RAW 15/06 3 Hour Show *Spoilers*

JP Liz

It was announced during the SD taping tonight that this Monday night on Raw there will be a Four Way Match to determine the new WWE Champion. The match will feature John Cena vs Big Show vs Triple H vs Randy Orton.
Additionally, it was announced that Tommy Dreamer

will face Christian for the ECW Championship on the 3 hour Raw special.

Batista isnt champion no more

big syke

Sounds like an exciting match doesnt it good owl four ways for the prestigious WWE championship :rolleyes:

I thought i heard michael cole saying something abour mvp being in a championship match because of his win on raw against hardy...Must be a U.S title match..

hyn-zie

JP Liz wrote: »

Batista isnt champion no more

Thats a loud of B@llox, Batista wins the title knowing he's injured and no we have a vacant title (again), hopefully this 3 hour special will have some thing of greatness lined up

Penn

Is it just me or would anyone else love to see Big Show win the title.

Its been too long since we had a truly dominant champion. One where you think its going to be impossible for a face to beat him one on one. I know Big Show is almost a shadow of what he used to be capable of, but I think he could pull it off.

Besides, I think Orton winning it back is pointless until they build up the Legacy a bit more, get Priceless the tag gold and maybe add a new member or two. And I think everyone would hate Cena or HHH win the title again after them both holding the titles at Wrestlemania and Backlash.

ShawnRaven

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

Is it just me or would anyone else love to see Big Show win the title.

Its been too long since we had a truly dominant champion.

Yeah, because a guy who held the WWE title both times and was only able to hold onto it for one month both times. A prime example of a truly dominant champion.

Jesus Xaviour Christ, no! Say no... to the big slow!

Rjd2

Just give Cena the belt already, Orton and Hunter have bored me and everyone to tears, if they must fued keep them away for tht title. Let Cena defend it against someone like the Miz, I just want something fresh in the Raw main event.

ShawnRaven

Rjd2 wrote: »

Just give Cena the belt already, Orton and Hunter have bored me and everyone to tears, if they must fued keep them away for tht title. Let Cena defend it against someone like the Miz, I just want something fresh in the Raw main event.

You want Miz in a major title picture???
I'd rather see it on Big Slow

Rjd2

ShawnRaven wrote: »

You want Miz in a major title picture???
I'd rather see it on Big Slow

The Miz is best of a very bad bunch.
I mean Kofi is not ready, the crowd keep forgetting that Matt is a heel and MVP is not exactly setting the world on fire right now. Honestly could Miz vs Cenv be worse than Rko vs Hunter part 2453?

ShawnRaven

Rjd2 wrote: »

The Miz is best of a very bad bunch.
I mean Kofi is not ready, the crowd keep forgetting that Matt is a heel and MVP is not exactly setting the world on fire right now. Honestly could Miz vs Cenv be worse than Rko vs Hunter part 2453?

Kofi would be ready if he didn't have clueless twats like CP Munk injuring him with an uber dangerous finisher. CP Munk is nowhere near ready in my honest opinion, and they gave him the belt twice.

JBL was nowhere near main event level when he got his first title reign either, but he was able to run with the ball when he caught it in mid air. Kofi could be a surprise.

Agree with you on Hunter/Orton, neither are likely to benefit there.

grames_bond

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Kofi would be ready if he didn't have clueless twats like CP Munk injuring him with an uber dangerous finisher. CP Munk is nowhere near ready in my honest opinion, and they gave him the belt twice.

JBL was nowhere near main event level when he got his first title reign either, but he was able to run with the ball when he caught it in mid air. Kofi could be a surprise.

i still cant understand why they gave the strap to munk again, his first run was abysmal....and i didnt know he injured kofi, what an idiot.

i understand how they throw the belt on people to see how it goes, they did that with bret didnt they?! and that sure as hell worked, although no matter what this says, cp munk is NO bret the hitman hart!

Rjd2

He never injured Kofi with it, only Snitsky and Rey were hurt over it. You cant compare Punk to Kofi though. Punk has been a PPV regular since 2006 and recently he got clean wins over Rey, Edge, Jericho, Kane and Umanga. He does have more cred than Kofi who spent the last year jobbing and is only starting to pick up momentum now.
On JBL I could be wrong but his push came when Kurt was injured and Brock had left so they they were down to the bare bones. Eddie done a superb job in making him look creditable.
Orton and Hunter does not need to be over the title anymore anyways. Cena actually feels fresh compared to the evolution people.

hyn-zie

Some one told me the other day "Dwayne Johnson" is making a come back?? already in training, now that would freshen things up, honeslty i hate the big slow in all but if he did win the title it would be a good thing in my opinion because 1: everyone hates him as a wrestler 2: wwe could just leave it with him for ages and have people eating out of there hand begging for a new champion e.g. JBL! my head was wrecked on how that muppet was champion but it kept me interested!!!

