Setanta Ireland wins Sat 3pm for PL rights for Ireland

dougdub

This will be released in the press at some stage this week. This could be the lifesaver for the Irish division of the business.

First set of games confirmed as:
Blackburn v Manchester City
Wigan v Manchester Utd
Bolton v Liverpool
Liverpool v Burnley
Arsenal v Wigan
Stoke v Manchester Utd
Bolton v Tottenham
Manchester Utd v Bolton
Manchester City v Fulham
Fulham v Liverpool
Tottenham v Sunderland
Chelsea v Wolverhampton
Portsmouth v Manchester Utd

Headshot

dougdub wrote: »

This will be released in the press at some stage this week. This could be the lifesaver for the Irish division of the business.

First set of games confirmed as:
Blackburn v Manchester City
Wigan v Manchester Utd
Bolton v Liverpool
Liverpool v Burnley
Arsenal v Wigan
Stoke v Manchester Utd
Bolton v Tottenham
Manchester Utd v Bolton
Manchester City v Fulham
Fulham v Liverpool
Tottenham v Sunderland
Chelsea v Wolverhampton
Portsmouth v Manchester Utd

ffs

**** it anyway

dougdub

yep my thoughts exactly!

3 stations showing the EPL in Ireland now!

Sky - €60ish
EPSN - €15ish
Setanta Ireland - €15ish

€90-100ish to watch all the live games from home!

Headshot

how the hell can setanta afford them

ffs their barely able to keep themselves going in the he first place

did anybody else even bother bidding

the likes of sky or ESPN would have blown setanta out of the water

dougdub

looks like a one horse race not even RTE or TV3 bothered by the sound of it!

Sky and ESPN know they will suck us in witj their current packages.

MisterAnarchy

Headshot wrote: »

how the hell can setanta afford them

ffs their barely able to keep themselves going in the he first place

did anybody else even bother bidding

the likes of sky or ESPN would have blown setanta out of the water

I'd imagine the only bidders were Setanta and RTE with the winning bid being less than a million euro per year,perhaps even less.

Headshot

if setanta is anything over 5 euro I wont be signing up



gutted

Mossy Monk

I am happy to hear that they have kept them. If it means that Setanta Irleand continues because of this then great. But they must reduce their montly cost.

dougdub

As i said on the other Setanta thread it will be reduced to €15ish on Sky from what i've been told.

Seen some suggestions of €5 a month which I doubt as Sky need to take their cut which is up to 50%.

Virgin in the UK where taking 85% of any revenue from Setanta GB.

Widescreen

My initial thought is great, an Irish company has survived a bashing and come out the other side still broadcasting!

But when reality sets in, if the prices quoted are right, to get the football that cost(if you paid the full price)€21.99 last season will cost approximately €27 per month this season!!!! That assuming Setanta €15 and ESPN €12 .

I think for Joe Soap in Ireland it will be a case of Sky plus ESPN or Setanta . Whereas once we had Sky, now we have three companies offering bits of the same product!! Not good

Mossy Monk

dougdub wrote: »

Seen some suggestions of €5 a month which I doubt as Sky need to take their cut which is up to 50%.

Sky get a cut? Why is this?

IrishHomer

OP where did you source your info?

I don't see it anywhere but here?

Mossy Monk

It is on the RTÉ site now

http://www.rte.ie/business/2009/0715/setanta.html

dougdub

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Sky get a cut? Why is this?

From what I understand Sky may take control of subscriptions and have it as an add on to there package. its all hazy at the moment.

PoolDude

So I pay annually around September time (I think).

Will the Setanta annual sub come down or does anyone know yet?

Mossy Monk

dougdub wrote: »

From what I understand Sky may take control of subscriptions and have it as an add on to there package. its all hazy at the moment.

Setanta is completely seperate to Sky. Sky take no cut. Setanta will pay for the EPG slots and that's it.

Manc-Red

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Setanta is completely seperate to Sky. Sky take no cut. Setanta will pay for the EPG slots and that's it.

How much for this package per month via Sky Mossy?

cruizer22b

To be honest that line up of matches is not worth €20 a month. Think ill do without.

Mossy Monk

Manc-Red wrote: »

How much for this package per month via Sky Mossy?

At the moment you pay €21.99 per month directly to Setanta if you wish to view them via satellite. Sky do not feature in the transaction at all.

gpjordanf1

Are these games going to be shown on Setanta Ireland or Setanta 1 or a mix of both?

Manc-Red

Ah man I can't believe these idiots have won the rights - Was hoping ESPN would do it, if its 20 quid a month they can go & shi*e.

