Paris Jackson - Fake tears??

G86

Did anyone see Paris's wee breakdown at the funeral? I'm not entirely convinced that it was genuine to be honest. She was standing there completely composed for a good while and then suddenly she bursts into tears?

I'm not saying I'm right, the girl could have been genuinely in bits, I'm just not wild sure - what do ye make of it?

Fighting Irish

who cares

Puddleduck

Oh thank God. I thought I was the only one who thought that.
It could just be that the whole thing was very surreal and towards the end it started to hit her, but yes, it seemed a little fake and orchastrated.

Dont even get me started on Ushers emotional display

jujujujuju

absolutely real
im sure the thought of speaking about her father in front of billions of people overwhelmed her, emotions were high, definitely real
brooke shields was insincere

paris is just a little girl for god sake!

shivvyban

Its not so much that I thought they were fake but that she was forced to say something.

Between Usher singing 'gone too soon' while walking towards the coffin with his hand out-stretched towards it (and then stroking it... SERIOUSLY!?!) and the woman from the house of representatives (can't remember her name) going on about what he did for the black nation (eh, changed his skin colour?) the whole thing seemed to me (not saying everyone could have felt this way) to have been a show, a propeganda piece, the Jackson family saying 'look we're ok'.

I got the impression that Janet was holding her at the mic. I'm sure it could have been a suportive touch of love but it did kinda look like (to me) a shove to speak out.

It just astounds me how four years ago someone could be branded as a paedophile and now he's a 'king' (the woman whose name I can't remember called him that about four times).

Sorry about the rant.

Clare Bear

Can an 11 year old have fake tears? I don't think they were fake but I do think she was pressurised in to saying it. Plus I really don't like the fact that he has spent all their lives trying to hide them from the public and now the whole world can see them, I doubt he'd be happy with that.

shivvyban

Clare Bear wrote: »

now the whole world can see them, I doubt he'd be happy with that.

I definitely agree!

is_that_so

Hmm. Daddy dies and an 11 year old child makes a calculated decision to bawl uncontrollably.Yep completely convinced. Has to be a set up. Some people really do have too much time on their hands.

Captain Slow IRL

Puddleduck wrote: »

...................Dont even get me started on Ushers emotional display

I didn't see it but was reading about it - did he start crying?!?! WTF?!

jellie

the only part of the whole thing i saw was the bit where she spoke saying her dad was the best dad in the world (or whatever she said), and to be honest it brought tears to my eyes. shes a little girl whos dad has died. to us hes michael jackson but to her hes just her dad. have a bit of sympathy!!

Puddleduck

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

I didn't see it but was reading about it - did he start crying?!?! WTF?!

Yea, he started walking towards the coffin and then did a really naff sob at the very end. Then went to his mother and knelt down in front of her talking.

Its not that I dont have sympathy for the kids, they lost their dad. I just wonder how close to their dad they were. We dont know if they were all that close and we are all aware that jackson was a bit weird.

Khannie

Didn't see it, but I'd be interested to know: Any of you who doubt her ever lost a parent?

smcgiff

Did people see tears ? I didn't, but if there were then they probably were for Michael, unless Janet was pinching her!

SeekUp

It's really rough to lose a parent. I can imagine it's worse so young, especially in front of billions of people. Things hit you when you don't expect, and when something does hit you, half the time you don't even know what it is.

I'd say she was overwhelmed with a lot of things happening right now, not least of which was the actual death of her father. And let's be honest -- none of the general public really knows how close they were to him.

So . . . be kind.

smcgiff

Khannie wrote: »

Didn't see it, but I'd be interested to know: Any of you who doubt her ever lost a parent?

There may be doubt he was an active parent. I don't think Michael was functioning all that well as a person, never mind as a care giver.

shivvyban

Khannie wrote: »

Didn't see it, but I'd be interested to know: Any of you who doubt her ever lost a parent?

