your future president and the sexiest man in the BWA, Jesse "The Body" Ventura, I'm international news baby! They both say I won't be watching that piece of propaganda crap American Sniper - check - They both say that Chris Kyle can't be considered a hero if he is a lying sack of Sh!t - check - and they both say that his widow owes me 1.8million dollars - now thats a big cheque haha

    Unfortunately I won't be letting her settle things outside of court and like most women who want something from The Body behind closed doors (he winks to the crowd) as... I have standards! and afterall I would describe her as... middle America (getting some serious heat from the crowd here) not like you surgically enhanced beauties here in California but i'll come to you a little bit later ladies, I gotta beat some fool first (throws the papers out of the ring)
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    #BH: I don't care if he won his case or not, that is one disgusting human being
    #JD: I just hope his opponent is able to shut his mouth for us... oh no
    #BH: Surely after the beating he took last week he shouldn't have been medically cleared to compete


    Jesse Ventura vs Seiji Sakaguchi

    Sakaguchi impresses to begin with thanks to his technical approach but after a few clubbing blows from Ventura it is clear that Sakaguchi is still feeling the effects from last week when Nakamura attacked him after their match. As a result it isn't long before what is essentially a clothesline from hell such is the ferocity he delivers it with that Ventura keeps him down for the 3 count

    Winner: Jesse Ventura

    Ventura celebrates flexing his muscles infront of a group of women in the front row as the crowd begin to boo. He gets turned down by a few of them then after one flips him off he grabs the mic and says "I wasn't talking to you lady, i'd rather take a ride on the titanic than get with you afterall that thing only went down on 1500 people"

    Then after being heard to exclaim ill take this one he tries to lift a girl over the railing only for a scuffle to break out as she also turns him down but he doesent take it well and tries to force her to come with him. This all stops though as The California crowd erupt as “Bad Reputation” by Joan Jett & The Blackhearts blasts out and Ronda Rousey! appears on the ramp way.
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    She orders him to release the girl emphasizing that she said no. Ventura obliges but mostly cos his attention is now drawn to the 27 years old California native he walks around to face her at the other end of the ramp and says "it's okay baby you can have "The Body" all to yourself tonight". Rousey just shakes her head and charges down the ramp and with what almost looks like a spear takes him down and then immediately starts laying into him with rights and lefts. Ventura was almost in too much shock to even try to stop her and after security pull her off him he just backs away from her and up the ramp to the back. The crowd are loving it though and chant Rouseys name.

    #BH: Thats my kind of woman!
    #JD: Wow "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey just showed up on BWA Raw
    #BH: and you know what, I've a feeling that won't be the last we will see of her


    Looking forward to the upcoming PPV the announcers then show a graphic of the now official first match ups made for BWA WrestlePalooza V where The Shiek & Abdullah The Butcher will take on The Brisco brothers for the BWA tag team titles and Antonio Inioki will face Vader. They then announce that the next match will see the BWA debut of The Shiek as he will take on the third member of the Aces of the Universe and the BWA World Heavyweight champion.
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    Todd Pettengill interviews BWA world champion Hiroshi Tanahashi and asks him if he has any comments about what has been happening to his friend Antonio Inoki and the other members of the Aces of The Universe

    Tanahashi: "A coward is someone who attacks under a cover of darkness. Someone who will not go face to face with their adversary. I believe Jerry Lawler is a coward. He fears Antonio Inoki and he fears anyone associated with him. He thinks they will take his job away from him and send him to the BWA retirement home known as the WECWF. Perhaps I shouldn't speak up as so far Lawler has not targeted me and my world title but you disrespect one Ace of the Universe you disrespect us all so Lawler you better be very careful" Pettengill tries to push him on what he means by that but Tanahashi says he has a match to prepare for and that the time for talk has passed.

    The Sheik vs Hiroshi Tanahashi

    Unfortunately for the fans in attendance this one dos not get a chance to develop into a proper match as 5mins in Abdullah The Butcher who is in The Sheiks corner takes his fork out once more and stabs it into the foot of Tanahashi in the ring. The match is immediately thrown out as a result.

    Winner via DQ Tanahashi
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    Misawa & Kobashi immediately come running down the aisle and all four men brawl for a few minutes until eventually the Japanese superstars allow the dasterdly duo to get away so they can go check on Tanahashi who is in ring recieving medical attention.

    #BH: I knew those 2 couldn't be trusted
    #JD: Jesus yeah who carries a fork around with them... well except me so I can always enjoy my 7/11 super salad on the go
    #BH: cmon dude nobody is interested in your sponsors, I just hope the champ is ok, you never know what you could catch from something Abdullah stashes in his shorts
    #JD: well I bet they are interested in the goings on 1km down the road from us today where the UFCs press conference is almost finished
    #BH: good point lets get the latest news from there

    Back to the just finishing UFC press conference for a recap of the 2nd hours news
    the highlights included that:
    * As part of the UFC BWA cross promotion a number of UFC competitors will fight at Wrestlepalooza V
    * The Venue for Wrestlepalooza V is announced as The Tokyo Dome, apparently (they didn't know Lawler had already announced it earlier on Raw) the UFC head honcho had tried for Vegas
    * UFC legend Dan "The Beast Severn" is announced as one of these competitors
    * The First officially signed cross promotional bout is announced as Ronda Rousey vs Jesse Ventura!

    We then go live to the press conference which has almost finished. They are just about done answering questions about the controversial issue of Rousey fighting a man when out of nowhere Shinsuke Nakamura jumps up onto the table they are all sat behind runs along it and connects with a Boma Ye Knee strike to Punks skull! The international media go crazy and there are constant camera flashes as chaos ensues with a mass of humanity converging keeping Nakamura from further attacking Punk. In fact the cameraman covering the event for the BWA is knocked over and the feed is cut so we return to the rather shocked looking team of announcers.
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    #BH: Holy Sh!t what is going on
    #JD: I really can't believe it! What was he even doing there
    #BH: you know Nakamura, he always has to insert himself into the headlines, and that really is big news
    #JD: very rue but im afraid we will have to leave that discussion for the post show as now it's main event time!

