Is Unarmed Combat of any practical use in an army ?

punchdrunk

watch this...

Lockstep

The Irish army has an unarmed combat course, Connect had a photo of the lads to got the certificate.

Irish_Army01

kickoutthejams wrote: »

The Irish army has an unarmed combat course, Connect had a photo of the lads to got the certificate.

That is correct..Very intensive 4 week cse for NCO and Officers..At this stage most if not all operational Units will have a good quota of Instructors..

I did my cse 4 years ago and its a great cse to do..

Craigsy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1HcOVTrLRs

The enemy cannot press the button if you disable his hand
:pac::pac:

senordingdong

Well it certainly wouldn't do you any harm.

McArmalite

Denver Purple Smorgasbord wrote: »

Actually it doesn't!.

MMA is a sport, it'll always be a sport and so is fought under a set of rules with a referee to ensure the safety of both fighters.

What martial arts can never replicate is violence, sure you'll fight/spar aggressive & assertive opponents but they'll never have the intent to kill you.

They'll never have weapons to hand, or webbing/smocks to grab. The MMA fighter will never have trained against a kick in the balls, or gouging an eye or against weapons such as your bayonet, or a head butt etc..

However training in a Martial Art should give you an edge over an untrained opponent, but its not realistic to expect an ordinary line unit to provide the constant, regular training necessary to effectly fight on the battle field.

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I suppose Denver Purple Smorgasbord nails it, " However training in a Martial Art should give you an edge over an untrained opponent, but its not realistic to expect an ordinary line unit to provide the constant, regular training necessary to effectly fight on the battle field. "

twinytwo

McArmalite wrote: »

I suppose Makikomi nails it, " However training in a Martial Art should give you an edge over an untrained opponent, but its not realistic to expect an ordinary line unit to provide the constant, regular training necessary to effectly fight on the battle field. "

if your clearing a house or patroling the jungle... some dude decides to banzi charge you.. and your gun jams...what you going to scream at him??... i think everyone should be trained to a basic standard of unarmed combat

arybvtcw0eolkf

twinytwo wrote: »

if your clearing a house or patroling the jungle... some dude decides to banzi charge you.. and your gun jams...what you going to scream at him??... i think everyone should be trained to a basic standard of unarmed combat

Basic standard..

1, kick in the bollox.

2. Smack the fvcker in the face with (a) your rifle (b) your fist - but probably injury yourself or (c) run your bayonet through his gut.

3. Hope your mate has your back and blows his damn head off.

I'll tell you something, I've a black belt in one style of Martial Arts and a brown in another and in the situ you've described above surprise/fear/adrenline mean's I probably wouldn't do anything fancier than one or more of the above.

But get into a scrap and I'd most likely beat the guy, or at least do enough than I won't be beaten before either killing him, my mate killing him or making an escape.

Unarmed combat is pretty useless unless done regularly and in an 'alive' environment with resisting opponents to test your fitness/skills against.

Tbh, I'd rather see soldiers receive regular and intensive medical training than unarmed combat training. At least they're learning a skill which at some point WILL be useful to either themselves, their unit/comrades or their families & friends.

But hey, thats just me but it might make other's feel good about themselves.

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Burnt

This maybe an aside; but, BA are current running a series of "what would you
do" recruitment videos the latest one has them distrubing food aid and the
crowd starts to get unruly.

The advert gives three options, one of which includes breaking it up, clearly
opening fire into the crowd is not an acceptable response in this situation,
so would crowd control a.) come under combatives B.) be worthwhile or
seriously practised; for an army heavly involved in peacekeeping operations?

I feel the term martial arts of conjures up to many notions of a of ninja's or
samurai wannabe's, which may not be fair to everyone. A similar thread was
posted in the Garda/ES forum; by myself and it was largely dismissed out of
hand.

concussion

You forgot C-everybody back on the truck with the food, try again later

Burnt

concussion wrote: »

You forgot C-everybody back on the truck with the food, try again later

I don't disagree; merely curious if it would have a place?