Someone is using my photograph

http://www.makemytrip.com/holidays-international/510-irish_experience.html

In the gallery, the photograph of Wexford is mine from here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bayesian/3224607877/in/set-72157613036741155/)

Do I send an invoice? Ask them to take it down?

TheInquisitor

No benefit for you in them taking it down. Id say send them an invoice. Don't go crazy with the amount though.

Your work though you deserve to be compensated

How much is the norm for such a thing?

I sent them an invoice for €35.

Should be interesting to see what happens.

CabanSail

What really annoys me is that these web designers think they can just pull images from a site & use them like that. You wonder how many of the other images on the site have been stolen too.

dazftw

How did you know they were using it? Through flickr? Also how did you go about sending them an invoice? Just like a normal email?

I always see these threads but never understood how to actually send an invoice.. Apart from the ones you get when you buy stuff online or in a shop..

Tallon

Deleted User wrote: »

I sent them an invoice for €35.

Easiest €35 you'll ever make, lol

But that must annoy you, I have to admit id be pretty annoyed if I just stumble across something like that

Anouilh

There should be no problem about sorting it out. Your photo is clearly marked "All Rights Reserved"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_rights_reserved

DaireQuinlan

Tallon wrote: »

Easiest €35 you'll ever make, lol

Chances are they'll just ignore the invoice and maybe quietly take down the picture, even that's probably a best case scenario

dazftw

dazftw wrote: »

How did you know they were using it? Through flickr? Also how did you go about sending them an invoice? Just like a normal email?

I always see these threads but never understood how to actually send an invoice.. Apart from the ones you get when you buy stuff online or in a shop..

total fluke, that image came up through a google search and I tracked it back to see on what page it was. Their image was ranked higher then mine.

I just emailed them. The website had a livechat where I talked to an agent to get an email address. Nothing back yet from there.

Sligome

the pic they are using is slightly cropped, have you noticed

Tallon

DaireQuinlan wrote: »

Chances are they'll just ignore the invoice and maybe quietly take down the picture, even that's probably a best case scenario

Good point, it may be a good idea to Print screen it

Good point.

My flickr stats spiked today! 165 views overall, 115 of 'that photo', 71% from boards!

beans

At least one of the other photos on the 'Wexford' page has been taken from another flickr user. I'd say if you searched around, you could find more.

What?
All those are my own.

Ballyman

Deleted User wrote: »

What?
All those are my own.

Slow down there chief.

Read what he said again and then take a step back and have a little think

beans

More photos on the Irish Experience website seem to have their origins on flickr, that's all

Check out the one from

'Wexford Baginbun Bay'

Cool, thought you meant the 'Wexford' set of mine.

No contact back from there.

Anouilh

A lot of sites use agencies to find photos for them, so you may have to discover who it is exactly who chose to upload your photo in the first place, which is time consuming... as this blogger found:

http://blog.twilightfairy.in/2008/09/01/toi-believes-flickr-is-for-flicking/

I spent some time looking at copyright about 18 months ago and it was a revelation.

http://members.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=58296185

I stopped uploading photos directly to Blogger because of the way they were searched by Google and found Flickr better.

At the moment I'm uploading directly to Boards.ie as it saves time and energy. Perhaps this could be a safe option for you too?

star.chaser

Deleted User wrote: »

I sent them an invoice for €35.

Should be interesting to see what happens.

if they don't pay, make a copyright infringement complaint. it's likely that they got all their photos from flickr. actually, don't waste your time. They're based in india

Saint_Mel

star.chaser wrote: »

if they don't pay, make a copyright infringement complaint. it's likely that they got all their photos from flickr. actually, don't waste your time. They're based in india

Or put a copyright/watermark on all pics you upload

sineadw

As a web designer I just DO NOT understand this behaviour - legal stock photos can be used for literally a few quid. If you do hear back from them, you might want to point out that their web designers have placed them in what could be a very awkward legal situation for the sake of a pittance. And they probably spent thousands on the site. Grrr.. gives us all a bad name :mad:

I hope you get paid

PaulieC

TinEye is a great resource for finding out if your photos are being used elsewhere. I just spent half an hour having a gander...seems you're not the only one this is happening to...

Tallon

cambo_gueno wrote: »

TinEye is a great resource for finding out if your photos are being used elsewhere.

If it worked.......


EDIT: Sorry, it seems to work sometimes....


http://www.jazzbiscuit.com/2008/06/18/boardsie-the-leaving-cert-cheating-and-live-line/

PaulieC

Tallon wrote: »

If it worked.......


EDIT: Sorry, it seems to work sometimes....


http://www.jazzbiscuit.com/2008/06/18/boardsie-the-leaving-cert-cheating-and-live-line/

May I politely direct you to post #16 in this thread ....

IIMII

Deleted User wrote: »

Do I send an invoice? Ask them to take it down?

Yeah, same thing just happened here..

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055588835

Tallon

cambo_gueno wrote: »

May I politely direct you to post #16 in this thread ....

you can direct me to it, but the dam thing still doesnt work 8 times out of 10

PaulieC

Tallon wrote: »

you can direct me to it, but the dam thing still doesnt work 8 times out of 10

you mean it doesn't find anything? Maybe the pictures you are looking for don't exist anywhere else ?

Tallon

cambo_gueno wrote: »

you mean it doesn't find anything? Maybe the pictures you are looking for don't exist anywhere else ?

No, im looking for pictures I know are in 2+ places....

Anyway, getting a bit off topic here.

Any word back yet zaraba??

Kintarō Hattori

Tallon wrote: »

No, im looking for pictures I know are in 2+ places....

Anyway, getting a bit off topic here.

Any word back yet zaraba??