    Tonight's main event
    Samoa Joe vs Mil Mascaras

    The announcers cannot stop talking about how Joe is undefeated for the past 18 months straight while he was in TNA and RCW but now the hottest free agent in all of Pro Wrestling has signed for the BWA ahead of all the other suitors. He is in there against a bonafide legend though and things don't go all his way in one hell of a hard hitting contest. For such a big man Joe goes at one hell of a pace and it is when he performs a Suicide dive transitioned into a elbow smash to the outside on his opponent that everyone sits up and takes notice.

    It's also at this point that Kenta Kobashi comes out to the rampway to watch this bout. Still on the outside Joe 100% takes the initiative in the match by delivering a sick release German suplex that send Mascaras head first into the ring apron. Mil looks out of it as Joe rolls him into the ring but the assault continues with multiple suplexes including Dragon and Belly to Belly suplexes. Eventually a muscle Buster results in a very decisive victory.

    Winner: Samoa Joe
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    As we go off air we see Joe and Kobashi stare down each other while Joe smiles a sinister smile and makes a belt gesture around his waist

    JD: Whats Joe doing Kobashi no longer has a belt
    BH: maybe thats the point he is making or maybe he is here for Kobashi's stablemate Hiroshi Tanahashi's World Heavyweight title!
    JD: gawd damn I can't wait till next week to find this and a whole lot more out

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    BWA 2015 Roster
    CM Punk
    Hiroshi Tanahashi
    Shinsuke Nakamura
    Kenta Kobashi
    Mitsuharu Misawa
    Samoa Joe
    Big Van Vader
    Jerry "The King" Lawler
    Jesse "The Body" Ventura
    Dan "The Beast" Severn
    "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey
    The Sheik
    Abdullah The Butcher
    Jack Brisco
    Gerry Brisco
    Pat Patterson
    Georgeous George
    Antonio Inoki
    Seiji Sakguchi
    Mil Mascaras


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    We need a nice clear cut win next week to save you some headaches.
    Week 7 who do you prefer The Rock vs Michelle Mc Cool. :D

    McCool will win and it will be blamed on Taker politicing and influencing the mods :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


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    Welcome to BWA Raw!
    Live from Chicago

    The show opens with Jerry "The King" Lawler standing in the middle of the ring, at his feet is a brown sack.
    Lawler: ""Last monday night was a big night here in the BWA, the first matches for Wrestlepalooza V were announced, The undefeated submission machine Samoa Joe mad his debut, The Wrestling Observer's Best Box Office Draw Rhonda Rousey was here on Raw and The BWA signed a massive cross promotional deal with the UFC!"
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    The Chicago crowd start chanting "CM Punk, CM Punk.."

    Lawler: "Ahh yes the elephant in the room, CM Punk... Last week a BWA superstar attacked the non BWA Punk and almost put our UFC deal in doubt (The crowd booo). This man thinks of himself as being some sort of god, he thinks he can do what he likes and get away with doing whatever he likes but oh no not in my house! (The crowd cheer)

    I had a lot of things suggested to me for how to handle Mr Nakamura but i've settled on a three pronged approach. First thing is that he will see action later tonight against a man who has a point to prove, the second thing well thats a little surprise I have in store for him after that match and trust me Chicago you will love it but for now I want to concentrate on the final thing I will do to him and that is strip him of the BWA Hardcore title! This should come as no surprise to anyone who watched last weeks show but honestly this has been a long time coming.

    Last year at BWA Judgement day Terry Funk and Bruiser Brody fought him for this belt and since then similar greats have desired the belt and yet the champion has always treated the belt as below him. Even back during his days as a member of the Aces of the Universe, The King of Strong Style always looked down on this belt (he holds up the brown sack). He thought that the number one promotion in the worlds secondary title should not be a hardcore title and... as much as I hate to say this... I honestly agree with the man. Which is why I want to introduce to you the new belt that will replace the hardcore title... The BWA Intercontinental championship!
    he reveals this belt from within the bag
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    And who you ask will be able to see to it that this championship is treated as the prestigious title that it is, well how about a man that says it represents more prestige than the world championship... Pat Patterson!

    Patterson comes out and actually looks to be getting a little emotional looking at the Inter-continental title, no doubt the great ovation he got from the audience here in Chicago helped too. He goes to thank Lawler for once again allowing him to wear the IC title with pride but Lawler has to stop him there apologizing if he gave him the wrong idea and saying that Patterson is actually one of two men who will compete at WrestlePalooza V for the honor of wearing that championship belt. The other man Lawler says will be none other than the legendary...Gorgeous George!

    Patterson looks stunned as his Wrestlepalooza opponent makes his way out to the ring. However when he arrives in the ring Patterson actually looks happy and taking the microphone addresses George and everyone in attendance. He says how he always looked up to Gorgeous George and he was inspired by him as a young wrestler. Everything he did left a young impressionable Patterson in awe from the resplendent capes he wore to his ring entrance which was a bonified spectacle. Patterson said the bravado and showmanship he showed was unheard of at the time and he couldn't help but laugh at how he antagonized the fans. Pat finishes up by saying that it will be a true honor to go toe to toe with him at Wrestlepalooza and then reaches out to shake his PPV opponents hand.

    George looks at him in disgust before swatting away his hand and saying, "god you really are one hell of a fag!"

    Patterson jaw dropped. They say never meet your hero and well it just got worse and worse the more George spoke, he called Pat "gods abomination" and said that he will happily smack some sense into him as he takes the Intercontinental title. Patterson looked like he was about to lose his cool but Gorgeous George did not relent and mocks Pat in front of the sold out crowd by asking what does one call a gay french canadian (just like Pat) bread... a A f*guette!
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    thats it Pat snaps and the two begin to brawl around the ring. Lawler simply slides out of the ring and heads to the back as the fighting intensifies but it is eventually broken up by the as ever busy BWA security team.

