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dance music isnt music

  • 10-07-2009 4:33am
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    dance music in my opinion is the most brutal thing ever. it shouldn even be called music. music is supposed played by an instrument.. not just loud thumps and the likes from a computer. i cant understand y one wud listen to it. and then to make it worse you see all the boy racers goin around playin dance tunes so there speakers will sound louder....ridiculous


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    I agree. Terrible stuff all together.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    OP, your logic is flawed, I play my instrument all the time, doesn't make music though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Killgore Trout


    finnerz1 wrote: »
    dance music in my opinion is the most brutal thing ever. it shouldn even be called music. music is supposed played by an instrument.. not just loud thumps and the likes from a computer. i cant understand y one wud listen to it. and then to make it worse you see all the boy racers goin around playin dance tunes so there speakers will sound louder....ridiculous

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    finnerz1 wrote: »
    and then to make it worse you see all the boy racers goin around playin dance tunes so there speakers will sound louder....ridiculous

    They all secretly love classical music, but listen to dance music due to peer pressure... Quite sad really.
    I totally agree with you... I could make better sounding "music" than most dance music by just banging some pots and pans in my kitchen

    I think the mods should just lock this forum... Its full of druggies and scum:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jtsuited


    Offaly eh?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    jtsuited wrote: »
    Offaly eh?

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭Starfox


    Dance music is the devil!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N


    Darts isn't a real sport..... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,245 ✭✭✭old gregg


    dance music turned me into a deviant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭MikeHoncho


    Wiki says:

    Music is an art form whose medium is sound. Common elements of music are pitch (which governs melody and harmony), rhythm (and its associated concepts tempo, meter, and articulation), dynamics, and the sonic qualities of timbre and texture.

    I would say you are probably pretty young and the only "Dance" music you have been exposed to is the likes of Cascada, Ferry Corsten and Scooter. Your right all that stuff is **** but unfortunatly it is all still music. Try scratching the service a little before dumping all dance music into the same bundle though. Check out the track below. You cant say that it doesnt take as much if not more talent to compose something like this as it takes Kings Of Leon or Snow Patrol to write their cookie cutter 3 chord rock songs.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Jev/N wrote: »
    Darts isn't a real sport..... :p

    I also noticed a post about Christy Moore. I hope he doesn't think that an 'artist' whose claim to fame lies in his sweating and reeling off lyrics about the craic in Ireland like Lisdoonvarna and Euro 88 is a musician!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭unreggd


    I'm more pissed off about the fact its called DANCE music


    ye cant dance to dance music!

    Shudda called it Madouveh Music


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Bloody hell, you tell us what should and should not be called dance music and you have gone to see the following!
    unreggd wrote: »
    Alexandra Burke
    Other X Factor heads
    Avril Lavigne
    Pussycat Dolls
    Gwen Stefani
    Beyonce
    Maroon 5
    Snow Patrol
    Mika
    Aslan
    Kanye West

    You paid to see Mika? I think that disentitles you from having any opinion on any music anywhere! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    Jev/N wrote: »
    Darts isn't a real sport..... :p

    I beg to differ :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Jay D


    Hahaha, oh waith this ISN'T April fool's yet you still have a thick culchie saying silly things :D


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Let's not turn this into an urban/rural thing.

    I have 101 jackeen skanger junkie jokes. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭VinylJunkie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    I have 101 jackeen skanger junkie jokes. ;)
    Most boggers do. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭domcq


    finnerz1 wrote: »
    dance music in my opinion is the most brutal thing ever. it shouldn even be called music. music is supposed played by an instrument.. not just loud thumps and the likes from a computer. i cant understand y one wud listen to it. and then to make it worse you see all the boy racers goin around playin dance tunes so there speakers will sound louder....ridiculous

    Well you're not going to win any prizes for spelling or punctuation. Perhaps you're time would be better spent in the class room than on here bashing legitimate forms of music.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    Most boggers do. :pac:

    Life on the farm...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRXkyX1QRB8


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    tman wrote: »
    They all secretly love classical music, but listen to dance music due to peer pressure... Quite sad really.
    I totally agree with you... I could make better sounding "music" than most dance music by just banging some pots and pans in my kitchen

    I think the mods should just lock this forum... Its full of druggies and scum:mad:

    I love classical music, and electronica, metal, even some opera appeals to me. I like mellow guitar driven ballads and i like AC/DC.

    Are you saying there is something wrong with liking classical music?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhP6F-vxeZI


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭Starfox


    I wonder what it is about 'dance music' that makes him so upset, at the end of the day there is phycology behind it when every time he hears some it makes him angry or scared :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭brianc27


    infairness to the lad, judging by his post hes no older then 17/18 and the only sort of electronic music he has heard is that out of a boy racers car. everybody knows the ****e those boys racers play is akin to some other musical ****e like the cheeky girls or sclub7 or some bollox like that, so you cant really blame the lad for thinking this way due to his limited knowledge on the subject.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Yo Mamma


    Blatant Troll !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    finnerz1 wrote: »
    dance music in my opinion is the most brutal thing ever. it shouldn even be called music. music is supposed played by an instrument.. not just loud thumps and the likes from a computer. i cant understand y one wud listen to it. and then to make it worse you see all the boy racers goin around playin dance tunes so there speakers will sound louder....ridiculous

    Dance "Music" isn't music? So why did you call it Dance Music? The clue is in the name.

