Irish Airsoft Medical Corps

iamc

We have created our new thread due to no response to reopen our previous one.

The AIMC is a first and and combat medical team, being created for the perpose of real life simulation of combat medical teams, and also to provide real life first aid to airsofters if/when needed. Our senior staff is made up of professional medical personel, (EMT's, Paramedics etc.)
We are looking at people interested in joining our team.

All quieries please direct to:
office.iamc@gmail.com
eoghan.iamc@gmail.com

Please Visit: www.iamc.uuuq.com

ravydavygravy

I don't get this team - and I suspect that's why you got little response first time around.

I volunteer at first-aid for various bodies, mainly as a team medic for the Irish Cave Rescue, but also with other schemes such as the community first responder. I don't see how a similar group for airsoft could/would work - I have seen little need for first-aid at skirmishes, other than a few plasters or bandages. Also, surely most site operators have to have some level of first-aid cover as part of running the site.

So, maybe to clear this up and hopefully get you better responses:

1) Are you an airsoft team with some first aid, or a first-aid team that play some airsoft?
2) What role/service do you see yourselves providing?
3) Has anyone asked for this service?

EDIT: BTW - Don't get me wrong, I'm all for more widespread first aid training - I think I would understand if you described yourselves as an airsoft team with a seperate shared interest in first-aid, and future first-aid training. However, I don't believe the first aid part would be of much benefit to airsoft, you'd be better off applying your interest to other fields maybe? What do site operators think?

Dave

iamc

That’s fine. We are happy that people ask us to clarify rather than continuing not knowing who we are. We are primarily a group of Airsofters, however most members have medical backgrounds. Our idea is to provide "Simulation" (Military combat medical) to add realism to the airsoft experience, and also be 'able' to provide real medical aid if necessary. Our team have been warmly welcomed by both site owners and indeed the IAA Health and Safety dept. And yes several enquiries have been made to us in regards the use of us.

Lemming

iamc wrote: »

The AIMC is a first and and combat medical team, being created for the perpose of real life simulation of combat medical teams, and also to provide real life first aid to airsofters if/when needed.

iamc wrote: »

Our idea is to provide "Simulation" (Military combat medical) to add realism to the airsoft experience, and also be 'able' to provide real medical aid if necessary.

I'm confused here. You want to simulate combat medical practice AND also provide real-life first aid. The second option I can well appreciate, the first however I don't. How exactly do you intend to simulate combat medical procedure unless somebody is actually injured and requiring first aid treatment? Game-play tends to get halted whenever somebody gets injured (thankfully rare) until the the site and/or marshals have dealt with the injured person(s) in a manner that is satisfactory. To be perfectly honest, if I were injured the last thing I would want is to get laced by some f*ckwit with a heavy trigger finger whilst I'm injured because it's sitll "game on" so somebody else can play combat medic.

So again, I'm confused as to how you can talk about providing simulation whilst also treating people at the same time. The two are just not compatible unless people and sites are prepared to blithely continue playing knowing somebody in the vicinity is injured.

gerrowadat

To clarify a little, since many people have been asking us:

The IAA welcomes any new team that starts up and promotes responsible airsofting and good sportsmanship.

However, the IAMC does not represent the IAA or speak for it, or act with any more endorsement from us than any other team. We wish them good luck in their endeavours as with any team.

Dave
IAA Vice-Chair

iamc

To clarify the "Simulation" idea. It is not simulation using real injuries! When someone is hurt, the event is indeed stopped and the person is treated. The simulation idea, was brought to our attention by a site owner, who thought it would be a good idea to set up Combat Medical Simulation event, for example a mission is created to locate and extract 4 injured paratroopers, the teams move into hostile ground to search for and rescue the people. they are made up with injuries replicating true to life. They are then extracted treated and extracted. That is the idea of the Simulation. Not using real injured people. I hope this helps.

iceage

Lemming wrote: »

To be perfectly honest, if I were injured the last thing I would want is to get laced by some f*ckwit with a heavy trigger finger whilst I'm injured because it's sitll "game on" so somebody else can play combat medic..