SeekUp wrote: »

It's really rough to lose a parent. I can imagine it's worse so young, especially in front of billions of people.

I'm not doubting that she is hurting and that her tears were real, I just felt that she was pushed. Before she spoke it didn't even look like she wanted and then one of the brothers (not sure which one) said that she wanted to and she looked completely bewildered and seemed to have been held there. But then again we'll never really know... *shrugs*

shivvyban

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

I didn't see it but was reading about it - did he start crying?!?! WTF?!

When he started all I could think was 'don't, oh please don't touch the coffin...' and off he toddled to have a good rub of the silver... and for effect took off his sunglasses and rubbed his teary little eyes.... awww poor poor Usher... (half thought he was was going to break in 'yeah, yeah' in the middle of it... also half expected thriller to come on and Jacko to hop out of the coffin... would've been the best hoax ever! I need to get out more)

Khannie

smcgiff wrote: »

There may be doubt he was an active parent. I don't think Michael was functioning all that well as a person, never mind as a care giver.

Activity level's not going to mean a huge amount to a child. Daddy's dead.....now that means something.

Honestly....I think it's ****ty to question a child crying when her father's dead. How many people who never even knew the guy cried their eyes out?

Jules

moved from tLL.

mrsdewinter

I thought she could have been faking the tears at the end too. It doesn't take away from the sentiments she expressed or what she was feeling. I think if I had grown up in a home full of my ailing, (prescription) drug-addled father's hangers-on, I might - after my whole world had been torn apart - try to please the weird grown-ups caring for me by over-emoting a bit.

smooch71

Don't mean to sound bad but those kids are better off without him.

The one who turned my stomach was Brooke Shields with her artificial choking back the tears. Any wonder her movie career flopped. She couldn't act the eejit.

itsallaboutme!!

I have to say I thought she was forcing it a bit just before she stepped up to speak. she was standing next to Janet and I personally just thought she didnt really know how huge her fathers death was. But when she did speak they were genuine how could they not be really she's a child who has just lost her father.

As for ushers performance!!! I cringed when I realised that he was actually going to walk over and touch the coffin and then when he was finished he goes and outs his head onto Katherine Jacksons knee!!!!!

I also agree with previous posters who say MJ would not have been happy about the three kids being on stage like that. He spent their whole life trying to keep them out of the public eye and his family threw them right into the middle of it yesterday.

Amazotheamazing

When my father died I broke down and cried like a fool (or indeed, someone who'd just lost a parent), have to say I think there's pretty meanspirited posts on this thread. I thought it looked very real, the fact the microphone had to be adjusted for her and the fact that Janet had to tell to step closer to it etc.

Poor kid, she has some nerve to be upset at the death of her father....

el.bell

It must have been so hard for her being infront of millions (incl. TV), it looked real enough. I'd say real!!!

G86

Khannie wrote: »

Activity level's not going to mean a huge amount to a child. Daddy's dead.....now that means something.

Honestly....I think it's ****ty to question a child crying when her father's dead. How many people who never even knew the guy cried their eyes out?

I didn't mean to sound insincere, I was simply reiterating a conversation we were having in work, a few people did suggest it appeared very orchestrated - but I'm not saying I question how she felt - or how anyone would feel at the loss of a parent. The conversation just made me think, and I was interested to find out other opinions.

Above all, none of those children should have been put on that stage in the first place.

membama

your dad is a serious drug addict. Takes multiple drugs ALL the time including deprivan, demerol, morphine, paxil, etc... obviously he is in no mental state to be a father. I mean, how could he if he is f'ed up all day. Also, when he died... where were the kids? were they with him? NO. He was with his live-in doctor. If someone is telling me that this guy was an actual father to these children, then I'm saying your FOS. NOW, about the lil girl crying... yes, it was staged. the Jackson's have leeched off of Michael and continue to do so. It was a known fact that he didn't trust his family... He wouldn't tour with the Jackson 5. His brothers, Randy and Jermaine, wanted to be involved in Michael's business but Michael wouldn't let them. The Co-executors of his will are his longtime business partners... he didn't leave any control to his family EXCEPT his 80 year old mother. The Jackson's propped his so-called daughter up on stage to say that. They are going to live off of Michael Jackson for the rest of their lives. Wacko Jacko was a freak!! His family is just as bad. What a shame that those children were sold to Michael when he isn't thier biological father AND he never adopted them.

