I'm a skeptic. I want to know some personal paranormal experiences.

Overblood

I'm not here to troll or take the piss. I just want to know what experiences have led you to embrace the whole paranormal scene.

I "think" I get it. It's fun, isn't it? It's fun to hunt ghosts, believe in alien abductions, spooky goings on and everything else that people speak about in this forum. The mere possibility of these things existing is exciting.

I have never had a paranormal experience myself. Anything I see on TV is rubbish; "Most Haunted" comes to mind.

A door creaks...

"What was that noise?!"

"It sounded like somebody crying"

"No it was a distinct utterance of a word"

"Somebody called out a name, did they?"

"No it sounded more like a growl, like RAWRGHGRR"

"It could be a werewolf"

Conclusion: It was a werewolf.

I'm sure you can understand why skeptics think the way they do. I don't believe in Ouija Boards ( after trying a few times ) ghosts, mediums, psychics, the Area 51 conspiracy, reincarnation, and many other paranormal phenomena. There is no evidence, and if any "evidence" is put forward, it is as shoddy as a knacker's trap.

People want to believe in ghosts, so anything that may be evidence in favour of ghosts is seen as solid. A creepy noise in an abandoned hospital. It could have been the wind, but it was more than likely a ghost!!!

Kind of like my doggies.

I'm sitting with my dogs right now. Dogs love to protect their territory. They are geared towards that. My dogs bark at any noise outside the house. A car passes, it must be an intruder!!! Some strange bird caws, intruder alert!!! Even if I say the word "woof", they run to the door and ready themselves for action. But are there any intruders? Nope.

My point is, if there is one, just one experience that makes you believe in other worlds/ ghosts/ aliens/ the other "side" etc etc... what is it? The X-Files slogan was "I want to believe". And if you guys want to believe, you will cherry pick any piece of evidence, no matter how small, and sell it as proof.

Give me some ground-breaking experiences. Please.:)


edit: oh yeah and crop circles are made by humans.

bigeasyeah

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suey71

Hi Overblood.
Most haunted makes me laugh too. When I see a little orb skitting around a dark room in a "haunted castle" oooh. Thats not an orb, I've seen an orb and its bloody bigger than that! How about the size of a basket ball floating across your kitchen table at dinner time with the lights on. I say to my mother did you see that? and she says "dont say a thing" without even looking up, as if it was normal. and this was about 20 years before I even knew what an orb was.
Or how about when your cousin dies and your 12 year old little brother and 10 year old sister and 2 of their friends see her spirit just after she dies/same time out in the back garden. And all of the electrical appliances in the house turn on by themselves and the TV comes on and changes channels on its own and all the windows and doors open by themselves, What then? what happens when the kids run out on the road and tell one of the neighbours to come into the house and see whats happening, and he comes in and cant turn the TV off because its not turned on. What then?
There is stuff out there that no one understands.
If people made films about what really happens out there, no one would believe it. and yeah "the truth is out there" but its bloody spookier than the films make out. Big Time..

iamhunted

I "think" I get it. It's fun, isn't it? It's fun to hunt ghosts, believe in alien abductions, spooky goings on and everything else that people speak about in this forum. The mere possibility of these things existing is exciting.

I think to a degree. some see it that way. Personally I just want to know what the story is .. its not necessarily for the fun. I see there being two types of people interested int he paranormal - one for ****s and giggles/scare factor and others who genuinely wish to understand what causes paranormal experiences.

Some personal stories (may as well be the first to put my head on the block):

In one particular place I lived (compeltely detached home):

TVs and Radios would randomly turn on

Lights would dim/brighten (with no dimmer) or switch off completely. this would happen in individual rooms (different ones at different times) and not with all the lights at the one time.

Various voices from moans, whispers and sighs - usually unmistakenly right in the ear. And I mean almost inside the ear - theres just no way the sounds came from across the room etc etc.

Noises of things falling off walls - very loud distinct and clear. Obviously after checking, nothing would have fallen off the wall.

Things being moved/missing and then reappearing. One incident with an alarm clock - wasnt there at night (I had looked for it) and in the morning was in a position where it just wasnt before I went to sleep.

Soudns of people walking up the corridor and going into one particular room. this had me fooled for a few months as I actually thought it was one of the kids, until I realised there never was the sounds of someone going back down the hall. eventually, i eneded up waiting for the sounds of somone coming coming up the hall and would check as soon as I heard it - but there'd be no-one there

Theres more but you get the jist.

Overblood

iamhunted wrote: »

Some personal stories (may as well be the first to put my head on the block):

I'm not here to take the piss! There ain't no block. I just want to know what personal experiences caused you to believe.

MrMojoRisin

I "think" I get it. It's fun, isn't it? It's fun to hunt ghosts, believe in alien abductions, spooky goings on and everything else that people speak about in this forum. The mere possibility of these things existing is exciting.

When I think about paranormal things,I never think 'it's fun', tbh w/ you. Ive never hunted ghosts (u wouldnt hunt a living person - unless youre mental - so why would you hunt a dead person's spirit??) and I laugh at alien abductions. I was actually just thinkin about that whole alien thing last night when I was driving home ! I came to the conclusion that the whole aliens lark came about because, one night/day, a police car pulled up to find some dumb Yank goin out of his/her mind, but instead of said dumb Yank explaining truthfully,"Officer,I'm just finishing up on a LSD trip", they waffled, "An alien abducted me, Officer! I'm suffering from PST disorder right now because of the shock of it all!" And so began the alien abduction/aliens exist fables... i know there are people who take the aliens thing REALLY seriously, and good luck to them,but I think its baloney

I have never had a paranormal experience myself.

Define what you mean by 'a paranormal experience'? Paranormal can cover a lot of things. Like,have u ever been thinking of a song, a person you know, or a public figure, and then you switched on the TV, radio, opened a newspaper and there they are, or the person you know that you were thinking about then called/texted u? I was emailing a friend n London a few months ago and I was responding 2 him goin on about castles (he wants to live n one someday). I started taking the p!ss out of Enya, who lives n a castle, and talkin about how she seems 2 hide in there and if she ever goes out even to push a shopping trolley around Tesco. 3 days later,who appears on the Late Late show w/ Prat Kenny for a chat, only Enya! :pac: that sh!t happens 2 me all the time but I dont make a big song and dance about it. Look, a paranormal experience can be a lot of different things and most of da time they arent so obvious. Granted,I saw a spirit twice on two separate occasions (Im not going to go into detail to 'explain'/elaborate because various people are no doubt already rollin their eyes),but the majority of my paranormal experiences have been related to sort of precognition (very small scale, in fairness like) and synchronicity,if thats what youd call it

Anything I see on TV is rubbish; "Most Haunted" comes to mind.

