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Voodoo Card Club Opens this weekend, 10th - 12th July...

  • 10-07-2009 2:02pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭


    Hi all,

    Well, the day has arrived, we are launching the Voodoo Card club this weekend after a lot of hard work, blood, sweat and tears. We're very proud of what has been achieved here and hope you agree when you see it that its a card players club designed for card players, by card players.

    You know the people behind it, they include the likes of Eamonn and Willow, Daisy, Derek, Barry Martin, Per Hildebrand, Louise Duffy, Jenny Hegarty, and Tom Murphy amongst others

    This weekend (Friday 10th July to Sunday 12th) is our launch weekend and we have announced the main tournament here.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=61084004


    Our usual week schedule can be found here.
    http://voodoocardclub.com/touraments.php

    Contact Details
    Voodoo Card Club
    39 - 40 Arran Quay Dublin 7
    +353 (0) 1 8727918
    info@voodoocardclub.com

    Parking
    Free parking is located behind the club from 7pm - 7am.

    Directions
    voo_16.jpg

    From North
    Travel along the quays heading towards the city centre. The club is located just after Bargaintown. Take the left immediately after the club. Parking in this area is free from 7pm - 7am.

    From South
    Travel along the quays heading out of the city centre toward Heuston Station. When you get to Heuston Station take the bridge over the liffey and head travel back along the quays heading towards the city centre. The club is located just after Bargaintown. Take the left immediately after the club. Parking in this area is free from 7pm - 7am.

    Luas
    The red line Smithfield stop is located directly behind the club.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭VoodooCC


    Couple of quick pics for those who cant make it this weekend... (plus we want to show off our place... we're very happy with it :) )

    1.jpg6.jpg5.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭Tight Ted


    wow looks good!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    Tight Ted wrote: »
    wow looks good!
    It really does. Good luck with it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    soo it's a 25 euro freezeout tonight then as the main game?

    Sounds good for a cheapo like me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭ocallagh


    I had a look around on Wed. I really liked it. Tables are big and seats are comfortable which for me is one the the more important aspects of a poker club. The layout of the place is pretty cool, with remnants of the old nightclub around. Has a great pub right next to it too!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Get In There


    Rojomcdojo wrote: »
    soo it's a 25 euro freezeout tonight then as the main game?

    Sounds good for a cheapo like me

    Me too! I'll be there and will be bringing 2 mates with me. Looking forward to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭DAMO72


    Was this place called Zanzibar b4??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Get In There


    DAMO72 wrote: »
    Was this place called Zanzibar b4??

    No, Zanzibar is now called Bondi Beach if my information is right. The card club was a pub previously called Vodoo lounge which is further down the quay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭nVid


    The €25 FO on sat sounds great value, after I cash in that I'll afford the €50/50 :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭Monkeybonkers


    Hi, played in this tonight and thought the club was great. Nice tables and a good atmosphere in the place. Best of luck to all involved.
    Unfortunately my flopped set of kings no good against a rivered straight. New venue, same old luck!


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  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Hard to be objective from my point of view...:):) heading in now for the team event!

    DeV.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Bloody team event. I thought it was a regular FO so I just ended up going home. Finished 14th in the first FO yesterday and got knocked out about 3 hands into the second one after my flopped set of 9's ran into a flopped set of 6's that turned into quads on the river.

    I laughed and shook the guys hand and then some bloke was like "HA HA HA he's even shaking his hand" as though it was wrong of me to not kick the table over and spit on the guy for being a lucky bugger.

    I most certainly made up for my losses in free drink though :)

    Have to say, it's a very comfy venue and the atmosphere was great. The booze might of had something to do with that though :p


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Had fun there today. Went out 9th. Let down by my team!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭Monkeybonkers


    Papa Smut wrote: »
    Had fun there today. Went out 9th. Let down by my team!


    I didn't know you played! Drama group team for the next team event, led by DeVore of course (we need at least one luckbox!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭oq4v3ht0u76kf2


    Just got knocked out of the €50+€50 rebuy in Voodoo a few minutes ago. I can't say enough positive words about the place. An incredible change from the old Voodoo Lounge even apart from the obvious bar to card club transition! There's so much good about the place for a player like me. I'm not a pro, semi-pro, pro-am... I barely count as an amateur. I stopped playing poker regularly about 18 months ago as my interests drifted elsewhere and the live poker scene in Dublin didn't suit me and I didn't suit it.