    #JD: Before the show started Lawler told me he wanted to try and top last week here tonight and I was wondering how that was possible, but I must say that was one hell of a start.
    #BH: that was great but i've already heard enough yakity yak and I wanna see some wrestling already... someone tell them to start the first match!


    Match 1: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Jerry Brisco w/ Jack Brisco

    The champ is in action and gets a great reaction as he comes out to face the younger Brisco brother who has been impressing in 1 on 1matches recently. He almost gets the win too when he locks in the figure four leg lock early on and Tanahashi struggles to get to the ropes. The champion proves his worth though as he slowly gets on top in this match then after a Sling Blade takedown he goes up top and hits his High Fly Flow Frog splash for the win.

    Winner: Tanahashi

    After the match Jack Brisco consoles his brother before the champ comes over and shakes his hand. The announcers talk about how these men are true class acts who define the word honor.
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    Mitsuharu Misawa barges into the GMs office and confronts Jerry Lawler saying he will go over his head as Lawler didn't answer any of their questions about the attacks on Inoki, Samoa Joe's constant interference and why they won't be getting another tag title shot during his long ass Raw intro. Lawler though is dismissive and tells Misawa to get out to the ring cos he has a match starting next.

    Mitsuharu Misawa and Kenta Kobashi vs Abdullah The Butcher, The Sheik & Big Van Vader

    The frustration is clear to see on Misawa & Kobashi's faces as this match is announced as a handicap match and the combatants announced. Even with a man advantage their opponents can't be trusted to play fair though and they don't. from eye pokes to low blows they try it all but things really break down when despite it all Misawa and Kobashi actually start to get on top in the match. No way they are having that so they have to stoop lower and much to the amazement of the crowd The Shiek actually throws a fireball at Misawa. The announcers note that he has actually done this many times before in matches but still its a shocking first in the BWA and when the ref sees it he immediately calls for a disqualification.

    Winner via Fireball related DQ Misawa & Kobashi
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    Although the rules were not exactly being followed at least in the confines of a match it was usually 1on1 in the ring. Once it was over a 3 on 2 assault started and it really was too much for them that is until Antonio Inoki came charging down the ramp and joined the action. Unfortunately for him by the time he arrived on the scene his compatriots had already sustained quite a beating and he seemed to join a losing fight and Vader in particular took advantage to target him. Moments later though the cavalry arrived in the form of the champ, Hiroshi Tanahashi. The heels quickly exited the ring and scattered while the new Aces of the Universe were united in the ring and after being helped to their feet all 4 stood tall.
    Antonio Inoki: Lawler, Lawler! listen to me Lawler! these 3 men by my side are the most honorable and respectful men I have ever met. You have sent people to interfere in their matches and attack them, you put them in handicap matches and you refused them the opportunity to have a fair fight and yet they show you respect. They ask for an explanation, when most would lay you out! Thing is there is a reason they call me a crazy ol b*stard, cos if I think your a son of a b!tch, i'll call you a son of a b!tch and Lawler... your a son of a bitch!

    One thing i'll give you credit for though Jerry, you were right I was planning on investing in the BWA and I did plan on getting rid of you. In fact I told the board as much this past week. you will be happy to hear they told me that they were not going to fire you because as they put it we settle our business in the ring here in the BWA. Thats why at Wrestlepalooza you will have a match against the man I want to replace you with and your job will be on the line! (big cheer from the crowd and smiles all round from The Aces of The Universe) oh and that person is...Mitsuharu Misawa!
    Misawa looks shocked but after a few seconds when the idea has sank in he looks very pleased at the idea
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    ----commercial break
    Did you know the BWA has sold out more arenas this year than both WECWF and MNG combined!

    Jerry Lawler is clearly agitated after Inoki's announcement so when Jack Brisco comes up to him airing his concerns that The Briscos Wrestlepalooza V match against Abdullah The Butcher and The Sheik might end in DQ given their usual antics and saying that he would still prefer to give Misawa and Kobashi another match it's no surprise that he doesn't respond in the nicest of manner.

    "Incase you weren't paying attention Misawa already has a match at the PPV against me for gods sake and as far as Kobashi is concerned I had to promise him to Samoa Joe to get him to sign for the BWA so your not getting out of fighting Abdullah and Sheiky and as far as you not wanting your match to end in disqualification... it's now a no DQ match"

    Brisco tries to say that isn't what he wanted but the GMs door just gets slammed in his face
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    Jesse Ventura vs Local MMA fighter

    Ventura says that he handpicked this local young fighter due to his reputation as a real tough nut to crack and yet it isn't long until he does just that crack him over the head several times that is.The mixed martial artist puts up a good fight and even takes the body down once but Ventura powers out of the hold he subsequently found himself in and uses his superior strength in the end to make the MMA fighter tap out to his inverted Bearhug.

    Winner: Ventura via pinfall
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    Ventura: I speak my mind. If it offends some people, well, there's not much I can do about that. But I'm going to be honest. I'm going to continue to speak my mind, and that's who I am. A man who won't fight a woman, why do I need to after all? I just proved I can beat an MMA fighter and he was a man. Men are bigger, men are stronger, men are simply more of a threat and thats science talking not me...Now im not saying woman don't make good soldiers afterall they can bleed for a week and not die ha. But unlike women in the military what goes on between these ropes is not a joke so Ronda sorry to disappoint you but your not going to get your hands on the body at Wrestlepalooza V, maybe you should head on down to that all womens fed i'm sure you will find a more suitable opponent there!

    Suddenly and to a great ovation Ronda Rousey appears on the titantron the message she has is a simple one
    it's booked, your fighting and your going to get your ass kicked by a girl that is if you have the cohones to show up.
    this video then immediately plays

    We see Shinsuke Nakamura and Seiji Sakaguchi backstage. Sakaguchi is warming up for his match but Nakamura is the one the camera focuses on. He is staring at an old framed picture of himself as part of The Aces of The Universe. Suddenly he bursts into hysterical laughter which last for almost ten eerie seconds until he smashes the frame on the floor and serious as anything turns to look at Sakaguchi and starts screaming at him "私を納得させるには、これに値する, Show me! Convince me you deserve this!"