I dont watch any of that sh!te unless im on the lookout for a fcukin migraine. i chance an odd look at the show 'Medium' but I just think thats good in a detectivey way,if u knw what i mean.

A door creaks...

"What was that noise?!"

"It sounded like somebody crying"

"No it was a distinct utterance of a word"

"Somebody called out a name, did they?"

"No it sounded more like a growl, like RAWRGHGRR"

"It could be a werewolf"

Conclusion: It was a werewolf.

Ive never been that simplistic and impulsive in my estimation of what something is/was. Only a bona fide, livin-in-the-grand-colon of fcukwheresville, sh!t shovelling simpleton would come up with that sort of craic

I'm sure you can understand why skeptics think the way they do.

you talk about these skeptics like theyre a separate sub-species of the human race. We all have the ability to discern, analyse, and conclude, etc.

I don't believe in Ouija Boards ( after trying a few times )

Did you expect the glass to move by itself or furniture to start flying around the place?

ghosts, mediums, psychics

I do, but the latter two are only n the very, very small minority. as in,the ones that are 'developed' to a very significant degree to da point where they can 'read' for people

the Area 51 conspiracy

I dont believe n that.

reincarnation... There is no evidence, and if any "evidence" is put forward, it is as shoddy as a knacker's trap.

yeah,theres no evidence of reincarnation being the real deal, so Im in two minds about it all. Undecided until I see fit 2 believe it

People want to believe in ghosts, so anything that may be evidence in favour of ghosts is seen as solid.

Ive never wanted to believe in ghosts. I just remember from my earliest years as far back as Im able to remember that i believed there was something else there.Im talkin since the age of 4 like. that was well before I was old enough to be 'entertained' w/ ghost stories and the like. the only thing I was told about early on was The Boogieman/Bogeyman,but that was only 2 prevent me from goin outside in the dark alone

A creepy noise in an abandoned hospital. It could have been the wind, but it was more than likely a ghost!!!

An already nervous person would probably think/say that 2 begin with,but if they had any grain of sense,they'd say soon afterwards,"Ah sure,it was only the wind comin through that partially boarded set of windows over there,or whatever".

I'm sitting with my dogs right now. Dogs love to protect their territory. They are geared towards that.

Sure God love us! What breed are they? Did u give them names? Pookie 1 and Pookie 2?! Joking..

My dogs bark at any noise outside the house. A car passes, it must be an intruder!!! Some strange bird caws, intruder alert!!! Even if I say the word "woof", they run to the door and ready themselves for action. But are there any intruders? Nope.

Dogs are far less developed in the brain dept than humans,so thats hardly a fair comparison. But yeah, all dogs (and even cats) do that.

The X-Files slogan was "I want to believe".

I always thought the X Files was sh!te. Even at the height of its popularity,I couldnt bring myself 2 sit through a full episode. Dozey boll1x Mulder/Mouldy mumbling gobbledegook and his carrot head colleague hovering along by his side. Sh!te. The movie of that last year was sh!te as well,but Billy Connolly made me laugh. Good old Big Yin.

And if you guys want to believe, you will cherry pick any piece of evidence, no matter how small, and sell it as proof.

I havent been a paranormal salesman to date.Ive just been ramblin on about my experiences and such on this forum because it seemed like the right place for it. Im not tryin to prove anythin to anybody. The Jehovahs Witnesses are runnin around tryin to peddle their gospel to people and theyre nice lads/ladies,but I stick wit my own faith and let them go on their merry way. At the end of the day,we all (Jehovahs, myself, et al) share a basic belief that theres a higher power somewhere and all that. Its just the finer details of their religion that exterminate my interest. My 'piece of evidence' about paranormal stuff can be as small or as big as it likes - its my own personal 'evidence' and im not tryin to force it down anyone elses oesphagus. And again, Im not n the business of sellin proof of the paranormal. Im just interested n talkin about it wit people wit open/open-ish minds. That is all.

edit: oh yeah and crop circles are made by humans.

I don't believe in crop circles. A creative farmer wit landscaping experience got jumped up on a very powerful 'stimulant' one night, then jumped on his tractor, drove all around a big field, and the result da next morning was a 'crop circle'.

Cormac2791

hard to know what to think

Genghiz Cohen

Was reading in bed last night. Everything was really quiet.
Then suddenly it was like something punched the bed right beside me, like a proper thump.
I've never had anything like that happen to me before, it was really spooky.

Until I though about it and it was probably a bed spring that was slightly out of place. That or a poltergeist...

Overblood

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

Define what you mean by 'a paranormal experience'?

This is the definition I'd most agree with:

An event or perception is said to be paranormal if it involves forces or agencies that are beyond scientific explanation. Many paranormal events are said to be experienced only by those with psychic powers, such as extrasensory perception or psychokinesis.

So I'm looking for personal experiences that can not be explained by science.

Paranormal can cover a lot of things. Like,have u ever been thinking of a song, a person you know, or a public figure, and then you switched on the TV, radio, opened a newspaper and there they are,

Do you think it's possible that the above is pure coincidence? What about all the times when that doesn't happen? I'm sure it doesn't happen much more often than it does. If that sort of thing happened every single time you turned on a tv or radio, or opened a newspaper, then something strange is going on. But if that happens rarely... why invoke mystery and magic when it does?

If you won the lotto, would you describe that as a paranormal experience?

or the person you know that you were thinking about then called/texted u?

Yes that has happened to me before, and I say to myself: "What a coincidence!" When this happens to you, what do you say to yourself?

I was emailing a friend n London a few months ago and I was responding 2 him goin on about castles (he wants to live n one someday). I started taking the p!ss out of Enya, who lives n a castle, and talkin about how she seems 2 hide in there and if she ever goes out even to push a shopping trolley around Tesco. 3 days later,who appears on the Late Late show w/ Prat Kenny for a chat, only Enya! :pac:

What does that mean to you? Does that mean that you are psychic in some way?

Granted,I saw a spirit twice on two separate occasions (Im not going to go into detail to 'explain'/elaborate because various people are no doubt already rollin their eyes)

Can you PM me the story so?

the majority of my paranormal experiences have been related to sort of precognition (very small scale, in fairness like) and synchronicity,if thats what youd call it

Can those paranormal experience be explained by common sense and science?

Ive never been that simplistic and impulsive in my estimation of what something is/was. Only a bona fide, livin-in-the-grand-colon of fcukwheresville, sh!t shovelling simpleton would come up with that sort of craic

Haha! Good.

you talk about these skeptics like theyre a separate sub-species of the human race. We all have the ability to discern, analyze, and conclude, etc.

We are actually a separate Super-species.... JOKING!