Rjd2

hyn-zie wrote: »

Some one told me the other day "Dwayne Johnson" is making a come back?

Yeah its true he is going to be the Kendricks partner.

JP Liz

Rjd2 wrote: »

The Miz is best of a very bad bunch.
I mean Kofi is not ready, the crowd keep forgetting that Matt is a heel and MVP is not exactly setting the world on fire right now. Honestly could Miz vs Cenv be worse than Rko vs Hunter part 2453?

I prefer somehow Edge coming Raw being involved in the title picture - maybe one last deal of Vickie's was to get Edge to Raw

Cant wait for his return (the rock) I reckon he'l turn on Kendrick and work his way up to main event again....Could be disputed again as WWE relying on older main eventers again.

Rjd2

JP Liz wrote: »

I prefer somehow Edge coming Raw being involved in the title picture - maybe one last deal of Vickie's was to get Edge to Raw

Smackdown needs him more if Jeff is leaving.

Rjd2

Deleted User wrote: »

Cant wait for his return (the rock) I reckon he'l turn on Kendrick and work his way up to main event again....Could be disputed again as WWE relying on older main eventers again.

I was joking,we wont be seeing the return of The Rock for a long time and if he ever came back it wont be as Brians partner.

grames_bond

please tell me people dont seriously believe the rock is going to come back?! he makes 1 sh!tty childrens movie and he makes more money than he would in a year of grueling touring with wwe.....he is not coming back! as much as id like to be wrong.....i really dont think i am!

Degag

ShawnRaven wrote: »

JBL was nowhere near main event level when he got his first title reign either, but he was able to run with the ball when he caught it in mid air. Kofi could be a surprise.

The big reason of why JBL "ran with the ball" was because of his superior mic skills (and possibly a good relationship with the boss;))

Haven't seen much of Kofi on the mic but something tells me i don't want to.

flahavaj

Degag wrote: »

Haven't seen much of Kofi on the mic but something tells me i don't want to.

I've never even heard his voice. Has he ever cut a promo on WWE TV, seriously?

Degag

flahavaj wrote: »

I've never even heard his voice. Has he ever cut a promo on WWE TV, seriously?

Don't know about cutting a promo but i have heard his voice.... think yer man out of the Malibu ads!

RebelRockChick

Only Kofi promos would probably be the videos before his debut, like this one

First thing that comes to mind.....Cool Runnings! :pac:

Jolt2007

He cut a promo with MVP the other week about 40 seconds in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs0o9NeKXts

currythis

Brilliant I hope batista never returns,I cannot stand him!

Pity the miz isn't involved in the main event though,it would have given him a bit of a boost instead of having big slow in it!
Been very impressed with miz's mike work over the last few weeks,he's a natural heel and his 'feud' with cena reminds me of jericho's one with goldberg back in wcw years ago.

I'm guessing hhh will win the title back unfortunately!

DM_7

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Kofi would be ready if he didn't have clueless twats like CP Munk injuring him with an uber dangerous finisher. CP Munk is nowhere near ready in my honest opinion, and they gave him the belt twice.

JBL was nowhere near main event level when he got his first title reign either, but he was able to run with the ball when he caught it in mid air. Kofi could be a surprise.

Agree with you on Hunter/Orton, neither are likely to benefit there.

When Did Punk injure Kofi and how is Punk clueless? If you don't like him thats fair but he is far from clueless. If WWE were worried about Punks finisher they would stop him using it.

Kofi will be good some day, but its a bit early.

I don't like the idea of this 3 hour raw. Overkill on title matches.

Machismo Fan

If they're going to give you a three hour free TV show with a guaranteed new champion and three title matches overall with all three brands then why bother buying the PPV that they have two weeks later?

bevan619

AND THE HURRICANE IS COMING BACK!

Rjd2

DM-ICE wrote: »

When Did Punk injure Kofi and how is Punk clueless? If you don't like thats fair but he is far from clueless. If WWE were worried about Punks finisher they would stop him using it.
.

