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Coffee and reducing bf

  • 14-07-2009 8:56am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 42


    Hi all,

    Quick q -

    I'm currently doing weight training 3-4 times a week with the goal of reducing body fat.

    Will a coffee in the morning negatively impact weight loss/ body fat reduction.

    Thanks,

    R


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    No and please do not go and add milk to it as most of the benefits on coffee come from without milk added.

    Post up diet and program and stats if you need more help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭all_smilz


    what are the benefits??:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    Reduce the risk of various diseases / illnesses like parkinsons, diabetes and colon cancer and it helps prevent early on set memory loss.

    That doesn't mean you should go down a pot of coffee 3 times a day!! if only


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭all_smilz


    ULstudent wrote: »
    Reduce the risk of various diseases / illnesses like parkinsons, diabetes and colon cancer and it helps prevent early on set memory loss.

    That doesn't mean you should go down a pot of coffee 3 times a day!! if only

    is the combination of coffee and working out that is so effective....?


    does caffeine itself aid the work out or is it something IN coffee besides the caffeine?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    all_smilz wrote: »
    is the combination of coffee and working out that is so effective....?


    does caffeine itself aid the work out or is it something IN coffee besides the caffeine?


    This article may be usefull for ya ali

    http://www.menshealth.com/cda/article.do?site=MensHealth&channel=nutrition&category=food.for.fitness&conitem=d40f53402a4e7110VgnVCM20000012281eac____


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    ULstudent wrote: »

    Would you mind posting the content ?. That site is blocked for me in work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    ruppert wrote: »
    Will a coffee in the morning negatively impact weight loss/ body fat reduction.

    No.
    Transform wrote: »
    No and please do not go and add milk to it as most of the benefits on coffee come from without milk added.

    Don't be mental. Put milk in it if you want to. Sorry, but I just don't care enough about the potential impact on my workout of the 50ml of milk I put in my coffee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    Article in full from MH

    The Biology
    To understand how a double espresso can take you from dead tired to completely wired, you first need an introduction to the compound adenosine. Right now, adeno-sine is coursing through your veins, and its job is to put the brakes on your central nervous system. You might call it nature's chill pill. That's because as your day progresses, adenosine builds up naturally in your bloodstream, causing you to slow down and become sleepier--a convenient way to let you know it's time to turn off Conan and recharge your batteries.

    Adenosine accomplishes this total-body shutdown by plugging into adenosine receptors--like electrical cords into outlets. "These connections inhibit the release of neurotransmitters, which are chemical messengers that control both brain and muscle function," says William Lovallo, Ph.D., a professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the University of Oklahoma. "As a result, both your mind and your body slow down."

    But as it turns out, caffeine is an excellent adenosine impersonator. In fact, when the two rivals jockey for the same parking space, caffeine wins. "If caffeine is plugged into the adenosine receptors, adenosine can't do its job," says Lovallo. "And this causes your central nervous system to run at a faster rate." Thus you experience the classic and often sought-after caffeine jolt. Here's how to make it work for just about every part of your body.

    Be smarter for life: Refill your cup three times a day. Harvard researchers have determined that men who drink 4 cups of caffeinated coffee a day are half as likely to develop Parkinson's disease as those who skip the java--presumably because caffeine keeps dopamine molecules active. What's more, blocking adenosine may slow the buildup of amyloid-beta, a toxic brain plaque that's associated with Alzheimer's disease

    Your Brain
    The Science: Soon after your first sip, caffeine begins to work its magic by causing the release of dopamine. Dopamine is a brain chemical that stimulates the area of your gray matter responsible for alertness, problem solving, and pleasure. "You have that feeling of being activated, sharper, and on the ball," says Lovallo. "And you can also experience a mild mood-elevating effect." All of which goes a long way in explaining why there are around 9,000 Starbucks outlets in the United States, and more opening every day around the globe.

    Be smarter instantly: Down a cup of joe just before your next meeting -- it'll boost your mind power for about 45 minutes, according to a recent Austrian study that directly measured the impact of 100 milligrams (mg) of caffeine on brain activity.

    Be smarter for life: Refill your cup three times a day. Harvard researchers have determined that men who drink 4 cups of caffeinated coffee a day are half as likely to develop Parkinson's disease as those who skip the java -- presumably because caffeine keeps dopamine molecules active. What's more, blocking adenosine may slow the buildup of amyloid-beta, a toxic brain plaque that's associated with Alzheimer's disease.



    Your Heart
    The Science: Adenosine helps blood vessels relax. But once caffeine infiltrates the receptors that line vessel walls, your arteries constrict, causing your blood pressure to rise. In fact, research has shown that blood pressure may increase by as much as 10 points in nonhabitual drinkers. Yet when Harvard researchers tracked the coffee intake of more than 128,000 people, they determined that drinking more than six cups of coffee a day didn't boost the chance of developing heart disease. And last year, scientists at Brooklyn College found that men who drank 4 cups of caffeinated coffee daily had a 53 percent lower risk of dying of heart disease than those who never took a sip.