With your abilities to discern etc... can you truthfully say that when you think of enya, then three days later you see her on TV, you have had a paranormal experience that cannot be explained by science?

Did you expect the [oiija board] glass to move by itself or furniture to start flying around the place?

Well isn't the glass supposed to move by itself? Or isn't something spooky supposed to happen?

Overblood

suey71 wrote: »

How about an orb the size of a basket ball floating across your kitchen table at dinner time with the lights on.

If you've seen this with your own two eyes then fair enough.

By the way, I'm not here to actively disprove anything anyone says, I just want the experiences that most strengthen your paranormal beliefs.

suey71 wrote: »

Or how about when your cousin dies and your 12 year old little brother and 10 year old sister and 2 of their friends see her spirit just after she dies/same time out in the back garden. And all of the electrical appliances in the house turn on by themselves and the TV comes on and changes channels on its own and all the windows and doors open by themselves,

Sure if I saw this myself I'd be quite spooked as well. Did you see the doors and windows opening by themselves?

Overblood

iamhunted wrote: »

In one particular place I lived (compeltely detached home):

TVs and Radios would randomly turn on

Lights would dim/brighten (with no dimmer) or switch off completely. this would happen in individual rooms (different ones at different times) and not with all the lights at the one time.

Various voices from moans, whispers and sighs - usually unmistakenly right in the ear. And I mean almost inside the ear - theres just no way the sounds came from across the room etc etc.

Noises of things falling off walls - very loud distinct and clear. Obviously after checking, nothing would have fallen off the wall.

Things being moved/missing and then reappearing. One incident with an alarm clock - wasnt there at night (I had looked for it) and in the morning was in a position where it just wasnt before I went to sleep.

Soudns of people walking up the corridor and going into one particular room. this had me fooled for a few months as I actually thought it was one of the kids, until I realised there never was the sounds of someone going back down the hall. eventually, i eneded up waiting for the sounds of somone coming coming up the hall and would check as soon as I heard it - but there'd be no-one there

Theres more but you get the jist.

That's the classic poltergeist scenario isn't it? If that was happening right now in my house I'd be checking the electrics. But the groans and moans in my ear would freak me out.

Could you make out what the whispers were saying?

And when the lights switched off, were the actual light switches turned to the off position?

Overblood

Actually I think I may have had a paranormal experience last week. My clothesdryer is in the shed. I put some runners in and turned it on then went back inside. I returned to check on it like 30mins later and the dryer was turned off and the door was open... spooky eh?

The funny thing about ghosts trying to "tell you" something: If they have the power to open doors and windows, couldn't they just grab a pen and jot the "something" down?

hiorta

Here's a site where some very experienced people have been pursuing this quest for a long time.

http://spiritualistchatroom.forumotion.com/index.htm?sid=c78230133261c5ad8fffd0abeef8af0a

Make of it what you will, but is there any reason why our two worlds cannot overlap a little at times when the conditions are right?

DANNY22XX

Overblood wrote: »

Actually I think I may have had a paranormal experience last week. My clothesdryer is in the shed. I put some runners in and turned it on then went back inside. I returned to check on it like 30mins later and the dryer was turned off and the door was open... spooky eh?

The funny thing about ghosts trying to "tell you" something: If they have the power to open doors and windows, couldn't they just grab a pen and jot the "something" down?

they are trying to tell you not to dry your runners in the dryer it will dint the drum,and the lock on the door

Overblood

DANNY22XX wrote: »

they are trying to tell you not to dry your runners in the dryer it will dint the drum,and the lock on the door

Oh. How nice of them.

suey71

Hi Overblood, jeeeez you where busy today:rolleyes:.

No I didnt see the doors fly open but 4 children did, and they all saw the same thing. The strange thing was the ghost of my cousin was of when she was about 12 and not her true age which was 29. She was standing in the middle of the garden looking at them while all the electrics and windows and doors where going crazy. My brother and sisters' 2 friends where not allowed to visit our house again or hang around my brother and sister. My brother met one of them a while ago and the first thing she mentioned was the ghost in the back garden. the ghost was sighted at 2pm and my parents where later told that the coronors report also said around 2pm. She died on her own so it was a few hours before her body was found. My bro and sis told my parents what they had seen before her body was found.

But I myself have seen a ghost.
I was working by myself one night in one of my old jobs when something caught my eye, I looked and saw a gray haired middle aged man wearing navy full lenght overalls walking towards me, looked at me then turned into a partition wall and was gone. I nearly shat myself, I grabbed the keys to lock up then went to throw them on a table about 2 feet away while I turned off the machine but before I threw them, I heard them landing. I still had the keys in my hand, I threw them anyway and they made the exact same sound.

I Bloody Legged it. Next day the boss told me that a canal worker was crushed to death against the side of the building by a canal barge before the canal was filled in in the 1970's.

I have experianced other stuff but my 2 fingers can only take so much:D bye.

Overblood

suey71 wrote: »

Hi Overblood, jeeeez you where busy today:rolleyes:.

eh?

iamhunted

logic says it couldnt really have been the electrics as an electrical problem would have had wider effects plus would happen maybe sporadically over time, not suddenly begin and then a certain amount of time later suddenly stop altogether.

The hall lights used to phsycially turn themselves off - switches and all. The whispers were normally sighs, except for the time my wifes name was called (why is it always 3 times?).

Long story, but it all sorted itself out in the end.

Overblood wrote: »

That's the classic poltergeist scenario isn't it? If that was happening right now in my house I'd be checking the electrics. But the groans and moans in my ear would freak me out.

Could you make out what the whispers were saying?

And when the lights switched off, were the actual light switches turned to the off position?

suey71

Hi Overblood. I meant busy writing. ie. lots of posts. sorry if you took it up the wrong way.

Micky 32

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Was reading in bed last night. Everything was really quiet.
Then suddenly it was like something punched the bed right beside me, like a proper thump.
I've never had anything like that happen to me before, it was really spooky.

Until I though about it and it was probably a bed spring that was slightly out of place. That or a poltergeist...

A friend of mine used to rent a house while his new one was getting built. he swears most nights he felt someone sit on the end of the bed!

However, i'm a skeptic. One of the things that make me sceptical is when someone says they saw a ghost or whatever it's not the only time they have seen them, they seem to see them a lot over their lifetime which i think it's odd over the 38 years alive i haven't seen even one.

iamhunted

its good to be skeptical - as in the true sense of the word.

jick the rapper

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Was reading in bed last night. Everything was really quiet.
Then suddenly it was like something punched the bed right beside me, like a proper thump.
I've never had anything like that happen to me before, it was really spooky.

