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intensive training, but didnt sweat

  • 18-06-2009 12:11am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 92 ✭✭


    Went to a training session with a football team today, they have been training for months so are all pretty fit.
    All i have been doing lately was some five-a-side/kickabouts and the odd jogg so I would not regard myself as 'fit'.
    Even though I was wrecked by the end and completely out of breath I didnt sweat at all -even on my way home. Just wondering why I didnt considering everyone else was, they were fitter and I was exhausted:confused:

    thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭--amadeus--


    The fitter you are teh more you sweat - you sweat to cool down and as you get fitter your body becomes more efficient at cooling and so you sweat more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭accensi0n


    The fitter you are teh more you sweat - you sweat to cool down and as you get fitter your body becomes more efficient at cooling and so you sweat more.

    I'm not fit and I sweat a lot...

    :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Some people just sweat, or not, differently.

    I'm a big guy and I drip with sweat in the gym, I don't think that will magically change once I get the weight down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    The fitter you are teh more you sweat - you sweat to cool down and as you get fitter your body becomes more efficient at cooling and so you sweat more.

    Very interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭ronaneire


    The fitter you are teh more you sweat - you sweat to cool down and as you get fitter your body becomes more efficient at cooling and so you sweat more.

    Really? Well you learn something new everyday :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    The fitter you are teh more you sweat - you sweat to cool down and as you get fitter your body becomes more efficient at cooling and so you sweat more.

    Don't get me wrong, I literally SOAK my t-shirt at training and I'm relatively fit (I mean, fitter than the average punter, but I'm not fighting fit atm). Anyway, your logic as I read it says:

    if you're fit then you create less heat, therefore you need to cool down less, therefore you engage your cooling mechanism more. That doesn't compute.

    Do you mean you become better at sweating from practice kinda thing?

    OP: were you well hydrated?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    I find that when i do a good training session i am always dripping, whether im fully hydrated or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Charlie3dan


    Khannie wrote: »
    if you're fit then you create less heat, therefore you need to cool down less, therefore you engage your cooling mechanism more. That doesn't compute.

    I don't think being fit means you create less heat and I don't think it's an issue of cooling down less but more efficiently.

    I have heard amadeus' theory before and I see alot of evidence to support it.
    But I'd really like to hear people's thoughts on it.

    It doesn't explain why you sometimes see an unfit person covered in sweat after relatively less exertion, but I suppose the unfit person may need to actually sweat more than they are, their body isn't efficiently releasing the sweat/ cooling them and this is contributing to them burning out faster. (???)

    ....seems to make sense but still it's not 100% convincing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭celestial


    Khannie wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong, I literally SOAK my t-shirt at training and I'm relatively fit (I mean, fitter than the average punter, but I'm not fighting fit atm). Anyway, your logic as I read it says:

    if you're fit then you create less heat, therefore you need to cool down less, therefore you engage your cooling mechanism more. That doesn't compute.

    Do you mean you become better at sweating from practice kinda thing?

    OP: were you well hydrated?

    Prob selling yourself short there Khannie ;) - 'fitter than the average punter'?! If you are soaking your shirt then this is even further proof.

    Sweating is a cooling mechanism, and just as your heart becomes more efficient at pumping blood as you get fitter, so does the sweating mechanism. Your body has become so used to exercise that is optimally primed to start sweating as a response to it. In other words, the fitter you are, the more efficient a sweater you are.

    I sweated walking to work this morning in a t-shirt! I'd be fairly sweaty fairly quickly in the gym even doing a fairly light workout. Can only be a good sign :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭--amadeus--


    Yea, pretty much like the lads said...

    Excercise is work and on a cellular level that involves chemical reactions that have heat as a by-product. Our bodies aren't great at cooling themselves so (as I'm sure you all know) sweat is released onto the skin and the evaporation of that sweat from your skin is what gives you the cooling effect.

    Now as you get fitter you'll be able to do more work with less perceived effort but that does not equal less effort. Taking the example of lifting a big weight - at first you have x muscle mass so each cm3 has to perform y amount of work / effort. If your muscle mass doubles then teh amount of work stays the same but effort per cm3 of muscle mass (y) is halved (make sense? It does in my head but I'm prolly not explaining it well).

    So even though you have less perception of effort you are still performing the same amount of work so generating teh same amount of heat. And - as said above - your body is better trained to handle it - it will start sweating earlier and with greater volumes.

    Now obviously all this is generic - I'm sure there are olympic athletes who never sweat or whatever but that's my understanding of teh books I've read. Open to correction on it though!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭celestial


    Yea, pretty much like the lads said...

    Excercise is work and on a cellular level that involves chemical reactions that have heat as a by-product. Our bodies aren't great at cooling themselves so (as I'm sure you all know) sweat is released onto the skin and the evaporation of that sweat from your skin is what gives you the cooling effect.

    Now as you get fitter you'll be able to do more work with less perceived effort but that does not equal less effort. Taking the example of lifting a big weight - at first you have x muscle mass so each cm3 has to perform y amount of work / effort. If your muscle mass doubles then teh amount of work stays the same but effort per cm3 of muscle mass (y) is halved (make sense? It does in my head but I'm prolly not explaining it well).

    So even though you have less perception of effort you are still performing the same amount of work so generating teh same amount of heat. And - as said above - your body is better trained to handle it - it will start sweating earlier and with greater volumes.

    Now obviously all this is generic - I'm sure there are olympic athletes who never sweat or whatever but that's my understanding of teh books I've read. Open to correction on it though!