I have to agree. I tried it there with some images of mine that are used on a few blogs, it didn't find anything.

Anouilh

Tallon wrote: »

No, im looking for pictures I know are in 2+ places....?

I think a photo has to be quite high profile to show up with more than one link in Tinyeye.

For example:

http://tineye.com/search/159cdca8c8f0ada88d5492d5a609704d1683179f

The photo showed up at once, but it is not being used in any context on the net.

Bloggers are getting great mileage out of Flickr flicking...

http://mutiny.in/2008/09/26/toi-flicks-an-image-off-flickr-again/

This is an age-old problem. What strikes me is the number of photos on Flickr that are almost identical. I play a sort of "snap" game to see who has been to the same place and taken similar photos as my own.

What photo sharing site is the safest if one wishes to protect work?

No word back yet, but my flickr stats are through the roof! 300 views for that photo now.

I'll just start watermarking, the images I guess. Is there an easy way to do this in GIMP?

I flickrmailed the owner of that other wexford image on the site, he wrote back and didn't seem surprised about them doing this. He is contacting them as well today.

Saint_Mel

Deleted User wrote: »

No word back yet, but my flickr stats are through the roof! 300 views for that photo now.

I'll just start watermarking, the images I guess. Is there an easy way to do this in GIMP?

http://www.ehow.com/how_2176726_watermark-digital-art-using-gimp.html

TheWealth

Deleted User wrote: »

No word back yet, but my flickr stats are through the roof! 300 views for that photo now.

I'll just start watermarking, the images I guess. Is there an easy way to do this in GIMP?

I guess everything has a silver lining!!!

smcelhinney

As an aside zaraba, your Wexford set is very good, some photos with fantastic composition.

To put this all very bluntly - it is the internet!! this should be expected, mark your photos if you dont want them used.

For what purposes do you put your photos on flickr for?

dazftw

Any replies? Im curious to see what happen?

Nope, not expecting much tbh.

I put them up so people could see them I guess - get feedback etc etc..

Fajitas!

Deleted User wrote: »

To put this all very bluntly - it is the internet!! this should be expected, mark your photos if you dont want them used.

For what purposes do you put your photos on flickr for?

I hate that attitude. It's the same one as "serves you right for being in town after dark" and "what did you expect, having an expensive phone like that".

Anouilh

Fajitas! wrote: »

I hate that attitude. It's the same one as "serves you right for being in town after dark" and "what did you expect, having an expensive phone like that".

While I agree that "I told you so" is not helpful, I know more people who have been mugged after dark (including myself) than during the day and who have, when taking risks, exposed themselves to more annoyances to those who take no risks at all.

I have found links to my Flickr photos on various sites around the net. Most of them have the honourable practice of linking back to the original page.

Tallon

Deleted User wrote: »

For what purposes do you put your photos on flickr for?

I think I know what your trying to say, but in fairness every picture on the site does have All rights reserved

Plus the general rule of the internet is you can't use a picture without permission

Tallon

ah lads its not an "i told you so attitude" but you have to realise the amount of piracy on the internet. It IS to be expected. My advice is that you watermark it.

Tallon wrote: »

Plus the general rule of the internet is you can't use a picture without permission

I will often do a google images search and if i find a nice pic I will use it as a wallpaper. Anyone else ever do this? Anyone else ever download music? Anyone here download movies? Maybe ye dont but there are MILLIONS who do.

Mark photos that you dont want people to use is all Im saying and dont think that there arent websites ripping good quality photos and selling them as their own work too. Very naive to think otherwise.

Tallon wrote: »

but in fairness every picture on the site does have All rights reserved

Half the internet will not respect that at all.

Anouilh

I have a free Flickr account and have just discovered one of the advantages of not having a professional account. Original size photos cannot be dowloaded from a free account:

http://www.flickr.com/help/forum/27533/?search=originals

When using Internet sites to store large images, it would seem sensible to keep it private and accessible only to friends.

Fajitas!

With a 'Pro' account you can change your settings to not allow anyone see the larger image sizes.

smelltheglove

Fajitas is right, all of my images can be seen in one size only, you can allow large images but if you want to ensure nobody can steal a decent quality image you real should deactivate this.

AnCatDubh

Anouilh wrote: »

I have a free Flickr account and have just discovered one of the advantages of not having a professional account. Original size photos cannot be dowloaded from a free account:

http://www.flickr.com/help/forum/27533/?search=originals

When using Internet sites to store large images, it would seem sensible to keep it private and accessible only to friends.

This is one of the reasons that I dislike flickr - their terms and conditions which lets them hold onto the an original size not releasing it back to you (effectively) I hate. Having said that I now only upload 800px longest side images so I shouldn't let this worry me tbh It did bother me previously when I was looking for an original of one of my images in a hurray. I knew I had sent it to flickr but not having a pro account meant that they wouldn't give it back to me.

I think people should have a definite personal policy as to using online photo sites - as sharing - rather than a comprehensive backup solution.

smelltheglove

agreed also with an cat, i resize my images down even though i have a pro account.

Anouilh

Watermarking is also a deterrent and tips for making more subtle effects could be useful. I've started running copright notices along lines within a photograph:

http://shortsights.blogspot.com/2009/09/like-marks-in-water.html#links

It has also been said that popular photographers have their work taken less often than those who have a low profile.

i71jskz5xu42pb

Deleted User wrote: »

I sent them an invoice for €35.

Should be interesting to see what happens.

Indian company. I'd say you have little to no chance of getting your money. Or even a reply.

Anouilh

If you run into trouble, you could contact this lady:

http://nitawriter.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/a-major-indian-newspaper-steals-a-bloggers-photograph/

She sounds like the Peig Sayers of the blogosphere...