Banning Alcohol on Ads before 9: Yay or Nay

cherryghost

Research shows blah blah blah. But I want to know your opinion. A gang want alco ads before 9pm banned. Your opinion? Does it influence younger kids to drink?

I think.... I need more vodka. I'm impartial to it, probably because I dont have children.

petes

I think kids are going to drink more to peer pressure rather than an ad on TV although I suppose it doesn't help.

Vain

My kids love the gatt, I blame tv and alcohol. Not myself for buying it for them.

Sam Vimes

Kids normally don't start drinking until about 12. What kind of 12 year old is in bed before 9

Vain

Sam Vimes wrote: »

Kids normally don't start drinking until about 12. What kind of 12 year old is in bed before 9

The ones who get a beating if their not in bed before 9.

easyeason3

Alcohol for all I say!
Kids will get their hands on it if they want it that badly & a little bit of knacker drinking is character building.

I'd sooner ban the stupid Abrakebabra ads, they make taco fries look sooo tasty but in reality they are the fastest acting laxative know to man. Far more dangerous than an ad for beer.

jimmycrackcorm

What with banning alcohol, smoking, sex and violent games - what can a kid do these days?

Vain

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

What with banning alcohol, smoking, sex and violent games - what can a kid do these days?

Knock and dolly, used to love that game.

liah

Hiding alcohol from public view will only exacerbate the problem. Kids should be learning about alcohol and seeing it used responsibly in an everyday manner, not be shielded from it so they only happen upon it in some dire situation resulting with them with their head in the toilet for the next four hours.

Why do people think tucking things under the carpet will solve the problem? It never will. Ever.

phasers

Children stay up later than 9PM

I_am_Jebus

I am mesmerised as to how an advert makes people go out and buy an alcoholic drink or want to drink.

I see an advert for Guinness or whatever, (I love Guinness) but I don;t jump up and want to drink one.

I was the same when I was 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 ,18 and so on.

"is maith liom caca millis" - holy **** I need a ****ing drink right now.... pause.............................................................................................................................................. NOT!!!!

ban it, dont ban it, I don;t care and I don't think it will matter much. Probably just less revenue for RTÉ and yipee to make up for it, another licence fee hike

thealltimelow

where is rte going to get its money from then ? rte will have to get play tv after 12 then

Black Swan

It's not the timing of the ads, but rather the peer pressure, the desire to appear adult-like, and how parents relate to kids, helping them to understand the consequences on their health, growth, and development.

Terry

If you are going to ban alcohol advertising, then you might as well board up all pubs and put big signs on them saying Kids, move along. There is nothing to see here.
Pay no attention to the man putting out his cigarette and walking into this building. He's a rapist and will butt**** you if you come in here.

Or something like dis iz nt hre. durrp.

javaboy

Sam Vimes wrote: »

Kids normally don't start drinking until about 12.

Sure that wouldn't leave much time to get sauced with the way closing times are now.

What kind of 12 year old is in bed before 9

Ones who've been ******* drinking since 10 in the morning.

petes

I_am_Jebus wrote: »

I see an advert for Guinness or whatever, (I love Guinness) but I don;t jump up and want to drink one.

Probaly because it is not that apparent that it is for a pint of Guiness.

SalthillGuy

If those ads are banned prior to 9:00pm, every kid will want to know more about why they are banned.
I would be totally open with this type of thing and not create any mystique....

ShooterSF

Nay.

For **** sake what is wrong with some people in this country. Have they such a dim view of their child or their ability to bring one up well that they have to censor the babysitter (television).

toiletduck

Yeah definitely should be more regulations on alcohol ads. Remember a few years back when they came down harsh on smoking ads? Result: everybody giving them up and not one new member to the cancer stick brigade has been observed. Good work.

weiss

Exposure to alcohol advertising leads to increased alcohol consumption.

I'd personally welcome a complete ban on advertising after seeing the negative effects alcohol has on people in society.

Not just individuals, but families who have lived with an alcoholic.

You may argue that advertising won't stop someone being an alcoholic, but advertising is encouraging people to consume, thats the point obviously.

What are the benefits from alcohol consumption?, there are none.

It causes nothing but problems.

I'm not saying ban drinking :P but advertising certainly isn't necessary.

docdolittle

Do ya remember the good aul' days when kids where just thrown out on the road to play instead of watching tv's and playing games... :rolleyes:

I don't.... I played games Good eld' commodore 64 and mega drive

phasers

weiss wrote: »

Exposure to alcohol advertising leads to increased alcohol consumption.

What? No it doesn't.

Liking the taste of alcohol leads to increased alcohol consumption.

At least back up your "facts" with articles

toiletduck

weiss wrote: »

What are the benefits from alcohol consumption?, there are none.

It causes nothing but problems.

I'm not saying ban drinking :P but advertising certainly isn't necessary.

So makers of a perfectly legal product shouldn't be allowed to advertise because you see the product having "no benefit". Maybe you could elaborate and educate us on what products do "have a benefit". Is coffee in there? Pampers? Laptops? How are you defining "benefit"?

Terry

weiss wrote: »

Exposure to alcohol advertising leads to increased alcohol consumption.

