Gonna die on monday- IRISH!!!

higher level irish, anybody feel the same?
ive got ONE ESSAY learnt off, but its fairly broad and i think i can adjust it on the day. its about povety, the economic crisis, teenage problems and the environment.
got the summaries to cearrbhch and bean og learnt off. pretty sure il be able to answer whatever questions come up there.. hopefull theyll come up!!:(
im learning off an mhathair summary now. but it wont seem to stick with me..
starting to forget everything else ive learnt..
havent touched stair.. ive tried but it doesnt fit in my brain.
pretty sure i did a good oral, hoping for top marks. thank il be fine for the listening.. but then again...
i think im ok for the comprehensions, im good at cutting and pasting!!!
hoping gealt will come up because its pretty easy to answer questions on it, given that the poem is really easy irish anyway. dunno about whatever other poem may come up... actually really hope its jack. havent learnt anything really on them. i mean of done stuff for them but i havent learnt anything off for them.
i know the gist of triail. didnt read it but i know the story...
but now anytime i learn off something new the old one goes out the window!!!
didnt do the mocks.... only started the subject in feb/march...

anybody having similar problems or am i just screwed???

snazzy

EXACT SAME BOAT

I'm screwed but at the same time I'm taking today off after English.

I've one essay learnt off on the Recession. Must learn another for Heritage.

Am learning Bean Óg/Cearrbhach
Jack, Nil aon ni and faoiseamh
da mbhfeidir, mhathair, chead drama
Nothing for Triail - bull**** it like I did in the pre
Screwed for comprehensions and tape.

God only knows how I'll do.

do you need anything?
you hoping for a good grade?
i need a c3...

OxfordComma

Hahaha, I've no essays learnt...hahaha. I'm banking on Da mb'fheidir aris dar gcumann or An mhathair coming up for Paper 2...

So, so, so screwed. I'm not counting Irish but it'd be embarassing if I did really badly...

Fluorescence

I have nothing learned for HL irish yet so... yeah I'm dreading it!

My plan though: learn aiste phrases off today along with the 2 HL poems that have never come up (since we have a choice and one of them's bound to come up) and the Stair na Gaeilge. Tomorrow... try and cram the ol poetry, prose and An Triail into my head.... This is gonna be an EPIC failure....

i real hope what i want to come up comes up...
im baggin on:
an mháthair
jack
gealt
bean óg
cearrbhach
an essay about recession/ poverty/ environment
and really EASY comprehensions....

Fluorescence

[quote=[Deleted User];60569156]i real hope what i want to come up comes up...
im baggin on:
an mháthair
jack
gealt
bean óg
cearrbhach
an essay about recession/ poverty/ environment
and really EASY comprehensions....[/quote]


This sounds suspiciously like our mock :P It's a good bet though. With those notes you should be covered for most questions (well covered enough to b-s your way through ones you haven't prepared lol!)

jefreywithonef

Yo Rex Plump Smallpox, a cut and paste job isn't sufficient for the comprehensions, you need to answer them in your own words. In saying that, there will always be one or two in which a direct copy is the only option.

I'm pushing for an A to compensate for English. Slim chance of getting it but apparently a load of people in my class got full marks in the oral (I'm hoping that I'm one of them, especially since there's only ten of us in the class!) so with an essay on the recession or Irish language, a decent paper two and the aural going smoothly I'm crossing my fingers.

Monzo

Monzo wrote: »

Yo Rex Plump Smallpox, a cut and paste job isn't sufficient for the comprehensions, you need to answer them in your own words. In saying that, there will always be one or two in which a direct copy is the only option.

I'm pushing for an A to compensate for English. Slim chance of getting it but apparently a load of people in my class got full marks in the oral (I'm hoping that I'm one of them, especially since there's only ten of us in the class!) so with an essay on the recession or Irish language, a decent paper two and the aural going smoothly I'm crossing my fingers.

really i was told you can cut and paste all the question, i know youll lose some of the marks but il at least get half if not more. that said, i do have to cut and paste the right sentence though... hehehehe!!
also, dood ur like the man at irish, dont worry yourself youll do great. im positive.