Until I though about it and it was probably a bed spring that was slightly out of place. That or a poltergeist...

a spring popping in the mattress can make some wallop!

caught me out a few times :pac:

jick the rapper

iamhunted wrote: »

its good to be skeptical - as in the true sense of the word.

as in skeptical regarding the existance of ghosts in general, or skeptical when it comes to reviewing "evidence of ghosts?

or both?

iamhunted

I's day both.

skeptical as in not believing everything you're told but yet not cynical enough to not have at least some level of open mindedness.

In my book, if you only believe something when you definitely see it then you're cynical - for example, I have never seen a woolly mammoth but I'd be a cynic to say they never existed as I hadnt seen one.

On the other hand, I could legitimately be skeptical about it as long as I am open to change my mind by either seeing physical remains (as in a personal experience) or collecting enough supporting evidence to make me consider that mammoths existed.

jick the rapper

Good point.

But, while something like a mammoth has a good deal of evidence to imply its actual existence, ghosts don’t, it’s an innately intangible field, which in turn is reflected in all the “evidence” presented as proof!

That’s why I’m an actual cynic when it comes to paranormal evidence.

Yet open minded in the sense that you can never really discount anything.

Not enough people are truly sceptical, although they would label themselves as such!

Too many are open minded though!

Such an enormous volume of crud presented as evidence these days.

Makes it hard to maintain the old open mind, dont ya think?

iamhunted

i totally agree which is why you'll find most of those who 'believe' in the paranormal in some way either have had an experience of their own or have recorded some form of audio/video information for themselves that intrigues them.

I think at this stage of the game, its a bit mad to either wholly rely on someone elses information or just 'believe' because you like the idea of it. Ive said this many times on here - if the paranormal is something that you really want to know more about, join or start a research group of some kind, give yourself some strict guidelines, use your common sense and see if you come up with anything that confounds yourself (and thats where you use the common sense). It doesnt really matter what anyone else thinks.

jick the rapper

iamhunted wrote: »

i totally agree which is why you'll find most of those who 'believe' in the paranormal in some way either have had an experience of their own or have recorded some form of audio/video information for themselves that intrigues them.

I think at this stage of the game, its a bit mad to either wholly rely on someone elses information or just 'believe' because you like the idea of it. Ive said this many times on here - if the paranormal is something that you really want to know more about, join or start a research group of some kind, give yourself some strict guidelines, use your common sense and see if you come up with anything that confounds yourself (and thats where you use the common sense). It doesnt really matter what anyone else thinks.

Ye, I’m slightly envious of those who have had paranormal experiences.

I think it provides more impetus to keep on slogging away, looking for hard evidence!

If indeed it exists!

Having been involved in a well established group, I feel I’ve investigated within the boundaries of “scientific” paranormal investigation, all the time employing logic and facts to the situation at hand.

And having not yielded anything significant myself, you start to question if there is anything to investigate!

That’s where personal experiences I’d imagine give you an aul boosht!

Like fishing for hours without any luck, and then you catch something and you feel you could fish for hours again!

But anyway, the interest is still there, just more sceptical then your average sceptic!

jick the rapper

(excuse the font, im typing on a Word page and pasting, trying to look like im working, boss is around )

iamhunted

again i agree. in our group we've found two or three EVPs that we cant work out. even if I hadnt lived in a house that gave me quite enough to think about paranormal wise, those EVPs keep me wondering.

If we hadnt found those or if I hadnt had the experiences I had, then I'd be a hellofa lot more cynical. at this stage it gets a bit frustrating as its clear to me that these things happen quite rarely and though we may seek, we just might never find. at the same time, if you arent looking you wont find anything so its a bit circular.

iamhunted

the one thing I do like about this 'research' is it lets us check out places we would have been told is haunted, or rumoured to be haunted and you;d be able to come back from such places with some rational explainations.

recently we were at a place where the gates apparrently wouldnt close and had to be cemented shut.

ends up the council cemented them for safety reasons after building a busy roadway. we wouldnt have found out that little nugget if we hadnt checked it out. its quite amazing how people can create, buildup and spread local 'folklore'.

Micky 32

iamhunted wrote: »

again i agree. in our group we've found two or three EVPs that we cant work out. even if I hadnt lived in a house that gave me quite enough to think about paranormal wise, those EVPs keep me wondering.

If we hadnt found those or if I hadnt had the experiences I had, then I'd be a hellofa lot more cynical. at this stage it gets a bit frustrating as its clear to me that these things happen quite rarely and though we may seek, we just might never find. at the same time, if you arent looking you wont find anything so its a bit circular.

EVP's? That's the voice thing? To me EVP's are what you want to hear when you listen for ages you hear things. It's a bit like looking at cloud formations. If you look long enough you can make shapes out etc.

iamhunted

very valid point. there's a lot of apparent EVPs that are either filtered so much that they end up sounding something completely different from what they are or are just low level noise that people hear things in. we once recorded one of us thumping a desk and byt he time we'd finished messing with it using audio filters such as those to 'clean' up a sound and we ended up with something that almost sounded like hullo.

On the other hand we have some clear ones that sound pretty unmistakable. theres one particular one at http://leinsterparanormal.com/v1/?page_id=17

Micky 32

Also not to forget radio waves interfering, IE 2way radios etc bleeding over.

iamhunted

thats not as common as you would think though - certainly possible, but I'd assume if radio interference was an issue then you;d get quite a lot more clear evps. In our own investigations mobiles phones are always off and the walkies are switched off during any kind of audio recording.

Plus you'd have to wonder why you get radio interference when you use a recorder in an investigation (in those very rare times you capture anything clearly) but not when you use the same recorder for any other recording purposes.

iamhunted

at the same time I dont believe EVPs *have* to be paranormal, but no matter if it is or if its some unknown environmental issue, I find it interesting.

MrMojoRisin

Overblood wrote: »

Do you think it's possible that the above is pure coincidence? What about all the times when that doesn't happen? I'm sure it doesn't happen much more often than it does. If that sort of thing happened every single time you turned on a tv or radio, or opened a newspaper, then something strange is going on. But if that happens rarely... why invoke mystery and magic when it does?

Well, if they were/are coincidences,they happen more frequently than infrequently. I'm talkin several times each month,every month. The thing is, is that they are all very small scale,trivial sorts of things - nothin earth-shattering or life changing,but very real all the same (how can they not be,ffs?). one day a few years ago,I was inside n the motor taxation office and the bloke on the counter was a friendly and chatty sort. Prob because the place wasnt too jammed w/ people. He was askin me what neck of the woods I was from, so I told him and that it was near this other place, in case he hadnt heard of it,that this other place was a popular spot for people wanting to listen into overhead airplanes via two-way radios. Then he was like,'Oh yeah? Im from there and I'm up in that spot listenin in to the pilots a lot'. Me: 'Really? Cool. I think theres a 9.45 plane at night, as far as I know'. I dunno why I said that but that was the first thing that came into my head. Then he goes (wit a surprised look on his face):"I was up there last night waiting for the 9.45!". Then he thought I was completely off my game judging by the look on his face, and that was that. I was as surprised as him.

