The Xbox Vs PS3 competition

eddhorse

Heres Xboxs idea....
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/projectnatal/

What do the PS3 people think of it? I think it will never work properly.

VS


Heres PS3 idea....
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-playstation-3/50276

Comments?

amacachi

FFS...




Anyway, I'm not interested in either.

tman

Natal is designed for paedophiles - what's that Milo game all about????

PS3 for life!

You're hardly expected balanced opinions in the Playstation forum are you?:p

Grayditch

Flapping your arms about and running in circles. There's already a competition for things like this, where everyone is a winner.

NotorietyH

What's a Xbox?!?

hurler007

No one wins its just a joint bid to kill the wii.



No comlaints here.:p

Otacon

I believe if Microsoft [and developers] use the camera properly, then it could be revolutionary.

Imagine playing an FPS where if you lean, your viewpoint follows.

Games where the main focus is using the Natal camera, imo, will fail. Games where the camera is used to further immerse the player will be a success.

As for the PS3 version, the motion controllers seem to actually provide one-to-one movement, something the Wii still does not have.

TBH it will all depend on the software that's released that will decide which is the better system.

Bonavox

eddhorse wrote: »

Heres Xboxs idea....
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/projectnatal/

What do the PS3 people think of it? I think it will never work properly.

VS


Heres PS3 idea....
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-playstation-3/50276

Comments?

Maybe this was better posted in just Games, to get an even opinion.

Surprisingly enough, PS3 all the way! Shocker . . .

Rev. Kitchen

Both are stupid idea's that will result in nothing more than fancy Wii games ( ie novelty drinking games where you play for 20 mins get bored and wander off )

Frank3142

natal looks cool but i cant understand how they can do something like that. Maybe its just something they were just trying to grab attention with and we will never see it again.
where as the ps3 thing, thats just stooopid. I thought the whole eyetoy sh1te had vanished by now.

Kinetic^

Moved to the games forums. If you're going to have a discussion about one console versus another then why put it in a console specific forum where you'll have fanboys jerking each other off.

Retr0gamer

Kinetic^ wrote: »

Moved to the games forums. If you're going to have a discussion about one console versus another then why put it in a console specific forum where you'll have fanboys jerking each other off.

I've just found a new market for inter-console fanboy porn. Off to the patent office with me.

Kiith

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I've just found a new market for inter-console fanboy porn. Off to the patent office with me.

I'll be Nintendo and sit in the corner waggling my soon-to-be obselete wand :pac:

Grayditch

It's funny how much the term "fanboy" is thrown around these boards.


It's like a Salem Witch Trial or something.

DARK-KNIGHT

my snes kicks all their asses lol

Crucifix

Motion controls suck. If you're not playing videogames slumped almost catatonic on your couch or bed, you're doing it wrong

Grayditch

raycaulwell wrote: »

my snes kicks all their asses lol

Yeah, but those "retro-are-the-coolerist-than-both" chime-ins are always susceptible to even older ones, until the Ball & Paddle makes an appearance before being piped by Stick & Tire. Seriously.

Kinetic^

Back on topic please.

Grayditch

My sarcasm, never wasted.

Nobody knows how good these will be until the first three mini game packs are out of the way. Microsofts video was is a blatant lie until they produce exactly what I saw. Sony's looks like it could be as awkward as those two guys demo-ing it.

Retr0gamer

It was awkward for them because it was a pair of lab nerds in front of a crowd.

I'm not sure theses will have the same impact as the Wii has had. Peripherals that aren't packed with the console like the Wiimote have a habit of failing spectacularly. No matter how good peripherals are the only examples of one selling well I can think of is the wii fit board and guitar hero.

GothPunk

I think that Natal looks pretty impressive, but I'm not sure how well it will resonate with 'hardcore' gamers. I guess that's not really the point of Natal though and I think that controller free gaming could really work well for people who find controllers intimidating. With the right games and NXE integration it could be really cool. Not everyone has their Xbox in a room with lots of space to kick and punch the air though. Rumble may be 'last gen' but I like the feedback I get from a controller, when I'm playing racing games in particular, so holding my hands out in a pretend steering wheel pose doesn't appeal to me. Combining Natal with the current controller appeals to me a lot more and I look forward to seeing games that utilise both. Seeing as how Natal currently runs on a PC/360 combo I wonder if games will take a graphical/performance hit to use Natal? Not that that really matters though.