    Samoa Joe vs Seiji Sakaguchi

    It looks like Nakamura must have really psyched Sakaguchi up as he shows no fear of the undefeated Samoa Joe in this bout. he delivers several huge chops the affects of which are clearly visible on Joe's chest, a huge atomic drop and a series of big kicks but unfortunately Samoa Joe still has more in the tank and a running Lariat to Sakaguchi steals the momentum for him. What followers is a series of submissions from a single leg Boston crab to a STF and then a crossface which eventually results in the tapout victory.

    Winner:Samoa joe
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    After the match joe grabs Sakaguchi and German suplexes him right through the ropes and out of the ring. He then takes a microphone and addresses the BWA universe
    Joe: I could have joined any promotion in the world. I was the ROH champion, I went to TNA and went undefeated for 18 months , I went to RCW and kept my undefeated streak going as I took their world title and proved I was the best there. Only one man has defeated me in the past few years and that man is Kenta Kobashi! so why the BWA? why come here? one simple thing... Revenge!

    I want to prove im the best in the world and yes there are many promotions with world championships but Jerry Lawler and the BWA offered me what nobody else in WECWF, USCW or any other promotion could offer me and that is Kenta Kobashi in a No.1 contender match! So the match you have all wanted, Joe vs Kobashi 2 is on! and Kobashi I am going to destroy you, then if he still has it I am going to take your friend Hiroshi Tanahashi's BWA title. (Joe then lets out a visceral cry Brock Lesnar would be proud of) Arrrgggh!

    JD: Wow blockbuster right there, I know a lot of people don't like Lawler but he booked one hell of a match for Wrestlepalooza!
    BH: I gotta agree JD and I am just getting news that we will have the official contract signing for Joe vs Kobashi 2 right here on Raw next week!
    JD: Man I can't wait, those two in the ring together, a little taste of Wrestlepalooza, that's don't miss right there
    BH: It sure is, but so is this next bout, Mil Mascaras has been saying to anyone who will listen he has a lot to prove after loosing his WHC title shot vs Tanahashi 2 weeks ago and then again in last weeks main event against vs the debuting Samoa Joe
    JD: Well he is getting his chance right now against the man who has been the talk of the town this past week Shinsuke Nakamura


    Main event bout
    Shinsuke Nakamura vs Mil Mascaras

    Seiji Sakaguchi is at ringside like a cheerleader for Nakamura despite not being afforded the same courtesy earlier. He watches on as Mascaras throws everything in his arsenal at the crazed King of Strong style from surfboard submissions to diving crossbodies but he just can't put him away. It's clear to see that the frustration is beginning to build for Mascaras who has struggled in recent weeks and when Sakaguchi gets involved involved breaking up a pin attempt by putting Nakamuras foot on the bottom rope the masked wrestler loses it and preforms a suicide dives to the outside taking
    him out but also hurting himself.

    When Mascaras was finally able to get back to his feet Nakamura delivers a variation on his Boma Ya Knee strike where he runs along the edge of the ring apron before jumping off it and striking his opponents skull. Mascaras drops, lifeless, like a sack of potatoes. Sakaguchi rolls Mascaras back into the ring while Nakamura starts screaming something in Japanese before he then re-enters the ring and as if it is neccesary (Mascaras does not look like he would kick out anyway) delivers a Death Valley Driver before making the pinfall.

    Winner: Shinsuke Nakamura
    Nakamura takes a microphone and while pacing around the ring manically cuts a promo on CM Punk. He calls him a chicken and says even a women from UFC (Rousey) who wasn't even challenged answered the call and stepped up but he spits in Punks face and rams his knee into skull and yet there is no sign of Punk. He claims Punk was afraid to bring his wife with him when he attended BWA Raw 2 weeks ago in case she saw what a real man looked like afterall he says everyone remembers what it was like when she went through developmental in the WWE or should he say developmental went through her he wonders. He then says unlike Ronda Rousey Punk is the real B!tch in the UFC while he... he is an immortal (he then poses saluting the heavens as shown)
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    Just then CM Punk appears from out of the chi-town crowd (who go wild) and enters the ring behind him. Sakaguchi spotting this tries to intercept him but Punk isn't alone as Dan Severn also appears from the crowd and chokes him out. This leaves Nakamura alone in the ring and susceptible for a much deserved GTS which punk delivers.

    Having gone through a grueling main event prior to the GTS medical personal immediately whisk Nakamura away as BWA security keep Punk in the ring where he is now joined and flanked by not only Dan "The Beast" Severn but also by "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey
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    Punk grabs a mic and eventually when the "CM Punk" chants die down a little bit speaks

    "I thought I would never set foot in a wrestling ring again. I thought I was done with it for good. Even when the UFC signed a cross promotional deal with the premier brand in pro wrestling I wasn't interested. However like with countless other great wrestlers who thought the same thing in the past, a quote from the godfather sums it up best... no not that Godfather..."
    "just when i thought I was out they pull me back in"
    Not sure if it's Pacino or Silvio from the Sopranos but Punks impression goes down a storm with the Chicago crowd

    "Spit in my face, come to a UFC arena and attack me and come to my hometown of Chicago and call me a chicken no a bitch... yep you got my attention Nakamura, but you see haters like you are my favourite, i've built an empire with the bricks they've thrown at me so keep on hating brother. I'll grant you your wish and in 2 weeks at Wrestlepalooza you will get to face off with the straight edge savior but I will further establish my legacy by doing so because oh yes.. I will beat you but... not just you! because you see I'm not returning to a wrestling ring if it isn't in the main event so sorry Jerry (Lawler) I know you wanted to announce it next week but in front of my people here in Chicago im announcing the main event of BWA Wrestlepalooza V live from the Tokyo Dome will be CM Punk vs Shinsuke Nakamura... vs Hiroshi Tanahashi for the World Heavyweight Championship!"
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    BWA 2015 Roster
    CM Punk
    Hiroshi Tanahashi
    Shinsuke Nakamura
    Kenta Kobashi
    Mitsuharu Misawa
    Samoa Joe
    Big Van Vader
    Jerry "The King" Lawler
    Jesse "The Body" Ventura
    Dan "The Beast" Severn
    "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey
    The Sheik
    Abdullah The Butcher
    Jack Brisco
    Gerry Brisco
    Pat Patterson
    Gorgeous George
    Antonio Inoki
    Seiji Sakaguchi
    Mil Mascaras


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,734 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I've gotta go with HHH. I like Cena, I like the guy a lot. But in terms of overall strengths, I gotta give it to HHH.

