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Garda charged for false statement

  • 15-06-2009 7:17pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭


    Garda charged for false statement
    Monday, 15 June 2009 18:21

    A female garda has appeared at the Dublin Circuit Criminal Court charged with making a false statement to gardaí alleging that she was attacked by a taxi driver.

    The court heard 25-year-old Niamh O'Connor, from Rathnure, in Enniscorthy, Co Wexford, had pleaded guilty to the offence, which happened on 28 December 2007.

    She is currently suspended from work and will be sentenced on 9 July.
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    In court today, Sergeant Ronan Muldoon gave evidence that on the night of 27 December 2007, Ms O'Connor was socialising in Dublin city centre with friends.

    In the early hours of the morning, she took a taxi home from the Camden Street area.

    At around 4am, she rang Bray Garda Station, where she was stationed, in a distressed state. She told a garda colleague she had been attacked in a taxi on the way home.

    A number of gardaí called to Ms O'Connor's home where she repeated the claim. The court heard she was intoxicated.

    She showed her colleagues a ripped dress she said she had been wearing and her tights were also torn.

    Gardaí were concerned because there had been a similar incident reported to them that night. They took the complaint seriously and began to seek CCTV footage from the area.

    The following afternoon, Ms O'Connor made a detailed four-page statement at Donnybrook Garda Station.

    She said a number of men, one of whom was in the car boot, had attacked her and that she fought her way out of the taxi.

    She gave details of the model of the car, the colour and height and build of the driver and two other men she alleged attacked her in the taxi.

    Sergeant Muldoon told the court Ms O'Connor had made a previous false report when she was intoxicated and had been reprimanded internally for this.

    After she signed the statement, he said he asked her if she was satisfied with it.

    When he warned her about its seriousness, she admitted it was 'completely false and total lies'.

    Ms O'Connor told gardaí she had made the complaint because the taxi driver had given her a dirty look.

    Her defence counsel Remy Farrell told the court she had previously suffered from depression and had not 'been right' since working at a fire where two firemen died in Bray three months earlier.

    He said she had apologised for wasting garda time and was facing the prospect of being dismissed from the force.

    Because of her position, I hope this silly cow get sent to jail, she makes a (false) statement about being attacked because a taxi driver gave her a dirty look, attention seeking whore.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭DTrotter


    The future looks bright indeed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    She'll be lucky if a look is the dirtiest thing she'll be getting where she's going!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    They should make an example of her and send her away. Wasting police time is bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭tribulus


    Quite a poor show on her part, abuse of power and all that.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    She pleaded guilty? N1


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭DTrotter


    Sounded like she was in Flannerys and Coppers aswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    There has been some talk t she has mental health issues.

    But what concerns me is that this lady is in a position of power and authority, she is not of right mind to make a very serious allegation against an innocent taxi driver because he looked at her funny:eek:

    As she is already suspended at present, she will be made to resign from the force in my opinion and might even get a custodial sentence.

    Dundrum or Portrane might be her future address for a few years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    Deffo should get sacked. Can you imagine what would of happened to the taxi driver she tried to stich up if the guards had of caught him that night :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭the roo


    and what about all the real scumbags out killing and raping. and all the child pervents and drud dealers and when thay are caught lie through their teeth to try and get off at our expense. at least she has the decency to face the music. i wonder is ur level of hate directed at her because of her job. if it is ur a sad case and shame on u all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    I got a dirty look off a taxi driver once. The guards laughed it off at the time but I still suffer from low self esteem.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    tribulus wrote: »
    Quite a poor show on her part, abuse of power and all that. I feel sorry for the dirty-look-giving driver too, having to deal with it.


