Newbie Garda

carlybabe1

Has anybody else had a less than thrilling experience with them???
There I was sittin watchin tv after a long day at work when my doorbell rings. It was a garda come to serve me 7 summons, i mean SEVEN, FFS!
Anyways, he was really nice, and he kept sayin, "you must have been stopped cause some of these are for failing to produce your licence" etc. I kept insisting that I didnt remember being stopped, cause I didnt, and because it was so obvious that i didnt remember, he started to believe me. He told me to ring the gard in question, and bid me goodday. Then I remembered, it was the night that I had a crash, and they had been called to scene, I was in shock, as I had been crashed into, and had my son in the back of the car (which was subsequently written off). They neither asked me to show them, or asked me to produce any licence/insurance/nct cert/ tax, yet thats what Im being summonsed for and the worst part is that I HAD tax and insurance.

Anybody else have problems like this

Mossy Monk

He probably wont turn up to court anyway.

jumpguy

You could go to court and plead your case, which seems plausible to me anyway. However, I'm no legal genius, which I've discovered on occasion. Best get in touch with your solicitor for advice.

dsmythy

Emergency services forum might be of some use perhaps?

galwayrush

Don't think you'll have anything to worry about. It might cost you a day in court, but seems like you'll be ok.

TheZohanS

So why do you have the thread title "Newbie Garda"?

You forgot you were stopped and chances are you forgot you were asked to produce.

That's no excuse to start a thread "Has anybody else had a less than thrilling experience with them???" bashing the Gardi.

It's your own fault for forgetting to produce.

thelordofcheese

carlybabe1 wrote: »

Has anybody else had a less than thrilling experience with them???
There I was sittin watchin tv after a long day at work when my doorbell rings. It was a garda come to serve me 7 summons, i mean SEVEN, FFS!
Anyways, he was really nice, and he kept sayin, "you must have been stopped cause some of these are for failing to produce your licence" etc. I kept insisting that I didnt remember being stopped, cause I didnt, and because it was so obvious that i didnt remember, he started to believe me. He told me to ring the gard in question, and bid me goodday. Then I remembered, it was the night that I had a crash, and they had been called to scene, I was in shock, as I had been crashed into, and had my son in the back of the car (which was subsequently written off). They neither asked me to show them, or asked me to produce any licence/insurance/nct cert/ tax, yet thats what Im being summonsed for and the worst part is that I HAD tax and insurance.

Anybody else have problems like this

yes, i regularly have problems with members of the public getting stroppy when they think they're right......

WeeBushy

I got summoned a few years back; stopped at a check point didn't have license or tax disk on me (were in date just not on me) so was told to bring them to garda station. Did that the next day, no problems and thought nothing of it again.
That summer i went away for three months, came back and there was a notice telling me i was summoned for not supplying documents. Needless to say I had missed it as I was on holidays. Tried ringing the guard named on the letter three times, was never in so left my name, and my number and asked for her to ring me.

That was two years and I still haven't heard a thing, as far as they know I just never turned up to court. What an odd country we live in.

I know this is a little off topic, but just giving my experience with the guards!

carlybabe1

TheZohan wrote: »

So why do you have the thread title "Newbie Garda"?

You forgot you were stopped and chances are you forgot you were asked to produce.

That's no excuse to start a thread "Has anybody else had a less than thrilling experience with them???" bashing the Gardi.

It's your own fault for forgetting to produce.

Seriously, is it too much to ask that people read the fcukin post before porstin crap, I specifcally stated that they didnt ask for, or ask me to produce anythin, ergo, i couldnt have forgotten what I wasnt asked :rolleyes:

Trinity

carlybabe1 wrote: »

Has anybody else had a less than thrilling experience with them???
There I was sittin watchin tv after a long day at work when my doorbell rings. It was a garda come to serve me 7 summons, i mean SEVEN, FFS!
Anyways, he was really nice, and he kept sayin, "you must have been stopped cause some of these are for failing to produce your licence" etc. I kept insisting that I didnt remember being stopped, cause I didnt, and because it was so obvious that i didnt remember, he started to believe me. He told me to ring the gard in question, and bid me goodday. Then I remembered, it was the night that I had a crash, and they had been called to scene, I was in shock, as I had been crashed into, and had my son in the back of the car (which was subsequently written off). They neither asked me to show them, or asked me to produce any licence/insurance/nct cert/ tax, yet thats what Im being summonsed for and the worst part is that I HAD tax and insurance.