    Great, funny face.
    Better heel.
    2000. HHH vs Mick Foley. HHH vs The Rock. HHH vs Stone Cold. He owned that year


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    I disagree. Cena had some great matches in 2007, including against Michaels, Umaga, Lashley, Orton, etc... (if i remember rightly). But in no way does that compare to the year Hunter had in 2000.
    That's not a knock on Cena at all though- it's just 2000 was a ridiculous 12 months for Triple H, he was the complete package during that time.
    He had outstanding televised matches with Bob Holly, Taka, Jericho, The Rock, Angle, Foley, Rikishi, Benoit, Austin and probably others I've forgotten. He was part of some incredible angles, during the WWE's hottest TV ratings, his promo work was impeccable, and his character was a breath of fresh air. And it was even more spectacular, because compared to say May 99- he had improved massively (even after becoming the "Game" in 99, some of his stuff was incredibly dull).

    I just don't think Cena's had the sort of run that can compare, even though in 2007 he showed the ability to work great matches.

    Nail SQUARELY on the head. I LOVED Cena in 2007 more than most and sang his praises from the rooftops. But HHH in 2000 was out of this world good in terms of rdelivering in every way possible. In fact, I'm struggling to think of anyone in the history of WWE who had a better 12 months to be honest in any era. Maybe Shawn in his prime?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    I disagree. Cena had some great matches in 2007, including against Michaels, Umaga, Lashley, Orton, etc... (if i remember rightly). But in no way does that compare to the year Hunter had in 2000.
    That's not a knock on Cena at all though- it's just 2000 was a ridiculous 12 months for Triple H, he was the complete package during that time. Then along came Kennedy....
    He had outstanding televised matches with Bob Holly, Taka, Jericho, The Rock, Angle, Foley, Rikishi, Benoit, Austin and probably others I've forgotten. He was part of some incredible angles, during the WWE's hottest TV ratings, his promo work was impeccable, and his character was a breath of fresh air. And it was even more spectacular, because compared to say May 99- he had improved massively (even after becoming the "Game" in 99, some of his stuff was incredibly dull).

    I just don't think Cena's had the sort of run that can compare, even though in 2007 he showed the ability to work great matches.


    Cena's ring work matched up to Hunters in my opinion that year. He got a four star match out of an ordinary Lashley and even got two decent matches out of Khali. He also had a tremendous Raw match with HBK which will go down as one of the best Raw matches of this decade.
    Then you look at the rest of his PPV work, his LMS match with Umanga was the best LMS match ever. He made Orton look more creditable in his brief feud than Hunter had ever done.
    He headlined the biggest drawing Mania of all time and people were predicting another wrestling boom. Then along came Benoit and ruined that. :(
    His promo work while it may not impress the older fans worked wonderfully with Vince's target audience at the time, the children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    orestes wrote: »
    McCool will win and it will be blamed on Taker politicing and influencing the mods :pac:

    The mental image of Taker tapping his fists staring at our mods is a wonderful one. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    HHH. Cena has never matched what Hunter did in 2000 and before then Hunter stepped out of HBK's shadow by leading a much much much improved D-X. ATM I prefer to see Cena but when Hunter wasn't stale he was great


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Cena's ring work matched up to Hunters in my opinion that year. He got a four star match out of an ordinary Lashley and even got two decent matches out of Khali. He also had a tremendous Raw match with HBK which will go down as one of the best Raw matches of this decade.
    Then you look at the rest of his PPV work, his LMS match with Umanga was the best LMS match ever. He made Orton look more creditable in his brief feud than Hunter had ever done.
    He headlined the biggest drawing Mania of all time and people were predicting another wrestling boom. Then along came Benoit and ruined that. :(
    His promo work while it may not impress the older fans worked wonderfully with Vince's target audience at the time, the children.
    I agree with every bit of this bar the first sentence. Its just that HHH's 2000 was that bit better (purely IMO of course.) Also isn't Trump/McMahon credited with pushing that Mania's buyrate into the stratosphere, rather than Cena?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭currythis


    Triple H.
    He is a great wrestler,good as a face,great as a heel and is brilliant on the mic.

    I cant stand John Cena,he's never had a good match in my opinon,he's been carried to good matches by guys like HHH,HBK,Umaga,Edge etc..and his promo's are just awful catchphrases,poor attempts at humour and his annoying low tone serious promo voice.

    He has also not improved as a wrestler despite working with some of the best workers in the business over the past few years,his punches are ridiculously bad and my five year old sister could apply a more convincing looking stfu.The only impressive things about him are his physique and strength.

    Triple H is his superior by a country mile!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    flahavaj wrote: »
    I agree with every bit of this bar the first sentence. Its just that HHH's 2000 was that bit better (purely IMO of course.) Also isn't Trump/McMahon credited with pushing that Mania's buyrate into the stratosphere, rather than Cena?

    Fair enough, I do think Cena was better myself, but even the strongest Hunter hater would have to admit that Hunter as Michael said earlier was superb that year. Judging by the thread I think your opinion is the majority anyways. :P

    On the buyrates thing, I do think Trump helped but you must remember it was Lashley v Umaga wrestling at the end of the day. :D
    but I still think Cena v Michaels was very enticing as the build had been excellent. Taker v Tista probably helped it as well as a lot of people bar the so called smarks wanted to see that one. Cena was insanely popular at the time, and its interesting that the following years buy rates have slipped as he has been stuck in triple threats which belong at Backlash rather than Mania. :(

    This post has to many smileys as well. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Cena's ring work matched up to Hunters in my opinion that year. He got a four star match out of an ordinary Lashley and even got two decent matches out of Khali. He also had a tremendous Raw match with HBK which will go down as one of the best Raw matches of this decade.
    Then you look at the rest of his PPV work, his LMS match with Umanga was the best LMS match ever. He made Orton look more creditable in his brief feud than Hunter had ever done.
    He headlined the biggest drawing Mania of all time and people were predicting another wrestling boom. Then along came Benoit and ruined that. :(
    His promo work while it may not impress the older fans worked wonderfully with Vince's target audience at the time, the children.