    I decided to pop along to the Voodoo Club tonight almost out of the blue as I was curious about the place and I have a lot of respect for the people involved with it (even though I know them by reputation only). The first thing that stood out to me were the staff. Awesomely friendly and equally helpful. Signup was grand, I felt like a welcomed customer not a burden. The guys were full of banter and almost every staff member I interacted with introduced themselves, asked my name and shook hands. That might annoy some people and it would annoy me too if it was faked but the whole team in there were genuine and friendly.

    The waitstaff were great, always there if you needed anything and very quick service. A couple of the dealers were a bit nervous but no real mistakes and allowances have to be made for some people who may only be dealing their second or third shift. Both cashiers and receptionists were great as well.

    The poker? The tourney structure? The chips? The cards? I'll leave the critiquing of all that to the people who play daily and weekly. At the end of the day Voodoo CC is a business like any other. They are looking for customers and hoping they'll come back and businesses like that are made and broken based on excellent customer service and personality.

    I won't spend the most amount of money in the Voodoo CC nor will I be there every single week. But me, and guys and girls like me, will float in and out of the place on a regular basis. And cumulatively we'll spend a hell of a lot more than the regulars -provided Voodoo can make us want to go back. And based on what I saw tonight they're doing a damn good job of that so far.

    For what it's worth, I was one of the 11 weirdos that didn't rebuy because I was comfy enough at the break and built the stack a bit more after the first break before losing a lot of it with TPTK against second pair that turned into trip nines on the river. Table got split then and I ended up on DeVore's table and let myself get intimidated by some of the players (their poker skills that is, the conversation was great). So I anted and blinded away my last 12k at 500/1000/75. In the end, DeVore took my last 675 lonely chips when his JJ beat my 89o when I was in the SB. I was the big bald lad in the green shirt. Not to worry though, I had a cracking time and will definitely be back.

    Well done to the whole team in Voodoo on a great launch weekend. Looking forward to going back!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭Monkeybonkers


    Just got knocked out of the €50+€50 rebuy in Voodoo a few minutes ago. I can't say enough positive words about the place. An incredible change from the old Voodoo Lounge even apart from the obvious bar to card club transition! There's so much good about the place for a player like me. I'm not a pro, semi-pro, pro-am... I barely count as an amateur. I stopped playing poker regularly about 18 months ago as my interests drifted elsewhere and the live poker scene in Dublin didn't suit me and I didn't suit it.

    I decided to pop along to the Voodoo Club tonight almost out of the blue as I was curious about the place and I have a lot of respect for the people involved with it (even though I know them by reputation only). The first thing that stood out to me were the staff. Awesomely friendly and equally helpful. Signup was grand, I felt like a welcomed customer not a burden. The guys were full of banter and almost every staff member I interacted with introduced themselves, asked my name and shook hands. That might annoy some people and it would annoy me too if it was faked but the whole team in there were genuine and friendly.

    The waitstaff were great, always there if you needed anything and very quick service. A couple of the dealers were a bit nervous but no real mistakes and allowances have to be made for some people who may only be dealing their second or third shift. Both cashiers and receptionists were great as well.

    The poker? The tourney structure? The chips? The cards? I'll leave the critiquing of all that to the people who play daily and weekly. At the end of the day Voodoo CC is a business like any other. They are looking for customers and hoping they'll come back and businesses like that are made and broken based on excellent customer service and personality.

    I won't spend the most amount of money in the Voodoo CC nor will I be there every single week. But me, and guys and girls like me, will float in and out of the place on a regular basis. And cumulatively we'll spend a hell of a lot more than the regulars -provided Voodoo can make us want to go back. And based on what I saw tonight they're doing a damn good job of that so far.