ROFL. I was trying to think of somewhy to ask/state same feeling on the whole idea of said scenario. Nicely put Lemming. Post of the day.

Personally, if I was to injure myself at any kind of event not just Airsoft/paintball/gig/historical vehicle show, Call a bloody Anbulance please, I wouldn't have time to check and make sure that the guy trying to administer first aid to me is even qualified to do so.

iamc

Haha...Ok, the members who are providing first aid, are trained in not one, not two, but three levels of first aid and combat medicine. The senior staff are healthcare professionals. we have 2 Emergency Medical Technicians (Ambulance) one of which has experience working as a Paramedic in the US, 2 Ex student nurses and 1 Nurse. Our team do indeed have the experience there.

For any direct quieries please contact directly on [URL="mailto: office.iamc@gmail.com"]office.iamc@gmail.com[/URL]
Or visit our website at www.iamc.uuuq.com

OzCam

The main problem I see with this plan is in combining two things which are separate and different.

On the one hand, there's a team offering to simulate casualty treatment and extraction. There's nothing wrong with this idea in theory, and such exercises are done regularly in the real world. Paramedics and real-life Medics do this all the time.

This idea was discussed in depth on the Berget forum before B7. Some people think it's a good idea, some think it's silly. Either way, it can be done if everyone knows what's going on, everyone agrees to it, boundaries and safewords are agreed beforehand, and there's a clear way to stop the scenario in case of a real accident.

I think this kind of Live Action Role Play can be introduced into Irish airsoft in due course, but we're a long way away from that yet.

On the other hand, there's a team of airsofters, made up of people with first aid experience, offering to provide first aid cover at events. Again, this is a great idea - I think our level of cover at many events is woeful. We've been lucky so far, and airsoft is a very safe sport, but things can go bad very quickly and I don't think we appreciate this well enough. Some sites do, but the level of discussion on the web in general leaves a lot to be desired.

From what I've been able to find out so far, any team offering to provide first aid cover at an event will need their own insurance, in addition to having all certificates in date. Until that's done, no-one will touch them.

I'd love to see the IAMC getting insurance organised and turning up to as many events as possible. Especially the events in remote country areas. The more first aiders we have, the better. I'd also like to see us as a community, having a proper debate about LARP and deciding when and where to do it. The idea of someone simulating a casevac in the middle of a game is one that we are absolutely not ready for.

But the two things must be kept separate. Confusion causes delay, delay reduces the chances of a successful outcome.

boomer_ie

iamc wrote: »

Haha...Ok, the members who are providing first aid, are trained in not one, not two, but three levels of first aid and combat medicine. The senior staff are healthcare professionals. we have 2 Emergency Medical Technicians (Ambulance) one of which has experience working as a Paramedic in the US, 2 Ex student nurses and 1 Nurse. Our team do indeed have the experience there.

One thing that I am wondering is why the need to train as combat medics, and allied to that combat medicine is a whole different kettle of fish to treatment on the street.

Why would someone going to an Airsoft event and getting injured need a "Combat Medic" over a standard Emergency Medical Technician or Paramedic.

Oh and whats the difference between an Emergency Medical Technician (Ambulance) and an Emergency Medical Technician?

Eoghan Darcy

in relation to stopping gameplay, that is a must, depending on the seriousness of the injury. An ambulance will be called for if required. All of our members have some sort of extensive medical background. WE ARE NOT COWBOYS!! Our main interest is the safety of the casualty. We have conformation that a company is interested in insuring us, and we are just waiting for a quote.

Sgt Eoghan Darcy, IAMC Logistics Officer

Firekitten

Eoghan Darcy wrote: »

Sgt Eoghan Darcy, IAMC Logistics Officer

Oh DEAR....

hitman_

Eoghan Darcy wrote: »

in relation to stopping gameplay, that is a must, depending on the seriousness of the injury. An ambulance will be called for if required. All of our members have some sort of extensive medical background. WE ARE NOT COWBOYS!! Our main interest is the safety of the casualty. We have conformation that a company is interested in insuring us, and we are just waiting for a quote.