I'd personally welcome a complete ban on advertising after seeing the negative effects alcohol has on people in society.

Not just individuals, but families who have lived with an alcoholic.

You may argue that advertising won't stop someone being an alcoholic, but advertising is encouraging people to consume, thats the point obviously.

What are the benefits from alcohol consumption?, there are none.

It causes nothing but problems.

I'm not saying ban drinking :P but advertising certainly isn't necessary.

Benifits of alcohol consumption:

1. You get drunk.
2. Ugly chicks look better and vice versa. Chances of scoring increase 10 fold.
3. You get drunk.
4. Being drunk is fun.
5. You get drunk.
6. Everything is fine when you are drunk.
7. You get drunk.
8. You can sleep through the poxy sunny weather.
9. You get drunk.
10. You lose all interest in what is being advertised on the telly.

weiss

phasers wrote:

What? No it doesn't.

yes it does, thats why its advertised, or don't you understand why we have advertising?

Liking the taste of alcohol leads to increased alcohol consumption.

At least back up your "facts" with articles

you mean like yourself? are you speaking for yourself? :rolleyes:

weiss

Terry wrote:

So makers of a perfectly legal product shouldn't be allowed to advertise because you see the product having "no benefit". Maybe you could elaborate and educate us on what products do "have a benefit". Is coffee in there? Pampers? Laptops? How are you defining "benefit"?

Well Terry, look up the definition of benefit, there is your answer.

phasers

weiss wrote: »

yes it does, thats why its advertised, or don't you understand why we have advertising?



you mean like yourself? are you speaking for yourself? :rolleyes:

I don't need proof, I thought it was obvious that people who like alcohol are probably going to drink more.

Children don't go out drinking because they saw an ad for Carlsberg ffs, and people who go to pubs don't go there because they saw a really cool ad for Guinness.

Terry

weiss wrote: »

yes it does, thats why its advertised, or don't you understand why we have advertising?



you mean like yourself? are you speaking for yourself? :rolleyes:

Nah. She's speaking for me too in that post.
I like the taste of beer, so I drink it.
I don't drink beer that I don't like the taste of.

If Carlsberg did posts on boards.ie, it wouldn't be this one. I don't like the taste of it, so no matter how much they spend on advertising it, I will never drink it.

toiletduck

weiss wrote: »

Well Terry, look up the definition of benefit, there is your answer.

Quoted wrongly dude. And great argument. I'm a believer!

Terry

weiss wrote: »

Well Terry, look up the definition of benefit, there is your answer.

I didn't post that.
Why did you change the name in the quote? It wasn't me.
Are you drunk?

weiss

weiss wrote: »

yes it does, thats why its advertised, or don't you understand why we have advertising?

How exactly does drink advertising increase my alcohol consumption?

weiss

phasers wrote:

I don't need proof

hahaha

...I thought it was obvious that people who like alcohol are probably going to drink more.

if you think advertising has nothing to do with people thinking about what drink they buy, you're wrong.

Children don't go out drinking because they saw an ad for Carlsberg ffs, and people who go to pubs don't go there because they saw a really cool ad for Guinness.

how do you know they don't drink carlsberg because of an ad they seen?
show us your "facts" please

toiletduck

Terry wrote: »

If Carlsberg did posts on boards.ie, it wouldn't be this one. I don't like the taste of it, so no matter how much they spend on advertising it, I will never drink it.

Bet you would if you'd crossed the desert during WW2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd7HTlkzS28

weiss

Emerie Warm Fishhook wrote:

How exactly does drink advertising increase my alcohol consumption?

there are plenty of studies to suggest this, why the hell do you think companies advertise? :rolleyes:

if companies thought there was no benefit to advertise, they wouldn't do it...my god.

senordingdong

Rabble rabble.

We should all be shot.

zAbbo

Alcohol advertising works, if it didn't NO-ONE would drink Budweiser

I'm in favour of banning all alcohol advertising at any time.

Sam Vimes

weiss wrote: »

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if you think advertising has nothing to do with people thinking about what drink they buy, you're wrong.


how do you know they don't drink carlsberg because of an ad they seen?
show us your "facts" please

I'm sure people drink Carlsberg because of an ad they saw, that's the point of advertising but think about it this way:

I see ads for mortgages every day but I have no interest in buying a house and an ad for a mortgage doesn't make me want one. I see ads for furniture but I'm not in the market for furniture and the ads don't make me run out and buy a couch to stick on top of my current one. If I needed a new couch it would be a different story though.

Ads will have an effect on which particular brand of a beer people buy but I can't picture anyone going from a teetotaller to an alcoholic because they saw some horses running through water and heard something about refreshment

weiss

weiss wrote: »

there are plenty of studies to suggest this, why the hell do you think companies advertise? :rolleyes:

if companies thought there was no benefit to advertise, they wouldn't do it...my god.

They advertise like any other company to inform people about their product, that has nothing to do with consumption levels. A a lot of my friends drink Smithwicks which I also drank for a few years. Now you could probably count on one hand the amount of times you have seen an ad for Smithwicks yet a group of 6 or 7 of us were all drinking it because we liked it I then started to drink Guinness because I like it not because of the ads.