    For what it's worth, I was one of the 11 weirdos that didn't rebuy because I was comfy enough at the break and built the stack a bit more after the first break before losing a lot of it with TPTK against second pair that turned into trip nines on the river. Table got split then and I ended up on DeVore's table and let myself get intimidated by some of the players (their poker skills that is, the conversation was great). So I anted and blinded away my last 12k at 500/1000/75. In the end, DeVore took my last 675 lonely chips when his JJ beat my 89o when I was in the SB. I was the big bald lad in the green shirt. Not to worry though, I had a cracking time and will definitely be back.

    Well done to the whole team in Voodoo on a great launch weekend. Looking forward to going back!


    What he said. Very well put and exactly echoes my own sentiments only I couldn't have said it that well! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    Was out for pints tonight with a bunch of light weights who decided 1am was a good time to go home.
    Wandered up to Voodoo to play some cards, I really wish I had a better TR to give but I dont.

    Regged as new member no problem. Asked poker manager looking guy for a seat at 1/2NL, seat available straight away, chips no problem at the desk. Great start after walking in the door but kinda sucked after that.

    I know the club has only opened in the last week but from 1.30am til 3.30am on a saturday night there was the last 2 tables of a tournament (with DeVore tearing up the opposition), one or two tables of 1/2NL, and a short handed table of 2/5PLO (may have been round-of-each).

    There was a reasonable amount of people in the club, playing and chatting, but 80% seemed to be from the UK, probably a bunch from earlier in the week, opening nights etc.
    I've no problem with this but it meant that the table was a touch tight and seemed to be a bit of softplaying going on. Nothing blatant but just friends keeping the game friendly.

    My biggest problem was the lack of waitress service. For a place that served beer (apparently) there was one waitress who made occasional trip in the direction of the poker tables. If she got 2 people asking for a beer/cup of tea she would then disappear for 20 mins.

    Not once did I get to ask for a cup of tea or a beer or anything while sitting at the table. I didn't exactly shout or wave my hand like I just didn't care to get her attention, but still, it would be nice to get the offer of a coffee or even a glass of water without having to get up out of my seat for the few hours I was there.


    Plus: Location, north side is better for me, seems to have good amount of space, plenty of staff, dealers/staff were competent and friendly.

    Minus: Lack of degens at peak time on a saturday night, waitress service abysmal, I ran bad.

    Other: casino table were allegedly upstairs from the poker area, didn't have a look. Smoking area is grand, sheltered.

    Probably worth a spin if northside of quays is good for you, but can't think of one thing it does better than the Fitz, only open less than a week so take all of the above with grain of salt.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Many thanks for the kind words, Rob, we really do want to be a friendly club and a pleasant place to be, whether you are giving it a spin or just hanging out playing pool.

    I'm just home after a grueling 36 hours of poker. I played the 7pm tournie last night, and won it at 3:30am. Played the team event at 2.3pm and exited about 22nd at 6pm. Then sicko that I am I played cash until the 8.30 kick off for the main event and final tabled that exiting 8th at 4:30 am.

    I nearly fell asleep into one hand on the FT!

    Great craic though, but I need sleep now.... mmmmmm sleep.


    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭VoodooCC


    FYI, now that the opening festival is over (and many thanks to the people who came out to play, we had a full house each night), this is the weekly schedule, below. Any comments suggestions or questions, please ask and we'll do our best to answer!

    Mon 8:30pm Triple Decker, Triple Chance, €10(1Rebuy, 1Addon)
    Buyin:€10 Reg:€5
    Chips: 2000+2000+2000
    Clock: 20 min levels

    Tue 8:30pm Beginners Big Stack, Deep and Steep
    Buyin: €20 Reg:€5
    Chips: 6000
    Clock: 15 min levels

    Wed 8:30pm Midweek Championship freeze-out
    Buyin: €75 Reg: €5
    Chips: 8000
    Clock: 20 min levels

    Thurs 8:30pm Double Chance (1 rebuy)
    Buyin: €25 Reg: €5
    Chips: 3000 + 3000
    Clock: 20 min levels

    Fri 8:30pm Weekend Deep Stack, The Hundred
    Buyin: €100 Reg:€10
    Chips: 10,000
    Clock: 25 min levels

