Qualifers Rd 2

paddy978

Whats the venues?
Neutral or provincial semis at home or rd1 winners at home?

DC_Roscommon

Is it an open draw? Or do the provincial semi finalists meet the round 1 winners?

paddy978

DC_Roscommon wrote: »

Is it an open draw? Or do the provincial semi finalists meet the round 1 winners?

yes

DC_Roscommon

yes to which?

DonkeyPokerTour

Round 1 winners vs Provincial Semifinalists

Not sure on venue's

smashey

Round 1 winners v Provincial semi-finalists. Venues will be decided by the toss of a coin at Croke Park on Monday.

lynner83

congrats to the men of wicklow, draw with take place monday 5th but just wondered if they are scheduled for the weekend of the 11th july ?
on hols and really dont want to miss!!

smashey

lynner83 wrote: »

congrats to the men of wicklow, draw with take place monday 5th but just wondered if they are scheduled for the weekend of the 11th july ?
on hols and really dont want to miss!!

As far as I know, all matches are scheduled for next weekend.

Flukey

lynner83 wrote: »

congrats to the men of wicklow, draw with take place monday 5th but just wondered if they are scheduled for the weekend of the 11th july ?
on hols and really dont want to miss!!

Get your priorities right. Cancel your holidays. Put it this way: There is more chance of you lying on a beach somewhere wondering what is happening in an important match, than you being at an important match wondering what is happening on some beach.

blackbelt

Flukey wrote: »

Get your priorities right. Cancel your holidays. Put it this way: There is more chance of you lying on a beach somewhere wondering what is happening in an important match, than you being at an important match wondering what is happening on some beach.

FAIL.

netwhizkid

Qualifiers Round Two

First team out have home advantage

Down V Laois

Monaghan V Derry

Longford V Kerry

Wexford V Roscommon

Tipperary V Sligo

Donegal V Clare

Westmeath V Meath

Wicklow V Cavan

cruiserweight

netwhizkid wrote: »

Qualifiers Round Two

First team out have home advantage

Down V Laois

Monaghan V Derry

Longford V Kerry

Wexford V Roscommon

Tipperary V Sligo

Donegal V Clare

Westmeath V Meath

Wicklow V Cavan

Some interesing ties in there, local derby in Westmeath vs Wicklow, a re-match of the game that started the Kerry road to recovery a few years ago in Kerry vs Longford and Derry vs Monaghan.

Of course the big game will be Wexford vs Roscommon

DonkeyPokerTour

netwhizkid wrote: »

Qualifiers Round Two

First team out have home advantage

Down V Laois

Monaghan V Derry

Longford V Kerry

Wexford V Roscommon

Tipperary V Sligo

Donegal V Clare

Westmeath V Meath

Wicklow V Cavan

As a Wicklow man, I'm happy enough with the draw (better than getting Kerry). What surprised me was that of the 8 games 7 of the home teams played in Round 1!

ergo

fair play to Wicklow!

am in exile in England - was at a function type thing last night in UK so couldn't get to the game - when I didn't get any text from the brother I presumed it was bad news - couldn't believe when I logged on this morning that we beat Fermanagh

so all these games gonna be at 7pm next Saturday ? may have to make the trip

Westmeath-Meath an interesting one too

....and thank God we avoided Kerry

smashey

Monaghan V Derry

The GAA Gods are intent on making Monaghan work hard for progress.

Donegal V Clare

I'm happy with that.

delta_bravo

If RTE show the Monaghan Derry game ill tear my eyes out, ive had enough of 100 frees a game Ulster football

AMixedBag

delta_bravo wrote: »

If RTE show the Monaghan Derry game ill tear my eyes out, ive had enough of 100 frees a game Ulster football

Oh don't worry.. I'm expecting the Donegal Vs. Clare match to be telivised:D
Well actually no.. you will probably have to start tearing those eyes out to be honest.
Ill miss you.

TheSpecialOne

Do Monaghan have any luck...ive never seen such hard draws for the one team over a number of years eg kerry,kerry,donegal,derry,armagh and now derry again!thats ridiculous!....o btw best of luck wicklow lovin' ye!

davestar

delta_bravo wrote: »

If RTE show the Monaghan Derry game ill tear my eyes out, ive had enough of 100 frees a game Ulster football

i think your speaking for all of us outside ulster .