When I was younger, around 13/14 like,I used 2 hang around in our neighbourhood wit all the other kids, as u do. Around that time,there was this new fella ('Eoin') who moved into a house down the road wit his wife Francis. They hadnt been married for too long - about 2 years. She was a nurse and seemed v.nice because we'd be chatting 2 her when she was out doin gardening stuff. Thing was,I never liked Eoin or trusted him even. He invited myself and my buddy into the house one day and was showing us his new computer upstairs. Jason (buddy) thought Eoin was sound out and was like a fcukin lost puppy followin him around da place. i told him I didn't like the bloke but he didnt take any notice. But that day inside the house upstairs, Jason accidentally knocked over Eoin's big,fat computer manual on to the ground and there was a very brief flash of genuine anger from Eoin before he started acting all jokey about it. So,that was one thing that stood out.. Then he'd be 'jokingly' pushing and jostling Jason and myself around the place and slagging us,but I never saw much of a joke in it like I normally would with my mates. Everyone n our neighbourhood that had met the man seemed to think he was Captain fcuckin Fantastic

After a few months,stories started goin around about Eoin. One was where he took offence at something stupid and trivial that a neighbour had said and then pinned her 2 da wall by her neck and threatened her. So people started 2 have less to do wit him than before. Not long afterwards, Francis, Eoin's wife,seemed 2 disappear off somewhere else. A couple of months on from that, my mother got a phone call from Francis one night. Francis said she had left Eoin because he was abusive and violent towards her for the last two-three years,told my mother where she was (the general area,like),and begged her not to tell Eoin where she was. So that was that. That fcuker Eoin doesnt live there anymore and the last i heard was that he had lost his left eye in a car accident. Well,serves the bollix right for being a nasty wife beater.

If you won the lotto, would you describe that as a paranormal experience?

the lotto is just a systemised,ordered competition when it comes down to it. Like,somewhere along the line, it takes a selection of numbers from different sets of numbers and that makes up the Lotto results. Tbh,Ive only ever played the Lotto once n my life so far (but it was a quick pick!) and I got €34 out of it. Another time,I was on my break walkin around the streets when I spotted this reel/display of scratch cards inside a shop I was passing and I got a mad urge 2 go in and buy one. I hardly ever buy the things.So,in I went and bought it, went outside and scratched it, got a match and I won €50! It isnt a fortune but its nice 2 win something


[/QUOTE] Yes that has happened to me before, and I say to myself: "What a coincidence!" When this happens to you, what do you say to yourself? [/QUOTE]

At first,years ago, Id say 2 myself,"Great coincidence!" but I stopped thinkin that by da time I was n my early teens

What does that mean to you? Does that mean that you are psychic in some way?

To me,it means that theres some greater intelligence at work. Somethin far more important, far reaching and significant than msyelf. i used to roll my eyes at the "everything happens for a reason" line but im comin around to thinkin that they do. I reckon all the bad sh!t and good stuff that goes on in peoples lives or in da world is all part of a natural order. Im not tryin to sound all Cult Man but thats just wot I think. I wouldnt call myself psychic at all - Im sick of that fcukin word anyway at dis stage - but i might just be more aware of whats goin on around me sometimes. That might be a personality trait or my social conditioning. It might not have anythin to do wit psychism, but i still believe theres a greater power at work. I think every person might be able 2 influence da course of that power in a good way if their intentions are 'pure' (e.g. not motivated by greed). Gandhi wasn't talkin thru his [EMAIL="h@le"]h@le[/EMAIL] when he said that you should "be the change you want to see in the world". And shur,all of that stuff is red hot on the barometer nowadays because The Secret has been in the Top 5 of book bestsellers in Ireland for at least 2 years now.

Can those paranormal experiences be explained by common sense and science?

My particular ones? yeah,I know what youre saying. I remember reading somewhere that certain paranormal experiences can be explained away by the makeup of a person's brain chemistry. There were some studies done n Canada before that found that the level of some1's temporal lobe lability (their amount of electrical activity n the brain) might go some way 2wards explaining things like alien abduction, experiences of seeing/sensing ghosts and other paranormal stuff. I also read that its possible for a person to have a 'partial complex seizure' (a brain seizure, I think) w/o being aware of it, also goin some way 2wards explaining people experiencing unusual things. Ive used my common sense to figure out why i saw or sensed things otherwise,but I couldnt for the life of me understand how Id see a deceased relative standing n the middle of the road directly n front of me in broad daylight before disappearing right before I came to her. I was cycling along the road on my way to work when I was 17,it was a bright, clear morning, and theres my grandmother clear as day as if shes alive. No see through sh!t or feck all. Standing n the middle of the road. I thought it was some other old lady first before i got nearer to her and could make her out properly. If I was having a 'partial complex seizure'/brain seizure at the time, wouldnt u think I would have fallen off my bike?? I wasnt shocked when i saw her,funnily enough. No fear,and she didnt look threatening or even unhappy. I have no idea why she was there or HOW she was there either and i didnt think too much of it afterwards at the time. i didnt tell my mother or anyone else n our family because i thought they might be a bit spooked by it or think i was taking the p!ss

With your abilities to discern etc... can you truthfully say that when you think of enya, then three days later you see her on TV, you have had a paranormal experience that cannot be explained by science?

but how can my thought of Enya and how shes a recluse and then her appearing on a public chat show be explained by science ? Seriously? What could a scientist do 2 work that out? I honestly have no clue how that works. Id call the Enya thing a paranormal experience only because it ties into a load of other similar things over about 14/15 yrs. If it was an isolated incident id think nothing of it coz itd be pass remarkable

MrMojoRisin

iamhunted wrote: »

thats not as common as you would think though - certainly possible, but I'd assume if radio interference was an issue then you;d get quite a lot more clear evps. In our own investigations mobiles phones are always off and the walkies are switched off during any kind of audio recording.

Plus you'd have to wonder why you get radio interference when you use a recorder in an investigation (in those very rare times you capture anything clearly) but not when you use the same recorder for any other recording purposes.

what exactly is an EVP? Is it a special,tailored recording device or just an ordinary one wit a fancy,cryptic-sounding name?

MrMojoRisin

Overblood wrote: »

eh?