    He didn't have to deal with it :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭DTrotter


    finn28 wrote: »
    and what about all the real scumbags out killing and raping. and all the child pervents and drud dealers and when thay are caught lie through their teeth to try and get off at our expense. at least she has the decency to face the music. i wonder is ur level of hate directed at her because of her job. if it is ur a sad case and shame on u all

    Shame on your spelling, it probbaly is because of her job, ie being in a position of authority and abusing it, too much of that went/goes on in Ireland. All the time wasted on this could have been spent going after the "real scumbags".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    finn28 wrote: »
    and what about all the real scumbags out killing and raping. and all the child pervents and drud dealers and when thay are caught lie through their teeth to try and get off at our expense. at least she has the decency to face the music. i wonder is ur level of hate directed at her because of her job. if it is ur a sad case and shame on u all

    That's exactly what it is. False statements are made every day in this country, but how often do they get reported :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    finn28 wrote: »
    and what about all the real scumbags out killing and raping. and all the child pervents and drud dealers and when thay are caught lie through their teeth to try and get off at our expense. at least she has the decency to face the music. i wonder is ur level of hate directed at her because of her job. if it is ur a sad case and shame on u all

    It might be because she is a snakey scheming attention seeking bitch, who could have tarnished an innocent man because he gave her a "dirty look". You can flap your gums about drug dealers and perverts all you want, but this scum behavior is on a level par with them. And if you can still feel sorry for her, then you are the sad case it would appear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭mollypop


    I should be reply to the famous people from your school thread :D I went to school with this girl, I could have told you when she was 15 that power would go to her head. Why do they let people so obviously craving power and attention into the force. It seems that's pretty much all they let in! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Borneo Fnctn


    Her defence counsel Remy Farrell told the court she had previously suffered from depression and had not 'been right' since working at a fire where two firemen died in Bray three months earlier.
    Would she ever fuck off with herself. I despise people who try to avoid accountability by looking for sympathy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    mollypop wrote: »
    Why do they let people so obviously craving power and attention into the force. It seems that's pretty much all they let in! :rolleyes:


    And when they don't do something you say why aren't they using their power?? She wasn't right in the head, she made a false statement, she fessed up - nothing to do with her job. If she had been a secretary or a doctor this thread wouldn't exist, but the statement would have been taken just as seriously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭mollypop


    prinz wrote: »
    And when they don't do something you say why aren't they using their power?? She wasn't right in the head, she made a false statement, she fessed up - nothing to do with her job. If she had been a secretary or a doctor this thread wouldn't exist, but the statement would have been taken just as seriously.

    Do you really think that's true? She was p1ssed off with the taxi driver. She went home thought 'how dare he, I'm a guard ffs, I know how the system works, I'll ring my mates and have him done for assult.'

    I've been p1ssed off with taxi drivers before but wouldn't have the neck/even think about reporting them. I'm pretty sure that if she had become a doctor(not possible) etc she wouldnt have done it. She'd have gone home and slept it off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    There has been some talk t she has mental health issues.

    She just sounds dangerous to me, a bunny boiler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    prinz wrote: »
    And when they don't do something you say why aren't they using their power?? She wasn't right in the head, she made a false statement, she fessed up - nothing to do with her job. If she had been a secretary or a doctor this thread wouldn't exist, but the statement would have been taken just as seriously.

    What has you so defensive? You would swear we were talking about you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭tribulus


    prinz wrote: »
    He didn't have to deal with it :confused:

    Sorry, you're right, I misread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭MIN2511


    Like, what's the maximum sentence?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    What a bizarre reason to try get someone in trouble,God i would be in court everyday if that was the case.Irish people give some foul dirty looks:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    finn28 wrote: »
    at least she has the decency to face the music. i wonder is ur level of hate directed at her because of her job. if it is ur a sad case and shame on u all

    Then lets give her a fecking medal, of course the thread was started because she was a Garda, its the same as a doctor proscribing pills for their mates or solicitors turning a blind eye for their clients, its abuse of a power directly related to her job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    mollypop wrote: »
    Do you really think that's true? She was p1ssed off with the taxi driver. She went home thought 'how dare he, I'm a guard ffs, I know how the system works, I'll ring my mates and have him done for assult.'

    I've been p1ssed off with taxi drivers before but wouldn't have the neck/even think about reporting them. I'm pretty sure that if she had become a doctor(not possible) etc she wouldnt have done it. She'd have gone home and slept it off.


