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Wimbledon!

  • 22-06-2009 12:26pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭


    I'm surprised no one has created a Wimbledon thread yet, might as well get in there first :D

    With Nadal out, Federer has moved into a price of 10/11 to win the tournament. While this is short, there are very few who have the calibre to oppose him on grass. However, given his so-so form during the previous year, I couldn't possibly bring myself to back him. After Soderling, the 1000/1 shot made the finals at Roland Garros, I definitely think it's possible that we may see an outsider progress to the final. With that in mind, I have a few longshot outright bets.

    Dimitrov @ 2000/1 - Virtually unknown Russian teenager who won the Wimbledon boys title last year. I got on him early, knowing that he'd get a wildcard entry (usually the previous years Boys/Girls winner gets a wildcard to the Mens/Womens). I've never even seen the kid play, but if he's good enough to wins the Boys final, he certainly has a schnifter of a chance. Could be the next Borg :P

    Chardy @ 1000/1 - Backed him before the draw, it was just my luck that he drew an in-form Andy Roddick. An awful lot will depend on just fast the surface plays at Wimbledon. If it's anything near as fast as Queens, Chardy might struggle. His form hasn't been too impressive as of late though.

    Kohlschreiber @ 650/1 - Notched up an excellent straight sets win against Djokovic at the French. Also put in a respectable showing at the grasscourt opener in Halle. He should have won at Halle other than a ridiculous run of points saw Tommy Haas steal the title away. I think that he's going to be a super-tough opponent and has more than enough to blow the lower ranked players away.

    Bets for the day:

    Laying Fish to beat Roitman @ 1.04. Fish is in great form and will enjoy the grass, but there's no way anyone could ever back a non-entity like him at a price so low.

    Laying Federer to beat Lu 3-0 in sets @ 1.1. Fed could just be a little rusty here. His set record this year suggests that this price is just way too short.

    Laying Peya to beat Haas @ 1.06. Haas can go from sublime to ridiculous. 1.06 is simply too short here.

    Backing over 0.5 tie breakers in Ljubicic v Querry at 4/7 (paddypower). Big servers on grass courts - we simply have to see one tie break.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    The odds are so wretched I could never bring myeelf to bet on tennis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    Arrghhh - Fed match has started and Lu broke him only to be broken straight back!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,853 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    I don't know a whole lot about tennis but my mate does so I've gotten her to go through the first round to pick some near-bankers. I did a big combo at Roland Garros which came off.

    So I have 11/1 or so on the following all winning: Roddick, Davydenko, Del Potro, Tsonga, Haas T, Verdasco, Söderling, Garcia-Lopez, Kohlschreiber, Safin, Tipsarevic, Ferrer & Llodra.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭ErinGoBrath


    mike65 wrote: »
    The odds are so wretched I could never bring myeelf to bet on tennis.

    Saying that I think the OP has the right idea of laying short odds bets. For example Lu is really putting it up to Fed in the first set and to take one set off him is amazing value at 9/1 in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Just mention the beeb are showing something like 6 matches at once via the red button for those who like in game betting.

    edit - just spotted that PP are taking the bbc coverage on the live betting page.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    Even though he's had his chances, it doesn't look like Lu is going to do enough here to take a set :mad: Having said that though, Federer is not at all convincing. Lu is probably one of the worse players in the tournament.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 386 ✭✭davylee


    del potro would be my tip if he can reproduce some of his recent form.
    His height is a huge advantage and his rock solid serve looks unstoppable when hit right.
    Murray has a chance too imo


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Anyone else Federer doesn't represent great value even at 1.8 on betfair?

    I'm thinking of laying him at that price or maybe when it shortens towards the end of the week. Could always back him again later on in the tournament.

    Stuck a fiver on Tommy Haas for the crack at 100/1 on betfair :eek:

    I have a feeling an outsider will do well this year and Haas is a good player and is a lively longshot imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    Del Potro has virtually no experience on grass courts other than falling at the first hurdle at Wimbledon. Having said that though, his game could really suit grass. I saw him completely overpower Tsonga at the French (how many players in the world could do that, 2 or 3?). With that power and his natural ability - I think he's definitely more value than Murray @ 3/1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    I wouldnt oppose Federer at Wimbledon with Nadal out. The guy has only been beaten once here in years and that was in last years epic final. Who will beat him?

    Murray is like the English soccer team - all hype, he consistently gets blown away by either Nadal/Federer in the Slams.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭MrKingsley


    Theres a good chance that an outsider will get to the final this year but only because nadal is out.

    Personally i think that federer at anywhere near evens offers good value for money based on the simple fact that unless he goes insane no one in the draw is capable of beating him on grass


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭gary nevillevil


    L Hewitt v R Ginepri
    Tuesday June 23rd 2009 start 1.30pm
    going with L Hewitt on the handicap -7.5games 12/5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭ErinGoBrath


    Laying Peya to beat Haas @ 1.06. Haas can go from sublime to ridiculous. 1.06 is simply too short here.