    Sat ****6:30pm**** Scalps double chance
    Buyin: €50+€5 scalp Reg: €5
    Chips: 3000 + 3000
    Clock: 25 min levels

    Sun ****6:30pm**** Vegas Night - WSOP qualifiers
    Buyin: Freeroll!! with €10 rebuys Reg: Free!
    Chips: 1500 + 3000
    Clock: 2x30 min levels then 20 min levels


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭hotspur


    A nice spot. By the time I had finished my Saturday night revelry and popped around after 5am it was closed up outside with just the HU going on from the tournie, but thanks to Adam for showing myself and my friend around the place. First impression was very friendly. Pool table is full of win as an addition imo.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    Hi,

    First off have to say the place does look great and I wish the best to all the backers and people behind it. I've been in once, had a good time and will probably be back I'm sure. Below is just some observations, ignore them, take them on board, or whatever but figured I'd give an opinion (thats what the internet is for, right?). I'd happily discuss these with anyone in person if preferred but...

    Having looked at the tournament schedule I am very disappointed. What do you offer that other clubs don't? What makes Voodoo Lounge different? Why should I as a punter go to Voodoo Lounge instread of the Fitz or the Jackpot.

    You've given each nightly game a fancy title, but this doesnt put bums in seats.

    From what I can tell, you have designed your tournament schedule with a view to get players into cash games sooner rather than later. This is a sound business strategy in my opinion, however, the pool of regular €1/€2 player has surely diminished over the last 12-18 months. The fitz is still doing well, as is the Jackpot on certain nights of the week, but they have have earned their customers with ALOT of promotions, for example, the latest 4 JACKS jackpot in the jackpot is something different. The sporting has effectively gone busto.

    The wed/sat games look very good, but again this is a numbers game. I will play the jackpot €40 game on a wed with 30+ runners every week ahead of a better structured better prizepooled tournament with 10+ runners. To really kick those games off I'd suggest money where your mouth is time. Take the risk for 2months rather than waste money for 6months. For August/september, offer guarantees equal to or great than 30 players. For example, €75+5, Wednesday 5th August, €2,500 GUARANTEED. I would play this game every wednesday in august and sept if the prizepool was 2500. And, i would bet that 35+ other dublin poker players would too. But as it stands, my guess is you may get 20+ on opening wednesday (June 15th) and less than 20 on Wed June 22nd. Same goes if saturday was a 2k guarantee or something similar.

    The best example of the previous paragraph is in action is the Friday game that was held in cool hand lukes, Deep stack, 30 min clock, amazing tournament, great game, brilliant, amazing, etc etc... it got 10 - 15 players, you'd play til 3am and bubble in 3rd place or something similar. By all means have a 100 f/o on a fri night, but its a poker club, not a poker festival. 20min clock, 25 min clock at final table. tournament runs 4-6 hrs max. To continue the club vs festival analogy, i'm just back from oxegen, a "deep stacked" music festival, it went on for 4 days! Its also once a year, not every friday night! A nightclub thats open every night operates for 4-6 hrs. Apply the same logic here, have your basic, easy, fun night out, quick fire structures every night of the week, let joe soap play for 4 hrs and get his money back and go home happy and want to come back next week. Dont make him grind 7 hours to make nothing. Hold a deep stack festival every 3 months if you must.

    Again, these are observations of someone who is very tired after Oxegen, and should probably be sleeping. They are meant as positive suggestions, because I'd love to see VCC succeed, but with the current structures and schedules etc all I see is Cool Hand Lukes Version 2.0.

    Also, be the first club to have 50c/1 as their main game, and 1/2 as their big game. be the recession busting card club. Or offer 1/2 nlhe and cap your buy ins at 100 like they do in vegas. Air Lingus are nice and fancy and comfortable and not overcrowded and are a pleasure to deal with, Ryan Air offer very little and are at best frustrating and difficult... which is the more successful business?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Germag


    Please give them a chance to settle down. Who are the backers? By the way where is Luke now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Nick V


    Firstly, can I say a big thank you for posting your opinions - this kind of feedback is always appreciated and taken as constructive by all on the team. I'll pick out and respond to a few key points, apologies to the casual reader for the essay of a post...
    ditpoker wrote: »
    Hi,
    Having looked at the tournament schedule I am very disappointed. What do you offer that other clubs don't? What makes Voodoo Lounge different? Why should I as a punter go to Voodoo Lounge instread of the Fitz or the Jackpot.