AMixedBag

TheSpecialOne wrote: »

Do Monaghan have any luck...ive never seen such hard draws for the one team over a number of years eg kerry,kerry,donegal,derry,armagh and now derry again!thats ridiculous!....o btw best of luck wicklow lovin' ye!

Ba ba ba ba ba, I'm luvin' it.
Sorry, just couldn't resist.
:pac:

netwhizkid

Presumably Kerry and Longford won't be televised leaving me with a 400+mile round trip up to Pearse Park, the distance not being the problem but the third world standard roads through the midlands. Grrrrr

homerjay2005

kerry v longford and derry v monaghan will be the 2 televised games IMO. tough one for us, wil be hard to go up there and win but i think we can do it.

Orizio

Why the hell would they show Kerry/Longford? It would be a joke if they did, it will be a guaranteed massacre.

LeoB

Some really good games in Rd 2.
I go for
Down to beat Laoise
Derry
Kerry
Wexford
Tipp
Donegal
Meath
Wicklow.

Great to see Wicklow getting a big enough scalp last week. Can only be good for the game if they get another. Wexford have a good chance to pick up another win while Tipp have a really good chance of taking Sligo. Hope I get the Meath forecast wrong;)

ArmaniJeanss

DonkeyPokerTour wrote: »

What surprised me was that of the 8 games 7 of the home teams played in Round 1!

You wouldn't be that surprised if you'd seen the way the 'draw' for home advantage was done.
It wasn't corrupt or anything, just a total fail at being randon.

Stooge A picked a ball from Pot 1 (The R1 winners), and placed it in Pot 3.
Stooge B picked a ball from Pot 2 (The losing SFs) and placed it in Pot 3.

Stooge A then did the 'randomizing' process, which involved moving the balls in pot 3 a full 360% before picking the nearest one to him for home advantage.

Craig Dowling

come on the royals
im happy with that draw meath actually have a chance of beating westmeath

K-9

smashey wrote: »

The GAA Gods are intent on making Monaghan work hard for progress.

Definitely. Derry and Donegal last year, Armagh and Derry this year. Kerry in 2 Q/F's too.

Hard one to call. Doherty back will be a massive help but so will Freeman. I'd have to fancy Derry, but it will be tight.

Hope it's a clean game beacause the last game tarnished what was a decent Ulster Championship this year and last. People see the exception and apply it to Ulster.

Smashey wrote:

I'm happy with that.

Hard to know. A relatively easy draw suited us in 03 I suppose. After this I think it's Leinster/Connacht losers/Limerick, assuming Antrim lose, so not sure if an easy draw is that good.

Orizio wrote: »

Why the hell would they show Kerry/Longford? It would be a joke if they did, it will be a guaranteed massacre.

TV3 have first pick so maybe RTE will show another game. Maybe bring forward the Monghan Derry match and show Kerry. Though I'm sure some will moan about a late kick off!


Down V. Laois. Hard to call. Both have been poor. Down by 2.

Monaghan V. Derry. Derry by 2

Longford V. Kerry. Kerry by 5.

Wexford V. Roscommon. Who knows? Wexford by 4.

Tipp V. Sligo. Hard to know. Tipp by 3.

Donegal V. Clare. Donegal by 9.

Westmeath V. Meath. Westmeath by 2.

Wicklow V. Cavan. Hard to call. Draw. Cavan in Extra time.

Warper

I dont know what they are showing yet but there are 2 hurling qualifiers on next Sat too and they have to show the Clare v Galway hurling match.

blackbelt

Have to say I am disappointed that Kerry didn't get Monaghan or Derry.Instead Kerry will motor on with a comfortable win over Longford no matter how Homerjay wants to talk Longford up of putting up a big challenge.I'll eat a straw hat if that happens.

We'll all have to suffer another mish-mash game between Monaghan and Derry that will culminate in more suspensions and the football purist wondering when there will be good competitive games televised.

I think they should televise Westmeath v Meath.Sure these two teams are far from great but they both play football..pure football and it is a derby.Other game should be Kerry v Longford.