Id say she meant the "jeez,you were busy today" because u typed a lot of info/facts in your post before

iamhunted

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

what exactly is an EVP? Is it a special,tailored recording device or just an ordinary one wit a fancy,cryptic-sounding name?

evp stands for electronic voice phenomena - its where you set up a recording device - tape recorder, digital recorder, video recorder etc and when you review it you find other voices rather than from those who where present. It doesnt really matter what you use to record as long as it records decent quality audio.

Problem is most of the 'evps' you find on the web are complete rubbish.

Overblood

iamhunted wrote: »

evp stands for electronic voice phenomena - its where you set up a recording device - tape recorder, digital recorder, video recorder etc and when you review it you find other voices rather than from those who where present. It doesnt really matter what you use to record as long as it records decent quality audio.

Problem is most of the 'evps' you find on the web are complete rubbish.

What is the best EVP on the web you know of? The ones you already linked to aren't great.

Well, if they were/are coincidences,they happen more frequently than infrequently. I'm talkin several times each month,every month.

And from this you are convinced that there is a great intelligence at work? These coincidences are all very normal.

Coincidences happen every second and I bet you don't attach a mystical label to them. A sandstone pebble being washed around on a beach may come in contact with another sandstone pebble, both of which used to be a part of the same large rock.

A raindrop may fall directly through a raindrop-sized hole in somebodies roof and land in the attic cistern with all his H2O friends. If you were a raindrop, you'd expect to be splattered on a pavement, but this time you escaped due to a perfect raindrop sized hole.

Two competing lionesses take down the same zebra in the savannah. Both are sisters, they have been separated for the past 5 years, but they bump into eachother in all of the savannah during this hunt! Wow!

My point is, only when this happens to you do you think it has some sort of greater meaning. Stories like yours happen all the time. That's the way the world works. If there is a probability of something happening, it could happen! There's nothing mystical about it!

Two worms might pass eachother in the earth, both from the same mother. Haven't seen eachother in months and thay pass within millimeters of eachother! Do you think that scenario is awe inspiring? Would that make you embrace the idea of there being a greater intelligence?

Those coincidences (or "pre-cognition" is it?) are all probable, and if an event is probable (like you thinking about a friend and then they call you), why is it so mystical when it happens?

If I turn on the TV right now and find a show on probability... I'll laugh, but I won't invoke some sort of intelligent being.

one day a few years ago,I was inside n the motor taxation office and the bloke on the counter was a friendly and chatty sort. Prob because the place wasnt too jammed w/ people. He was askin me what neck of the woods I was from, so I told him and that it was near this other place, in case he hadnt heard of it,that this other place was a popular spot for people wanting to listen into overhead airplanes via two-way radios. Then he was like,'Oh yeah? Im from there and I'm up in that spot listenin in to the pilots a lot'. Me: 'Really? Cool. I think theres a 9.45 plane at night, as far as I know'. I dunno why I said that but that was the first thing that came into my head. Then he goes (wit a surprised look on his face):"I was up there last night waiting for the 9.45!". Then he thought I was completely off my game judging by the look on his face, and that was that. I was as surprised as him.

Good story, but is this really the sort of stuff that would make you believe in a higher power?

i used to roll my eyes at the "everything happens for a reason" line but im comin around to thinkin that they do.

Does absolutely everything happen for a reason?

I think every person might be able 2 influence da course of that power in a good way if their intentions are 'pure' (e.g. not motivated by greed). Gandhi wasn't talkin thru his h@le when he said that you should "be the change you want to see in the world". And shur,all of that stuff is red hot on the barometer nowadays because The Secret has been in the Top 5 of book bestsellers in Ireland for at least 2 years now.

Don't get me started on the feckin "secret"! The fact that it's called a secret should ring major alarm bells in any sane persons head. I'm all for positive thinking (I will become the best manager in my business), but something that tells gullible minds that they can sit at home and imagine Lamourghinis to their door deserves to be taken out and shot.

I remember reading somewhere that certain paranormal experiences can be explained away by the makeup of a person's brain chemistry. There were some studies done n Canada before that found that the level of some1's temporal lobe lability (their amount of electrical activity n the brain) might go some way 2wards explaining things like alien abduction, experiences of seeing/sensing ghosts and other paranormal stuff. I also read that its possible for a person to have a 'partial complex seizure' (a brain seizure, I think) w/o being aware of it, also goin some way 2wards explaining people experiencing unusual things. Ive used my common sense to figure out why i saw or sensed things otherwise,

I was in no way saying that there's something wrong with your brain chemistry! I was just saying that your encounters seemed to be mere coincidences.

I was cycling along the road on my way to work when I was 17,it was a bright, clear morning, and theres my grandmother clear as day as if shes alive. No see through sh!t or feck all. Standing n the middle of the road. I thought it was some other old lady first before i got nearer to her and could make her out properly. If I was having a 'partial complex seizure'/brain seizure at the time, wouldnt u think I would have fallen off my bike?? I wasnt shocked when i saw her,funnily enough. No fear,and she didnt look threatening or even unhappy. I have no idea why she was there or HOW she was there either and i didnt think too much of it afterwards at the time. i didnt tell my mother or anyone else n our family because i thought they might be a bit spooked by it or think i was taking the p!ss

Well jaysus if I saw the ghost of my dead grandmother in front of me on a clear sunny morning, I'd have to accept that as fact, and then start believing in ghosts. But any evidence for ghosts I can get my hands on is either crappy photos & videos, or anecdotes, like your story. I fully believe that you saw it, but do I think your granny's ghost was really standing on the road that morning? I dunno.

but how can my thought of Enya and how shes a recluse and then her appearing on a public chat show be explained by science ? Seriously? What could a scientist do 2 work that out?

You wouldn't even need to be a scientist. Common sense can tell you that this scenario is simply probable. It could happen. Even if enya called to your door looking for directions, I still wouldn't add a mystical edge to it. But of course you are free to if you want. But if something could happen, and then it does, how is that evidence of a greater intelligence?

iamhunted

i dont think you'll find a more clearer one than the second one on that linked page

MrMojoRisin

iamhunted wrote: »

evp stands for electronic voice phenomena - its where you set up a recording device - tape recorder, digital recorder, video recorder etc and when you review it you find other voices rather than from those who where present. It doesnt really matter what you use to record as long as it records decent quality audio.

Problem is most of the 'evps' you find on the web are complete rubbish.

Ah right,i see

TaxiManMartin

When i was 12 myself and a few siblings and cousins around the same age had a sleepover so decided to have a seance.

Myself and my brother had the whole house rigged up.

string going under the carpet tied to candlesticks and then to our legs.

an oscillating fan going in the upstairs bedroom you could barely hear at all downstairs.

the kettle boiling in the kitchen with the doors open and the button taped down, slowly filling the place with steam. Washing up liquid on our fingers writing "Die" on the windows.