Anybody else have problems like this

That bastard, report him immediately for doing his job in a friendly professional manner :mad:

TheZohanS

carlybabe1 wrote: »

Seriously, is it too much to ask that people read the fcukin post before porstin crap, I specifcally stated that they didnt ask for, or ask me to produce anythin, ergo, i couldnt have forgotten what I wasnt asked :rolleyes:

You might want to read your own posts before posting.

You obviously forgot that they asked you to produce, It happens.

Biggins

Nope. Not picking on the Gardi. They have enough problems. Me exiting stage left...
(Good luck with the summons though.)

Abi

galwayrush wrote: »

Don't think you'll have anything to worry about. It might cost you a day in court, but seems like you'll be ok.

Exactly. And leave the bra at home

My name is URL

You said you were in shock, you could have easily forgotten.

Also, it's highly unlikely that a garda wouldn't ask you for your license etc if you were involved in an accident in which a car was written off.

TheZohanS

As a matter of interest what were the 7 summons for? Tax, insurance, NCT and licence would only be 4 summons and your tax disc would be displayed on the windscrees so you wouldn't have been able to receive a summons for that.

livvy

just out of interest which newbie garda are you :mad: with? - the one who served the summonses or the one who dealt with you the day of the accident?

SV

Lol.. Hold on, you're angry with a Garda for serving you the summons' ? It's not his fault you were summoned for it, he's doing his job.
"less than thrilling experience" :rolleyes: I'm sure he's thinking the same now.

Berty

Too late. If the court summons is out then the only person who can cancel it is a judge.

Turn up and bring your details with you. Not much you can do unless you pay somebody to represent you.

BTW, you WOULD HAVE been asked for your details. Having an Insurance disc and tax disc DOES NOT mean your car is actually taxed and insured.

You could have bought insurance and then cancelled it the next day when you received the disc, you could have got a tax refund by claiming the car was written off.

Public court for you. Painful. Always full of scumbags listening to your private case being discussed in front of many many people.

Random

livvy wrote: »

just out of interest which newbie garda are you :mad: with? - the one who served the summonses or the one who dealt with you the day of the accident?

I'd like to know this too.

January

Berty wrote: »

Too late. If the court summons is out then the only person who can cancel it is a judge.

Turn up and bring your details with you. Not much you can do unless you pay somebody to represent you.

BTW, you WOULD HAVE been asked for your details. Having an Insurance disc and tax disc DOES NOT mean your car is actually taxed and insured.

You could have bought insurance and then cancelled it the next day when you received the disc, you could have got a tax refund by claiming the car was written off.

Public court for you. Painful. Always full of scumbags listening to your private case being discussed in front of many many people.

Not possible, you need to return the insurance documents including disc to the insurance company before they will cancel the insurance policy, for this reason.

Nforce

I was involved in a car accident several years ago. A few days afterwards a couple of Gardai arrived at my house with a warrant for my arrest....for leaving the scene of an accident. I'd been brought off to hospital,strapped to a back board, in an ambulance!
Luckily one of the Gardai was a good friend so I explained the situation to him and he said he'd sort it out for me. :cool:

SV

adrieanne__x wrote: »

Not possible, you need to return the insurance documents including disc to the insurance company before they will cancel the insurance policy, for this reason.

Not true. They ask for them back but still cancel even if they don't receive them.

sam34

adrieanne__x wrote: »

Not possible, you need to return the insurance documents including disc to the insurance company before they will cancel the insurance policy, for this reason.

i cancelled an insurance policy once, midway through, and wasnt asked to return either the cert or the disc.