I see wins for Kerry,Sligo,Meath,Wicklow,Down,Donegal,Wexford and Derry.

ergo

TheSpecialOne wrote: »

Do Monaghan have any luck...ive never seen such hard draws for the one team over a number of years eg kerry,kerry,donegal,derry,armagh and now derry again!thats ridiculous!....o btw best of luck wicklow lovin' ye!

don't forget 2006 - Monaghan got Wicklow at home in the first round of the qualifiers (or correct me if I'm wrong) - I was a bit late getting up to that game - think Monaghan had got 3 goals by the time I arrived :eek:

K-9

Warper wrote: »

I dont know what they are showing yet but there are 2 hurling qualifiers on next Sat too and they have to show the Clare v Galway hurling match.

Is Clare Galway in the evening? Maybe Kerry during the day as it will silence the travelling moaners too? :eek:

And Derry Monaghan at 7. TV3 mighn't be too happy!

blackbelt wrote: »

Have to say I am disappointed that Kerry didn't get Monaghan or Derry.Instead Kerry will motor on with a comfortable win over Longford no matter how Homerjay wants to talk Longford up of putting up a big challenge.I'll eat a straw hat if that happens.

We'll all have to suffer another mish-mash game between Monaghan and Derry that will culminate in more suspensions and the football purist wondering when there will be good competitive games televised.

I think they should televise Westmeath v Meath.Sure these two teams are far from great but they both play football..pure football and it is a derby.Other game should be Kerry v Longford.

I see wins for Kerry,Sligo,Meath,Wicklow,Down,Donegal,Wexford and Derry.

Maybe a Monaghan would have been better for them? They'll probably end up with Antrim after that, though I think Antrim would give them a right go, maybe more so than say Mayo or Kildare.

On Monghan Derry, it really is up to Derry. Derry don't need to go down to that level, Monaghan need them too.

The only real mismatch is Donegal Clare and no doubt I'll eat my words on that.

Any word on what Bonnar and Gallagher were up to? Bonnar apparently suspended from Glenswilly and Gallagher warned?

Orizio

blackbelt wrote: »

Have to say I am disappointed that Kerry didn't get Monaghan or Derry.Instead Kerry will motor on with a comfortable win over Longford no matter how Homerjay wants to talk Longford up of putting up a big challenge.I'll eat a straw hat if that happens.

We'll all have to suffer another mish-mash game between Monaghan and Derry that will culminate in more suspensions and the football purist wondering when there will be good competitive games televised.

I think they should televise Westmeath v Meath.Sure these two teams are far from great but they both play football..pure football and it is a derby.Other game should be Kerry v Longford.

I see wins for Kerry,Sligo,Meath,Wicklow,Down,Donegal,Wexford and Derry.

I hate when people do that.

davestar

Orizio wrote: »

I hate when people do that.

do what lol .

AMixedBag

Orizio wrote: »

I hate when people do that.

yeah! Sure, your as optimistic as a rainbow (not a great comparison!) so obviously you would hate that. If im being correct in saying that you hate when people bash counties before the game has even played?

Orizio

No, I hate it when people shamelessly play up their team's opposition in an attempt to appease the mocker gods. Its taking the piss really.

AMixedBag

Orizio wrote: »

No, I hate it when people shamelessly play up their team's opposition in an attempt to appease the mocker gods. Its taking the piss really.

ah damn it. So close.

shiibata

K-9 wrote: »

Hard to know. A relatively easy draw suited us in 03 I suppose. After this I think it's Leinster/Connacht losers/Limerick, assuming Antrim lose, so not sure if an easy draw is that good.

Dont think its the provincial losers yet in next round, would think the 8 winners in round 2 will be drawn against each other in round 3 and the 4 winners from that up against the provincial losers in round 4.

Lemlin

Cavan's championship ends here. No matter how I look at it I can't see Cavan getting a result against a well-drilled Wicklow team. Fair play to Wicklow though, Micko is working wonders and this could lead to a good run for them. How much I'd love it if he arrived in cavan but I think even he realises there's nothing there to work with.

I'd say all of about ten Cavan people will travel down to Aughrim.

I think Monaghan and Derry should have been redrawn. Its stupid to have two teams who have already played each other playing each other again this early in the qualifers.