    From what I can tell, you have designed your tournament schedule with a view to get players into cash games sooner rather than later. This is a sound business strategy in my opinion, however, the pool of regular €1/€2 player has surely diminished over the last 12-18 months. The fitz is still doing well, as is the Jackpot on certain nights of the week, but they have have earned their customers with ALOT of promotions, for example, the latest 4 JACKS jackpot in the jackpot is something different. The sporting has effectively gone busto.
    The tournament schedule was designed to appeal to as wide range of players as possible to allow all levels of poker player to be able to make the VCC their home. I honestly didn't even consider cash games when creating the schedule, if I had I would have done things very differently - particularly when it comes to the structures of the higher buy-in tournaments.

    I'm interested to know what your perfect tournament schedule would be? What would you have done to set the club apart from others?
    ditpoker wrote: »
    The wed/sat games look very good, but again this is a numbers game. I will play the jackpot €40 game on a wed with 30+ runners every week ahead of a better structured better prizepooled tournament with 10+ runners. To really kick those games off I'd suggest money where your mouth is time. Take the risk for 2months rather than waste money for 6months. For August/september, offer guarantees equal to or great than 30 players. For example, €75+5, Wednesday 5th August, €2,500 GUARANTEED. I would play this game every wednesday in august and sept if the prizepool was 2500. And, i would bet that 35+ other dublin poker players would too. But as it stands, my guess is you may get 20+ on opening wednesday (June 15th) and less than 20 on Wed June 22nd. Same goes if saturday was a 2k guarantee or something similar.
    When it comes to promotions and guarantees of course we have plans on the horizon that will materialise as the club moves beyond it's first week of opening... I hope all would agree that it might be a little hasty to start sprinting just after we've been born. At this point I hope you will want to come and see the club and sample the fair?

    We have already started the promos with the Vegas Night where you can play a dealer dealt game for absolutely nothing on a Sunday whilst tucking into a full Irish brekkie. We got three round two tickets already last night where the qualifiers can turn air into a trip to Vegas and possibly the WSOP main event title...
    ditpoker wrote: »
    The best example of the previous paragraph is in action is the Friday game that was held in cool hand lukes, Deep stack, 30 min clock, amazing tournament, great game, brilliant, amazing, etc etc... it got 10 - 15 players, you'd play til 3am and bubble in 3rd place or something similar. By all means have a 100 f/o on a fri night, but its a poker club, not a poker festival. 20min clock, 25 min clock at final table. tournament runs 4-6 hrs max. To continue the club vs festival analogy, i'm just back from oxegen, a "deep stacked" music festival, it went on for 4 days! Its also once a year, not every friday night! A nightclub thats open every night operates for 4-6 hrs. Apply the same logic here, have your basic, easy, fun night out, quick fire structures every night of the week, let joe soap play for 4 hrs and get his money back and go home happy and want to come back next week. Dont make him grind 7 hours to make nothing. Hold a deep stack festival every 3 months if you must.

    Again, these are observations of someone who is very tired after Oxegen, and should probably be sleeping. They are meant as positive suggestions, because I'd love to see VCC succeed, but with the current structures and schedules etc all I see is Cool Hand Lukes Version 2.0.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but what you seem to be saying here is that people would prefer a crapshoot? I really have to beg to differ here... from meeting players in the Irish Poker scene I think that there is a real appetite for a weekly tournament that is properly structured and designed to give eight or nine hours play. I hope that players will travel from around the country to play this event. Yes, it's not for Joe Soap who has to be tucked up in bed by 1am but it's the weekend and there are plenty of tournaments for him in the week. It's an unfortunate fact of tournament poker but players will play for a long time and get no money on a friday at the VCC but you can play for days at the WSOP main event with no return.

