Which of these chest execerises would ya leave out ya leave out?

O.P.H

Standard barbell bench press

Incline dumbell bench press

Decline dumbell bench press

Flat dumbell flys

If ya could only do 3 which would ya do

Brian?

O.P.H wrote: »

Standard barbell bench press

Incline dumbell bench press

Decline dumbell bench press

Flat dumbell flys

If ya could only do 3 which would ya do

I'd leave out flys, but then I never decline bench either and I prefer to DB bench rather than BB bench. So maybe I shouldn't be answering this

Man_bear_pig

get rid of the first one. dumbells require more control and strength. much better than a barbell

itsallaboutheL

Are you doing all of those on the dame day??

Transform

please lay out your whole program and your stats - height, weight, fat level, weights being lifted.

The question can't be properly answered without knowing this

arybvtcw0eolkf

Transform wrote: »

please lay out your whole program and your stats - height, weight, fat level, weights being lifted.

The question can't be properly answered without knowing this

Of course the OP's question can be answered.

OP, I'd leave out the decline's in favour of dips. And I'd leave out flies in favour of more sets on DB's or BB presses.

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cardio,shoot me

i thought u were doing SS

itsallaboutheL

Lexi Strong Moth-eaten wrote: »

Of course the OP's question can be answered.

OP, I'd leave out the decline's in favour of dips. And I'd leave out flies in favour of more sets on DB's or BB presses.

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How do you know how many sets he's doing now??

it makes a massive difference knowing what his lifts and current routine are

arybvtcw0eolkf

Lexi Strong Moth-eaten wrote: »

Of course the OP's question can be answered.

OP, I'd leave out the decline's in favour of dips. And I'd leave out flies in favour of more sets on DB's or BB presses.

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itsallaboutheL wrote: »

How do you know how many sets he's doing now??

it makes a massive difference knowing what his lifts and current routine are

Remember the TV show 'Catch Phrase' - 'Say what you see, not what you think you see'?.

The OP asked the question "Which of these chest execerises would ya leave out ya leave out?"..

And I answered "I'd"... I wasn't giving the OP advice, I was answering the question as it was put.

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itsallaboutheL

Semantics, pretty sure he wants us to tell him which he should leave out

arybvtcw0eolkf

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Semantics, pretty sure he wants us to tell him which he should leave out

I don't pretend to read minds, I just answered the OP's question as it was asked.

mloc

O.P.H wrote: »

Standard barbell bench press

Incline dumbell bench press

Decline dumbell bench press

Flat dumbell flys

If ya could only do 3 which would ya do

For me, this would depend on your goals rather than what you are doing at the moment. If you are looking for raw power or strength, the standard bench press is important. Do you do dips also for triceps? In that case you could drop the decline press. I'm not a massive fan of decline presses myself, but some people like them.

Personally, I'd go with flat bench, dips and incline flyes. Flat bench will be your main mass builder, the dips will work your triceps and lower chest and the incline flyes will isolate your upper pectorals and remove most of the impact on your probably knackered-by-that-stage triceps.

Kinetic^

O.P.H wrote: »

Decline dumbell bench press

If I had to pick one I'd leave this one out.

O.P.H

cardio,shoot me wrote: »

i thought u were doing SS

I was going to but I've just noticed too much of a good change with my new split routine so I'm gonna keep with it.

As for dips, I train at home and dont have a good "dip station", I can use the handles on my treadmill but they are a little far apart. When I do dip on this each hand is like 4 inches away from my legs, is that too wide for good dips.

arybvtcw0eolkf

O.P.H wrote: »

I was going to but I've just noticed too much of a good change with my new split routine so I'm gonna keep with it.

As for dips, I train at home and dont have a good "dip station", I can use the handles on my treadmill but they are a little far apart. When I do dip on this each hand is like 4 inches away from my legs, is that too wide for good dips.

Wide dips hit your chest, and even your delts alot harder than narrow dips (which hits your triceps alot harder at the expense of training your chest).


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Transform

and i just answered the question thinking about a total solution and not just which chest exercise of which it does not matter a jot when you look at the whole picture.

consultech

For chest I like:

Pushups x 8 (with perfectpushup - gimmick whore), immediately followed by DB fly x 8, immediately switching to dumbell press/arnie curl x 8.

Repeat x 3/4

Burns like a mofo after fly set, but I can see very solid muscle growth and def after just 4 weeks doing that 4 days pw.

Hanley

Man_bear_pig wrote: »

get rid of the first one. dumbells require more control and strength. much better than a barbell

That's just so ridiculously wrong.

And I'm digging dips now-a-days.

Vegeta

Hanley wrote: »

That's just so ridiculously wrong.

And I'm digging dips now-a-days.

I am not disagreeing with you but I am very curious about this point.

Say Johnny can barbell bench 100kg, personally I would have thought that would be easier than doing a rep with 2 dumbells each weighing 50kg.