    Good explanation. I also read an article where the author (a renowned trainer and physiologist) talked about she had heard about elite athletes sweating in advance of an event/competition they were to be involved in - they were so finely tuned that their bodies were prepping them before they even made it to the competition venue!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 typerchick


    Hi!! Thank god I found this thread! I was beginning to think there was something seriously wrong with me ... Started walking 10 days ago, I would say I am pretty unfit. Started off doing 2-3 miles at a good pace for a week No sweat :confused: so I presumed I wasnt pushing enough or wearing enough clothes. So this week extra clothes along with an extra mile upped the pace and still no sweat! So this theory makes perfect sense to me !

    My boyfriend is a runner and has been running for over 2 yrs he comes home covered in sweat and at this stage is he super fit!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Hmmm I'm worried. The most I sweat when training is wrapping my knees. Does that mean I'm a super efficient conditioned knee wrapper?? Seriously... I sweat more in the 15-20 minutes I spend wrapping and rewrapping than I do in a full normal session!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭--amadeus--


    You're not working hard enough Hanley, put some effort in ;)

    Seriously I wouldn't get hung up on this - it's a theory that has some scientific grounding and explained the OPs question. Environmental and personal factors will dictate how much anyone sweats in any given session, it's not an absolute yardstick to measure fitness by.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A theory I'd like to throw out there is this:

    I get hot really easily. I mean, I'm in New Zealand at the moment and it's roughly -4 outside and snowing so I need less layers than average. All I wear is a t-shirt, a very light cardigan and a sleeveless jacket and a pair of light ski pants, anything else on and I'd be WAY too hot which is not a lot compared to most people over here. But the point is I don't feel the cold as much as others seem to.

    And as such, I sweat LOADS when I work out - kind of like a tap sometimes literally and then for an hour after the workout, i'd be pumping it still - especially on my lower back.

    Anyway, why is it some people feel the heat more than others? And does this contribute to the whole "sweating loads" theory? I'd consider myself fit and in good shape - not near Transforms condition (but who is? :) ) but I'm hovering around 10-12% and 190lbs @ 6'0.

    Fellow fitness friends, WHAT DOES THIS MEAAAANNN?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    I sweat when i'm sitting in a sunny patch of a beer garden,i almost never sweat heavily in the gym,unless the gym is incredibly warm as is often the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    celestial wrote: »
    Good explanation. I also read an article where the author (a renowned trainer and physiologist) talked about she had heard about elite athletes sweating in advance of an event/competition they were to be involved in - they were so finely tuned that their bodies were prepping them before they even made it to the competition venue!

    I sweat a good bit in advance of a fight. Adrenaline levels are through the roof though so at a guess I'd say it's down to nerves (for me anyway).
    celestial wrote: »
    Prob selling yourself short there Khannie ;)

    Haha. :D Ok, maybe a little.
    Now as you get fitter you'll be able to do more work with less perceived effort but that does not equal less effort. Taking the example of lifting a big weight - at first you have x muscle mass so each cm3 has to perform y amount of work / effort. If your muscle mass doubles then teh amount of work stays the same but effort per cm3 of muscle mass (y) is halved (make sense? It does in my head but I'm prolly not explaining it well).

    That's a really good explanation. Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭mixer101


    typerchick wrote: »

    My boyfriend is a runner and has been running for over 2 yrs he comes home covered in sweat and at this stage is he super fit!!

    :D Jeez, running for 2 years ... I guess you'd work up a helluva good sweat doing that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭kevpants


    Hanley wrote: »
    Hmmm I'm worried. The most I sweat when training is wrapping my knees. Does that mean I'm a super efficient conditioned knee wrapper?? Seriously... I sweat more in the 15-20 minutes I spend wrapping and rewrapping than I do in a full normal session!!

    I was sweating wrapping your knees in Belfast too, but that's because your wraps smell like death.

    Sweating is my specialist subject, any of the TF heads can vouch for me on this one. I always have been a sweater and not like ordinary people who sweat under their arms and maybe their brow. Every pore on my body is engaged at the slightest hint of me being too warm. My side of the bed is like the fuckin shroud of turin if the weather is warm.

    Like the poster above though I just don't feel the cold, I'll gladly wear just a t-shirt and jeans outside in the winter if I'm just going to be outside for a short enough while or if I'm going to me moving. I'd only need to wrap up if I was going to standing around in the cold.

    One of the most horrible sensations I experience in winter is when it's freezing cold on my hands and face etc but I'm stifling hot and sweating under a big jacket. That sensation is like nails on a chalkboard for me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    kevpants wrote: »
    I was sweating wrapping your knees in Belfast too, but that's because your wraps smell like death.

    Sweating is my specialist subject, any of the TF heads can vouch for me on this one. I always have been a sweater and not like ordinary people who sweat under their arms and maybe their brow. Every pore on my body is engaged at the slightest hint of me being too warm. My side of the bed is like the fuckin shroud of turin if the weather is warm.

    Like the poster above though I just don't feel the cold, I'll gladly wear just a t-shirt and jeans outside in the winter if I'm just going to be outside for a short enough while or if I'm going to me moving. I'd only need to wrap up if I was going to standing around in the cold.

    One of the most horrible sensations I experience in winter is when it's freezing cold on my hands and face etc but I'm stifling hot and sweating under a big jacket. That sensation is like nails on a chalkboard for me.

    Yeah I'm the exact same.... it's weird, I've NEVER been a cold person. Like on the coldest of mornings this year I'd be walking into work with a suit and overcoat on and end up covered in sweat by the time I got to the office (10-15 min walk like). It's so frustrating because no matter what I do I ALWAYS end up soaked in sweat!!

    I think heavier guys suffer from it more tho...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭cardio,shoot me


    i sweat getting out of bed some morning and going to the toilet, in the gym the only thing that makes me sweat is power cleans.


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