    Good post. I'd forgotten about Khali. Cena worked MIRACLES with him during that brief feud.
    I Absolutely LOVED Cena's LMS match with Umaga, it was superb, as was that Raw bout with HBK. I didn't like the Orton/Cena feud though, i thought it was hotshotted really badly, though saying that, they had a great match at Summerslam. From what I recall, the rematches weren't as impressive. And then didn't Cena spend the last quarter of the year on the sidelines? But I'll say it again- I genuinely thought he had a terrific year, up there and comparable with any babyface of the OVW generation.

    But.......

    Yes, Cena does impress the youngsters watching, but then again, so does HHH. In 2007, young fans may have been cheering Cena's promos, but they were doing the same for Triple H too. But while Hunter has polarized the older fans by being on top for far, far too long, Cena has polarized the same crowd simply because they don't buy his act. And I wouldn't overly credit Cena for the 2007 buyrate. Sadly, Trump and McMahon are mainly responsible for that :( (in addition to what I've noticed in recent years, the value of the Wrestlamania brand name).

    I still don't agree that Cena's ring work in 2007 was quite as good as HHH's in 2000.
    Don't forget, in 2000, Triple H also had an astonishing LMS match (with Chris Jericho), that many would argue was a better interpretation of the gimmick (i wouldn't personally, they're both great like). He also did that amazing swerve angle were he dropped/took back the title from Y2J.
    Aside from that, his PPV record was impeccable. Taking his year from the start...
    He had an outstanding streetfight and Hell in a Cell against Foley on PPV. On TV leading up to this, he also took part in a superb tag match that involved a crazy brawl that lead to "that" angle. His promo and storyline work in those angles was astonishing. He also did some decent comedy while Mick was fired.
    Wrestlemania was a misfire- but that was due to the insistence of Vince in booking his family as the centrepiece. HHH held that match together, and for what it's worth, although it was overlong, I think he looked great in it, and had some heated exchanges with the Rock.
    The build-up to Backlash was excellent, as was the match (which should have headlined Mania). He also worked through a fractured arm i believe? for the next couple of weeks. During April and May ,this was also when he took part in many of those memorable angles against mid-carders.
    At Judgement Day, the Iron Man match against the Rock, was put together largely by Triple H. It showed- the psychology of that match is wildly underrated, a fantastic match. The Rock was so sympathetic, and part of his greatness was having a villian of equal standing.
    Other high-points include the Steph/Angle storyline- great TV. And remember, at Summerslam he and The Rock had to put together the bulk of a half-hour bout on the fly, and it still turned out great. People also forget the great match he had with The Rock on Smackdown leading up to SS. In fact, he had a whole pile of matches on TV throughout that summer that are overlooked. The amount of times he and The Rock tangled was ridiculous, yet every single time, people were captivated.
    HHH's interaction with the commisioner at the time- Mick Foley, was also a weekly highlight of Raw.
    His singles matches with Angle and Benoit were fine- thought hurt by the booking, and the fact that he was working as a face. But on TV, week-in-week out, his tag efforts were fantastic. At one point he had a brilliant triple threat with Angle and Jericho leading up to No Mercy. He also tagged with The Rock in a bloody great match against Angle and Benoit.

    When he went heel again, it was business as usual- with a freaking great survivor series brawl against Stone Cold. His work leading up to this was again superb- the little subtle touches he added to his character made him truly feel evil when they finally met at the PPV.

    And then in December, at Armaggeddon, he was absolutely the glue that held that six man HIAC together. A great effort by everyone, but as in alot of multi-person matches, it was HHH putting the pieces in place.

    **** me. Gotta stop rambling....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Savage post michael.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Good post. I'd forgotten about Khali. Cena worked MIRACLES with him during that brief feud.
    I Absolutely LOVED Cena's LMS match with Umaga, it was superb, as was that Raw bout with HBK. I didn't like the Orton/Cena feud though, i thought it was hotshotted really badly, though saying that, they had a great match at Summerslam. From what I recall, the rematches weren't as impressive. And then didn't Cena spend the last quarter of the year on the sidelines? But I'll say it again- I genuinely thought he had a terrific year, up there and comparable with any babyface of the OVW generation.

    But.......

    Yes, Cena does impress the youngsters watching, but then again, so does HHH. In 2007, young fans may have been cheering Cena's promos, but they were doing the same for Triple H too. But while Hunter has polarized the older fans by being on top for far, far too long, Cena has polarized the same crowd simply because they don't buy his act. And I wouldn't overly credit Cena for the 2007 buyrate. Sadly, Trump and McMahon are mainly responsible for that :( (in addition to what I've noticed in recent years, the value of the Wrestlamania brand name).