Lets not forget he has hit it on the likes of Hunter, Jeff, Edge and Jericho, if they were worried about it he would not have been allowed to use it on 4 of the top guys in the company.
I cant recall if he hit it on Batista in their short feud last year.

flahavaj

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Kofi would be ready if he didn't have clueless twats like CP Munk injuring him with an uber dangerous finisher. CP Munk is nowhere near ready in my honest opinion, and they gave him the belt twice.

So you're saying Kofi Kingston isn't ready because Punk injured him with his finisher? How does that make any sense at all? So if he had hit Go to Sleep cleanly that one time Kofi would be magically be transformed into a guy who's ready for a big push? Completely distorted logic and pointless nit-picking IMO.

As for Go to Sleep being an "uber-dangerous finisher", again there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary. KENTA has used it for one for about six years and never hurt anyone as far as I can recall and as others have poointed out, for that one time it may not have gone quite right, theres the many many times it has done no harm at all. Accidents happen in pro-wrestling. Powerbombs, pile drivers, DDT's, even a simple hip toss can all result in accidents from time to time. Its Pro Wrestling; people get hurt sometimes, big deal.

There's plenty of good reasons for you to b*tch about Punk; his finisher is WAY down the list of rods with which to beat him with in fairness.

Is not as if being a sloppy worker who hurt people ever stopped WWE putting the title on people anyway, look at RVD.

Degag

flahavaj wrote: »

Is not as if being a sloppy worker who hurt people ever stopped WWE putting the title on people anyway, look at RVD.

I thanked your post because i agree with what you said but to be very fair, WWE have put the belt on alot of wrestlers more sloppy than RVD!

JP Liz

Any news on HBK's return?

It would sweet him returning and winning the title - i can dream :rolleyes:

CMpunked

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Agree with you on Hunter/Orton, neither are likely to benefit there.

Except for the bonuses in their paychecks.

Jolt2007 wrote: »

He cut a promo with MVP the other week about 40 seconds in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs0o9NeKXts

Omg that is hilarious at the 1.02 mark, Josh Matthews looks like a midget compared to the two in front of him.



For the title match on Raw i put it down to who would i not be bored seeing the title on:

HHH: Would bore me to tears again.
Cena: Who's his most viable opponent? Miz? Great...
Orton: Why take it off him, give it to batista and have him win it back again? Possibly to be able to say he got another regin?
Show: Not as boring as some of the others if he was booked right, but he wont, so he will be boring.

Usually im optimistic and dont bother predeterming if im going to like a match until i actually see it, but this is going to be baaaaad.

Lone Kimono

I dont want Cena, HHH or Show to win the title. I didnt want Orton to lose the title in the first place but now that he has I dont want him to win it so quickly again just to get another reign. Theres no one else on Raw at the moment worthy of the title.

I have no interest in the match, just have a ladder fall on one of them and count the pin to make it champion, its not like it hasn't happened before, would be more interesting than having any of those four win the title.:rolleyes:

Penn

The Ladder is already booked in a match that night. It is teaming up with The Table and The Chair to reform their stable TLC and they're taking on Goldust, Hornswoggle and Santina.

I've heard rumours The Table might be turning heel....

Nody

I think you are all far to gullable if you think any of the four will get the title; this is WWE we're talking about. Edge will knock out Cena or Big Show to take their place and win it by being a heel and pulling a cheap shoot (i.e. coming out from under the ring when all are tired or similar). That way they can have a rematch with cross brand on their upcoming PPV as "revenge".

Then again considering this is WWE I'd not be suprised if Santina would come out and win the damn title and then lose it to Hornswaggle in the same evening. This is WWE comedy hour after all...

Penn

I can't see Edge somehow getting into the WWE Championship match. Firstly, Its been done to death. Secondly, think about the 4 guys in the match. Edge isn't going to knock any of those out with a surprise attack to keep them out of the match. And with Vickie no longer being GM, plus them getting divorced, I just don't see it happening.

I do foresee some sort of twist ending, possibly (and I hate to say this) two of them pinning someone at the same time, or one submission and one pin at the same time leading to joint champions. Or is it an elimination match?

dsmythy

bevan619 wrote: »

AND THE HURRICANE IS COMING BACK!

Also from ECW what's the story with Kozlov's sudden pleasantness to the crowd...

flahavaj

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

I do foresee some sort of twist ending, possibly (and I hate to say this) two of them pinning someone at the same time, or one submission and one pin at the same time leading to joint champions. Or is it an elimination match?

I think you're onto something here. Considering they've not even mentioned the next PPV which is only a couple of weeks away, yet, some kinda screwy double pin finish would set up a deciding Title match at the PPV.