    If you want to be able to get a quick hit or time is an issue you can just play cash or a sit and go and head home when you are ready. I'm sure we will know whether I have misjudged Dublin pretty quickly but the fact is that after 8 hours of play this last saturday the players were asking for me to freeze the blinds or lengthen the clock for the final table.
    ditpoker wrote: »
    Also, be the first club to have 50c/1 as their main game, and 1/2 as their big game. be the recession busting card club. Or offer 1/2 nlhe and cap your buy ins at 100 like they do in vegas. Air Lingus are nice and fancy and comfortable and not overcrowded and are a pleasure to deal with, Ryan Air offer very little and are at best frustrating and difficult... which is the more successful business?
    I agree with you regarding spreading smaller cash games. I have designed our 50c/1€ game to allow a more welcoming game: a minimum buy-in of €20 and a maximum of €200 with a lower charging structure than 1/2 should allow many who previously were intimidated by cash to play.

    Of course the bigger game will be there if you want it... My policy has always been with cash action that I will spread whatever there is an appetite for: when you come to the club my aim is not to just add your name to the list but to get to know what your preferences are. Wanna play No Limit not Pot Limit? - Lets Go. Wanna play a short handed game? - Bring it On! Wanna play Pineapple/Irish - Really... Why? But if you've got the players I've got the table, cards, dealer, chips and waitress service for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭eoghan104


    ditpoker wrote: »

    Or offer 1/2 nlhe and cap your buy ins at 100 like they do in vegas.

    I agree with all Jeff says apart from this. Jeff stop saying this is the norm in Vegas when it 100% isnt. Maybe you found ONE game like this but its not the norm to have a 50bb cap.

    Id like to see some guarantees aswell and I think this is your best chance to start getting a regular playing base.

    I would love to see the club do well as I know Adam. I was part of a group of lads that Derek brought over to the Gutshot last year to play a WSOP qualifier and we were looked after exceptionally well.

    I fear that this place is going down the road of CHL's if you are not willing to try some new things and do a lot of promotion to make the business take off.

    Good luck to you and i will be out soon to see the place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Nick V


    eoghan104 wrote: »
    ditpoker wrote: »

    Or offer 1/2 nlhe and cap your buy ins at 100 like they do in vegas.

    I agree with all Jeff says apart from this. Jeff stop saying this is the norm in Vegas when it 100% isnt. Maybe you found ONE game like this but its not the norm to have a 50bb cap.

    Id like to see some guarantees aswell and I think this is your best chance to start getting a regular playing base.

    I would love to see the club do well as I know Adam. I was part of a group of lads that Derek brought over to the Gutshot last year to play a WSOP qualifier and we were looked after exceptionally well.

    I fear that this place is going down the road of CHL's if you are not willing to try some new things and do a lot of promotion to make the business take off.

    Good luck to you and i will be out soon to see the place.

    Thanks for the well wishes and looking forward to meeting you. Be sure to introduce yourself and mention boards for your complimentary beverage. Another vote for guarantee's, it seems like there aren't any other options out there?


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Speaking on my own behalf here, I know for a fact we will be promoting the tournaments strongly. I am sitting down with the founders this week to consult on that and I completely agree with DITPoker, build-it-and-they-will-come simply isnt an option these days. We have to offer things that others dont, but we also have to offer the basics too!

    As for the tournie structure, I'm actually confused when you say its designed to get people into cash games, because then you continued on to say its too long...

    I played 4 tournies this weekend and I liked the structure, I knew I was going deep each time by the middle of the tournie but I didnt feel it was ever crapshooty. Even the freeroll last night I had 40 BB's when we made the tickets.

    We are all well aware that we've had a very successful launch but the real question is building a loyal and happy player-base. That takes time and it takes promotion. Its up to us to demonstrate that we deserve the business.

    To give you an idea of the commitment to that idea, my whole role in the club (apart from winning tournaments :p) is to liase with the players and represent them to the founders. And vice versa. I will be doing that under the VoodooCC account when speaking officially to avoid misunderstandings etc.
    The fact that the founders are thinking in those terms, I hope indicates their commitment to genuinely conversing with the people who make the club go.