A 60 minute tape playing upstairs on full volume with lots of banging and voices we made up which would come on at about 20 minutes.

......

So we turned off the lights and did the "is anybody there stuff for a couple of minutes." It all went quiet. You could hear the fan creaking upstairs and that scared them all.

Then a bit of mad movements from me pretending i was possessed. Pulling one leg with a string and the candlestick flies off the window sill.

Then i did the voice. "Die", "Die" and the brother says "Dont break the circle".

He pulls with his leg and the curtains move. I do the same with my other leg and the lamp in the corner falls over.

He pulls his other leg and a bar attached to some wire under the fire embers jumps up, sparks everywhere.

Then the tape kicks in with banging and screaming and voices we got off the telly.

And to top it all off we break the circle and turn on the lights while they are all scared ****less. The steam is all over the windows by now and where we traced out the messages on the windows has all come up, including the name of a legendary ghost from our area. It was class.

They were terrified out of their pants. When the parents came back that night we ended up all sleeping in the same room because none of them would go anywhere on their own.

We were afraid they would kill us if we ever told them it was us. One posts on supernatural fora about his experience when he was a child. Sorry Cormac

All this and we were only 12 and 13 years old.

Imagine what someone with proper electronics could do.

There are only 3 possible explanations when supernatural things happen to you.

1 - You were mistaken.
2 - You were tricked.
3 - You are nuts.

MrMojoRisin

Overblood wrote: »

And from this you are convinced that there is a great intelligence at work? These coincidences are all very normal.

Coincidences happen every second and I bet you don't attach a mystical label to them. A sandstone pebble being washed around on a beach may come in contact with another sandstone pebble, both of which used to be a part of the same large rock.

A raindrop may fall directly through a raindrop-sized hole in somebodies roof and land in the attic cistern with all his H2O friends. If you were a raindrop, you'd expect to be splattered on a pavement, but this time you escaped due to a perfect raindrop sized hole.

Two competing lionesses take down the same zebra in the savannah. Both are sisters, they have been separated for the past 5 years, but they bump into each other in all of the savannah during this hunt! Wow!

My point is, only when this happens to you do you think it has some sort of greater meaning. Stories like yours happen all the time. That's the way the world works. If there is a probability of something happening, it could happen! There's nothing mystical about it!

Two worms might pass each other in the earth, both from the same mother. Haven't seen each other in months and thay pass within millimeters of each other! Do you think that scenario is awe inspiring? Would that make you embrace the idea of there being a greater intelligence?

Those coincidences (or "pre-cognition" is it?) are all probable, and if an event is probable (like you thinking about a friend and then they call you), why is it so mystical when it happens?

If I turn on the TV right now and find a show on probability... I'll laugh, but I won't invoke some sort of intelligent being.

Yes, yes, I think Ive gotten the gist of what youre trying to say. I cant bothered tryin to sift through every single thing you said, no offence like, but it's become very clear that you have YOUR own set, fixed views on what is coincidental (all of it) and what is 'mystical' (nothing). Theres no point in me sayin i think such a thing and that that's my belief,wit a real life example attached to it, because your on a completely different wavelength. I dont need yourself to conjure up myriad, long winded examples of coincidences that might occur within the mighty animal kingdom and God knows what else for me. Seriously man. Im big enough and ugly enough 2 be able to differentiate between coincidences and 'miracles', mystical happenings, etc.

Tbh, I reckon that most people's personal belief in the paranormal and what actually is paranormal is informed by the person's family and upbringing, and their personality. And 'birds of a feather flock together', as they say. Now, you either have an openness to this stuff or you dont - if u happen to be one of those people that are open to it,that doesn't mean youre a gullible, intellectually defective twat. If anything, the people I know who most believe n this type of thing have been less likely to suffer fools gladly in life because they're the type of people 2 scratch below the surface. Im sure you're fella w/ an investigative turn of mind and all, but that tendency isn't hindered at all by following ur gut instincts from day to day as well. Well, all in all, it's pretty pointless in me saying anythin more on this particular point because you either choose to believe it or u don't.

Good story, but is this really the sort of stuff that would make you believe in a higher power?

'Good story'?? what is it, 'The Tales Of Beedle The Bard' or somethin?? No,that erm.. sort of stuff (?) alone does not make me believe n a higher power. The belief has been there since i was a small kid and has been strengthened through life experiences. And my life has been all da better for it. everyone that knows me says Im a direct,no nonsense (and 'intimidating' apparently?) sorta guy whos always clear and straightforward about things, and thats true to an extent,but I have an iron spiritual backbone to go with it. I presume youre an atheist or somethin like that,so any sense of spiritual belief or faith makes no sense to you

Does absolutely everything happen for a reason?

You can figure that out for yourself over time

Don't get me started on the feckin "secret"! The fact that it's called a secret should ring major alarm bells in any sane persons head. I'm all for positive thinking (I will become the best manager in my business), but something that tells gullible minds that they can sit at home and imagine Lamourghinis to their door deserves to be taken out and shot.

Like with any 'self-help' book, I think it should all be taken wit da tiniest pinch of salt. I wouldnt take it all as gospel. Da same as you take what you need or what serves u well from anything you do, the same would b advisable of reading anythin you get your paws on,so 2 speak! Parts of The Secret are good and weirdly empowering for a short while,but I have it on good knowledge that the author, the contributors, and all the other plebs involved in The Secret have made a fcuckin FORTUNE (and continue 2 do so) outta it all. Its a very well marketed literary franchise that peddles the advice that crosses over to all nationalities and cultures. The Secret is a handy,clever little re-packaging/re-cycling of ancient 'wisdom' that has been doin the rounds in numerous texts for yonks and yonks

I was in no way saying that there's something wrong with your brain chemistry! I was just saying that your encounters seemed to be mere coincidences.

whatever u say..

Well jaysus if I saw the ghost of my dead grandmother in front of me on a clear sunny morning, I'd have to accept that as fact, and then start believing in ghosts. But any evidence for ghosts I can get my hands on is either crappy photos & videos, or anecdotes, like your story. I fully believe that you saw it, but do I think your granny's ghost was really standing on the road that morning? I dunno.

I honestly dont care whether or not YOU think my granny's ghost was really standing on the road that morning. When you manage to see a ghost/spirit in the future, youll know immediately whether it's a hallucination or the real deal

Even if enya called to your door looking for directions, I still wouldn't add a mystical edge to it. But of course you are free to if you want. But if something could happen, and then it does, how is that evidence of a greater intelligence?

yeah, i am free to do that. Just because something odd happens doesnt mean thats evidence of a greater intelligence on its own - it's one tiny aspect of a vast, complex puzzle or whatever u want to call it. Personally, it's been the belief of something outside myself and the everyday world that was there, followed by things in my life that, IMO, corroborated that belief I already had. As I said, if ur belief n all this isnt there from childhood, it's unlikely you're going to take anything allegedly paranormal seriously. The belief is either there or it isnt. Im not tryin to convert you or anyone else. I cant be bothered,tbh w/ u. Whatever u want to believe in or disregard or incorporate into your perspective of life is your own prerogative.