Sgt Eoghan Darcy, IAMC Logistics Officer

hmmm. this all seems kind of familiar ... can't quite put my finger on it yet.

Craigsy

boomer_ie wrote: »

Why would someone going to an Airsoft event and getting injured need a "Combat Medic" over a standard Emergency Medical Technician or Paramedic.

Yes, not to much need for a "combat medic" in airsoft i would have thought unless you're planning on getting shot with a live round

Lemming

iamc wrote: »

To clarify the "Simulation" idea. It is not simulation using real injuries! When someone is hurt, the event is indeed stopped and the person is treated. The simulation idea, was brought to our attention by a site owner, who thought it would be a good idea to set up Combat Medical Simulation event, for example a mission is created to locate and extract 4 injured paratroopers, the teams move into hostile ground to search for and rescue the people. they are made up with injuries replicating true to life. They are then extracted treated and extracted. That is the idea of the Simulation. Not using real injured people. I hope this helps.

Hmmm, ok, I'll defer to my own memory of casualty training scenarios with the Order of Malta here (admittedly many moons ago so I am well out of practice). These things take time to prepare. You need to get people willing to lie/sit/wait in specific positions for potentially extended duration to similate particular injuries/hazards.

Add all of the above into the fact that your average skirmish here moves far faster than locating, treatment, movement will allow in all probability unless as part of a large milsim event (e.g. 24 hour or something), and that only a very specific collection of people - i.e. iamc -will ever be allowed to take advantage of this scenario since you have to be on their team, and I really don't see that this has been well thought through at a practical level. A lot of effort for very little perceived benefit except to iamc themselves.

Edit: granted as part of a larg emilsim event a mission like this could be a lot of fun, but such events are not the rule unfortunately

Jimkil

I like the idea of a mission to extract injurt personal.
Surely this can be only a good thing, allowing these guys to get some training and practice. The tactics and game play would be quite interesting for all of us to learn. I don’t think it would be to hard to round up a group of willing volunteers to get involved.
Pm me if I can be of any help.

iamc

The huge benefit from the "Simulation" is that it provides training for our team, but also people will learn! They might just learn something small like, how to stop bleeding, or how to react to an accident or how to do CPR, all of these can come in handy if they were to come to use them in real life. People may even learn them subconciously and the skill may come to them when needed. We are providing important and much needed, FREE education. That is the biggest benefit from the Simulations.

Sod'o swords

So what you're doing is giving free Aid training, through the medium of Airsoft?

So you're not actually an airsoft team, but people who wish to teach people first aid, and choose airsoft as a 'market' as such, in which to find people, to teach.

Would that be correct?

iamc

No. We are an airsoft medical team. But during simulations, people will learn skills for free. We are not providing "Training" other than to our members, but we hope people will learn skills during simulations and have fun with the added relism.

By the way, is anyone heading into HRTA tonight who can give someone a lift from city centre?

Sod'o swords

Have you played airsoft?

Lemming

iamc wrote: »

No. We are an airsoft medical team. But during simulations, people will learn skills for free. We are not providing "Training" other than to our members, but we hope people will learn skills during simulations and have fun with the added relism.

Two things:

Firstly: people shouldn't be watching you since they should be "on mission"; i.e. making sure you don't get blatted by the opfor.

Secondly: how in the name of god do you think it's a good idea that people will "pick up" first aid indirectly from watching you since you are admittedly not teaching anyone but your own members. They may in fact pick it up not only wrong but not understand what it is, when/how to apply it and more importantly when NOT to? If somebody is watching you, they're not playing the game. And if they're playing the game they're not really watching you to see what it is you're doing.

One of the most important tenants of first aid: never make the patient's condition worse than it is already.


I'm sorry if this is coming across negative; I just don't think this idea has been thought through particularly well at a practical level.

ravydavygravy

Sod'o swords wrote: »

So what you're doing is giving free Aid training, through the medium of Airsoft?

So you're not actually an airsoft team, but people who wish to teach people first aid, and choose airsoft as a 'market' as such, in which to find people, to teach.

Would that be correct?