JP Liz

I wondered was she pushed into doing something by Jackson's family - some parts seemed very staged and i didnt see much tears to be honest

Dave147

A friend of mine committed suicide in April, when my dad rang me I asked was he sure and was it the right person etc, when I was sure I said OK and hung up the phone. I was with the girlfriend watching a movie and I explained what happened. I just sat there emotionless for about 5 minutes. When I started thinking about the buddy that's when the tears started and I just turned away from her and couldn't stop crying.

Death can make you feel very numb and you can just burst into tears all of a sudden when you think of that person and a time you were together, I'm actually welling up now just thinking about it. Same happened when my grandmother died, I didn't shed a tear until her funeral when I started thinking.

chocgirl

Come on, she's a little girl, her father's just died! There's a lot of very cynical people out there.

Don't think she should have been put up there though.

dvr22

thanks god i am not crazy, i am not the only one.
i have been going tru all the videos, interviews from family members, sisters, brothers, kids etc since michael jackson died. in not one of the videos i can see anyone crying. people told me, that after a week the biggest shock has passed and one wouldnt have any tears left to cry. so i went back to the video of jermaine, when he announces the death of his brother. just an hour or so after he "passed" away. yes, there is a lot of sobbing and gasping for breath with the pain and "tears", BUT...you show me one tear coming out of his eye. 3 days after he "died", go and watch janet jackson at the award. again, its so hard to talk, and such a hard time and gasping for breath and taking breaks with the pain she is going tru...where r the freaking tears? why is it, that yesterday at his memorial service, everyone crushed that little girl between them, held the micro in front of her face tat one cant see her face anymore? when she has the final "breakdown" her face is rushed in the arms of her auntie!!! i mean come one, look at the fianl speech of his brother at the service, watch the faces of his mourning family members in the final seconds, when he finally "breaks down". no one will convince me that i am not seeing a glimpse of a smile on at least 2 people on the right site of the screen!
i have heard about the theory that MJ might not be death. since i saw this SHOW yesterday, i am convinced he isnt and to tell the honest truth, i wish wherever he is, he is happy now. he can finally breath and live and enjoy life.
If he is really death, his family are really bad actors!

MelanieC

I'm cynical about all things show-biz at the best of times but jesus, have a heart.
She's just a little girl and he was her daddy.

logitech456

I agree with the last post

Salome

From what I've read recently regarding Michael Jackson's visits to Ireland in the last few years, his children were with him and they were extremely well behaved and polite - well brought up and happy in their father's company. He spent a lot of time with them so there's no doubt in my mind, last night's tears from Paris were typical of an 11 year old child who had lost the only parent she had ever known, totally genuine and heartfelt.

As for his siblings and father - complete hangers-on who deserve no one's sympathy.

And DON'T get me started on Usher :rolleyes:.

JonathanAnon

MelanieC wrote: »

I'm cynical about all things show-biz at the best of times but jesus, have a heart. She's just a little girl and he was her daddy.

Best post of the thread. Whether it was staged or not, just let him rest in peace and leave his daughter alone.

Michael Jackson got similar treatment to all these people who are currently suing the state post Ryan Report. Michael seemed like a nice guy, but he was seriously abused by his father and the media, and this manifested itself in his erratic behaviour.