    Anything with a beat is music...and a computer is an instrument!!

    Btw i hate dance music too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Yo Mamma wrote: »
    Blatant Troll !!
    Which didn't work.
    Everybody has been like, "yeah whatever, he's probably just young"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,132 ✭✭✭silvine


    Dance is as much music as rock r n b, jazz etc.

    Admittedly it can be a little harder to get into than other types, especially considering there's no real visible face to most dance tracks and DJs are always changing their name, working on other people's tracks etc.

    There's lots of different types of dance too. For example a trance fan might hate garage etc but to the uneducated ear they're both just repetitive drum noises.

    If you ignore the Cascadas and the awful remixes of rock tunes there's loads of cool stuff out there. And there's nothing like standing in the middle of a club surrounded by like minded people going nuts to a proper tune.

    Pick up a Hed Kandi or a Euphoria best of and you'll find some proper tunes. There's also a thread in the dance forum with links to the best tracks of this year. Take a look and listen.

    Failing that check out Faithless.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    silvine wrote: »
    Failing that check out Faithless.

    I know we might not agree with him, but no need to inflict that sort of punishment!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Dragan wrote: »
    Are you saying there is something wrong with liking classical music?

    Yep... Sure all it is is a bunch of old codgers plucking a few strings and blowing a flute... You can hardly classify that as "music" now can you?:confused:
    I could make better "music" by bumming a cat!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭VinylJunkie


    I think you still have a bit to learn aswel my friend, I'm aware everyones tastes are different but,
    silvine wrote: »
    Pick up a Hed Kandi or a Euphoria best of and you'll find some proper tunes. There's also a thread in the dance forum with links to the best tracks of this year. Take a look and listen.

    Failing that check out Faithless.
    :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jtsuited


    the very sad thing about ireland is that once you get get further west than the m50, there is a famine of cultural capital and if it's not trance/hard house, they ain't heard of it.

    lol at OP. Just lol.

    I know it's a tad unfair to make this into a jackeen/culchie thing but the cultural ignorance found outside the pale (excluding cork, limerick, waterford and maybe galway) is really remarkable in this day and age.

    WTF is with midlands people being hilariously ignorant (massive generalisation but you get the point)?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 finnerz1


    Jev/N wrote: »
    Darts isn't a real sport..... :p
    whendid i say it was


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    finnerz1 wrote: »
    whendid i say it was

    Aww bless


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    jtsuited wrote: »
    the cultural ignorance found outside the pale (excluding cork, limerick, waterford and maybe galway) is really remarkable in this day and age.

    Maybe in the clubs.

    But will be at a party or two over the weekend and it will no doubt be psytrance or dnb. And that's in the arse end of nowhere in South Kerry.

    If culture means having a moustache and wearing a Celtic FC or light blue Arnotts gaa jersey, I agree that Dublin is the place to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭brianc27


    silvine wrote: »

    Pick up a Hed Kandi or a Euphoria best of and you'll find some proper tunes. There's also a thread in the dance forum with links to the best tracks of this year. Take a look and listen.

    Failing that check out Faithless.

    jesus christ, listening to that sh*te will just add fuel to the fire


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,245 ✭✭✭old gregg


    If culture means having a moustache and wearing a Celtic FC or light blue Arnotts gaa jersey, I agree that Dublin is the place to go.


    ... love the suggestion of a moustache here ... all the clean shaven Dublin lads are suddenly deeply concerned at their coolness and street cred :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭VinylJunkie


    finnerz1 wrote: »
    whendid i say it was

    Excellent
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jtsuited


    Maybe in the clubs.

    But will be at a party or two over the weekend and it will no doubt be psytrance or dnb. And that's in the arse end of nowhere in South Kerry.

    gonna ruffle a few feathers here but dnb and psytrance are pretty lowest common denominator imo. I know they're not that as bad (nor as popular) as hard house or trance (and indeed there is good in both genres) but they're not particularly sophisticated genres (yes i know it's snobby and pretentious to say but it's true imo).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭joker77


    jtsuited wrote: »
    gonna ruffle a few feathers here but dnb and psytrance are pretty lowest common denominator imo. I know they're not that as bad (nor as popular) as hard house or trance (and indeed there is good in both genres) but they're not particularly sophisticated genres (yes i know it's snobby and pretentious to say but it's true imo).
    Wowzer, broad brush strokes is it? :D

    I'm very much into tech-house / deep house / techno / minimal, but I'm exposed to a lot of dnb as my girlfriend's brother makes the stuff, he's had stuff released on Reinforced and Metalheadz to name a couple of labels. To say that dnb isn't as sophisticated and is lowest common denominator music, well simply put I'd just have to disagree. It's not really my scene, but there's an awful lot of very good quality music made there - if you're not into it then fine, but give it a bit of respect!