The Big Red Button

If you initially "forgot" about being in a crash in which your car was written off, I'd readily believe you also "forgot" them asking you for documents at the time! :rolleyes:

carlybabe1

Trinity wrote: »

That bastard, report him immediately for doing his job in a friendly professional manner :mad:

Sorry, I didnt make this clear, it was a different garda that served me, and he was really nice

TheZohan wrote: »

You might want to read your own posts before posting.

You obviously forgot that they asked you to produce, It happens.

Are you dyslexic or somethin?? I know what I posted, and I reread it when I read your other gem of wisdom

Abigayle wrote: »

Exactly. And leave the bra at home

Abigayle, you always make me laugh

TheZohan wrote: »

As a matter of interest what were the 7 summons for? Tax, insurance, NCT and licence would only be 4 summons and your tax disc would be displayed on the windscrees so you wouldn't have been able to receive a summons for that.

Thats the problem, I was taxed and insured, I didnt have an NCT cert in the window though, and I really dont recall them asking to see/ me to produce my licence in the cop shop within ten days. Dont they give ye some kind of ticket for that?
The summons are for not having the above and then for not producing said items within ten days

livvy wrote: »

just out of interest which newbie garda are you :mad: with? - the one who served the summonses or the one who dealt with you the day of the accident?

The bloke that served the summons was nice, twas the other one i have the problem with

SV wrote: »

Lol.. Hold on, you're angry with a Garda for serving you the summons' ? It's not his fault you were summoned for it, he's doing his job.
"less than thrilling experience" :rolleyes: I'm sure he's thinking the same now.

Another clever quip SV, well done you.
Why dotcha read the post, cause its obvious you havent :rolleyes:
Oh look, I can use the emitcons too :cool:

carlybabe1

SV wrote: »

Not true. They ask for them back but still cancel even if they don't receive them.

Yes but if they cancel, then you're not insured, and if your not insured then they wont settle, which my insurance company did, MAINLY BECAUSE I WAS INSURED AND HAD THE CERT

Insect Overlord

How have you not been banned from After Hours yet?

Berty

carlybabe1 wrote: »

Yes but if they cancel, then you're not insured, and if your not insured then they wont settle, which my insurance company did, MAINLY BECAUSE I WAS INSURED AND HAD THE CERT

The whole reason the point of not having insurance came up is because the reason the Gardai ask for these details to be presented to them is BECAUSE you could have cancelled your insurance and told the insurance company "oopps sorry I left them in the car when I sold it".

The Gardai would not have known at the time of the crash that your insurance company paid because your Insurance did not know about the crash by some strange case of mind reading.

carlybabe1

chatterpillar wrote: »

If you initially "forgot" about being in a crash in which your car was written off, I'd readily believe you also "forgot" them asking you for documents at the time! :rolleyes:

The crash was last october, and when the garda called, he was insisting that I must have been stopped, so I was racking my brain thinkin I was going senile. It was only when I checked the date that I twigged it was the crash, Im pretty sure had they asked me to produce this stuff within the ten days that I would have 1) remembered within the ten days, 2) would have recalled it straight away, i would have known what the garda was talkin about

LadyE

Sorry Carlybabe, I agree with the rest of them..slagging this Guard for doing his job wasnt fair, he seemed really nice about it too!

carlybabe1

Berty wrote: »

The whole reason the point of not having insurance came up is because the reason the Gardai ask for these details to be presented to them is BECAUSE you could have cancelled your insurance and told the insurance company "oopps sorry I left them in the car when I sold it".

The Gardai would not have known at the time of the crash that your insurance company paid because your Insurance did not know about the crash by some strange case of mind reading.