Fluorescence

Well often if you just say "de réir an alt/an t-údar [cut and paste answer]" you'll get the full marks (assuming you've picked out the right sentence). Another easy way to "put it into your own words" is to change the names around (say just the first or last name, or full name, or title, or simply he/she... depending on what the original was). Works like a charm and got me almost full marks in my mocks for the comprehensions :cool:

jefreywithonef

Oh wait, yeah you're right about that actually. I think you just lose one mark by not changing into your own words (not certain on that though). Cheers for the kind words, I'm pessimistic by nature

LivingDeadGirl

Inever learn off essays, just handy phrases, bits of vocab and seanfhocals that I can slide into several different ones. I just rely on my Irish skillz really. If you're doing Honours then your basic Irish should be good enough so just trust yourself.

yeah well i dont really speak the language....
i was astonishingly fluent at the orals but i think it was just my day.
wish i could speak irish tho. that would be kinda handy.:D

bythewoods

I'm faily confident for the paper.

If you just copy & paste for the comprehensions you lose all the Gaeilge marks, no?
I'd never do it anyway to be honest.
Then again I'd never just throw down summaries of stories and poems either...

Anyway, Rex Plump Smallpox. I think I made it clear in previous threads that I don't really agree with the way you study for the subject, but how and ever, best of luck.
And the rest of you!

Go néééééééééirí an t-adh leo!

seriously.... you have a problemo. get over it man. move on.

bythewoods

[quote=[Deleted User];60570152]seriously.... you have a problemo. get over it man. move on.[/quote]

I'm female.
Anyway.
I retract my best wishes.
I was going to be a total prick and nitpick at all the things wrong in your original post, but instead I decided to be nice.
Pfff, last time I try doing that... :P

bythewoods

bythewoods wrote: »

I'm female.
Anyway.
I retract my best wishes.
I was going to be a total prick and nitpick at all the things wrong in your original post, but instead I decided to be nice.
Pfff, last time I try doing that... :P

dood, i call everybody man. i would call my mom man. i do.
do you have to nitpick at anything right now? im not giving anyone advise.
save your comments for when i do.

ps. you turn everything sour.

marshmallow

bythewoods wrote: »

I'm female.

Your avatar throws people!

Anyway LDG I'm with you. I find it a waste of time trying to learn off an irish essay because I'm good at Irish. Then again I did that and got a B3 for my essay in my mocks.. I'd love to know in detail how they mark the Irish essays because my grammar, vocab etc is good, dunno where I'm going wrong??

They seemed pretty lenient in the mocks for the comps. I got full marks and I didn't change them all. My entire class got 68-70 for the reading comps.

GERMAN ROCKS

i will really be concentrating on the essay and i will do maby two past tapes again myself as they are worth the most marks. i am only going to learn the two poems not asked before. no pint wasting time on the other poems for peanut marks. quick revision over all pass aspects of the course. an trial and an stair will take a lot of time as they just go in one ear and out the other.


lads if i were ye i would pratice listening to at least one past tape as the tape is worth a lot of marks and people tend to forget about this.

bythewoods

[quote=[Deleted User];60570632]dood, i call everybody man. i would call my mom man. i do.
do you have to nitpick at anything right now? im not giving anyone advise.
save your comments for when i do.

ps. you turn everything sour.[/quote]

Well, the conversation did turn to what marks are lost by not rearranging the answers to your comprehenesions.
So I answered. All the Gaeilge marks.

PS. OH NOEZZZZZ!
I am so bittah.
That's exactly what I was trying to do when I wished everyone luck - give the thread a negative edge.