I liked the Sony presentation a lot, and the one thing that really piqued my interest was the 'precision' of the controller. It's something that really bothers me when I play Wii games or use the Wii interface (and obviously having not been able to try Motion+ yet I don't know if Nintendo have fixed this problem) when the pointer feels a bit off and kind of jerky. From what I saw at the Sony E3 conference it looks like Sony could be the ones to get me into motion gaming, with the right games of course. Assuming I haven't bought a Wii by then. :pac:

I really can't see motion gaming catching on for an online FPS though, I mean the pro gaming scene would look totally different, heh.

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It was awkward for them because it was a pair of lab nerds in front of a crowd.

That's something I liked actually about the Sony presentation, I like being able to see who is actually coming up with the hardware. I'd love to read about the (final release) Milo AI as well.

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'm not sure theses will have the same impact as the Wii has had. Peripherals that aren't packed with the console like the Wiimote have a habit of failing spectacularly. No matter how good peripherals are the only examples of one selling well I can think of is the wii fit board and guitar hero.

At the right price though and with the right games they could sell very well. WiiFit is a monster though, I doubt Sony or Microsoft could replicate that level of success.

thealltimelow

atari jaguar is the best

Grayditch

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giggsy664

Grayditch wrote: »

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I concur

giggsy664

What I would really like to see is a CoD4 engine based game on ps3, motion controlled, but with airsoft guns. I mean, you would get some different motion sensors to stick on your M4 for example, and a proximity sensor on the trigger.

I think my idea is flawed. A lot

Grayditch

Haha. Anything is possible. Look at the Natal promo video.

Retr0gamer

Grayditch wrote: »

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I thought people only did that in japanese RPGs?

Grayditch

Yeah, but it's hard to do a blank stare on the internet.

RobertFoster

Grayditch wrote: »

Yeah, but it's hard to do a blank stare on the internet.

You normally do it with a cat picture...

cabrwab

Like the eyetoy i think motion control's are a gimmick. I hate the wii successful or not!! I don't hink its for the gamer more to use at parties.

They won't have the software to back it up as we saw with other ad on's before.
Im sure both can be successful if they have good games on them.

Otacon

cabrwab wrote: »

Like the eyetoy i think motion control's are a gimmick. I hate the wii successful or not!! I don't hink its for the gamer more to use at parties.

They won't have the software to back it up as we saw with other ad on's before.
Im sure both can be successful if they have good games on them.

Software is key.

If Sony or Microsoft can get first and third party games on their systems that intelligently use the new control interfaces, then they could move beyond the labels of 'gimmicks'.

For me personally, the Wii was used for Mario, Zelda and Metroid. Since those games were released, it has been gathering dust. Nintendo's E3 announcements will probably mean I will fire it up again, but for many, it hasn't moved beyond the realms of 'gimmick' itself. IMO this is due to the lack of quality software.

MS and Sony appear to have gone in different directions with their control schemes. While Sony has gone for precision, MS has gone for reco0gnition and interaction. Purely from an innovation stand-point, MS has excelled but whether that will translate to sales is still debatable.

FreeOSCAR

What do you guys think is better?


A Cat?




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A Dog?

Otacon

FreeOSCAR wrote: »

What do you guys think is better?
A Cat?
A Dog?

The cat is drinking Bud Light and the dog appears to have pulled a woman.

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eddhorse

I just cant see how the XBOX natal idea will work..

What if you are in the middle of a driving game and someone walks in or sits on the couch? Do you crash?
Or if your family pet is running around the room?

I think the idea is great but what will the execution be like?

As for the PS id still prefer to have a gamepad/controller/joystick.
You could see even the nerds who have been using this prototype a lot couldn't hit a tennis ball !

Kinetic^

Lads can we keep it on topic please.