Jeez, no need for the negativity - they play airsoft, and do first aid, no big deal :-)

I can see how a specific milsim style event with medical angle might be good craic, but I'm still not sure if it'll work in regular skirmishes. Either way, best of luck.

Sod'o swords

ravydavygravy wrote: »

Jeez, no need for the negativity - they play airsoft, and do first aid, no big deal :-)

I can see how a specific milsim style event with medical angle might be good craic, but I'm still not sure if it'll work in regular skirmishes. Either way, best of luck.

I didn't mean for that to come off in a negative sense sorry, I'm just trying to find out what their main goal is.

This is about 4 threads on, and i still don't fully understand the idea.

iamc

If anyone really is confused about who the IAMC are, Call us or email us directly. Ask for the number in the email and call us and we will be more than happy to set it straight.

boomer_ie

Sod'o swords wrote: »

I didn't mean for that to come off in a negative sense sorry, I'm just trying to find out what their main goal is.

This is about 4 threads on, and i still don't fully understand the idea.

You wouldnt be the only one thats trying to figure it out.

What confuses me even more is they are not charging for the training to members, they are not charging for the provision of the service to the Airsoft teams so how are they going to be able to pay for equipment and insurance which wont be cheap.

ravydavygravy

Sod'o swords wrote: »

This is about 4 threads on, and i still don't fully understand the idea.

Agreed, but I'm a little clearer now.

I just echo the main sentiments so far - most people feel that doing first-aid simulation (for milsim, or LARP) might be ok, but are struggling to see the application for real combat first-aid at events.

Dave

Fyr.Fytr

iamc wrote: »

The senior staff are healthcare professionals. we have 2 Emergency Medical Technicians (Ambulance) one of which has experience working as a Paramedic in the US, 2 Ex student nurses and 1 Nurse. Our team do indeed have the experience there.
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As apposed to those other types of emt's?
Surely if one of them was a paramedic in the states all he has to do is do a phecc NQEMT and depending on PHECC decision could be up graded to AP depnding on their training.
2 Ex student nurses, riiiiiiggggghhhhttt so two non qualified non licenced to practice people??
1 nurse good, but nursing is a very broad profession do they working a nursing home? ICU? CCU? GI Ward? Medical ward? A&E? The latter being the only truely useful one in a pre-hospital emergency setting

As i have said before you seem to think you have everything in place but from what i can gather you have a couple of people who know what they;re doing, but no insurance, no nationally reconised training standards etc

As ive said i wish you well but the pre-hospital emergency care feild is one which neccesitates the belt and braces principle, you have to cover your arse alot which i havnt seen you doing as of yet

boomer_ie wrote: »

Oh and whats the difference between an Emergency Medical Technician (Ambulance) and an Emergency Medical Technician?

Thinking the exact same myself

Rhinocharge

Please explain the concept fully.
What does your team stand for?
What do you do as a team?
Do you play airsoft?
What do you see your role as?
Where do you guys play?

Please explain more.

OzCam

boomer_ie wrote: »

Oh and whats the difference between an Emergency Medical Technician (Ambulance) and an Emergency Medical Technician?

EMT (Ambulance) is an American (and now obsolete) term.

As with many things, we have reinvented the wheel with added bureaucracy here in Ireland instead of just adopting standard international practice.

The current grades in Ireland are those recognised by the Pre Hospital Emergency Care Council, i.e.

• Cardiac First Responder
• Occupational First Aider
• Emergency First Responder
• Emergency Medical Technician
• Paramedic
• Advanced Paramedic

Additionally, someone can come to Ireland with decades of experience elsewhere, but it matters not a jot until you get your certification recognised here.

Fyr.Fytr

iamc wrote: »

The huge benefit from the "Simulation" is that it provides training for our team, but also people will learn! They might just learn something small like, how to stop bleeding, or how to react to an accident or how to do CPR, all of these can come in handy if they were to come to use them in real life. People may even learn them subconciously and the skill may come to them when needed. We are providing important and much needed, FREE education. That is the biggest benefit from the Simulations.