    DeV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭pgodkin


    Nick V wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong but what you seem to be saying here is that people would prefer a crapshoot? I really have to beg to differ here... from meeting players in the Irish Poker scene I think that there is a real appetite for a weekly tournament that is properly structured and designed to give eight or nine hours play. I hope that players will travel from around the country to play this event. Yes, it's not for Joe Soap who has to be tucked up in bed by 1am but it's the weekend and there are plenty of tournaments for him in the week. It's an unfortunate fact of tournament poker but players will play for a long time and get no money on a friday at the VCC but you can play for days at the WSOP main event with no return.

    If you want to be able to get a quick hit or time is an issue you can just play cash or a sit and go and head home when you are ready. I'm sure we will know whether I have misjudged Dublin pretty quickly but the fact is that after 8 hours of play this last saturday the players were asking for me to freeze the blinds or lengthen the clock for the final table.

    I came 10th in this on saturday and even though i short stacked most of it later on the blinds didnt really turn in into crapshoot. they left pleanty of play in the later stages with the amount of chips in play.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    DitPoker, I sat down with Derek Kelly and asked him directly and he said he thinks guaruntees are definitely something the club will be doing in the very near future.

    I know on Monday we had 3 tables for the triple-decker but i wasnt able to make subsequent nights. (I'll be there tonight for the €25 game if anyone fancies taking my money).

    Everyone is just tired after the build but from Monday next week we will start to thinking about promotion.

    DeV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Get In There


    any chance of having a satellite before the hundred game? That'll be a good way of getting the likes of me through the door. :-)

    Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


    I will be doing that under the VoodooCC account when speaking officially to avoid misunderstandings etc.

    DeV openly admitting to multi-accounting? :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Germag


    I am still awaiting a reply to my question. ( Who are the backers, and where is Luke now)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭brianmc


    Germag wrote: »
    I am still awaiting a reply to my question. ( Who are the backers, and where is Luke now)

    :confused:

    Luke I believe is in the poker club in the plaza hotel in Tallaght - nothing to do with Voodoo.

    Voodoo's founders are mentioned on their website last time I looked...

    voodoocardclub.com or something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭bigslick


    any chance of having a satellite before the hundred game? That'll be a good way of getting the likes of me through the door. :-)

    Cheers

    +1 Satellites are my forte :D


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    AdMMM wrote: »
    DeV openly admitting to multi-accounting? :p
    heheh, I knew someone was going to bring that up! Damned if I do etc...

    It wont always be me posting under VoodooCC. That account is a "rep" account which will speak on behalf of the club, in an official capacity. Its the way I would like the entire forum to go in fact, official reps who can be taken to task for what they say and what they can be held as being officially from that organisation. But thats a much wider Boards thing tbh.

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭VoodooCC


    Germag wrote: »
    I am still awaiting a reply to my question. ( Who are the backers, and where is Luke now)
    Sorry Germag I missed your question before.

    The backers list is long and considerable, the primary founders are listed in the OP by the way.

    Luke Ivory has his own club in Tallaght and is not involved with this club.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭strewelpeter


    Friday night game looks good, hope I can make it along soon.


    In the surprising absence of a comment from RoundTower I'll step in and ask the question; why isn't this thread in the Live tournaments and events section?
    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭smurph


    Germag wrote: »
    I am still awaiting a reply to my question. ( Who are the backers, and where is Luke now)

    You can check out here on their website
    http://voodoocardclub.com/aboutus.php

    Luke doesn't have anything to do with this, why would you assume that....

    :mad::):mad::)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭VoodooCC


    Friday night game looks good, hope I can make it along soon.


    In the surprising absence of a comment from RoundTower I'll step in and ask the question; why isn't this thread in the Live tournaments and events section?
    :p
    We approached the moderators before creating this thread to ask if it was acceptible on the basis that other "launch" threads were posted here too.
    They concured and we posted this thread.

    This thread ideally should be for questions and answers about the club itself, which to be fair is a reasonably large development in Dublin poker and justifies a thread here.

    We'll try to keep the tournie specific things to the tournie forum but its not unreasonable to answer general questions in the general forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Germag


    smurph wrote: »
    You can check out here on their website
    http://voodoocardclub.com/aboutus.php

    Luke doesn't have anything to do with this, why would you assume that....