Manc-Red

Mossy Monk wrote: »

At the moment you pay €21.99 per month directly to Setanta if you wish to view them via satellite. Sky do not feature in the transaction at all.

You know what I meant - 28e via Sky EPG. - Cheers anyway though , way to much for tripe.

Manc-Red

gpjordanf1 wrote: »

Are these games going to be shown on Setanta Ireland or Setanta 1 or a mix of both?

>>>>Returns to pub.

Mossy Monk

Manc-Red wrote: »

You know what I meant - 28e via Sky EPG. - Cheers anyway though , way to much for tripe.

€28?

gpjordanf1

Manc-Red wrote: »

>>>>Returns to pub.

?????? What ?????

pricewise987

i rang setanta today

i was told that no subs are being taken for july

there is a drop in the monthly charge on the way but he didn't say how much

it is being announced offically in the next week or so......

have seen elsewhere that it will be around €15 per month from now on......

they were waiting to see if they got the rights for the 3 p.m. games first before they comitted to the charge.....

Manc-Red

Mossy Monk wrote: »

€28?

28 east

Manc-Red

pricewise987 wrote: »

i rang setanta today

i was told that no subs are being taken for july

there is a drop in the monthly charge on the way but he didn't say how much

it is being announced offically in the next week or so......

have seen elsewhere that it will be around €15 per month from now on......

they were waiting to see if they got the rights for the 3 p.m. games first before they comitted to the charge.....

Cheers m8

Manc-Red

gpjordanf1 wrote: »

?????? What ?????

Sorry m8 - messed up when posting, At 21 euro I'd be just hitting the pub & viewing those 3pms games there - unless digitalb get 3pms back on 16e (doubt it)

54kroc

Who has those rights in england?

groomek

so am I right in thinking that all the football setanta have is going to be a 3pm game.

Have they lost their games for sat 5.45 and monday nite?

Mossy Monk

cork45 wrote: »

Who has those rights in england?

Nobody does. No one is allowed to broadcast Saturday 3pm games in the UK. It is against the law

groomek wrote: »

so am I right in thinking that all the football setanta have is going to be a 3pm game.

Have they lost their games for sat 5.45 and monday nite?

ESPN have the Saturday evening and Monday night games. Setanta only have Saturday 3pm games.

Manc-Red

Nobody has them - not allowed.

pricewise987

That is not quite correct...

No-one can broadcast in the UK. at 3 p.m...

Setanta Ireland can broadcast in Ireland live at 3 p.m. ....

They always have....

Manc-Red

:rolleyes:

Kristopherus

From The Setanta website:


Setanta Ireland Secures Saturday afternoon Barclays Premier League Games for next Season
Setanta Sports announced today that they have been awarded the rights by the Premier League to show up to 33 live 3pm Saturday games in the Republic of Ireland next season. The addition of these Premier League games to Setanta’s live sports programming has been warmly welcomed by the broadcaster. Niall Cogley CEO of Setanta Sports Ireland commented “We are delighted to announce our success in winning back Saturday afternoon Barclays Premier League games for next season. Traditionally this has been the most popular and best performing slot for us of all of our sporting rights. “We anticipate a high level of quality this season with 9 of our first 13 games featuring Top 4 teams including Manchester United at Wigan on Aug 22nd and Liverpool visiting Bolton on Aug 29th. Our opening game will see Carlos Tevez spearheading the new look Manchester City who kick- off their season at Blackburn.” Cogley went on to add “Although there has been some confusion about Setanta Sports in Ireland following recent developments in the UK we are now delighted to confirm that we will continue to provide our subscribers with the best value premium sports service in Ireland and the most attractive sports option for all television advertisers.” In addition to the Barclays Premier League, sports fans tuning into Setanta can continue to see live Magners League, Champions League, the new Europa League, Formula 1 and golf including The Augusta Masters and Padraig Harrington’s historic title defence at this week’s Open Championship as well as our domestic staples including the Setanta Sports Cup & Eircom League, the Allianz Leagues, and schools rugby.

DB10

There is no way that is worth 15 euro a month. Why couldn't setanta just fold ffs...:rolleyes:

If ESPN got the 3pm games I may have got that. Not by the looks of things neither station have value for money.

denis1501

DB10 wrote: »

There is no way that is worth 15 euro a month. Why couldn't setanta just fold ffs...:rolleyes:

If ESPN got the 3pm games I may have got that. Not by the looks of things neither station have value for money.