You are taking the mickey right? You mean i wasted all that time in classrooms in a safe enviroment doing hours of theory and hours of practical followed by exams of both natures when all i had to do was follow someone and watching them.....damn what a waste [/sarcasim]

Hell if thats the case i can intubate, canulate, place cathathers, cut the roof off somones car......oh sorry i ment to stop the sarcasim, my bad

Fyr.Fytr

OzCam wrote: »

EMT (Ambulance) is an American (and now obsolete) term.

As with many things, we have reinvented the wheel with added bureaucracy here in Ireland instead of just adopting standard international practice.

The current grades in Ireland are those recognised by the Pre Hospital Emergency Care Council, i.e.

• Cardiac First Responder
• Occupational First Aider
• Emergency First Responder
• Emergency Medical Technician
• Paramedic
• Advanced Paramedic

Additionally, someone can come to Ireland with decades of experience elsewhere, but it matters not a jot until you get your certification recognised here.

I think boomer was talking tongue in cheek as he has plenty of expereince in a vol. ambualnce organisation and running a private ambulance company.

So they have people with training which is obsolete and unreconised, please add this to my list above about having people with "training and expereince" which have no relevence or cant be used

boomer_ie

iamc wrote: »

Haha...Ok, the members who are providing first aid, are trained in not one, not two, but three levels of first aid and combat medicine. The senior staff are healthcare professionals. we have 2 Emergency Medical Technicians (Ambulance) one of which has experience working as a Paramedic in the US, 2 Ex student nurses and 1 Nurse. Our team do indeed have the experience there.

So your claiming that your team of 6 people includes 1 nurse, none of the names mentioned on your website returned anything from the Irish Nursing Boards. Have you actually verified their qualifications yourself?

iamc

Finance: We rely on donations.
Insurance: We have found our insurance company who are more than happy to insure us.
EMT's: The perpose of putting "Ambulance" in brackets was for those who dont know what an EMT does.
Paramedic: Our Paramedic indeed is finding it hard to transfere is qualification and says he is in no rush.
Student Nurse: Our Student Nurses have experience. Whether or not they have a full degree, matters not, as in the pre-hospital first aid setting, they cannot use their skills beyond first aid without the order of a doctor. Our nurse is an A&E nurse.
Airsoft or First Aid?: We are indeed a group of airsofters, who have first aid experience. We will be providing first aid cover for events, not sites unless they are organizing an event. We can provide the simulation for realistic purpose under request of several Site owners.
All our members have external first aid certificates, but are also going to be trained in wilderness medical skills

To make it clear. We are a first aid team for the sport of airsoft. we are not full time. we do not provide cover at sites every day. Only at an event medium.

Again, if you wish to find out more, contact us.

Puding

so basically your an airsoft team who want to do a bit or larping at events to show off your skills

Tommyboy71

I think I understand where the guys are coming from. My concern is the training you hope to give someone.

If you are looking to show people what to do on a simulated casualty during a Mil-Sim for Mil-Sims only, then fine. As long as the "students" are aware that reality has a different set of rules.

As Lemming quite rightly said - Do nothing to make the casualties situation worse. Giving the incorrect treatment can lead to this.

As all of the trained people should know, and there are more people out there that have a higher level of training than I have, there are more than one or two things that you must know when treating a casualty i.e. Level of response, primary and secondary surveys, treatments, movement of casualty etc. This cannot be taught in the field. Practiced with wound kits and LARP actors - Yes, but only after classroom training to give them the necessary skills to apply.

NakedDex

Basically you're a team composed of people who share a professional background.
Designated medics have been in use in skirmishes for donkeys years now. Their job is to tap hit players on the shoulder, fake-carry them to a safe zone or tie a white rag to the hit players arm. Now unless some has started using squibs in-game, I don't see how a casualty can be better simulated without interrupting smooth game play.
As long as you cover your own asses, don't be an allied liability, don't interrupt the flow of play and not get in my way, you can be all you can be to your hearts content.
I'm not ragging on your idea for a team theme, your profession or your admirable passion to pass on knowledge. I'm just not enthused about the idea of these "simulations" in the middle of a game.