    Great call. Well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    I see Safin has a back injury coming into his match today. If he retires, do the bookies pay out on Lavine win?

    Thinking of a double - Lavine and Vasallo-Arguelo @ 5/1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭ErinGoBrath


    I see Safin has a back injury coming into his match today. If he retires, do the bookies pay out on Lavine win?

    Betfair pays out unless the retirement is in the first set.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭Daemos


    I see Safin has a back injury coming into his match today. If he retires, do the bookies pay out on Lavine win?

    Thinking of a double - Lavine and Vasallo-Arguelo @ 5/1

    Blue Square, Coral and Ladbrokes will as long as the match has started.

    Betfair, Betfred, Skybet and Totesport if at least one set has been played.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,345 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Laying Peya to beat Haas @ 1.06. Haas can go from sublime to ridiculous. 1.06 is simply too short here.

    I presume you layed Haas @ 1.06


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,853 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    8-10 wrote: »
    I don't know a whole lot about tennis but my mate does so I've gotten her to go through the first round to pick some near-bankers. I did a big combo at Roland Garros which came off.

    So I have 11/1 or so on the following all winning: Roddick, Davydenko, Del Potro, Tsonga, Haas T, Verdasco, Söderling, Garcia-Lopez, Kohlschreiber, Safin, Tipsarevic, Ferrer & Llodra.

    Just waiting on Safin now, he's 2-1 up. The other 12 all won.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    Dodge wrote: »
    I presume you layed Haas @ 1.06
    Alas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    8-10 wrote: »
    Just waiting on Safin now, he's 2-1 up. The other 12 all won.
    Safin! The bane of a gamblers existence. Unlucky.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    My picks are doing absolutely awful so far :( At least with backing long shots, I only need one or two to put me in profit. Anyway, bets for the next few days.

    Laying Federer to beat G-Lopez 3-0 @ 1.21 - Like I said earlier, not at all convinced of Federer, he struggled for awhile against Lu (who is totally useless). G-Lopez may be able to knick a set here.

    Backing Del Potro to beat Hewitt @ 1.5 - Hewitt is washed up and has done nothing for years. Potro on the otherhand is a rising star and has an awesome looping forehand that can blow most away.

    Laying Soderling against Granollers @ 1.09 - Looks far too short.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭7mountpleasant


    Had a bit of a stroke yesterday, racing post tipped Sam Querrey to beat Lubicic, backed him with bruce at 8/11 , had 100 quid on him, lubicic pulled out before match and was replaced by some thai no hoper who he promptly beat in straight sets, was not picked up on that querrey beat a replacement and duly paid out on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    Had a bit of a stroke yesterday, racing post tipped Sam Querrey to beat Lubicic, backed him with bruce at 8/11 , had 100 quid on him, lubicic pulled out before match and was replaced by some thai no hoper who he promptly beat in straight sets, was not picked up on that querrey beat a replacement and duly paid out on.
    :eek:

    That's a shocking mistake! Just be glad that Querrey didn't pull out, otherwise you would probably have been down a hundred squids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    Oh, I also have Koubek to beat Robredo @ 5.0 for today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭7mountpleasant


    :eek:

    That's a shocking mistake! Just be glad that Querrey didn't pull out, otherwise you would probably have been down a hundred squids.

    If querrey had pulled out would have brought it to their attention and got bet voided you can be sure!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭glanman


    Oh, I also have Koubek to beat Robredo @ 5.0 for today.

    Koubek 2 sets up, break down in third though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭dotsflan


    Hey guys im just wondering whats the best tennis website for getting stats from and is there any that do head to heads for wimbledon??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,345 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    dotsflan wrote: »
    Hey guys im just wondering whats the best tennis website for getting stats from and is there any that do head to heads for wimbledon??

    www.atpworldtour.com

    Pretty much everything you'll need stats wise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭ErinGoBrath


    glanman wrote: »
    Koubek 2 sets up, break down in third though

    2 all now, lost 4th set on tie breaker. Robredo surely will take it now? I hope not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    After winning the Levine/Argallo double yesterday, going for an accumulator:

    Del Potro, Becker, Berdych, Ferrero @ 5/1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 386 ✭✭davylee


    Don't think federer broke a sweat against lopez. Fierce boring match.
    He looks in good shape for a long run.
    Hard to back against him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,428 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    davylee wrote: »
    Hard to back against him

    This mug did. Well kind of. Had him to win 3-1. On del Potro outright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    What were the odds on the outsider to beat Sharapova today?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭Daemos


    What were the odds on the outsider to beat Sharapova today?

    10-3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 386 ✭✭davylee


    Sharapova was nowhere near her best. She needs matches.
    Still would though


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    davylee wrote: »
    Still would though

    twice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭highgiant1985


    My Tip for Wimbledon on Monday is

    I Andreev 23/10 to beat T Haas

    I also like a double of

    I Karlovic is 4/6 to beat F. Verdasco
    A Roddick is 1/2 to beat T Berdych

    €1 returns €2.50.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭cruiserweight


    My Tip for Wimbledon on Monday is

    I Andreev 23/10 to beat T Haas

    I also like a double of

    I Karlovic is 4/6 to beat F. Verdasco
    A Roddick is 1/2 to beat T Berdych

    €1 returns €2.50.