If Racing UK comes bundled with it then it is value. Racing UK is £20 on it's own now in the UK.

Widescreen

pricewise987 wrote: »

i rang setanta today

i was told that no subs are being taken for july

there is a drop in the monthly charge on the way but he didn't say how much

it is being announced offically in the next week or so......

have seen elsewhere that it will be around €15 per month from now on......

they were waiting to see if they got the rights for the 3 p.m. games first before they comitted to the charge.....

In my opinion Setanta should pitch at €7.99 per month and ESPN at €10.99 for Sky subscribers. At that price,Setanta should get a good few subscribers and ESPN I am not sure about. At those prices, a premier league fan could subscribe to SS1(with one mix), Setanta and ESPN for approx. €61.00.. Jeesus thats expensive though...and thats cutting it down to the wire.Imagine taking all the mixes,multiroom,hd etc...!!

Mossy Monk

DB10 wrote: »

If ESPN got the 3pm games I may have got that. Not by the looks of things neither station have value for money.

Did ESPN even bother bidding?

Mossy Monk

Widescreen wrote: »

In my opinion Setanta should pitch at €7.99 per month and ESPN at €10.99 for Sky subscribers.

ESPN wont be €10.99. It is £12 for Sky subscribers in the UK.

Widescreen

Mossy Monk wrote: »

ESPN wont be €10.99. It is £12 for Sky subscribers in the UK.

I think its £9 for Sky sports subscribers though....

channelsurfer

according to the indo its worth 750k for the rights and tv3 and tg4 bid but rte did not. according to the irish times its worth 4million and sky was the underbidder.........i posted the links in another thread.
cant belived 5th choice 3pm kickoffs were setantas highest rated matches though????

mossym

was hoping setanta wouldn't get these, as it is going to cost a fortune now for all the footie...will still likely cancel setanta and head for the pub for the games they carry i want to see..

Widescreen

Another probable issue for Setanta relates to the fact that there are a lot of non Sky subscribers who are subbing to Setanta using boxes where the card doesn't actually match the box. AFAIK the old cards will die at end of August.How are these people going to get new cards? Neither sky or setanta will give you one. And I think any new white cards these people source will have to match the box to view the Setanta channels this time. Interesting and potentially awkward.

mburke

According to the irish times they just have the rights to next season, the bidding for the three seasons from August 2010 will be auctioned from September.

In a way it is a gamble for setanta as they might not get the 3pm games from 2010 onwards, what then for the group.


Their pricing will be interesting as Sky & ESPN have HD versions of their channels, last year the setanta pictures were terrible from certain games.


http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2009/0716/1224250761537.html

Mossy Monk

Widescreen wrote: »

Another probable issue for Setanta relates to the fact that there are a lot of non Sky subscribers who are subbing to Setanta using boxes where the card doesn't actually match the box. AFAIK the old cards will die at end of August.How are these people going to get new cards? Neither sky or setanta will give you one. And I think any new white cards these people source will have to match the box to view the Setanta channels this time. Interesting and potentially awkward.

Good point. They must have some sort of deal in place. It is suicide if they refuse to send out replacement viewing cards.

mburke wrote: »

last year the setanta pictures were terrible from certain games.

I always thought the picture on Setanta Ireland was ok. Setanta Sports 1 however was always a pixellated mess.

DB10

denis1501 wrote: »

If Racing UK comes bundled with it then it is value. Racing UK is £20 on it's own now in the UK.

20 pound on its own is scandalous. And what about the people who don't watch horse racing like me, where is the value in paying setanta 15 euro a month?

I mean they have lost any decent programmes they had like football matters and all the foreign leagues and SPL.

PoolDude

PoolDude wrote: »

So I pay annually around September time (I think).

Will the Setanta annual sub come down or does anyone know yet?

Got the following response from Setanta:

To reflect the recent change in our content on Setanta Sports, we will be sending out correspondence to all existing customers before the end of this month, confirming our future content and our new price point. This has yet to be decided, but I can confirm that your annual subscription will be significantly lower this year.

I do hope you'll continue to enjoy our great sporting content over the next year, including Champions League and Europa League games this season as well as our Live Barcalys Premiership matches.

Mossy Monk

DB10 wrote: »

And what about the people who don't watch horse racing like me, where is the value in paying setanta 15 euro a month?

And what about those who want horse racing but couldn't give a flying **** about football. It's not all about your preferance.

snaps

Its a complete mess this 3 subs for sport now. It just shows what a shambles soccer is becomming. Its all money, money, money. Look at these rediculous tansfers now. The poor old viewer is footing the bill.