Puding

run with the theme go for a larping PL/pararescue theme with the team






do it right and have respect for the topic

hitman_

Fyr.Fytr wrote: »

You are taking the mickey right? You mean i wasted all that time in classrooms in a safe enviroment doing hours of theory and hours of practical followed by exams of both natures when all i had to do was follow someone and watching them.....damn what a waste [/sarcasim]

Hell if thats the case i can intubate, canulate, place cathathers, cut the roof off somones car......oh sorry i ment to stop the sarcasim, my bad

Anyone who believes you can subconsciously 'pick up' CPR and other first aid skills is living in a fantasy world. All those courses I did were a waste of time :eek::eek: oh ... OK .. shades of Walter Mitty maybe :D

I can see a lot of difficulties in how you can blend First Aid into an airsoft scenario, for the simple reason that the kind of injuries, and the procedures used to deal with them, differ hugely between a "combat" situation (which I presume an airsoft scenario would attempt to simulate) and a civilian "rescue" scenario (the closest thing I can think of to what you would be attempting). If you pull it off, my hat goes off to ye, but I don't see how it can be done and provide real-world benefit to other airsofters.

That said, the presence of highly qualified first-aiders at any airsoft event, whether there to simulate, play, or sit around waiting for little Johnny to finish his game, is to be welcomed with open arms.

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Lemming, you used to be one of these?



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(I'm sorry, I'm CD, I couldn't resist!)

Puding

That said, the presence of highly qualified first-aiders at any airsoft event, whether there to simulate, play, or sit around waiting for little Johnny to finish his game, is to be welcomed with open arms.

any airsoft event and site already have to arrange first aid cover to comply with there insurance, in fact anyone other than the designated first aiders with certs handed doing first aid would have a negative side in terms of insurance, i've been to a large number of events where your under strict instructions not to deal with situation but to call designated first responders from the event, depends how you interact with the organizers in advance

Fyr.Fytr

iamc wrote: »

Student Nurse: Our Student Nurses have experience. Whether or not they have a full degree, matters not, as in the pre-hospital first aid setting, they cannot use their skills beyond first aid without the order of a doctor. Our nurse is an A&E nurse.

Ok now, im going to paraphrase my ABA and DCU student nurse handbooks and regulations i signed up to, as i said paraphrase, not direct quotes

"A student nurse may only practice and impliment the skills they learned during the course of their studys under the supervision of a fully qualified nurse" so if your a&e nurse is with them, fine if not well then they cant do anything, thats assuming they were general nursing students and not ID or MH

Now i need to check this out but if theyre no longer engaged in their studys in nursing i fell they wont be allowed to practice any of thier skills.

Not much use really unless a bed needs making.

On the emt thing im sure the emergency and medical bits give away what they do, and as for your paramedic jaysus in no rush to get licenced thats a first, i know every foregin qualified person i've met has been chomping at the bit to be licenced here. Granted the verification process is long but it has to be phecc verify and double verify every training detail to ensure irish standards are met and that the public will be safe in their hands.

Somethings just dont add up im sorry

Fyr.Fytr

hitman_ wrote: »

Anyone who believes you can subconsciously 'pick up' CPR and other first aid skills is living in a fantasy world. All those courses I did were a waste of time :eek::eek: oh ... OK .. shades of Walter Mitty maybe :D

Im sorry but im dim and tbh havnt a breeze what your post means, can u simplify it for me im slower than the average bear

Deleted User wrote: »

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Lemming, you used to be one of these?



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(I'm sorry, I'm CD, I couldn't resist!)

Could be worse, i still am least he found a way out, git

hitman_

Fyr.Fytr wrote: »

Im sorry but im dim and tbh havnt a breeze what your post means, can u simplify it for me im slower than the average bear

Hi, I was just referring to the guy's assertion in an earlier post:

"The huge benefit from the "Simulation" is that it provides training for our team, but also people will learn! They might just learn something small like, how to stop bleeding, or how to react to an accident or how to do CPR, all of these can come in handy if they were to come to use them in real life. People may even learn them subconciously and the skill may come to them when needed. We are providing important and much needed, FREE education. That is the biggest benefit from the Simulations."