    I have an accumulator of
    I Karlovic at 8/13
    A Roddick at 1/2
    Wozniacki at 4/11
    Hewitt at 1/4

    €1 returns €4.13


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭cruiserweight


    I have an accumulator of
    I Karlovic at 8/13
    A Roddick at 1/2
    Wozniacki at 4/11
    Hewitt at 1/4

    €1 returns €4.13

    Bust already


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭highgiant1985


    Bust already

    yeah my singles gone double still up though

    I Karlovic vs F. Verdasco - matches between these guys are always tight, this one the same so far! One set each so far 7-6, 6-7


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 386 ✭✭davylee


    Anyone hear that sue barker one on about "will federer be worried about playing murray in the final?"
    Unbelievable. Doesn't matter what sport.Always at it, blowing up their own ( even though he's scottish), and most of the time only for a big anti climax.
    I think murray is in there with a shout but has a possibility of three tough games before the final and as of yet he hasn't proved he has the game to go the full 7 matches in a grand slam.
    Frustrating listening to talk of him being in the final when we're in the fourth round


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭highgiant1985


    davylee wrote: »
    Anyone hear that sue barker one on about "will federer be worried about playing murray in the final?"
    Unbelievable. Doesn't matter what sport.Always at it, blowing up their own ( even though he's scottish), and most of the time only for a big anti climax.
    I think murray is in there with a shout but has a possibility of three tough games before the final and as of yet he hasn't proved he has the game to go the full 7 matches in a grand slam.
    Frustrating listening to talk of him being in the final when we're in the fourth round

    if you look at his side of the draw though id def say he has an easier side of the draw than Federer since Nadal has withdrawn. I'm not saying I think he'll def get to the final but I do think that he should be capable of beating everyone who is left on his side of the draw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 386 ✭✭davylee


    if you look at his side of the draw though id def say he has an easier side of the draw than Federer since Nadal has withdrawn. I'm not saying I think he'll def get to the final but I do think that he should be capable of beating everyone who is left on his side of the draw.
    i totally agree. I have no problem with him. He's a top player. He has brilliant aggression in his play and a backhand to match.
    It's the public and media that act the annoying twits.
    (wawrinka just after taking him to a fifth set.)
    I don't think he'll make the final.
    I know he can, just don't think he will


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭highgiant1985


    my double came up!


    I Karlovic is 4/6 to beat F. Verdasco
    A Roddick is 1/2 to beat T Berdych

    €1 returns €2.50.

    pity the single lost though least didnt make a loss overall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭highgiant1985


    davylee wrote: »
    i totally agree. I have no problem with him. He's a top player. He has brilliant aggression in his play and a backhand to match.
    It's the public and media that act the annoying twits.
    (wawrinka just after taking him to a fifth set.)
    I don't think he'll make the final.
    I know he can, just don't think he will


    hes a break up in the fifth at the moment. assuming he goes on to win the 5th set he has Ferrero in the 1/4s. Thats the easiest player he could have got in the 1/4s i reckon though I also don't think haas is that strong either.
    if you look at the styles of play you'd have to fancy murry to win that one and if he does he DOES have a tough semi final granted against Roddick or Hewitt but tbh semi final of a grand slam who ever you play it should be a tough one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 386 ✭✭davylee


    hes a break up in the fifth at the moment. assuming he goes on to win the 5th set he has Ferrero in the 1/4s. Thats the easiest player he could have got in the 1/4s i reckon though I also don't think haas is that strong either.
    if you look at the styles of play you'd have to fancy murry to win that one and if he does he DOES have a tough semi final granted against Roddick or Hewitt but tbh semi final of a grand slam who ever you play it should be a tough one.
    true but will he get to face ferrero


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,131 ✭✭✭NabyLadistheman


    Having a couple of punts in the Federer match

    Karlovic to win a set - 5/4 I have a feeling there will be a couple of tie-breakers (a bet in itself) and the big-seving Croat may be able to nick one

    First set tie-break EVENS Bet 365

    Think the first set will go with serve, especially with Ivo bangin in the aces


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    I just got on Djokovic at 1/2 against Haas in an effort to reverse my awful Wimbledon run.

    I know he's recently lost to Haas on grass, but this is a grandslam and a whole different kettle of fish.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    C'mon Haas ! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭thewools


    I think Safina is a great price today to beat Venus. We all know that the Williams sisters are A1+ on grass sure. But Safina can match Williams' power and has an all round game to go along with it...

    Safina bet her last time out - on clay however. They have never played against each other on grass.

    4/1 is a great price. Going to see if I can lay some of it off if Safina starts well too...


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