I have to say the comment I make after most of the drink ads on tv is " that stuff is pure p**s".

You dont buy 10 cameras because you see the camera advertised often.

Terry

weiss wrote: »

how do you know they don't drink carlsberg because of an ad they seen?
show us your "facts" please

I just posted saying that I don't drink Carlsberg regardless of their advertising.
There's a fact for you.

toiletduck wrote: »

Bet you would if you'd crossed the desert during WW2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd7HTlkzS28

Great film.

zAbbo wrote: »

Alcohol advertising works, if it didn't NO-ONE would drink Budweiser

I'm in favour of banning all alcohol advertising at any time.

I drink Budweiser.
I have 12 cans in the fridge. I'm not going to drink them now though. They're there for later. That's called self control.
I don't have much, but I have enough to leave those cans alone until later.

As for why I drink it. I like the taste.
It was recommended to me.
I used to drink Furstenburg, but they stopped selling that here for some reason.
someone recommended Bud to me and I've been drinking it ever since.
Nothing at all to do with their ads.

ShooterSF

Terry wrote: »

I just posted saying that I don't drink Carlsberg regardless of their advertising.
There's a fact for you.


Great film.



I drink Budweiser.
I have 12 cans in the fridge. I'm not going to drink them now though. They're there for later. That's called self control.
I don't have much, but I have enough to leave those cans alone until later.

As for why I drink it. I like the taste.
It was recommended to me.
I used to drink Furstenburg, but they stopped selling that here for some reason.
someone recommended Bud to me and I've been drinking it ever since.
Nothing at all to do with their ads.

You sir, have a serious problem. You should consult a doctor immediately and have him examine your tastebuds for problems.

weiss

lets advertise everything then, why not advertise heroin and cocaine also? why not let arms companies advertise machine guns and hand grenades too...ah sure, it won't encourage anyone to try them, why would it? thats silly.

phasers

Also weiss, nowadays most alcohol ads just mention the name at the end after showing some retarded little story. It's not really a "look this drink is so delicious you must have it now" thing.
(the above post is just stupid, alcohol is a legal item that is widely available and sold. Who would run the ads for heroin?)

Nobody buys Bud because of the ads, don't you people remember "Waaaaaazuuuuup"

:eek:

toiletduck

weiss wrote: »

lets advertise everything then, why not advertise heroin and cocaine also? why not let arms companies advertise machine guns and hand grenades too...ah sure, it won't encourage anyone to try them, why would it? thats silly.

You do know alcohol is legal right? And that the above listed items aren't? Can you see the difference?

toiletduck

phasers wrote: »

Nobody buys Bud because of the ads, don't you people remember "Waaaaaazuuuuup"

:eek:

The Bud Christmas Ad with the horse pulled sleigh cancelled that out in the general publics consciousness.

Terry

ShooterSF wrote: »

You sir, have a serious problem. You should consult a doctor immediately and have him examine your tastebuds for problems.

I blame the cigarettes for that.
Tobacco products were widely advertised 22 years ago when I took up smoking.
Think I have a case against the tobacco companies?
Dear sir, your product ruined my taste buds and now people take the piss out of me for drinking Budweiser.
I demand compensation.

weiss wrote: »

lets advertise everything then, why not advertise heroin and cocaine also? why not let arms companies advertise machine guns and hand grenades too...ah sure, it won't encourage anyone to try them, why would it? thats silly.

Umm. They're illegal in this country.
Funnily enough though, people still use them.
I blame a lack of advertising on this.
If they were advertised, then people would boycott them. Or would they?
What a conundrum we are in.

Wait. People are idiots. That's why they do idiotic things.

Anyone for clown college?

Snowie

oh yeah shore mammy and daddy wont drink and there, kids sure they'll never ever water up there parents vodka... Those people should be shot. doo gooders making children look innocent.... I can say I liked that guiness add when i was about 14 but i never drank it when i was 14

what grinds my gears is when a fanny pad advert that comes when where all eating the dinner, or worse still first thing in the morning with the Oh what feeling di dididididdidi that really anoys me...

weiss

toiletduck wrote:

You do know alcohol is legal right? And that the above listed items aren't? Can you see the difference?

can you tell me the benefits of alcohol?

even just 1 if you can manage.

Actually now that I think of it, I have never seen an ad on tv for: jagermeister, sambuca, tiquella, aftershock, Jack Daniels any of the endless number of cheap beers available and I'm sure there are more yet all are very popular and the shots are probably one of the most drinks which are used to excess so how can advertising be blamed?

toiletduck

weiss wrote: »

can you tell me the benefits of alcohol?

even just 1 if you can manage.

Well since you haven't given a definition, I'll go by the most obvious and least debatable one. Its effect on the economy, taxes, jobs and revenue. That ok?

phasers

weiss wrote: »

can you tell me the benefits of alcohol?

even just 1 if you can manage.

People enjoy drinking it. Having a nice time is an advantageous thing.

weiss

if you believe that advertising doesn't encourage people to drink, then you should have no problem with a total ban...you believe advertising doesn't work, thats your logic..brilliant.

bye