    Psytrance isn't my scene, but I wouldn't put it in the same bracket as hard house or trance, not at all.


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    jtsuited wrote: »
    they're not particularly sophisticated genres (yes i know it's snobby and pretentious to say but it's true imo).

    It's not so much snobby as nonsensical. It's like saying fire engines are more sophisticated than clouds.

    I agree the people will not be that sophisticated, if that's what you're saying. Lots of torn clothes and dreadlocks and an absence of aftershave. But it'll be fun.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭Boxfresh


    silvine wrote: »
    Pick up a Hed Kandi or a Euphoria best of and you'll find some proper tunes.

    Are you serious?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭EvolutionNights


    jtsuited wrote: »
    but they're not particularly sophisticated genres (yes i know it's snobby and pretentious to say but it's true imo).

    I wouldn't say that your quote was snobby or pretentious, just wrong.
    I've been listening, playing and involved in the psytrance scene for the last 6 or 7 years and it is a very sophisticated music. You have maybe just heard the tip of the iceberg with regards to tunes. Go to any of the larger parties/festivals in Europe and you'll hear a very diverse sound to what you may already know.

    Anyway, back on topic. I reckon this is what the OPs vision of dance music is.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWDsPJrUvns&feature=player_embedded


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Has anyone mentioned Put a Donk On It yet?

    Tuuuuuuuuuune!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,132 ✭✭✭silvine


    Jesus Christ I only recommended the Euphoria albums because some of them are mix compilation of some of the biggest tunes, of the last ten years, eg Cafe Del Mar. I know it's very commercial, and some of the David Pearce stuff is muck, but it serves as a good introduction to house/trance. And the Euphoria Ireland release was excellent.

    I'd also recommend Fatboy Slim's Live At Brighton Beach, Digitalism, Tiga, and DJ Shadow's Entroducing.

    I stand by the Hed Kandi and Faithless recommendations. The former are normally decent mixes and the latter are a cracking act.

    I notice no one here has recommended a good introductory dance offering.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,531 ✭✭✭jonny68


    The best one i ever heard was from those geeks Baddiel and Skinner describing Rave as being "music that sounds like a car alarm going off" :eek::D:D my old dear (i gave her an awful time over the years playing Rave and coming in on Monday afternoon madouttait:D) used to say it was boom boom music made by the devil :eek::D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    finnerz1 wrote: »
    dance music in my opinion is the most brutal thing ever. it shouldn even be called music. music is supposed played by an instrument.. not just loud thumps and the likes from a computer. i cant understand y one wud listen to it. and then to make it worse you see all the boy racers goin around playin dance tunes so there speakers will sound louder....ridiculous

    Oh get over yourself. Music is different things to different people. Your view is simply that of an angsty 16 year old MCR fan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 382 ✭✭acman


    Wow, did this guy ruffle some feathers!

    As fun as it is to defend the subject from the ignorance of the OP, I reckon this guy/gal made a random post in a random forum just to take the p/ss...and is getting away with it LOL!

    This does however, make me ask that if you were to give one excellent, solid example of what good "dance" music is, what would it be? Not so easy to answer if you ask me...

    That said, im off to post something ridiculous in the Darts forum :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭domcq


    silvine wrote: »
    Jesus Christ I only recommended the Euphoria albums because some of them are mix compilation of some of the biggest tunes, of the last ten years, eg Cafe Del Mar. I know it's very commercial, and some of the David Pearce stuff is muck, but it serves as a good introduction to house/trance. And the Euphoria Ireland release was excellent.

    I'd also recommend Fatboy Slim's Live At Brighton Beach, Digitalism, Tiga, and DJ Shadow's Entroducing.

    I stand by the Hed Kandi and Faithless recommendations. The former are normally decent mixes and the latter are a cracking act.

    I notice no one here has recommended a good introductory dance offering.

    Love Fatboy Slim's Big Beach Boutique too. Underworld's "Everything live" is great too.

    Introductory Dance music: Underworld, Daft Punk, Prodigy, Groove Armada etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭VinylJunkie


    Dance is a catchment phrase used to describe a whole range of different sounds. Dance is a word I don't like using as to me describes Basshunter or Scooter. Therefore to understand Dance you need to delve into the genre's, there is a genre for anybody's taste from Tech House to Drum&Bass.

    I love Minimal, within Minimal there is a whole range of sounds and I particularly like rolling baselines with some dark vocals. Gaiser to me is a god I love his tunes, I understand people will disagree(Jonny68:D) but each to there own, so in future before you make a rash comment you should understand the topic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭Darlughda


    Boys quit yer quibblin!

    If its got rhythm and your feet are moving whats the problem?


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