Ok Now im really confused, so maybe I havent given enough details, heres how it went

I had a crash, and I insisted on calling the cops because I was in the right as far as I was concerned. The cops came, and took both our details, asked were we ok etc.etc. They called the tow truck, who then towed my car to whereever they take it, where it was subsequently written off by the insurance company. End of , as far as I knew, until last night

Saibh

carlybabe1 wrote: »

The crash was last october, and when the garda called, he was insisting that I must have been stopped, so I was racking my brain thinkin I was going senile. It was only when I checked the date that I twigged it was the crash, Im pretty sure had they asked me to produce this stuff within the ten days that I would have 1) remembered within the ten days, 2) would have recalled it straight away, i would have known what the garda was talkin about

He was only doing his job, I don't see what the problem really is.

Ring the other Garda and sort it out with him.

LadyE

carlybabe1 wrote: »

Ok Now im really confused, so maybe I havent given enough details, heres how it went

I had a crash, and I insisted on calling the cops because I was in the right as far as I was concerned. The cops came, and took both our details, asked were we ok etc.etc. They called the tow truck, who then towed my car to whereever they take it, where it was subsequently written off by the insurance company. End of , as far as I knew, until last night

We had enough details...but dont agree with you slagging the guarda calling him a newbie...how was all of this HIS fault???????

AnonoBoy

I love when a thread gets totally turned around on an OP.

It's funny.

sunnyside

My name is URL wrote: »

You said you were in shock, you could have easily forgotten.

Also, it's highly unlikely that a garda wouldn't ask you for your license etc if you were involved in an accident in which a car was written off.

carlybabe1 wrote: »

they didnt ask for, or ask me to produce anythin, ergo, i couldnt have forgotten what I wasnt asked :rolleyes:

Chances are they didn't make a fuss about the documents because you were really upset/in shock after the accident and they were being nice by not hasseling you about documents. They probably did mention in passing to bring the documents to the Garda station.

LadyE wrote: »

Sorry Carlybabe, I agree with the rest of them..slagging this Guard for doing his job wasnt fair, he seemed really nice about it too!

I agree, if the reason for all this is a simple misunderstanding/communication issue go to the court and politely explain that. The judge will not be impressed if you turn up and start giving out about the guard.

El Weirdo

carlybabe1 wrote: »

Seriously, is it too much to ask that people read the fcukin post before porstin crap, I specifcally stated that they didnt ask for, or ask me to produce anythin, ergo, i couldnt have forgotten what I wasnt asked :rolleyes:

carlybabe1 wrote: »

Are you dyslexic or somethin?? I know what I posted, and I reread it when I read your other gem of wisdom

Brilliant...:pac:

asdasd

To be fair to the OP she is calling the original guard the newbie. Not the nice one.







I think.

Sharpshooter

carlybabe1 wrote: »

Are you dyslexic or somethin?? I know what I posted, and I reread it when I read your other gem of wisdom.

Keep it nice.

Relevant

carlybabe1 wrote: »

I kept insisting that I didnt remember being stopped........ Then I remembered, it was the night that I had a crash, and they had been called to scene, I was in shock, as I had been crashed into, and had my son in the back of the car (which was subsequently written off).

Considering you didnt remember writing off your car with your son in the back i don't think anyone will believe it that you clearly remember not being asked for the documents

joey54

carlybabe1 wrote: »

the worst part is that I HAD tax and insurance.

How is this the worst part? Would the summons feel better if you didn't have these?

The Big Red Button

joey54 wrote: »

How is this the worst part? Would the summons feel better if you didn't have these?

Indeed ... and surely the worst part was that your son was involved in a serious accident, in which - no blame inferred - you were driving?

soundbyte

Berty wrote: »

Too late. If the court summons is out then the only person who can cancel it is a judge.

That's kinda correct, but kinda misleadig at the same time. Produce the documentation and get the Garda at the public counter to log it in the official book that it was produced. Ensure the Garda named in the summons is informed.

When the case is called (that is, if it is too late to have had it removed from the call-over list for summonses on the court date mentoned), the Inspector/Super (whoever is prosecuting) will make an application to the Judge: "Strike it out, no evidence being offered".