I know personally I find it more difficult

Hanley

Vegeta wrote: »

I am not disagreeing with you but I am very curious about this point.

Say Johnny can barbell bench 100kg, personally I would have thought that would be easier than doing a rep with 2 dumbells each weighing 50kg.

I know personally I find it more difficult

YEah... and if you tried to fly the 50kg dumbbells you'd probably tear your arm off! Like they're similar to dumbbell presses so you sohuld use the same weight??

They're totally different movements so you can't compare.

consultech

Hanley wrote: »

YEah... and if you tried to fly the 50kg dumbbells you'd probably tear your arm off! Like they're similar to dumbbell presses so you sohuld use the same weight??

They're totally different movements so you can't compare.

This kinda sh1ts on my routine, but is a very valid point - You cant fly and press the same weight to achieve optimum results. I do do seperate chest stuff too.

Brian?

Hanley wrote: »

YEah... and if you tried to fly the 50kg dumbbells you'd probably tear your arm off! Like they're similar to dumbbell presses so you sohuld use the same weight??

They're totally different movements so you can't compare.

As a matter of interest, what do muscles do you think the DB's hit differently to barbell benching?

I find if I flat BB bench, my triceps scream before I feel anything in my chest but with DB's its less obvious. Strangly enough though I prefer to incline bench with a BB than with DB's. Does that make sense?

itsallaboutheL

briankeating wrote: »

As a matter of interest, what do muscles do you think the DB's hit differently to barbell benching?

I find if I flat BB bench, my triceps scream before I feel anything in my chest but with DB's its less obvious. Strangly enough though I prefer to incline bench with a BB than with DB's. Does that make sense?

a lot of this has to do with technique and bar postition, elbow position, where your benching from etc

Hanley

briankeating wrote: »

As a matter of interest, what do muscles do you think the DB's hit differently to barbell benching?

I find if I flat BB bench, my triceps scream before I feel anything in my chest but with DB's its less obvious. Strangly enough though I prefer to incline bench with a BB than with DB's. Does that make sense?

I don't really know tbh... L hit the nail's head with it being about your form etc.

FWIW, when flat benching I don't "feel" anything at all, but when I fail it's mid way up which suggests chest/shoulders being hit hard. But on dumbbell benches I fail right at the top with shaky arms, so triceps go.

It depends on weak points and individual stuff to a large extent really.

And I prefer dumbbells for incline benching strangely enough, but always struggle to get them up into position!

rubadub

O.P.H wrote: »

When I do dip on this each hand is like 4 inches away from my legs, is that too wide for good dips.

I read a gymnastics coach advising the bars should be the distance from the tip of your finger to your elbow. This works for me, I use a V-shaped bar which I highly favour over parallel bars.

ragg

IMO, it doesn't matter a ****e what you leave out! Once your workout is perfectly balanced. I.e. for every chest there is a back. For every quad there is equal hamstring work etc.

This is more important then the actual exercise otherwise for 90% of people.

Transform

ragg wrote: »

IMO, it doesn't matter a ****e what you leave out! Once your workout is perfectly balanced. I.e. for every chest there is a back. For every quad there is equal hamstring work etc.

This is more important then the actual exercise otherwise for 90% of people.

totally agree - its funny how many people worry about chest exercises when they cant even squat or deadlift their bench weight.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Hanley wrote: »

FWIW, when flat benching I don't "feel" anything at all, but when I fail it's mid way up which suggests chest/shoulders being hit hard. But on dumbbell benches I fail right at the top with shaky arms, so triceps go.

H, thats the way it should be.

Its at this point that a muscle grow's and gets stronger - why?, to make life easier!.

We're all both inherently lazy & efficient, when you push your body to failure with weights or to fatigue with cardio your body 'switches on' and the reason why this happens is that our bodies don't like pain or stress so it grow's to make life easy on itself! (efficiency)

Its also one of the reason's we plateau, your body has reached a point where its comfortable with life, its handling the stresses and strains we've thrown at it and stops growing stronger (lazy!).

So we throw something new at it, so it says 'feck this he's at it again' and the cycle begin's over!.

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celestial

Hanley wrote: »

I don't really know tbh... L hit the nail's head with it being about your form etc.

FWIW, when flat benching I don't "feel" anything at all, but when I fail it's mid way up which suggests chest/shoulders being hit hard. But on dumbbell benches I fail right at the top with shaky arms, so triceps go.

A lot of this will be due to d-bell benching engaging the stabilising muscles of the arms more - so when failing you'll feel it more in your triceps and delts than you would with barbells.

Brian?

celestial wrote: »

A lot of this will be due to d-bell benching engaging the stabilising muscles of the arms more - so when failing you'll feel it more in your triceps and delts than you would with barbells.

I can see what you're saying, but with DB benching when I fail the bells won't even move up an inch from the start position. When I BB bench its more towards the middle.