SOUTH PAW

Really finding it very hard to believe and a tad speechless such an insensitive question has been asked(Real or Fake) of an 11 year old child that has just lost her Father the only parent she has really ever known no matter who he was.......very sad:(

PotatoChipJr

G86 wrote: »

Did anyone see Paris's wee breakdown at the funeral? I'm not entirely convinced that it was genuine to be honest. She was standing there completely composed for a good while and then suddenly she bursts into tears?

I'm not saying I'm right, the girl could have been genuinely in bits, I'm just not wild sure - what do ye make of it?

I don't believe for one minute that an 11 year old can fake emotion like that. frankly who cares if you're not convinced? who has to convince you for approval anyways?:mad:

merlie

I felt that Michaels family were pushing her a little bit to say something. Janet said to her 'Speak up'and she seemed more upset. It is hard to tell if she was genuinely upset or if she was scared for some reason. It was probably a mixture of both

lindybops

my mam died in 1992 i was 22 but my sister and brother was 5 and 8 respectfully now they cant really remember her much. only little things it is very sad. but that little girl paris and her brothers will have plenty to remember there daddy by. but at the end of the day those 3 little souls will cry at night for there daddy no matter how famous he was and there is no way on this earth that little girl had that lovely speach ready it was the spur of the moment and she said it beautifully. the poor kids have enough crap ahead of them now, just hope there kept together. bless them

White_Feather

Clare Bear wrote: »

Can an 11 year old have fake tears? I don't think they were fake but I do think she was pressurised in to saying it. Plus I really don't like the fact that he has spent all their lives trying to hide them from the public and now the whole world can see them, I doubt he'd be happy with that.

Im just back from NY this morning and it was on every single station over there yesterday and last night there were documentaries on every station too so I had no choice but to watch one. MJ's ex wife Debbie Rowe was on saying that it wasn't MJ who wanted the kids faces covered, it was her and it was the only condition she made to him as she didnt want the paps to hassle them. You dont know who is bull*hitting really, cause his youngest kid had to wear them too.

As for whether the tears were fake? She is eleven. My heart went out to the three kids yesterday. The just lost their dad. They really have no parents now, because their mother never really had anything to do with them! Found it a bit weird how the youngest little kid was clutching a doll of MJ!:(

Podman

Whatever you can say about Michael, there was always someone around him ready to get their pound of flesh. Are we all going to be part of the same problem for the little kids? Their probably in shock, wouldn't you be?

It's easy to take a dig at someone, especially when they are 11.
It's hard to lose your dad.

Leave the kids alone.

watna

Fighting Irish wrote: »

who cares

I know this was moved from tll so I won't be doing anything with is but just to point out that comments like this are not tolerated in Celeb and Showbiz., for future reference.

I actual thought her crying was very genuine and I felt quite moved by it. I though the way she started crying and then turned to Janet Jackson was quite normal - that we would collapse on her aunt for support.

What I got from the service is that he may have been very strange in many of his choices but just like the rest of us he had a funeral were people stood up and said they would miss him. By that, I mean his family and close friends. All the singing tributes were a bit over the top but I found the fact that his family and close friends (e.g. Brooke Shields) gave normal funeral type speeches reassuringly normal.

She was an 11 year old girl that lost her daddy. Regardless of what kind of life they've had he was still her daddy and I think she was genuinely heartbroken ans obviously loved him very much.

xzanti

I can't see how they could be fake cause it's her dad... But I can see where they OP is coming from.. I've heard it repeated on the radio and it does sound quite forced.. I'm sure the child is heart broken but maybe she felt numb in the moment but felt it was expected of her to break down?? just a theory.. Who knows..

speedboatchase

I realise some people hate MJ but to suggest an 11 year old has "fake tears" at their dad's funeral is astonishing to me. Please OP, stop reading the rags and endless speculation and just use a bit of common sense and don't espouse such ridiculously disrespectful views, imagine saying that at a local funeral about the deceased family?

snowy2008

Khannie wrote: »

Didn't see it, but I'd be interested to know: Any of you who doubt her ever lost a parent?

yeah my dad died in january and my mam is seriously i'll at the moment so were all at home to be with her, i know how that little girl feels, its like your heart gets ripped apart, you just learn to live with it, poor little girl

super_furry

Sweet Jesus. How bloody cynical are you people that you could believe a child is faking emotion over her father's death?