That said, the GAA never want the good Ulster teams dominating the championship so Ulster teams are always drawn against each other early in the qualifers.

Also, surely the provincial semi-finalists should have gotten home drawns as a reward for reaching that round of the championship?

deisedude

My predictions are:

Down V Laois -Laois got hammered by Kildare, Down made hard work of London. Tough one to call, both quite bad at the moment. I'l reluctantly go for Down

Monaghan V Derry- I fancy Monaghan to avenge their loss to Derry in a war of attrition.

Longford V Kerry- Kerry comfortably

Wexford V Roscommon- I think Wexford even without Mattie Forde should have enough for Roscommon by a point or 2

Tipperary V Sligo- Sligo should have beat Galway and i'd fancy them against a fast improving Tipp team. If they can keep Grogan relatively quite they should be ok

Donegal V Clare- Donegal are getting quite lucky with the draw IMO. Another Div 4 team. Donegal may not be in great form but you would imagine they could still put Clare to the sword

Westmeath V Meath- Westmeath could get another trimming here from their neighbours

Wicklow V Cavan- Gut feeling for Cavan.

shiibata

Lemlin wrote: »

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I think Monaghan and Derry should have been redrawn. Its stupid to have two teams who have already played each other playing each other again this early in the qualifers.

That said, the GAA never want the good Ulster teams dominating the championship so Ulster teams are always drawn against each other early in the qualifers.

It is amazing the amount of times Ulster teams clash in the qualifiers. It was nearly so predictable that Derry were going to get Donegal or Monaghan.

Interyurauldone

Orizio wrote: »

No, I hate it when people shamelessly play up their team's opposition in an attempt to appease the mocker gods. Its taking the piss really.

You mean giving respect to your opposition? Nothing shameless about that.

Longford beat Kerry in longford 3 years ago, it's a tight pitch and it's 15 v 15.

Remember 2006 Laois beat tyrone by 3 points in......wait for it...Round 2 of the qualifiers. Who saw that coming? "aghh but laois were a better team at the time then Longford are now" i hear u say?? I say "don't mind that!!"

Kerry should win on saturday but longford will be there or there abouts going into the final 10 minutes.

DonkeyPokerTour

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

You wouldn't be that surprised if you'd seen the way the 'draw' for home advantage was done.
It wasn't corrupt or anything, just a total fail at being randon.

Stooge A picked a ball from Pot 1 (The R1 winners), and placed it in Pot 3.
Stooge B picked a ball from Pot 2 (The losing SFs) and placed it in Pot 3.

Stooge A then did the 'randomizing' process, which involved moving the balls in pot 3 a full 360% before picking the nearest one to him for home advantage.

I seen the draw, it looked "Dodgy" but its still surprising that it was so one sided! When Wicklow hadn't come out until the last one I was convinced that we'd be drawn away!

Regards
Ian

Lemlin

shiibata wrote: »

It is amazing the amount of times Ulster teams clash in the qualifiers. It was nearly so predictable that Derry were going to get Donegal or Monaghan.

It happens every year. The Ulster teams would dominate the qualifers otherwise. Derry, Monaghan and Armagh would beat the bulk of teams in the qualifers. The GAA don't want four or five Ulster teams in the quarter finals come the semis though so the big Ulster sides are always drawn against each other early in the qualifers.

careca

Lemlin wrote: »

It happens every year. The Ulster teams would dominate the qualifers otherwise. Derry, Monaghan and Armagh would beat the bulk of teams in the qualifers. The GAA don't want four or five Ulster teams in the quarter finals come the semis though so the big Ulster sides are always drawn against each other early in the qualifers.

LOL

AMixedBag

After yesterdays finals in the hurling and football, im not taking any team for granted.

careca

Lemlin wrote: »

It happens every year. The Ulster teams would dominate the qualifers otherwise. Derry, Monaghan and Armagh would beat the bulk of teams in the qualifers. The GAA don't want four or five Ulster teams in the quarter finals come the semis though so the big Ulster sides are always drawn against each other early in the qualifers.

Here are last year's qualifiers.

03.08.2008 Football Qualifiers QF Kerry 1-13 Monaghan 0-13 Details
03.08.2008 Football Qualifiers QF Fermanagh 0-5 Kildare 0-11 Details
02.08.2008 Football Qualifiers QF Mayo 1-9 Tyrone 0-13 Details
02.08.2008 Football Qualifiers QF Wexford 2-13 Down 0-12 Details
26.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L16 Donegal 0-15 Monaghan 0-16 Details
26.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L16 Tyrone 0-14 Westmeath 1-7 Details
26.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L16 Limerick 0-11 Kildare 1-11 Details
26.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L16 Laois 1-15 Down 2-14 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Limerick 4-12 Meath 4-3 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Longford 0-11 Laois 1-10 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Kildare 1-16 Cavan 1-15 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Offaly 2-10 Down 5-19 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Louth 1-9 Tyrone 1-17 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Tipperary 0-6 Westmeath 0-15 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Donegal 3-11 Roscommon 1-9 Details


If it 'happens every year' why didn't it happen last year ??
In the last 32 qualifiers, no northern teams were drawn against each other, in the last 16 two were, and none from that stage on.

shiibata

careca wrote: »

Here are last year's qualifiers.

03.08.2008 Football Qualifiers QF Kerry 1-13 Monaghan 0-13 Details
03.08.2008 Football Qualifiers QF Fermanagh 0-5 Kildare 0-11 Details
02.08.2008 Football Qualifiers QF Mayo 1-9 Tyrone 0-13 Details
02.08.2008 Football Qualifiers QF Wexford 2-13 Down 0-12 Details
26.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L16 Donegal 0-15 Monaghan 0-16 Details
26.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L16 Tyrone 0-14 Westmeath 1-7 Details
26.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L16 Limerick 0-11 Kildare 1-11 Details
26.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L16 Laois 1-15 Down 2-14 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Limerick 4-12 Meath 4-3 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Longford 0-11 Laois 1-10 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Kildare 1-16 Cavan 1-15 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Offaly 2-10 Down 5-19 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Louth 1-9 Tyrone 1-17 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Tipperary 0-6 Westmeath 0-15 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Donegal 3-11 Roscommon 1-9 Details


If it 'happens every year' why didn't it happen last year ??
In the last 32 qualifiers, no northern teams were drawn against each other, in the last 16 two were, and none from that stage on.

In the last 32 last year, Derry met Monaghan which is not in above list

K-9

careca wrote: »

Here are last year's qualifiers.

03.08.2008 Football Qualifiers QF Kerry 1-13 Monaghan 0-13 Details
03.08.2008 Football Qualifiers QF Fermanagh 0-5 Kildare 0-11 Details
02.08.2008 Football Qualifiers QF Mayo 1-9 Tyrone 0-13 Details
02.08.2008 Football Qualifiers QF Wexford 2-13 Down 0-12 Details
26.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L16 Donegal 0-15 Monaghan 0-16 Details
26.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L16 Tyrone 0-14 Westmeath 1-7 Details
26.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L16 Limerick 0-11 Kildare 1-11 Details
26.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L16 Laois 1-15 Down 2-14 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Limerick 4-12 Meath 4-3 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Longford 0-11 Laois 1-10 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Kildare 1-16 Cavan 1-15 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Offaly 2-10 Down 5-19 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Louth 1-9 Tyrone 1-17 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Tipperary 0-6 Westmeath 0-15 Details
19.07.2008 Football Qualifiers L32 Donegal 3-11 Roscommon 1-9 Details


If it 'happens every year' why didn't it happen last year ??
In the last 32 qualifiers, no northern teams were drawn against each other, in the last 16 two were, and none from that stage on.

I thought Monaghan played Derry last year and the winners then played surprise, surprise, Donegal in the next round.

This year Monaghan played Armagh and surprise, surprise the winners play Derry.

Seems a handy way to get rid of 2 good Ulster sides!

Dools2007

Anyone know what time the venues / times are being confirmed?

Cheers.

careca

Dools2007 wrote: »

Anyone know what time the venues / times are being confirmed?

Cheers.

Just the one I'm afraid. Longford V Kerry is 5pm on Saturday and its live on TV3.

Edit to say Pearse Park, Longford Town.

careca

^^^^

Fair enough, the site I got that from didn't have that match in, but its hardly enough to start a conspiracy theory over.