You don't even have to appear in court. Saves a waste of a day.

arybvtcw0eolkf

So there I was, quietly having lunch when I hear (from the direction of my computer) 'Clipity clop, clipity clop, clipity clop'.

Scratching my head I wondered "Whats that noise" - 'Ah, I know what it is - 'tis the sound of high horses riding through After Hours'..

Carlybabe, we all post sh*t threads which in hindsight we probably shouldn't have - I've certainly done it enough (as have most people here).

Best thing you can do now is pick up all the stones which have been flung your way and wait until the same people are back in their own glass house's & fvck 'em right back at 'em.

Hard luck Carly, you'll learn.

.

Kintarō Hattori

Myself and the missus had an experience just yesterday with a noob garda:

We were walking home form the city centre and were headed down north brunswick street. There was a very young garda coming in the opposite direction on a narrow path. I mentioned to the missus to move in front of me.
As he was passing us he....................... bid good evening and I did likewise.

We were both a little surprised as it is unusual but it put a smile on our faces.

So yes OP- those feckin' newbies, they're awful altogether.

trad

soundbyte wrote: »

That's kinda correct, but kinda misleadig at the same time. Produce the documentation and get the Garda at the public counter to log it in the official book that it was produced. Ensure the Garda named in the summons is informed.

When the case is called (that is, if it is too late to have had it removed from the call-over list for summonses on the court date mentoned), the Inspector/Super (whoever is prosecuting) will make an application to the Judge: "Strike it out, no evidence being offered".

You don't even have to appear in court. Saves a waste of a day.

Not the best of advice, writing stuff up in books is gone, all details of insurance/ dl /nct etc recorded in Pulse. By all means go to the NOMINATED Garda station and produce the documents, have them recorded, ask the Garda for the Pulse number, contact the Garda who issued the summonses and explain and see what happens.

If you don't turn up in court and the case goes ahead, many penalty points and fines will follow and then you will be seriously p**ed off.

From long experience in dealing with the public everyone can remember dealing with the Gardai in the same manner as a root canal or asking the Bank Manager to extend your €20,000 overdraft limit to €30,000, they can recount the encounter blow by blow.

Guy:Incognito

adrieanne__x wrote: »

Not possible, you need to return the insurance documents including disc to the insurance company before they will cancel the insurance policy, for this reason.

I have 3 copies of my current policy complete with dics here in front of me. There was an error on one where they left out my named driver on it, so they just redid the docs and sent new ones. No mention of returnign them.

I have 3 different set of documents and discs from 07 when I cancelled my private policy, changed to commercial and then cancelled and changed that policy again.

These are just the last few policies and spread over 3 different companies.

annabellee77

I'm still trying to figure out the evidence that proves the Guard (either of them) is a "newbie".....
What am I missing people???

seanybiker

annabellee77 wrote: »

I'm still trying to figure out the evidence that proves the Guard (either of them) is a "newbie".....
What am I missing people???

Fair lost meself

Insect Overlord

Car-crash of a thread, to be honest :pac:

carlybabe1

carlybabe1 wrote: »

had my son in the back of the car (which was subsequently written off

Your son was written off? Did it affect your no-claims bonus?

An File wrote: »

Car-crash of a thread, to be honest :pac:

It'd drive you to drink.

gerrycollins

WeeBushy wrote: »

I got summoned a few years back; stopped at a check point didn't have license or tax disk on me (were in date just not on me) so was told to bring them to garda station. Did that the next day, no problems and thought nothing of it again.
That summer i went away for three months, came back and there was a notice telling me i was summoned for not supplying documents. Needless to say I had missed it as I was on holidays. Tried ringing the guard named on the letter three times, was never in so left my name, and my number and asked for her to ring me.

That was two years and I still haven't heard a thing, as far as they know I just never turned up to court. What an odd country we live in.

I know this is a little off topic, but just giving my experience with the guards!

I was the opposite. I was given 10 days to produce and it took me 20, local station just took details and garda that stopped me from other side of the city rang me back a few days later giving me a bit of "advice" never to let it go so long again, I was lucky