Masada

I dont really get the whole point of it, it appears only to give your team someone to train on with little benefit to the game. I may be wrong of course, but your abilites to sell this to everyone are seriously lacking. I still dont fully understand it.

If there was a shortage of first aid'ers in the sport i would see some use in it but every site has to have someone who is trained in first aid as per their insurance.
You wouldnt be able to do anything for a patient that me or anyone else with the most basic first aid training couldn't on the field so it kinda seems pointless.

Firekitten

As many above have said, i cant really see much point to this concept. Sites require first aiders by insurance, and if anything more serious happens, oh gosh, theres 999...

Please flush from your brains, the image of IAMC members running through the fire and grenades with stretchers and medical bags with thier y fronts outside thier combats.... The game STOPS when someone is really injured. Which removes the requirement for 'combat' medics.... There will be no fighting, because suprise suprise, its a game.

Lovely concept, utterly pointless, go join the army or take a baseball bat to a friend if you want to play medic.

iamc

This is the last time the IAMC are going to comment to clarify the situation.

The simulation idea is not to show at any open day, and butt in and start pulling people out, and getting in the way. The Simulation will be in fact a whole day event. The event will be organized and people playing know exactly what they are getting into. We do not just provide medical simulation at any Airsoft game, and I think people thought we did. It adds realism to events for those interested. People, who don’t like the idea, don’t show to the event. Simple as that.

The team is comprised of trained first aiders with backgrounds such as EMTs. At major events, the insurance companies require medical teams to be on site. Our team are able to provide this for the event runners, free of charge; therefore they do not need to pay for the likes of the order of Malta or the St John's. Why not use the people while they are available.
Yes sites do have first aiders, however in realistic terms, if you have an EMT or Paramedic and an occupational first aider beside you when you come into serious trouble, which one are you going to chose?

All our members when on duty are covered with Public Liability and Professional Indemnity Insurance. We are being covered by a company that covers voluntary first aid organizations, and so we are assured we have the correct cover needed.

Several well known site owners have expressed interest in our team; however it has taken them to be spoken to, to fully agree with the idea. We are no longer going to advertise ourselves. If you want to know about us, visit the site or contact us.

Our team is not a team of cowboys. We are a team of people who share two common interests; Airsoft and Medicine. We combine the two together for many reasons. Provide a safer enviournment for Airsoft in Ireland; provide true-to-life sims and many more. We are not paid. We enjoy what we do. And if you don’t like the idea, you don’t have to get involved.
One more thing that was brought to our attention was the fact that our team, who will be trained in wilderness first aid, survival and rescue, would come in handy in the more remote locations.

Thank you all for your interest,

The Irish Airsoft Medical Corps

boomer_ie

boomer_ie wrote: »

So your claiming that your team of 6 people includes 1 nurse, none of the names mentioned on your website returned anything from the Irish Nursing Boards. Have you actually verified their qualifications yourself?

While your clarifying all that would you like to clarify this bit?

iamc

Sure, firstly our members are not listed on our site at the moment. Our nurse and one other member did not want their names on the site. And yes, we have recieved comfirmation this person is in fact an A&E Nurse.

boomer_ie

iamc wrote: »

Sure, firstly our members are not listed on our site at the moment. Our nurse and one other member did not want their names on the site. And yes, we have recieved comfirmation this person is in fact an A&E Nurse.

Sorry I was going by this page telling me it had the names of your members.

http://www.iamc.uuuq.com/members.html

iamc

That page is no longer in existance. And two of the team members names were not on that page either.

Firekitten

The IAMC (apart from a hilariously egotistical name) have changed story so many times i cant quite tell what you are anymore...

'medics for milsim games' now? and its 'simulation?' so you need the medical qualifications why now? I'm a little perplexed by all of this,

As for running your own 'medevac sim' games, isnt that the relative equivalent of masturbation? Doing it on your own for the sake of doing it?



This is the waltyest fecking idea I've ever come accross in all my time...