Step away from the tabloid magazines.

IvyTheTerrible

I think it's ridiculous to suggest that she faked her tears just because she did confirm to our ideas of what grief should be like.

My brother died nearly three weeks ago. By the day of the removal and funeral I was almost completely "cried out" and just numb with grief. I cried a bit, at particularly poignant parts of the funeral (when his friends spoke about him etc). But I just couldn't cry the whole way through. And some people had the cheek to say at the removal to us that we were "taking it so well"!

Michael Jackson died, what, nearly 3 weeks ago? I would say it was normal then that she didn't cry the whole way through the funeral, but reading the speech could do it. It doesn't make her grief any less real.

shivvyban

I said before that I don't think she faked tears or that her feelings weren't genuine. I feel for all the children having lost such an important person in their lives, as I feel for anyone who that happens to. I simply think that the older Jackson's played on this. I re-watched that part of it last night just to make sure and I still have the same opinion on the matter.

Even going back to his dad. When asked what the family was doing (right after MJ died) his dad started bigging up his new record label - there's a reason he was cut out of the will.

As for Janet doing some of the concerts, for the last couple of years she has only been known for a boob accident at the Superbowl and her weight gain/loss.

I don't think that whether or not her grief was genuine is really the issue - more so the motivation of the Jackson's to allow, after all the years of being hidden by their father, to bring them up on to a world stage in front of millions of people. (This is my opinion, no-one has to agree with me)

Their father is dead and so their lives have changed but now that their faces are known, those children will have to bear the burden of their father's fame for the rest of their lives.

baileyjackson

jujujujuju wrote: »

absolutely real
im sure the thought of speaking about her father in front of billions of people overwhelmed her, emotions were high, definitely real
brooke shields was insincere

paris is just a little girl for god sake!

You are spot on. Of course she was sincere. SHES A LITTLE GIRL FF'S!! She just lost her father! Sometimes I question the Irish people. Do we always have to be so cynical and harsh?? Imagine how overwhelming it is to lose your father, who is known as a superstar, having all the legal/media trouble and having a funeral that is comparable to any big budget award show!! Have an ounce of Respect for the children people, I dont care about MJ!

Chocoholic84

sar84 wrote: »

shes a little girl whos dad has died. to us hes michael jackson but to her hes just her dad. have a bit of sympathy!!

Dead on!

I think this might be the most pointless thread I've ever seen.

poms

G86 wrote: »

Did anyone see Paris's wee breakdown at the funeral? I'm not entirely convinced that it was genuine to be honest. She was standing there completely composed for a good while and then suddenly she bursts into tears?

I'm not saying I'm right, the girl could have been genuinely in bits, I'm just not wild sure - what do ye make of it?

Are you serious?? This is a child that has lost her dad and all you can ask is, is she faking? If a little girl you knew of that age lost her dad and at the funeral started to cry, would you doubt it? C'mon seriously???!!

Figerty

I think you have summed this up very well. I wish people would stop hyper analysising some one elses funeral from a different culture.

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

I think it's ridiculous to suggest that she faked her tears just because she did confirm to our ideas of what grief should be like.

My brother died nearly three weeks ago. By the day of the removal and funeral I was almost completely "cried out" and just numb with grief. I cried a bit, at particularly poignant parts of the funeral (when his friends spoke about him etc). But I just couldn't cry the whole way through. And some people had the cheek to say at the removal to us that we were "taking it so well"!

Michael Jackson died, what, nearly 3 weeks ago? I would say it was normal then that she didn't cry the whole way through the funeral, but reading the speech could do it. It doesn't make her grief any less real.