    "If you don't have hypertension to begin with, the temporary blood-pressure increase from a cup of coffee isn't a problem," says Matthew Sorrentino, M.D., a cardiologist and professor of medicine at the University of Chicago. "Plus, the impact on blood pressure tends to be smaller in habitual caffeine drinkers because their bodies become somewhat tolerant to its effects."

    Take your health history into account: If caffeine makes your heart race or skip beats, you're probably genetically sensitive to the stimulant. "Although this may sound serious, symptoms such as palpitations are actually considered innocuous, unless you've had a recent heart attack," says John Kassotis, M.D., a cardiac electrophysiologist at SUNY Downstate, in Brooklyn. Still, Dr. Kassotis suggests playing it safe. His rule of thumb: If you think you're caffeine-sensitive, consult your physician to determine if you should limit your intake.

    Stick with antioxidant-rich java: Scientists aren't sure whether it's the caffeine or the antioxidants in coffee -- or a combination of the two -- that provide the aforementioned cardiovascular benefits. But unless you're caffeine-sensitive, go with the leaded variety. Research shows that antioxidant levels are decreased by about 15 percent in decaf.

    Your Muscle
    The Science: Because caffeine revs up your central nervous system, it slightly increases your heart rate and breathing rate, both of which help prepare your body for peak performance. Caffeine may also have a direct effect on your muscles. Here's how: Calcium must be released within a muscle fiber in order for that fiber to contract, and caffeine may block the adenosine receptors attached to muscle fibers, triggering electrical activity that prompts bigger bursts of calcium. "The result is a stronger muscle contraction," says Terry Graham, Ph.D., a professor of human health and nutritional sciences at the University of Guelph, in Ontario.

    Jumpstart your workout: Studies show that consuming 140 to 400 mg of caffeine 30 to 60 minutes prior to exercise can improve both speed and endurance and make your workout seem easier. But to achieve those effects, researchers have used either caffeine pills or caffeinated soda. The reason: "Many other chemical compounds in coffee appear to counteract caffeine's ability to impact your exercise session," Graham says. Now you know why energy drinks were created. Looking for a boost? Try Celsius, which is sugar-free and contains about 200 mg of caffeine per 12-ounce can. To determine if it's enhancing your performance, be sure to monitor how it impacts your exercise session both mentally ("My workout seemed easier" or "I felt like I was dragging") and physically ("I completed more repetitions" or "I didn't improve").

    Use caution: If you have heart problems or a family history of heart disease, avoid high-caffeine energy drinks for 4 hours before exercising. A 2006 study in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology determined that 200 mg of caffeine decreases bloodflow to the heart by up to 39 percent during exercise because it constricts coronary arteries.




    Your Liver
    The Science: When your central nervous system is activated, so is your body's fight-or-flight response. This causes the release of stress hormones such as cortisol and adrenaline. These in turn signal your liver to pump sugar into your bloodstream. After all, had you been in a truly stressful situation -- say, face-to-face with a cranky barista--your body would need that sugar for quick energy. But in everyday life (read: sitting at your desk), extra blood sugar is the last thing you need, because it signals your body to store fat and increases your risk of diabetes.

    Keep your blood sugar in check: Forgo the sugar in your coffee and you'll actually reduce your risk of developing diabetes, according to multiple studies. For example, in 2005, Harvard University researchers determined that drinking 5 cups of coffee a day cuts in half the risk of developing diabetes. Scientists aren't sure why coffee may have a protective effect against diabetes, but credit its high level of disease-fighting antioxidants. While visiting Starbucks, we recommend a Caffè Americano, which is coffee at its finest: strong and flavorful, but sugar-free.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    LOL a positive message about coffee- brought to you by Starbucks!

    Fux sake turn your bullsh1t filter to full.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    in terms of health benefits (not workout benefits) the research has been done on black coffee and more importantly caffeine tablets so hence my no milk suggestion but of course add some if you prefer it that way by all means.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Transform wrote: »
    in terms of health benefits (not workout benefits) the research has been done on black coffee and more importantly caffeine tablets
    So was there any indication/suggestion that milk would affect effects adversely? If so I expect people taking whey around the same time might be effected, since when it hits your stomach it will mix up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    Appl Physiol Nutr Metab. 2008 Dec;33(6):1319-34. Links
    Caffeine and sports performance.Burke LM.
    Department of Sports Nutrition, Australian Institute of Sport, P.O. Box 176, Belconnen, ACT, Canberra 2616, Australia. louise.burke@ausport.gov.au

