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Who do you prefer: Week 5 - Hulk Hogan vs Chris Benoit

  • 16-07-2009 05:53PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭


    Week One - Stone Cold (49) b Ric Flair (5)
    Week Two - The Rock (44) b Shawn Michaels (40)
    Week Three - The Undertaker (36) drew with Bret Hart (36)
    Week Four - Chris Jericho (58) b Rey Mysterio (7)


    The Ultimate wrestler vs entertainer showdown this week! Benoit could very easily be the greatest pure wrestler of all time, sans going mad there a while ago. His match with Angle at the Rumble a few years ago was fantastic, one of the best of this decade. Hogan - the man who revolutionised wrestling,. a huge draw in his day, and would probably, sadly, draw more these days than 90% of the WWE roster.

    For me, it's Benoit. I enjoyed him every time he was in the ring. Hogan had some very poor matches and outside of the ring I hate him.

    Ye?

    I've a good one for next week too btw ;)

    Hogan or Benoit 37 votes

    Hogan
    0% 0 votes
    Benoit
    100% 37 votes


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,152 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    discussing Hogan & Benoit in one thread =

    SuperStock_1613R-10943.jpg

    this should be a fun thread :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,291 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Gerard.C wrote: »
    Week One - Stone Cold (49) b Ric Flair (5)
    Week Two - The Rock (44) b Shawn Michaels (40)
    Week Three - The Undertaker (36) drew with Bret Hart (36)
    Week Four - Chris Jericho (58) b Rey Mysterio (7)

    For me, it's Benoit. I enjoyed him every time he was in the ring. Hogan had some very poor matches and outside of the ring I hate him.

    Ye?

    Benoit was an angel outside the ring wasn't he?
    I'l actually have to think hard about this one like the previous polls. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    Benoit hands down. Hogan annoyed me back when I was eight. Older and wiser now, I see some of his shocking work and cringe-inducing characterisation even clearer.

    Benoit, by contrast, was amazing to watch. Always.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Gerard.C


    Controversy creates cash lads! Yeah yeah they're a bit controversial, keep it handy and there shouldn't be a problem I would think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Gerard.C


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Benoit was an angel outside the ring wasn't he?
    I'l actually have to think hard about this one like the previous polls. :o

    Point taken. Hogans carry on with the media is obviously different to Benoits actions, the Benoit thing was a tragedy, Hogan is just pathetic IMO. Anyway...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    It has to be the brother, my early childhood idol (with SCSA being my teenage idol :pac:). Hulk Hogan was just an absolute hero to kids and it was impossible not to be swept up by Hulkamania.

    Seeing him return too back in 2002/2003 was just so surreal. WCW wasn't available all that much over here so I had gone a good few years without watching him do his thing. The crowd still loved him no matter how hard the WWE tried to make him an uber heel (I mean c'mon, they were really trying to push him as a top heel, he tried to kill the Rock by ramming his ambulance for feck sake:p). The match between them at WM gave me the oh so rare feeling of goosebumps.

    It has to be Hulk. I respected Benoit for his work ethic and I was delighted for him when he won the title (that ending at WM with him and Eddie tearfully embracing should and will go down in wrestling history), but I couldn't connect with the guy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭Shaneomac


    Since it is a thread "who do you prefer" I would say Benoit as his matches where unreal and he brought a lot to the product that we see today(mainly from Japan and Stampede). However if the thread was who is the better of the two I would go with Hogan in that he has done a hell of a lot more for the industry than harm unlike Benoit. Hogan could draw and despite his matches not being technically great, forgetting about his return to WWE his matches where pretty good too with a couple of awesome angles along the way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Benoit by a country mile. The greatest wrestler of all time in my opinion, no one has ever matched his intensity, technical prowess, crispness and desire to produce the goods every single time he stepped in the ring. The tragedy that was his final act doesn't alter that one little bit.

    Hogan on the other hand was the second biggest star ever in America and while I respect the impact he had on the business, theres ony a handful of his matches I'd ever watch a second time and his ego and playing of the political game were notorious.

    Brilliant picks Gerard yet again, these threads have done more to promote debate and discussion on the board than anything anyone has done on here in years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭currythis


    No contest imo,Has to be the late great Chris Benoit.

    Outstanding technician in the ring and he wrestled with such amazing intensity and aggression.

    I met him in 2005 or 2006 when the smackdown! tour were over here and he was a really nice guy and signed autographs for everybody that wanted one,a class act.

    Terrible tragedy what happenned in 2007.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    When the "benoit incident" went down, people were praising his in ring ability, how great of a worker he was, the respect he gauged off everyone
    How he never was booked in a bad angle in the idea if he was going over, or putting over, his opponent always looked pretty dam good.

    Flip side is hogan.

    Money hungry, some say created the lockeroom/backstage politics, had about as many moves as Ken Kennedy had injuries.
    Great wrestler when your a kid, "superhuman" some say.

    But when he dies people will be on about the movies, the persona, the "Hulk Hogan".
    How many times did Hogan do hour long iron man matches?

    But i bet they will rarely mention his wrestling.


    So therefore as who i prefer as the wrestler?

    I picked Benoit.
    Because Hogan was just an "entertainer". Chris was a Wrestler and an entertainer.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Easily Benoit for me.

    As a kid I never really liked Hogan. Even when I was 8 or 9 and it was WM3, I did not buy into his superpowers and the older I got the more I got to dislike him, so I aint jumping on any bangwagon here. I do not like how he politicked to hold the belt constantly in the 80s and early 90s in WWE. I do not like anything about him, though i do have to admit professional wrestling probably would not be the same today without him.