MrMojoRisin

TaxiManMartin wrote: »

When i was 12 myself and a few siblings and cousins around the same age had a sleepover so decided to have a seance.

Myself and my brother had the whole house rigged up.

string going under the carpet tied to candlesticks and then to our legs.

an oscillating fan going in the upstairs bedroom you could barely hear at all downstairs.

the kettle boiling in the kitchen with the doors open and the button taped down, slowly filling the place with steam. Washing up liquid on our fingers writing "Die" on the windows.

A 60 minute tape playing upstairs on full volume with lots of banging and voices we made up which would come on at about 20 minutes.

......

So we turned off the lights and did the "is anybody there stuff for a couple of minutes." It all went quiet. You could hear the fan creaking upstairs and that scared them all.

Then a bit of mad movements from me pretending i was possessed. Pulling one leg with a string and the candlestick flies off the window sill.

Then i did the voice. "Die", "Die" and the brother says "Dont break the circle".

He pulls with his leg and the curtains move. I do the same with my other leg and the lamp in the corner falls over.

He pulls his other leg and a bar attached to some wire under the fire embers jumps up, sparks everywhere.

Then the tape kicks in with banging and screaming and voices we got off the telly.

And to top it all off we break the circle and turn on the lights while they are all scared ****less. The steam is all over the windows by now and where we traced out the messages on the windows has all come up, including the name of a legendary ghost from our area. It was class.

They were terrified out of their pants. When the parents came back that night we ended up all sleeping in the same room because none of them would go anywhere on their own.

We were afraid they would kill us if we ever told them it was us. One posts on supernatural fora about his experience when he was a child. Sorry Cormac

All this and we were only 12 and 13 years old.

Imagine what someone with proper electronics could do.

Your story is very nice and creative and all,but how in the name of fcuck is that a personal 'paranormal' experience ?

There are only 3 possible explanations when supernatural things happen to you.

1 - You were mistaken.

no, i wasnt. My eyesight is grand and I have never suffered and do not suffer from visual hallucinations.

2 - You were tricked.

Nope. When I saw my nan, I was by myself on the road with not a sinner in sight. Even if some1 had 'planted' an auld wan in the centre of the road, they would have had some tricky job trying to remove her at lightning speed again while I was still looking straight at her.

3 - You are nuts.

My mental health is and has always been fine

LCDeelite

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

Tbh, I reckon that most people's personal belief in the paranormal and what actually is paranormal is informed by the person's family and upbringing, and their personality. And 'birds of a feather flock together', as they say. Now, you either have an openness to this stuff or you dont.

Well, all in all, it's pretty pointless in me saying anythin more on this particular point because you either choose to believe it or u don't.

Personally, it's been the belief of something outside myself and the everyday world that was there, followed by things in my life that, IMO, corroborated that belief I already had. As I said, if ur belief n all this isnt there from childhood, it's unlikely you're going to take anything allegedly paranormal seriously. The belief is either there or it isnt. Im not tryin to convert you or anyone else. I cant be bothered,tbh w/ u. Whatever u want to believe in or disregard or incorporate into your perspective of life is your own prerogative.

That's very true - you either possess an inherent belief in this stuff from childhood, or you don't believe in any of it at all. Personally, I believe in the existence of a higher power and the whole 'life after death' thing, but those beliefs have been there since I was a small child.

Mojo's right - you either believe it or you don't, and the people who are 'converted' to believing in this stuff through some bizarre or unexplainable experiences later on in their lives are definitely in the minority.

Overblood

Well I don't believe in this stuff so far... but thanks Mojo and others for taking the time and effort to explain your position. I'm surprised I didn't get more responses, especially from the mods of this forum. I'm sure they'd have the coolest experiences to share of them all, no?

getz

never had any experiences untill about 10 years ago, that was when i had a look at the bronte museum in haworth,from that time i often feel a that a victorian woman is sat next to me in the car,also many times i seem to know when the phone is going to ring,even to the stage i will walk over to it ,then it rings i pick it up and know even before the person speaks who it is, when i walk into old buildings i seam to feel happyness/sadness,but my biggest was in feb in a old cottage in wicklow when sitting by a very old fireplace two young girls made an appearance in victorian clothes just for a few seconds then vanished. i am now looking forward to the next one

TaxiManMartin

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

Your story is very nice and creative and all,but how in the name of fcuck is that a personal 'paranormal' experience ?

It i a personal story of creating what others perceive to be a paranormal experience. I thought that was obvious.

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

no, i wasnt. My eyesight is grand and I have never suffered and do not suffer from visual hallucinations.

Often people who are mistaken, dont believe they are mistaken. Otherwise they wouldnt be mistaken, would they.

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

Nope. When I saw my nan, I was by myself on the road with not a sinner in sight. Even if some1 had 'planted' an auld wan in the centre of the road, they would have had some tricky job trying to remove her at lightning speed again while I was still looking straight at her.

Its more likely you were hallucinating than it being your nan though isnt it?

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

My mental health is and has always been fine

Very often is the case with mental health problems that the person who is sick doesnt know it until they see a doctor over it.
There is much more evidence and research to support mental illnesses than there is to support paranormal happenings. Why do you think this is?

Oryx

Overblood wrote: »

Well I don't believe in this stuff so far... but thanks Mojo and others for taking the time and effort to explain your position. I'm surprised I didn't get more responses, especially from the mods of this forum. I'm sure they'd have the coolest experiences to share of them all, no?

Of course we do.

Tbh, Im here years, and Ive been there, said it all before. Dont want to be a stuck record. Particularly with someone who wont believe me anyway.

But as for seeing ghosts, hearing noises etc, that pretty much never happens to me. And even if it did, Id look for a rational reason till Im blue in the face, before accepting it as paranormal. The more profound experiences of mine have been subtler, and could be described as more subjective I suppose. But taken as a whole, my experiences have convinced me. Like anything, its not a single episode that changes your mindset, its the building body of personal evidence.

Overblood

Oryx wrote: »

Of course we do.

Tbh, Im here years, and Ive been there, said it all before. Dont want to be a stuck record. Particularly with someone who wont believe me anyway.

Please tell me!

I won't mention if I believe it or not so. I'll just go "mm-hmmm", as if I were a psychotherapist.