    Personally I know a woman who has made false statements detailing domestic abuse against her husband, and has called the Gardaí around to the house saying he's threatening her with a knife etc. She got off with a caution, from the local station. Do you know why she got a warning?... because the locals told the husband it's happening day in day out, over everything. You don't need to "know the system" to make a statement. tbh she doesn't sound right in the head.

    BUT that's no excuse to blame it on the fact that she was a garda,or that all gardaí are on a power trip etc.

    Seems to me like if she wasn't a garda then they would not have known her history of being a bit loopy and would not have been at pains to point out the consequences of making a false statement, precipitating her confession.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Senna wrote: »
    its abuse of a power directly related to her job.


    How so? Gardaí are allowed to make statements....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Senna wrote: »
    solicitors turning a blind eye for their clients,.

    You mean the solicitors of the hundreds of scumbags getting off on everything from drunk driving to murder because of technicalities etc every day? Where's the thread on that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭mollypop


    prinz wrote: »
    Personally I know a woman who has made false statements detailing domestic abuse against her husband, and has called the Gardaí around to the house saying he's threatening her with a knife etc. She got off with a caution, from the local station. Do you know why she got a warning?... because the locals told the husband it's happening day in day out, over everything. You don't need to "know the system" to make a statement. tbh she doesn't sound right in the head.

    BUT that's no excuse to blame it on the fact that she was a garda,or that all gardaí are on a power trip etc.

    Seems to me like if she wasn't a garda then they would not have known her history of being a bit loopy and would not have been at pains to point out the consequences of making a false statement, precipitating her confession.

    I'm sorry Garda :o I didn't mean it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    prinz wrote: »
    How so? Gardaí are allowed to make statements....

    About people throwing them looks they don't approve of?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭gerrycollins


    personally i think she was a sandwich or two short of a picnic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    DarkJager wrote: »
    About people throwing them looks they don't approve of?

    :confused: Nobody is. But her job has nothing to do with it. She's a bit mental - she could've been a go-go dancer. What's your point? She didn't "abuse" any powers, as she did something which is everyone's right to do.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    prinz wrote: »
    :confused: Nobody is. But her job has nothing to do with it. She's a bit mental - she could've been a go-go dancer. What's your point? She didn't "abuse" any powers, as she did something which is everyone's right to do.....

    Can I ask you a serious question; are you clued into reality at all? Her job has everything to do with it. She made a false accusation, a very serious one at that (with her job most likely as a backdrop in her mind to making it believable), and you think that is something people have a right to do? She could have been any profession, its the sheer obscenity of what she was trying to achieve and the reason for it which makes her a cretin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    She made a mistake and is going to pay for it that's all needs to be said.Although now when a Garda makes a true statement of such allegations they are going to be scrutinised very badly which is not so good for them.
    It said she was there for the fire when to the two fire men died a little while back and she is saying is the reason she hasn't been same since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    prinz wrote: »
    :confused: Nobody is. But her job has nothing to do with it. She's a bit mental - she could've been a go-go dancer. What's your point? She didn't "abuse" any powers, as she did something which is everyone's right to do.....
    Now quite, she phoned the station where she worked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    shqipshume wrote: »
    She made a mistake and is going to pay for it that's all needs to be said.Although now when a Garda makes a true statement of such allegations they are going to be scrutinised very badly which is not so good for them.
    It said she was there for the fire when to the two fire men died a little while back and she is saying is the reason she hasn't been same since.

    Its always nice to have some sympathy seeking excuse when you get caught isn't it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    shqipshume wrote: »
    It said she was there for the fire when to the two fire men died a little while back and she is saying is the reason she hasn't been same since.

    I'd say thats completely boll0x too, using it as an excuse to get sympathy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    prinz wrote: »
    How so? Gardaí are allowed to make statements....