--homeslice--

bythewoods wrote: »

If you just copy & paste for the comprehensions you lose all the Gaeilge marks, no?

nope not at all! I went to the Holy Tute for grinds in the b*starding subject (saturdays at 9 if you must know) and we were always told that you only get 5 marks, count 'em people 5, taken off you from the whole 35 if you just 'copy & paste'

don't know about you but for me they can have them five marks, i'll stick to my beautiful copying ways:cool:

bythewoods

--homeslice-- wrote: »

nope not at all! I went to the Holy Tute for grinds in the b*starding subject (saturdays at 9 if you must know) and we were always told that you only get 5 marks, count 'em people 5, taken off you from the whole 35 if you just 'copy & paste'

don't know about you but for me they can have them five marks, i'll stick to my beautiful copying ways:cool:

Does it not usually work that like, questions worth 4 marks are marked (3 +1), the 1 being for gaeilge.... so all the way down if you haven't been rearranging you lose the gaeilge mark?
Yeah, I'm fairly sure I'm right on that account..

Meh, s'okay anyway, I'm aiming for full marks on the comprehensions.

artemus

--homeslice-- wrote: »

nope not at all! I went to the Holy Tute for grinds in the b*starding subject (saturdays at 9 if you must know) and we were always told that you only get 5 marks, count 'em people 5, taken off you from the whole 35 if you just 'copy & paste'

don't know about you but for me they can have them five marks, i'll stick to my beautiful copying ways:cool:

that ther just summarises the leaving cert...awards for people who can cheat the system best...just change any word in your answer and you should be grand!!

manutd4life

i'm forked for irish.i dont know any essays and i know nothing about an triail.i just passed in my mocks (40% without an oral).

xprincessashx

im freaking terrified...what if i don't understand the essay titles? what if i can't do the an triail q?
amount of things that could go wrong...

piggies

didnt feel like studying today after the stress of english so i had a look at the chief examiner's report for irish last year, he/she said there's a huge increase in the amount of people learning off chunks of essays and stuff for prós and poems etc.
He/she advised against this saying sometimes this prevents you from answering exactly what is asked and this is where the majority of people lost out on marks last year!

just thought id share that

(dreading irish)

jefreywithonef

bythewoods wrote: »

Does it not usually work that like, questions worth 4 marks are marked (3 +1), the 1 being for gaeilge....

After a look at my comprehensions copy this is indeed right.

With regards to the way the mocks were marked, I wouldn't trust them too much tbh. Seems a fair few were marked by university students!

aine-maire

bythewoods wrote: »

Go néééééééééirí an t-adh leo!

Not to be nit-picking,but this is an Irish thread....


leo=them
libh=ye



Ádh mór libh go léir!;)

jefreywithonef

aine-maire wrote: »

Not to be nit-picking,but this is an Irish thread....


leo=them
libh=ye



Ádh mór libh go léir!;)

Don't forget the tremendous overuse of the 'é'

aine-maire

Monzo wrote: »

Don't forget the tremendous overuse of the 'é'

Oh,I kinda like that,added dramatic impact or whatever:p

She reeeeeeeeeeeeally wanted to wish us good luck:pac:

JW91

relax everyone!

I'm doing HL irish but I'm not concerned about it at all. I haven't done any homework since Easter and I don't know a single poem or any of the Stair. I know a general outline of the stories and a few phrases for the essay.

Despite this I'm not worried at all. I'm fully expecting a B.

This is because you don't need to study for Irish. The poems are written there on the paper in front of you! what do you need to learn exactly? and in any case the poems are only worth 10% anyway. and the stair is only worth 5%. They're so minor that there's no need to worry about them. I'll have no problem winging a reasonable answer for poetry on the day and none of you will either.

The places where the marks are picked up in Irish are the essay, the listening and the oral.

It's not an exam to get stressed out about

Reilly616

[quote=[Deleted User];60569333]really i was told you can cut and paste all the question, i know youll lose some of the marks but il at least get half if not more. that said, i do have to cut and paste the right sentence though... hehehehe!!
also, dood ur like the man at irish, dont worry yourself youll do great. im positive.[/quote]

I think you get about 3 out of 5 for cutting and pasting. It's always worth changing the sentence unless you have no idea what the actual answer is.

Reilly616

JW91 wrote: »

relax everyone!

I'm doing HL irish but I'm not concerned about it at all. I haven't done any homework since Easter and I don't know a single poem or any of the Stair. I know a general outline of the stories and a few phrases for the essay.

Despite this I'm not worried at all. I'm fully expecting a B.