Niall0

the only way either of these will be successfull is if the average joe wants to buy it. I dont think they will be able to compete with the wii even if they are far suerior.
Just look at the ipod, many superior mp3 players have been released and the ipod just keeps going. Basically because everyone and their mother knows what an ipod is.

The only potential i can see is for sword fighting tyoe of games, maybe sony could be planning a rival to Zelda, that could work.
First person shooters ? meh, at the end of the day youd be holding a fancy light gun. The best contols for a fps are probably mouse and keyboard, and now that i think of it why arent xbox and playstation jumping up and down on mouse and keyboard? they could use it for rts and fps games which could potentially be great instead we have to play red alert with a controller which is stupid.

Who the hell wants to jump around like an idiot in front of their xbox anyway? If that thing even works

Ruanej90

i dont get the xbox V ps3 thing both have ups and downs but i have to go with xbox360 being better console i mean ere getting facebook..... thats GOING TO ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!! plus its got equal graphics and a bigger game library..... PS3 is shiny and free online play.......which is better you ask?
i dont know or care!...:D:cool::P

mikeglee

XBOX TILL I DIE!!!

Overheal

So are new 360s RROD proof yet?

Professey Chin

mikeglee wrote: »

XBOX TILL I DIE!!!

.....ok

Overheal wrote: »

So are new 360s RROD proof yet?

Better then before but still nope. The consoles entire hardware design means its gonna always be a possible issue

DARK-KNIGHT

Grayditch wrote: »

Yeah, but those "retro-are-the-coolerist-than-both" chime-ins are always susceptible to even older ones, until the Ball & Paddle makes an appearance before being piped by Stick & Tire. Seriously.

thanks graybush your sarcasm is welcomed:rolleyes:

DARK-KNIGHT

mikeglee wrote: »

XBOX TILL I DIE!!!

jesus dont say that they will replace the 360 in a few years lol

DARK-KNIGHT

ok i cant see how this is gonna work without major flaws like for example as someone said someone walking across the line between you and the sensor!

BTW our neighbours are gonna see people using this system and making phonecalls to the big men in white coats and i have a feeling it will be hard to explain taking cover in front of your tv lol

nice idea though but wii i think have this area covered!

Overheal

See I would almost think "Oh if its just heating issues I'll get one of those attachment cooler yokes" but according to wikipedia, Microsoft will void your warranty if they find out you've been using one.

So the only alternative would be to buy one and just use the POS as it is, then watch it die, and be without it for weeks at a time.

Its no wonder I have not gotten into this console generation. PC ftw.

Niall0

Overheal wrote: »

So the only alternative would be to buy one and just use the POS as it is, then watch it die, and be without it for weeks at a time.

It doesnt happen to every 360.

Gummy Panda

Niall0 wrote: »

It doesnt happen to every 360.

At the start, it nearly did. I was member of a Xbox 360 forum and it was shocking how many of us suffered RRODs. I believe the elites have dropped the RROD rate a lot but its still there with some new fault. Hopefully this rumoured xbox 360 1.5 will be launched and resolve these issues for good.

Its a great machine in gaming terms but it sucks for build quality. If MS fix the build quality, I'll go back to having one.

Grayditch

If my Elite gets the RROD, I'll be done with the machine for good.

Overheal

M$ responded to claims that a new console would launch with the Natal. They basically stated

"I think part of the excitement about this announcement is that in many ways we are delivering a next generation experience this generation. With that said, I can confirm that Natal will run on Xbox 360 so no new console investment will be necessary."

Which is neither confirming nor denying a new model/slimline 360.

Gummy Panda

Most of these rumours are leaked out to test the waters.

Overheal

True. But im hoping it will solicit a real response from MS, who might consider a rebuild a good idea.

rizzla

Neither will really appeal to core gamers, if you have either console you might pick it up so you can show your casual mates/family that consoles are fun.

I'm not excited about it, the Wii ruined my optimism about motion control gaming.

I do like the idea somebody brought up in a podcast about natal, say in Forza 3, using the cockpit view rather than having to push a button to look out the side windows you just had to turn your head but you still had the controller in your hand. I want subtle intergration.