    Not false statements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    prinz wrote: »
    And when they don't do something you say why aren't they using their power?? She wasn't right in the head, she made a false statement, she fessed up - nothing to do with her job.
    She didn't just fess up though, she carried it on to the next day and made a full statement while sober from what I heard. It wasn't until she was pushed that she admitted she was lieing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    DarkJager wrote: »
    Can I ask you a serious question; are you clued into reality at all? Her job has everything to do with it. She made a false accusation, a very serious one at that (with her job most likely as a backdrop in her mind to making it believable), and you think that is something people have a right to do?

    People have a right to make a statement if they so wish. A garda making a statement is NOT an abuse of power. She should have known better. She didn't abuse any power any more than Mr Whippy if he made a false statement.
    DarkJager wrote: »
    She could have been any profession, its the sheer obscenity of what she was trying to achieve and the reason for it which makes her a cretin.

    I'm not defending her, she wasted time, made a false statement, I don't care what sentence she gets, but I'm not going to jump on the 'abuse of power/power trip gardaí bandwagon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    ScumLord wrote: »
    She didn't just fess up though, she carried it on to the next day and made a full statement while sober from what I heard. It wasn't until she was pushed that she admitted she was lieing.


    Exactly. They knew she was dodgy. If they didn't know her past, it could have turned out a lot worse, i.e. they take it seriously. They did not take her job into account in believing her story, which negates the abuse of power argument.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Saibh wrote: »
    Not false statements.

    Noone is..

    the point is that the fact she's a Garda is nothing to do with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    SV wrote: »
    Noone is..

    the point is that the fact she's a Garda is nothing to do with it.


    I know, He only mentioned Gardaí in his post.

    No one should give a false statement ever and think they can get away with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 806 ✭✭✭bonzos


    she is in a state job in a position of power and for abusing this she should be thrown out of the force ,there is too much of this "flash the badge" BS going on in the force.they are being paid by the tax payer and should respect the people who pay their wages.while i think that their are a lot of very good guards in the force there is also a lot of them who would turn on an ordinary member of the public if questioned in any way and at the same time turn a blind eye to total scumbags


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Onearmedbandit


    Tenner says she doesn't get sacked after this. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    The run on her on the news was gas out!

    Stupid B-itch. :)

    She was out with the girls for a night out....probably drinking 'shnakebites' and discussing the football...


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    It's the same as when priests have been caught wrong-doing. Some jobs are supposed to be held to a higher standard of account than the general population: those that don't should be severely dealt with. She deserves expulsion from the force, a ban on being in the guards/army for life and I would like to see her get a custodial sentence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 124 ✭✭Dark_lord_ire


    she will deffo get sacked 100% sure of it. Still to anyone who says the guards are corrupt who prosecuted her? her own. I think the guards do clamp down hard on corruption. Thankfully

    But i'm almost sure she wont do time for this i'd say the judge will look at the fact she lost her job and will just record a conviction


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Red Alert wrote: »
    It's the same as when priests have been caught wrong-doing. Some jobs are supposed to be held to a higher standard of account than the general population: those that don't should be severely dealt with. She deserves expulsion from the force, a ban on being in the guards/army for life and I would like to see her get a custodial sentence.

    I agree.

    And the worst crime that she has committed is bringing into question the credibility of woman who might be the victims of sexual attacks in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    . I think the guards do clamp down hard on corruption. Thankfully

    Except Donegal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Ronnette


    DarkJager wrote: »
    It might be because she is a snakey scheming attention seeking bitch, who could have tarnished an innocent man because he gave her a "dirty look". You can flap your gums about drug dealers and perverts all you want, but this scum behavior is on a level par with them. And if you can still feel sorry for her, then you are the sad case it would appear.

    :mad:Where do u get off calling her a bitch and comparing drug dealers and perverts to her!!?? She made a mistake, plenty of people do! She backed herself into a corner and couldn't find her way out so she did the right thing and told the truth! This girl has done alot for her town AND county if u take the time to find out about her. She will loose her career and has been named, shamed, shown on the news and this only happened because of her choosen career, if she was unemployed or any other career no1 would hear tell of this! If anything, suspended sentence, that's the most she deserves and I hope all goes well for her!


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