    Athletes are among the groups of people who are interested in the effects of caffeine on endurance and exercise capacity. Although many studies have investigated the effect of caffeine ingestion on exercise, not all are suited to draw conclusions regarding caffeine and sports performance. Characteristics of studies that can better explore the issues of athletes include the use of well-trained subjects, conditions that reflect actual practices in sport, and exercise protocols that simulate real-life events. There is a scarcity of field-based studies and investigations involving elite performers. Researchers are encouraged to use statistical analyses that consider the magnitude of changes, and to establish whether these are meaningful to the outcome of sport. The available literature that follows such guidelines suggests that performance benefits can be seen with moderate amounts (~3 mg.kg-1 body mass) of caffeine. Furthermore, these benefits are likely to occur across a range of sports, including endurance events, stop-and-go events (e.g., team and racquet sports), and sports involving sustained high-intensity activity lasting from 1-60 min (e.g., swimming, rowing, and middle and distance running races). The direct effects on single events involving strength and power, such as lifts, throws, and sprints, are unclear. Further studies are needed to better elucidate the range of protocols (timing and amount of doses) that produce benefits and the range of sports to which these may apply. Individual responses, the politics of sport, and the effects of caffeine on other goals, such as sleep, hydration, and refuelling, also need to be considered.

    Harv Bus Rev. 2009 Jun;87(6):22, 112.Links
    Good news for coffee addicts.Lee TH.
    Harvard Medical School, Boston, USA.

    Whether it's a basic Mr. Coffee or a gadget that sports a snazzy device for grinding beans on demand, the office coffee machine offers a place for serendipitous encounters that can improve the social aspect of work and generate new ideas. What's more, a steaming cup of joe may be as good for your health as it is for the bottom line, says Lee, a professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School and the CEO of Partners Community HealthCare. Fears of coffee's carcinogenic effects now appear to be unfounded, and, in fact, the brew might even protect against some types of cancer. What's more, coffee may guard against Alzheimer's disease and other forms of dementia and somehow soften the blow of a heart attack. Of course, its role as a pick-me-up is well known. So there's no need to take your coffee with a dollop of guilt, especially if you ease up on the sugar, cream, double chocolate, and whipped-cream topping.


    Int J Cancer. 2009 Apr 27. [Epub ahead of print] Links
    Coffee drinking and risk of endometrial cancer-A population-based cohort study.Friberg E, Orsini N, Mantzoros CS, Wolk A.
    Division of Nutritional Epidemiology, The National Institute of Environmental Medicine, Karolinska Intstitutet, Stockholm, Sweden.

    Coffee drinking has been reported to have beneficial effects on insulin resistance, which has been directly associated with endometrial cancer. Although a relationship between coffee consumption and endometrial cancer risk is biologically plausible, this hypothesis has been previously explored in only 2 prospective studies, with a small number of cases. We used data from the Swedish Mammography Cohort, a population-based prospective cohort study of 60,634 women. During 17.6 years of follow-up, 677 participants were diagnosed with incident endometrial cancer (adenocarcinoma). We examined the association between self-reported coffee consumption (at baseline 1987-90 and in 1997) and endometrial cancer risk using Cox proportional hazards models. Each additional cup (200 g) of coffee per day was associated with a rate ratio (RR) of 0.90 [95% confidence interval (CI), 0.83-0.97]. In women drinking 4 or more cups of coffee a day, the RR for the risk reduction of endometrial cancer was 0.75 (95% CI, 0.58-0.97) when compared with those who drank 1 cup or less. The association seemed largely confined to overweight and obese women, who showed a respective risk reduction of 12% (95% CI, 0-23%) and 20% (95% CI, 7-31%) for every cup of coffee, but was not observed among normal-weight women. There was a statistically significant interaction between coffee consumption and body mass index (p(interaction) < 0.001). These data indicate that coffee consumption may be associated with decreased risk of endometrial cancer, especially among women with excessive body weight. If confirmed by other prospective studies, these results are of major public health significance. (c) 2009 UICC.

    Some pretty significant studies above don't you think - just please drop the feckin latte a day!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    just dampens the response really (milk) but lets face it if your using coffee as a performance enhancer we are not taking about having a one coffee with a splash of milk before a serious session - we are talking double, tripple espresso (when you look at the positive effects in the research and quantity taken). You want a hit but not at the cost of having to drink a pint of milky coffee that would just upset your stomach.

    The cancer one at the end if the most important one IMO anyway BUT how many women are having lots of cake, biscuits or scones with the coffee thus negating the benefits due to promoting insulin resistance.

    Overall, is it going to harm fat loss - yes if its disturbing your sleep, recovery, etc and yes if your drinking the high calorie coffee's and then having a muffin and wondering why the weight loss is just not happening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    Roper wrote: »
    LOL a positive message about coffee- brought to you by Starbucks!

    Fux sake turn your bullsh1t filter to full.

    Who goes to starbucks for the coffee!! No one i know.

    I could never step foot in there without getting a strawberry and cream frappachino ... or a vanilla latte ... with whip. oh yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    ULstudent wrote: »
    Who goes to starbucks for the coffee!! No one i know.

    I does!! its about the only reason i ever go in to college


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