Rjd2

C-B-G wrote: »

HHH: Would bore me to tears again.
Cena: Who's his most viable opponent? Miz? Great...
Orton: Why take it off him, give it to batista and have him win it back again? Possibly to be able to say he got another regin?
Show: Not as boring as some of the others if he was booked right, but he wont, so he will be boring.
.

What would be so bad about Cena vs The Miz? It would be fresh and different. I know The Miz is not exactly Benoit in the ring, but if Cena can get good matches out of Lashley and Khali he can do wonders with The Miz.
This Orton and Hunter feud does not need the belt anyways.

DM_7

Rjd2 wrote: »

What would be so bad about Cena vs The Miz? It would be fresh and different. I know The Miz is not exactly Benoit in the ring, but if Cena can get good matches out of Lashley and Khali he can do wonders with The Miz.
This Orton and Hunter feud does not need the belt anyways.

I wouldn't mind that feud either. As far as ai can see Cena is limited in his move set but a feud with Miz would allow him express himself more, proving he is more than a merch machine. The Miz executes his own move set well and it would be a fresh feud. Doing it for the title would make it mean more and help Miz long term.

Rjd2

Cena knows how to work a match with the best of them. His dark match with Miz on Raw the other week got very good reviews as well.

flahavaj

I don't get the problem with a Miz/Cena feud. The build has been something different, like someone else said, similar to Jericho/Goldberg in WCW back inthe day. I guarantee by the time Cena gets his hands on Miz, the crowd will be dying for him to kick his ass. And if that does happen, Miz will have succeeded as a heel where countless other so called "established" opponents of Cena have failed.

Then again those who are moaning about Miz wrestling Cena are the very same ones crying in the next thread down the page about the Main Event scene being stale and boring. Thats the problem with the internet I suppose, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

DM_7

Rjd2 wrote: »

Cena knows how to work a match with the best of them. His dark match with Miz on Raw the other week got very good reviews as well.

He certainly does. I meant to say they could work in Cena doing plenty of wrestling moves to prove how wrong Miz is as part of the storyline or something similar.

JP Liz

I just hope the Big Show is kept away from Miz/Cena feud

chopperbyrne

I hope Cena does win the strap on Raw tonight and goes on to feud with Miz.

Would be great to see Vince swerve everyone and have Miz win the title and hold it for three or four months. He could be like Edge, sneaking wins or getting disqualified to keep the strap.

Generally faces work better when they're chasing the title, rather than holding it and Cena could benefit from having a fresh feud.

As people have said, Orton and HHH don't need the title involved for their feud to work and Big Show has so many failed title runs that there's no point putting the strap on him.

Driver 8

Can't see anyone other than Orton winning it, though I hope I'm wrong

Bounty Hunter

Driver 8 wrote: »

Can't see anyone other than Orton winning it, though I hope I'm wrong

What exactey would the point in taking the belt of Randy in the first place have been then since they already knew Batista was injured before he won the belt?

I think he should have never lost it to begin with but wouldent say hes a lock to regain it

Driver 8

As if WWE booking has ever conformed to logic?

The only other option I could see is Triple H and it seems too soon after his return to put the belt on him.

Agreed though, a Cena/Miz title feud would be something fresh.

Rjd2

chopperbyrne wrote: »

I hope Cena does win the strap on Raw tonight and goes on to feud with Miz.

Would be great to see Vince swerve everyone and have Miz win the title and hold it for three or four months. He could be like Edge, sneaking wins or getting disqualified to keep the strap.

Generally faces work better when they're chasing the title, rather than holding it and Cena could benefit from having a fresh feud.

As people have said, Orton and HHH don't need the title involved for their feud to work and Big Show has so many failed title runs that there's no point putting the strap on him.

Not a truer word spoken in this thread.

Bounty Hunter

Driver 8 wrote: »

As if WWE booking has ever conformed to logic?

unfortunatley i have to agree and would not rule out Orton winning tonight either but as you say the booking is completley illogical should that be the plan.

DM_7

Here's what i want to see.

Clean finishes in the WHC and ECW title matches.

In the WWE title some mental finish.

Mainly with Orton and HHH killing each other and fighting into the crowd forgetting about the title.

Then I hope Cena wins after Miz whacks the big show with a "Foreign Object" and Cena hits the attitude adjustment on Show.

Miz can proclaim himself the real champ as he is 6 and 0 v Cena and Cena is only Champ thanks to Miz.