    :mad::):mad::)
    Thanks Col, I know Luke has nothing to do with this, I was just asking as someone in a previous post mentions his name, O.K.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Nick V


    any chance of having a satellite before the hundred game? That'll be a good way of getting the likes of me through the door. :-)

    Cheers
    Single table 9-handed SNG satellites will be available from 6pm tomorrow. Either a €13 single seat or €25 buy-in awarding two seats depending on demand. Hopefully with enough demand we can get a few people into the evening event.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭Kimba


    PM sent


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭goldclubcasino


    DeVore wrote: »
    Speaking on my own behalf here, I know for a fact we will be promoting the tournaments strongly. I am sitting down with the founders this week to consult on that and I completely agree with DITPoker, build-it-and-they-will-come simply isnt an option these days. We have to offer things that others dont, but we also have to offer the basics too!

    As for the tournie structure, I'm actually confused when you say its designed to get people into cash games, because then you continued on to say its too long...

    I played 4 tournies this weekend and I liked the structure, I knew I was going deep each time by the middle of the tournie but I didnt feel it was ever crapshooty. Even the freeroll last night I had 40 BB's when we made the tickets.

    We are all well aware that we've had a very successful launch but the real question is building a loyal and happy player-base. That takes time and it takes promotion. Its up to us to demonstrate that we deserve the business.

    To give you an idea of the commitment to that idea, my whole role in the club (apart from winning tournaments :p) is to liase with the players and represent them to the founders. And vice versa. I will be doing that under the VoodooCC account when speaking officially to avoid misunderstandings etc. The fact that the founders are thinking in those terms, I hope indicates their commitment to genuinely conversing with the people who make the club go.

    DeV.


    I wasn't allowed to do this when i wasnted to continue my old account(setting up this account only to post anything official from the Gold Club). It got banned for multi accounting :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭oq4v3ht0u76kf2


    This just in: the world's not fair. More at 11!

    You also probably don't get bitched at a thousand times a day about Boards. You win some, you lose some.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭Theresalwaysone


    Is Derek Kelly formerly of Cool Hand Lukes one of the founders/backers of this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭eoghan104


    Is Derek Kelly formerly of Cool Hand Lukes one of the founders/backers of this?
    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭Theresalwaysone


    eoghan104 wrote: »
    Yes.

    I reckon people should have a read of the blog in Bohsmans sig so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭eoghan104


    I reckon people should have a read of the blog in Bohsmans sig so.
    Whatever happened in the past is fair enough people will make their own judgements on it. This thread however is not the place to discuss it or to point towards a blog discussing it.

    You should delete your post IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭Theresalwaysone


    eoghan104 wrote: »
    Whatever happened in the past is fair enough people will make their own judgements on it. This thread however is not the place to discuss it or to point towards a blog discussing it.

    You should delete your post IMO.

    Im not discussing it. But I disagree it shouldn't be pointed towards. People should know who they are dealing with.

    No intention of deleting it. Report it if you want, if the mods decide to delete it then fair enough but I don't see anything wrong with it at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭eoghan104


    Im not discussing it. But I disagree it shouldn't be pointed towards. People should know who they are dealing with.

    No intention of deleting it. Report it if you want, if the mods decide to delete it then fair enough but I don't see anything wrong with it at all.
    Now dont get me wrong, I have my own judgements of what happened, but to say "people should know what they are dealing with" by pointing to a random blog entry is hardly fair. Whats to say that random blog entry is fact?

    That is why I think its unfair to link the blog in this thread. If there was a link to arguments from both sides fair enough but there is not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭Theresalwaysone


    eoghan104 wrote: »
    Now dont get me wrong, I have my own judgements of what happened, but to say "people should know what they are dealing with" by pointing to a random blog entry is hardly fair. Whats to say that random blog entry is fact?

    That is why I think its unfair to link the blog in this thread. If there was a link to arguments from both sides fair enough but there is not.

    I am not aware of any counter argument and if I was Id happily point towards it.

    Nothing is to say it is fact but that doesn't mean people shouldnt be made aware of it, let them decide whether they want to believe it.

    I think that if people intend on frequenting this club then they should have a read of the blog.


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