    I still don't agree that Cena's ring work in 2007 was quite as good as HHH's in 2000.
    Don't forget, in 2000, Triple H also had an astonishing LMS match (with Chris Jericho), that many would argue was a better interpretation of the gimmick (i wouldn't personally, they're both great like). He also did that amazing swerve angle were he dropped/took back the title from Y2J.
    Aside from that, his PPV record was impeccable. Taking his year from the start...
    He had an outstanding streetfight and Hell in a Cell against Foley on PPV. On TV leading up to this, he also took part in a superb tag match that involved a crazy brawl that lead to "that" angle. His promo and storyline work in those angles was astonishing. He also did some decent comedy while Mick was fired.
    Wrestlemania was a misfire- but that was due to the insistence of Vince in booking his family as the centrepiece. HHH held that match together, and for what it's worth, although it was overlong, I think he looked great in it, and had some heated exchanges with the Rock.
    The build-up to Backlash was excellent, as was the match (which should have headlined Mania). He also worked through a fractured arm i believe? for the next couple of weeks. During April and May ,this was also when he took part in many of those memorable angles against mid-carders.
    At Judgement Day, the Iron Man match against the Rock, was put together largely by Triple H. It showed- the psychology of that match is wildly underrated, a fantastic match. The Rock was so sympathetic, and part of his greatness was having a villian of equal standing.
    Other high-points include the Steph/Angle storyline- great TV. And remember, at Summerslam he and The Rock had to put together the bulk of a half-hour bout on the fly, and it still turned out great. People also forget the great match he had with The Rock on Smackdown leading up to SS. In fact, he had a whole pile of matches on TV throughout that summer that are overlooked. The amount of times he and The Rock tangled was ridiculous, yet every single time, people were captivated.
    HHH's interaction with the commisioner at the time- Mick Foley, was also a weekly highlight of Raw.
    His singles matches with Angle and Benoit were fine- thought hurt by the booking, and the fact that he was working as a face. But on TV, week-in-week out, his tag efforts were fantastic. At one point he had a brilliant triple threat with Angle and Jericho leading up to No Mercy. He also tagged with The Rock in a bloody great match against Angle and Benoit.

    When he went heel again, it was business as usual- with a freaking great survivor series brawl against Stone Cold. His work leading up to this was again superb- the little subtle touches he added to his character made him truly feel evil when they finally met at the PPV.

    And then in December, at Armaggeddon, he was absolutely the glue that held that six man HIAC together. A great effort by everyone, but as in alot of multi-person matches, it was HHH putting the pieces in place.

    **** me. Gotta stop rambling....

    Great post.
    That Ironman match and the Backlash ones were amazing.
    The thing however about Hunter in 2000 while he was incredible, he never worked with workers as dire as Khali and Lashley. Khali is the man that Taker failed to get a good match out, the man who had to be moved to SD because he was to rubbish for Live TV. Lashley was dire as well. They were the definition of carry jobs. Hunter never had to work with such useless workers.

    We also should remember that Umaga had done little before the LMS match. Yes he had been been about for ages, but he was never in the main event, so he was still reasonably green at the time.

    You are been slightly harsh on the Orton angle as well, their match at ummerslam was amazing, that feud made Orton relevant again.
    The Backlash match with Hunter, Orton and Edge was also very underrated. Their was so many great angles in that and Cena was at the heart of them.
    He was also the perfect role model for the company when the Benoit story broke, he carried the company superbly in thos dark times.
    Overall though both were incredible years for both, so debating which was better is like the Pele/ Maradona debate.
    P.S Cena is a better rapper than Hunter. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,082 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Never been a big fan of Triple H, but have always enjoyed Cenas work (although his after-selling could use work).

    Cena was a very entertaining heel and made the switch to face very comfortably.

    His working of the crowd at ONS was brilliant too. He had them eating out of the palm of his hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I think a few things need to be said here.

    First off, Triple H is an atrocious babyface. His best work has clearly been as a heel where I would say he's been one of the greatest the company has had. I can't fathom how anyone can find him endearing in any shape or form as I think as a babyface he stinks with his lousy jokes. This is what pisses me off about wrestling fans. They will happily slam Cena for his stupid toilet humour (and I don't blame them for doing so) but they leave out the fact that HHH's stupid toilet humour is about ten times worse. Remember the woeful D-X skits in 2006? Hunter supposedly getting a BJ from Candace while Shawn was distracted springs to mind. I believe Cena is easily a better babyface. As a heel, I would say Hunter is better though Cena got over huge as a heel originally. I would thus argue Cena has more character depth.

    With regards to wrestling, completely agree Hunter was terrific in 2000 and I'd add the following two years after that. However, his career does not stop there and heralding him as a fantastic wrestler based on these years alone is a bit like praising The Simpsons for their great episodes and ignoring the sh*tty ones of recent years. What about 2003? Remember the crappy matches with Scott Steiner? Goldberg? Kevin Nash? He only managed glimpses of his quality in later years. Cena had a terrific year in 2007 and contrary to the baffling post of currythis, he HAS improved since his debut. To suggest he was carried for his great matches sums up the unfair treatment Cena receives. Did Khali carry him? Did Lashley carry him? :pac:

    Wrestling fans happily slam Cena as a poor wrestler highlighting particular moments and yet are very selective with a guy like Hunter only acknowledging his great periods and brushing aside his poorer moments. It's not a fair assessment. For what it's worth, I would give the edge to Hunter overall in terms of in-ring ability but to say Hunter is superior by a 'country mile' is laughable. He's no Shawn Michaels! I haven't been wowed by a match of his in several years, unlike with Cena.

    For me, Hunter's metamorphosis into SuperHunter in late 2002 also really takes away from the great things he accomplished. Think of how many PPVs, particularly Wrestlemanias, that have been spoiled by this man's ego. It's a crying shame. He turned me off wrestling and judging by the ratings I doubt I'm alone in that.

    Cena may have become stale but Cena follows orders whereas HHH issues them. He ought to take greater responsibility for the direction of his character than Cena.

    Ultimately I think Cena has WAY more charisma than Hunter and a greater respect for the business. I feel Hunter at his peak was a better wrestler. As far as I'm concerned though Hunter will never belong in the top bracket of wrestling icons. I think Cena, one day however, may well find himself spoken of in the same breath as the greatest stars of the business.

    Cena > Hunter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Hunter never had to work with such useless workers.

    We also should remember that Umaga had done little before the LMS match. Yes he had been been about for ages, but he was never in the main event, so he was still reasonably green at the time.

    You are been slightly harsh on the Orton angle as well, their match at Summerslam was amazing, that feud made Orton relevant again.


    P.S Cena is a better rapper than Hunter. :cool:

    True, Hunter probably did have a better calibre of worker than Cena. That said though, don't underestimate Umaga. The guy was far from green- he came on leaps and bounds while over in Japan.

