Immediate side effects of a no carb diet

NervousNude

Since Friday morning (when I had my last bowl of porridge) I haven't eaten any carbs. I've eaten eggs for breakfast, meat and salad/veg for lunch and dinner. Cheese or nuts as snacks. I haven't cut out alcohol and had a few drinks on Saturday and Sunday night. This morning I feel terrible though - shivery, nauseaus, headachey and dizzy. Could this be a side effect of cutting out (almost all) carbs or am I just sick?

I just had a small bowl of porridge which I know will negate and benefits of the past 3 days but is worth it for being able to function in work for the day.

tlev

Oats and oat bran are good carbs, dont worry about that. Otherwise, I'd just say you are sick. Bad hangover maybe lol? I've been completely off carbs for much longer periods than just a few days and no problems here.

Zamboni

NervousNude wrote: »

Since Friday morning (when I had my last bowl of porridge) I haven't eaten any carbs. I've eaten eggs for breakfast, meat and salad/veg for lunch and dinner. Cheese or nuts as snacks. I haven't cut out alcohol and had a few drinks on Saturday and Sunday night. This morning I feel terrible though - shivery, nauseaus, headachey and dizzy. Could this be a side effect of cutting out (almost all) carbs or am I just sick?

How much did you drink last night?
You could have swine flu :pac:
Either way I doubt it is from the lack of carb.

Jumpy

Its the Induction Flu.
You are getting sugar withdrawals. It will pass. Porridge has very few carbs, its the milk that has a lot.
Something to note is that you need a few carbs at least. The salad and nuts (and the cheese depending on the type) will give you that, but you need at least 10gm.
Plus you are going to seize up like a mofo unless you get fiber.

Jumpy

Before anyone starts on an anti-atkins rant, this is from a google search, its the best description I can find for whats happening.

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/atkins-low-carb-dieting-faqs/6758-what-induction-flu.html

NervousNude

Zamboni wrote: »

How much did you drink last night?
You could have swine flu :pac:
Either way I doubt it is from the lack of carb.

Yes my first thought was bad hangover but I've had enough of those and this was completely different. Plus I only had 3 Coronas and was in bed by 12 - not usually hangover inducing!

That description of the induction flu sounds very similar to the way I feel. Since my small bowl of porridge (w/ 1 tsp honey) I feel less zombie like and more me like. I also had a handful of nuts and some cherries for good measure. Still very dizzy though.

corkcomp

IMO your a little mis-informed if your willing to cut porridge out of your diet and yet still go drinking!! Porridge will NOT do you any harm on a fat loss diet where as alcohol most likely will .... If you only allow yourself one type of carb on a low carb diet it should be oats!

NervousNude

I know, I know! It's not so much misinformed as mis-priorities

Jumpy

Erm Beer is loaded with carbs. You cant drink beer on a low carb diet.

NervousNude

I think all alcohol is full of carbs from the sugar isn't it, not just beer. I think I just felt generally lousy this morning, presumably the 3 beers would have had enough carbs in them to not get induction flu. Now my dizziness is passing things are becoming clearer!

Jumpy

No, alcohol carbs are very different than sugar carbs. However, beer has tons of sugar carbs as well.
In low carb diets you generally shouldnt go above 10-20gm of sugar carbs a day at the start.
Your three beers alone is 36gm of sugar.

ragg

Distilled drinks on a low carb diet are perfectly fine

I think you are getting withdrawls, its can be rough, you should try and eat mountains of green veg etc
This should help with the flu like feelings..

neuro-praxis

NervousNude wrote: »

Since Friday morning (when I had my last bowl of porridge) I haven't eaten any carbs. I've eaten eggs for breakfast, meat and salad/veg for lunch and dinner. Cheese or nuts as snacks. I haven't cut out alcohol and had a few drinks on Saturday and Sunday night. This morning I feel terrible though - shivery, nauseaus, headachey and dizzy. Could this be a side effect of cutting out (almost all) carbs or am I just sick?

I just had a small bowl of porridge which I know will negate and benefits of the past 3 days but is worth it for being able to function in work for the day.

The emboldened words contain carbs, so you are not on a no-carb diet.

What you're looking for is a lower-carb diet. A half cup of oats only has 9g of carbs in it, and is a good way to start the day.

Cut out the alcohol also.

rubadub

I think oats are about 66% carbs. Unsweetened vodka will have no carbs. Your beer depends on brands. Heineken has 17.6 grams per pint, coors has 6.8g/pint.

http://www.heinekenireland.com/pages/article/S2/NUTRITION.aspx

Be careful of online site, always try and get an Irish listing, as beer and other recipes vary around the world. Heineken is 5% in most countries.

eclectichoney

rubadub wrote: »

I think oats are about 66% carbs.