    Benoit for his part was the consumate pro. Great worker. One of the greatest. No such thing as a below par Chris Benoit match. Helped others along the way, most notbaly MVP in recent years. Had Benoit been around in the 80s he would be spoken of in the lore of Dynamite Kid, Tiger mask etc.

    I can see this one being very one sided as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    Hogan Hogan Hogan. Hogan is king and anybody who sees the big picture could never not vote for Hogan. People complain about how Hogan did business or how he could have made things better for other wrestler but if benoit had done business as well as Hogan he might not have had to kill himself every night and Hogan made the sport much bigger and breached World markets for the WWE making more money for everyone. He was the best face of the 80s and best heel of the 90, still holds the WWE's best PPV number and introduced tons of kids to the business.

    Capable of decent matches (Japanese stuff for example) but normally put in there with absolute bricks like Bundy and Andre while Benoit got to work with Eddy, Liger and Jericho.

    As for the stuff he did outside the ring, Hogan sold out and tried to launch his childrens careers by pulling a reality show. He cares so much for his kids that he won a father of the year award and still tried to get Nick sorted financially when he got into jail forgiving him instantly. Benoit killed his son


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Bubs101 wrote: »
    Hogan Hogan Hogan. Hogan is king and anybody who sees the big picture could never not vote for Hogan. People complain about how Hogan did business or how he could have made things better for other wrestler but if benoit had done business as well as Hogan he might not have had to kill himself every night and Hogan made the sport much bigger and breached World markets for the WWE making more money for everyone. He was the best face of the 80s and best heel of the 90, still holds the WWE's best PPV number and introduced tons of kids to the business.

    Capable of decent matches (Japanese stuff for example) but normally put in there with absolute bricks like Bundy and Andre while Benoit got to work with Eddy, Liger and Jericho.

    As for the stuff he did outside the ring, Hogan sold out and tried to launch his childrens careers by pulling a reality show. He cares so much for his kids that he won a father of the year award and still tried to get Nick sorted financially when he got into jail forgiving him instantly. Benoit killed his son

    Its personal preference, not how influential that we're voting for though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Iron Hide


    Benoit. hands down.. hogan played to the crowd, benoit just wrestled


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Its personal preference, not how influential that we're voting for though.

    Oh I realise that but it annoys me how somebody said this is going to be another landslide. Hogan is the most popular wrestler ever (at least in English speaking markets) and Benoit doesn't come close


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Bubs101 wrote: »
    Oh I realise that but it annoys me how somebody said this is going to be another landslide. Hogan is the most popular wrestler ever (at least in English speaking markets) and Benoit doesn't come close
    Its an internet forum though, not your average wrestling fan on the street being polled. Benoit will win by a fair margin, I'd say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    Red Storm wrote: »
    Benoit. hands down.. hogan played to the crowd, benoit just wrestled

    Much more great wrestlers than eternal great faces. Playing to the crowd that well is much much harder


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Its an internet forum though, not your average wrestling fan on the street being polled. Benoit will win by a fair margin, I'd say.
    Put this is after hours and there is one winner, depends how often I can bump this to the front


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Hogan.

    As for Benoit...well the less said the better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Another great choice of opponants by Ger, well done dude :)

    If the results of Bret/Taker are anything to go by, this one should be pretty close if it follows the same wrestler vs entertainer route.

    Personally, I'm torn. Benoit is definitely one of the greatest wrestlers in the history of the industry, but for years Hogan pretty much was the industry, we simply wouldn't have wrestling as we know it today without him (whether that is a good thing or a bad thing is up to personal opinion).

    I'm voting Benoit


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Hulk Hogan.

    /poll

    (this could be a whitewash)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    At least Benoit didn't whore himself out to the media on every possible occasion. Both are terrible people though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Austin and Hogan discussion moved to a seperate thread. Please try and keep this thread on topic folks, Hogan or Benoit, thanks :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Hogan by a long shot. Much more popular. Benoit was a better technical wrestler, but he never attained any sort of status that made him overwhelmingly popular. He was the "Good wrestler, boring on the mic" guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Podge2k7


    Has to be Benoit. One of the best pure wrestlers of all time. I never liked Hogan, he's a boring wrestler and a terrible person. So for me it has to be Benoit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Podge2k7 wrote: »
    I never liked Hogan, he's a boring wrestler and a terrible person. So for me it has to be Benoit.

    I hope this is a joke!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,152 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    going just by what they did in Wrestling im going to go for.... Chris Benoit!

    if it wasnt Who do you prefer, id have probably picked Hogan, i.e if it had been who was bigger or more important or drew more or whatever but I was never that much of a Hogan fan, he didnt entertain me much although i knew he had entertained Millions for years but not me so much whilst although i knew Benoit wasnt the best on the Mic put him in the ring with anyone and i was entertained so I preferred Benoit.

    even if most of those that leave comments say Benoit though im predicting Hogan to win this. This is the best poll for the hidden results too imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Hogan by a long shot. Much more popular. Benoit was a better technical wrestler, but he never attained any sort of status that made him overwhelmingly popular. He was the "Good wrestler, boring on the mic" guy.
    What he said!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Podge2k7 wrote: »
    Has to be Benoit. One of the best pure wrestlers of all time. I never liked Hogan, he's a boring wrestler and a terrible person. So for me it has to be Benoit.
    I hope this is a joke!

    Let's not go there guys, please, it's been done over and over and it never ends well, we all know that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Hogan.

    Nobody could work a crowd and get them involved in the match like him. He could also cut good promos and managed to go from being so stale to the biggest heel in pro wrestling and was great at it.


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