    I don't think I'm really being harsh on the Cena/Orton feud. The feud was okay, if a little rushed, but I recall alot of people had no interest in it, after the insulting "match" they had at Unforgiven. Their Summerslam bout was immense though.

    Trips does a better Bruce Buffer Impression though!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Overall though both were incredible years for both, so debating which was better is like the Pele/ Maradona debate.

    true, but id wager most would consider 2000 a far superior year to 2007 in pro-wrestling and if you consider that both men were the top guys in those years id have to lean towards HHH here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    I think a few things need to be said here.

    First off, Triple H is an atrocious babyface

    I' m sorry but that is nonsense. The good D-X (aka any D-X with Hunter without HBK) were fantastic


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Bubs101 wrote: »
    I' m sorry but that is nonsense. The good D-X (aka any D-X with Hunter without HBK) were fantastic

    In fairness to MNG and I mean this in the nicest way possible, you must know by know not to expect him to be all that reasonable in any debate involving HHH.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭currythis


    Cena had a terrific year in 2007 and contrary to the baffling post of currythis, he HAS improved since his debut. To suggest he was carried for his great matches sums up the unfair treatment Cena receives. Did Khali carry him? Did Lashley carry him? :pac:

    Well I for one dont think he has improved at all in the last few years,everything he does in the ring is still robotic and monotonous and very underwhelming for a guy who has been main eventing for over 4 years.I mean if he gave a damn about his in ring performance he would at least rectify something as fundamental as his punches,which are ridiculous,and his STF which isnt all that hard to make look beleveable

    His matches with Khali were awful so Khali defo didnt carry him in those but his matches with Bobby were decent I'd say Lashley definitely did!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    currythis wrote: »
    Well I for one dont think he has improved at all in the last few years,everything he does in the ring is still robotic and monotonous and very underwhelming for a guy who has been main eventing for over 4 years.I mean if he gave a damn about his in ring performance he would at least rectify something as fundamental as his punches,which are ridiculous,and his STF which isnt all that hard to make look beleveable

    His matches with Khali were awful so Khali defo didnt carry him in those but his matches with Bobby were decent I'd say Lashley definitely did!

    You honestly think Lashley carried Cena? Name a few other really good matches that Lashley had in that case? If he carried Cena and if Cena is as bad as your damning indictment of his skills would suggest he is, I'm sure Lashley has a decent resume of matches against better workers?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Who do I Prefer?

    At the moment Cena.

    Overall Hunter.

    It is hard to decide who to vote for. Another tough selection be Ger C (Well Done).

    Over careers, if the question was who was better? then HHH would get my vote.

    I am going to go for Cena in the votes for who do I prefer. I enjoy Cena 95% of the time. I don't care if he is in the main event or wrestling a giant he still has the ability to make it entertaining. Recently (Despite all his achievements) HHH is not so enjoyable to watch. On that basis I have to go for Cena as I would prefer him to be on my TV Screen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    Its really a tough choice but Cena wins in the end for me


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭Sunset V


    Tip of the cap again. All I can really say is...... Jaysus

    The Game for me though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    flahavaj wrote: »
    In fairness to MNG and I mean this in the nicest way possible, you must know by know not to expect him to be all that reasonable in any debate involving HHH.:pac:

    To be fair I think his post was the perfect counter to Michael etcs (equally excellent post btw).......... It was well balanced as a debate should be. It is hard to disagree with any of it. I certainly agree that HHH is a horrible babyface. Always seems to be too forced. Heel is a far more natural position for him.

    Just for the record, I went for HHH, as I dislike him less. I have no time for either man at the moment. I enjoyed HHH in the late 90s early 2000s as one of the all time great heels so that is why I went for him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Ah yeah, MNG's was awesome too, I'm just laughing at its inevitability!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Bubs101 wrote: »
    I' m sorry but that is nonsense. The good D-X (aka any D-X with Hunter without HBK) were fantastic

    I'm surprised you think that. I really liked him in D-X as a heel but as a babyface I think he was so weak. To be honest I think his personality just doesn't suit the babyface role. He's not believable as a nice guy. I'd compare him to Lesnar in that respect. I thought Brock was really poor in this role. As a heel however, he was one of the nastiest I can recall.
    flahavaj wrote:
    In fairness to MNG and I mean this in the nicest way possible, you must know by know not to expect him to be all that reasonable in any debate involving HHH.:pac:

    I can understand why people might think I'd be impartial seeing as I've been a vocal critic of his in recent years, but likewise I think I've always given plenty of credit for his early stuff, particularly up to around late '02. I just feel the pros and the cons have to be included and let's face it this guy has plenty of cons!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    I'm surprised you think that. I really liked him in D-X as a heel but as a babyface I think he was so weak. To be honest I think his personality just doesn't suit the babyface role. He's not believable as a nice guy. I'd compare him to Lesnar in that respect. I thought Brock was really poor in this role. As a heel however, he was one of the nastiest I can recall.

    He got X-Pac over as a face.

    /end thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Bubs101 wrote: »
    He got X-Pac over as a face.

    /end thread


    X-Pac back then was quite good though. He was charismatic and was one hell of a worker when not wasted bothered. Hunter helped but he was far from useless, Mr Pac.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    X-Pac back then was quite good though. He was charismatic and was one hell of a worker when not wasted bothered. Hunter helped but he was far from useless, Mr Pac.

    Just take a look at his stuff in TNA in 2005 against Styles, Lynn and Raven. Great stuff when he was motivated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Just take a look at his stuff in TNA in 2005 against Styles, Lynn and Raven. Great stuff when he was motivated.

    That Lynn match was very good actually. From the same PPV the AJ/Joe/Daniels 3 way. Unbreakable maybe?

    Then again Lynn/Waltmann was always awesome going right back to their days starting out on the indies together back in the early 90's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    flahavaj wrote: »
    That Lynn match was very good actually. From the same PPV the AJ/Joe/Daniels 3 way. Unbreakable maybe?

    Month before I think...*checks*...yup. It was a great match though as was his one the month before that against AJ.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    I love X-Pac (see draft) but most people despise him


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