Think it's a little higher. My pack of Flahavans Jumbo oats says 73g of carbs per 100g.

Neuro-praxis, a 35g bowl of oats has about 25g of carbs - maybe 9g was a typo? Or maybe you just do very small portions :pac:

rubadub

eclectichoney wrote: »

My pack of Flahavans Jumbo oats says 73g of carbs per 100g.

Mine are only 60.4%, quite some difference. These are tesco ones I usually have odlums.

eclectichoney

rubadub wrote: »

Mine are only 60.4%, quite some difference. These are tesco ones I usually have odlums.

That's interesting. Surely an oat is an oat?? I'm never trusting nutritional labels again!

Edit: Could it be something to do with netting out the fibre??? That always confuses me with labels.

corkcomp

eclectichoney wrote: »

That's interesting. Surely an oat is an oat?? I'm never trusting nutritional labels again!

Edit: Could it be something to do with netting out the fibre??? That always confuses me with labels.

it could well be something to do with the fibre .. Ive always noticed that the odlums and tesco porridge has more fibre than flahavans (6 vs 9 g per 100 or something like that)

rubadub

eclectichoney wrote: »

Edit: Could it be something to do with netting out the fibre??? That always confuses me with labels.

I think in the US they include fibre in the carb figure and then list it separate. Sort of like how sugar is in carbs here but listed separate. So we have

carbs 60g
(of which sugars 10g)
fibre 10g

while in the US it would be
carbs 70g
(of which sugars 10g)
(of which is fibre 10g)

Ive always noticed that the odlums and tesco porridge has more fibre than flahavans (6 vs 9 g per 100 or something like that)

Yes, they can vary on moisture too and fat. The cheap tesco ones used to have very little fibre, I imagine they were oats processed for fibre supplements and they were selling the leftovers. Never buy mushy peas, these are usually stripped of fibre too, and are just mushed in the processing, then they have the cheek to charge more than usual semi-processed peas.

I think the oldums & flanhavans have less fat than the tesco ones I have. As 1 thing increases the others will decrease accordingly. Like how skim milk has more carbs than whole milk.

neuro-praxis

eclectichoney wrote: »

Neuro-praxis, a 35g bowl of oats has about 25g of carbs - maybe 9g was a typo? Or maybe you just do very small portions :pac:

I got that initial figure from here. However fitday reckons something completely different, as does my package of oats in the kitchen.

I wouldn't know what to think now actually! Not that it bothers me, I like my carbs.

ilovelamp2000

Jumpy wrote: »

Its the Induction Flu.
You are getting sugar withdrawals. It will pass. Porridge has very few carbs, its the milk that has a lot.
Something to note is that you need a few carbs at least. The salad and nuts (and the cheese depending on the type) will give you that, but you need at least 10gm.
Plus you are going to seize up like a mofo unless you get fiber.

This needs some emphasis.

It will help you avoid embarrasing visits to the doctor. Trust me.

rubadub

neuro-praxis wrote: »

I got that initial figure from here.

That figure is for cooked oats so includes water. I hate US sites for stuff like that, their food labels rarely have per 100g figures too. Also there is no telling how watery they made the porridge.

tlev

I usually get either flavahans or the odlums jumbo oats, and I mix in some oat bran and honey with it. Yumtastic.

Lowers cholesterol and high in fiber.

If you want to lose weight a great thing to do is eat a cupful of psylium pre meal and a cup of oat bran after each meal.

corkcomp

rubadub wrote: »

I think in the US they include fibre in the carb figure and then list it separate. Sort of like how sugar is in carbs here but listed separate. So we have

carbs 60g
(of which sugars 10g)
fibre 10g

while in the US it would be
carbs 70g
(of which sugars 10g)
(of which is fibre 10g)

Yes, they can vary on moisture too and fat. The cheap tesco ones used to have very little fibre, I imagine they were oats processed for fibre supplements and they were selling the leftovers. Never buy mushy peas, these are usually stripped of fibre too, and are just mushed in the processing, then they have the cheek to charge more than usual semi-processed peas.

I think the oldums & flanhavans have less fat than the tesco ones I have. As 1 thing increases the others will decrease accordingly. Like how skim milk has more carbs than whole milk.

I had a look at two different bottles of milk in the fridge last night cos I never really looked at the full macro breakdown of whole vs skimmed milk .... The skim milk has only 0.1g more carbs but it also has 0.2g more protein ... It got me thinking though, all milk is over rated in terms of protein it provides, a tin of tuna would have more protein than a litre of milk!!

ragg

Rosco1982 wrote: »

This needs some emphasis.

It will help you avoid embarrasing visits to the doctor. Trust me.

Loads & Loads of veg & psyllium husk with a pint of water every night before bed. :pac: