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Can a UK bus pass be used in ireland?

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  • 04-07-2009 1:50pm
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    snaps
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    Just wondering, Ive family coming over from the UK on holiday, they have UK bus passes, can they be used here on the national/local network?


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    Carroller16
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    Most definitely not i would say


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    df1985
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    as much chance as it workin in france.WE ARE A DIFFERENT COUNTRY.


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    snaps
    Registered Users Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    yeah i do know, but being part of europe etc. Im sure Irish bus passes are valid in NI?


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    snaps
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    df1985 wrote: »
    WE ARE A DIFFERENT COUNTRY.

    Really?


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    bazzer
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    snaps wrote: »
    yeah i do know, but being part of europe etc. Im sure Irish bus passes are valid in NI?

    That's just a reciprocal arrangement between the two respective Social Welfare departments operating in both jurisdictions on the island of Ireland. There are no other such arrangements with any other states, in Europe or elsewhere.


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    slimjimmc
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    bazzer wrote: »
    That's just a reciprocal arrangement between the two respective Social Welfare departments operating in both jurisdictions on the island of Ireland. There are no other such arrangements with any other states, in Europe or elsewhere.


    Correct and to available of it you have to apply for a Senior SmartPass even if you already hold a Free Travel Pass. Without it you can't use free travel in the other jurisdiction. The OP's relatives would need proof of residency in NI in order to apply.


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    corktina
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    clue in the title.... UK bus pass:)


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    slimjimmc
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    corktina wrote: »
    clue in the title.... UK bus pass
    Your point? there's already a free travel scheme between Ireland and a part of the UK so the OP's question is perfectly valid.


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    corktina
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    chilll out dude...see the smilie....


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    CDfm
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    slimjimmc wrote: »
    Your point? there's already a free travel scheme between Ireland and a part of the UK so the OP's question is perfectly valid.

    The scheme has an extension which is between Northern Ireland and Southern only so it applies to the island of Ireland.

    Cant see many NI pensioners using it cos the drink and eating out prices are so cheap.

    Now for pensioners from the South its a great deal.

    Grannys Booze Run.


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    Terrontress
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    That is all for free travel. What about an Oyster? If you had a pay as you go Oyster could you use it to pay on to the DART and if so, what rate do they do the conversion?


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    L1011
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    Terrontress wrote: »
    That is all for free travel. What about an Oyster? If you had a pay as you go Oyster could you use it to pay on to the DART and if so, what rate do they do the conversion?

    If we had a proper standardised purse based smartcard there would only be some relatively minor implementation hurdles to make that work actually. Not the best thing to use as an analogy!


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    slimjimmc
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    CDfm wrote: »
    The scheme has an extension which is between Northern Ireland and Southern only so it applies to the island of Ireland.
    I know, that's why I said 'part of the UK'.:D
    CDfm wrote: »
    Cant see many NI pensioners using it cos the drink and eating out prices are so cheap.
    Football matches, rock concerts, visit dead relatives, skinny dipping :eek: in Costa del Sunny (ok, less rainy) South East.

    Now for pensioners from the South its a great deal.

    Grannys Booze Run.
    Ahhh, long live the granny, may she keep our drinks cabinet full for many years to come.


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    jahalpin
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    Terrontress wrote: »
    That is all for free travel. What about an Oyster? If you had a pay as you go Oyster could you use it to pay on to the DART and if so, what rate do they do the conversion?

    The Oyster cards only work within the London zonal areas. They do not work in any other areas in the UK or in any other country


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    Terrontress
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    jahalpin wrote: »
    The Oyster cards only work within the London zonal areas. They do not work in any other areas in the UK or in any other country

    What about in Scotland?


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    CDfm
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    slimjimmc wrote: »
    Ahhh, long live the granny, may she keep our drinks cabinet full for many years to come.

    Do you still have the Granny Booze Busses from the South to NI?


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    slimjimmc
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    They sure do, in fact I know of one going today to Newry.


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    KC61
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    Terrontress wrote: »
    What about in Scotland?

    Oyster is a TfL product - i.e. it is only valid in London!!!!


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    CDfm
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    slimjimmc wrote: »
    They sure do, in fact I know of one going today to Newry.

    They have their own website Granny Takes a Trip a boutique and everything= its a statement

    http://images.google.ie/images?hl=en&q=granny+takes+a+trip&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=vO1PSv_SBKLMjAetqbhE&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4


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    Run_to_da_hills
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    No doubt in the near future with the roll out of smart card technology and e borders the one card will do all. In this way the authorities can keep track of everyones movements irrespective of what country they are in. :eek:


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    Hogzy
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    Well my GF's father works for CIE and their family gets free bus and rail travel in Ireland, free Swansea ferries as a pedestrian and free London Underground...RANDOM!!!


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    KC61
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    Hogzy wrote: »
    Well my GF's father works for CIE and their family gets free bus and rail travel in Ireland, free Swansea ferries as a pedestrian and free London Underground...RANDOM!!!

    Ah but that's different...

    There has always been the option for railway staff to get discounted/free travel on European railway operators' services...


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    fh041205
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    Hogzy wrote: »
    free bus and rail travel in Ireland

    Thats sounds strange to me. I never heard of anyone having free bus AND rail travel. I thought it was one or the other.


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    Hogzy
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    fh041205 wrote: »
    Thats sounds strange to me. I never heard of anyone having free bus AND rail travel. I thought it was one or the other.

    Oh maybe it is, i was just making the point she can use the London Underground for free despite being in Ireland!!


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    Terrontress
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    KC61 wrote: »
    Oyster is a TfL product - i.e. it is only valid in London!!!!

    Ok so in England then. What about Manchester?


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    L1011
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    Hogzy wrote: »
    Well my GF's father works for CIE and their family gets free bus and rail travel in Ireland, free Swansea ferries as a pedestrian and free London Underground...RANDOM!!!

    That'd be the Swansea ferry that doesn't run any more then? ;)


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    KC61
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    Terrontress wrote: »
    Ok so in England then. What about Manchester?

    Eh how else do I put this - Oyster works in London ONLY!!!!!

    There are National Railcards for older people that allow discounts, but no smartcards.

    There is no inter-operability between Oyster and any other transport operator anywhere outside of London. It is stand-alone in London.


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    Terrontress
    Registered Users Posts: 3,888 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    KC61 wrote: »
    Eh how else do I put this - Oyster works in London ONLY!!!!!

    There are National Railcards for older people that allow discounts, but no smartcards.

    There is no inter-operability between Oyster and any other transport operator anywhere outside of London. It is stand-alone in London.

    Is that everywhere in London?


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    Victor
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    Terrontress wrote: »
    Is that everywhere in London?

    If you are so interested in the scheme, perhap you should read up on it?

    http://www.tfl.gov.uk/


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    Irelandcool
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    It be nice if there was a deal between the UK and Ireland where people with the disabled free travel pass would work on all public and private transportation including Air travel. I mean that would be really handy.


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