This is because you don't need to study for Irish. The poems are written there on the paper in front of you! what do you need to learn exactly? and in any case the poems are only worth 10% anyway. and the stair is only worth 5%. They're so minor that there's no need to worry about them. I'll have no problem winging a reasonable answer for poetry on the day and none of you will either.

The places where the marks are picked up in Irish are the essay, the listening and the oral.

It's not an exam to get stressed out about

And the play.

jd007

I dont know any of the higher level poems,any of the stair and if an essay doesnt come up about recession/poverty..... im just walking out of the hall

oh well only the leaving cert!:rolleyes:

DDC1990

Some of ye may hate me for this but I've been in a Gaelscoil for my whole life and so Im sorta fluent-ish! Don't think i've studied Irish one bit. However I do suck at maths so feel free to mock me over that.

Apparently "Cearbhach MacCába" and "Bean Óg" have a decent chance of coming up in the scéalta.
SnaG - Méain Comarsáide (i.e TG4, RnaG, Foinse), Ruaríocht/Fianniacht (either or not both), Aisling Polaitiúl/Dán Grá, Fillíocht na Báird.
We did Maidhc Dainín instead of a play (he's a legend!!!): Meirceá is hotly tipped!
Dánta: Cathal Ó Searcaigh's havn't come up in a while, and the controvercy has died down about him, so expect: Níl aon Ní or Maighdeiléana to come up.

jefreywithonef

Lig Sin i gCathú came up in 2007 and 2008 didn't it? If so, surely they couldn't put it up for a third year?!

Yggdrasill

I have hardly anything learned for it. I only want to pass it(higher). I'm not relying on it for points.

xOxSinéadxOx

I'm fine about the poems cos they're printed, I'm fine for an triail, know the storyline. I need to go over the stories though, not really sure what happens in them? don't know any stair but think I might just skip that or maybe learn a few stuff like bealoideas and that, definitely not learning any poets. irish is grand, I suppose it's cos I'm good at it, like I know all my verbs and I'm able to make sentences. I'm not joking there's a lot of people in my class who can barely make sentences, they just learn **** off. If you write anything really for the poetry and all that, they give you marks. For an cearrbhach question in the mocks I didn't understand the question and just wrote a load of ****e for it and I got goodish marks.

DDC1990

Monzo wrote: »

Lig Sin i gCathú came up in 2007 and 2008 didn't it? If so, surely they couldn't put it up for a third year?!

You are correct, I meant to put down Cearbhach Mac Cába, but put that down by mistake. Sorry.

Piste

For paper one I have a standard opening and closing for a debate learned, as well as a few phrases for rebuttals. The Irish Language is tipped to come up so I prepared some points on it...that's pretty much all the paper 1 work I'm doing.

lovemaths

only have a recession essay learned - if it doesnt come up im completely done for!!
paper 2...nothing on an trial learned off yet...hoping something bout ireland in the 50's or lack of christianity comes up!
heard gealt,faoiseamh a gheobhadsa,cearrbhach mac caba,an bhean og,an mhathair,urchill an chreagain and da mb'fheidir aris dar gcumann have a good chance of coming up!

xOxSinéadxOx

Piste wrote: »

For paper one I have a standard opening and closing for a debate learned, as well as a few phrases for rebuttals. The Irish Language is tipped to come up so I prepared some points on it...that's pretty much all the paper 1 work I'm doing.

the irish language for paper 1?

Forde-fotos

An essay on the enviroment or the recession better be on paper 1 !

manutd4life

i'm screwed for irish.its mainly understanding the questions being asked that i have problems with.i know the storylines of the pros and the poems are wrtitten in front of you and i kind of know the storline for an triail.i havent learned any essays what so ever.but my main problem is understanding what is asked.anyone have any solutions for this?

xOxSinéadxOx

I find it hard to understand the questions too

manutd4life

i just passed in the mocks (40%) but the problem i had was that i wasnt answering the question.firstly i basically told the story and then just wrote a load of random stuff to make the answer longer

Twilighter

I'm praying for recession or poverty for the aiste.
My teacher gave us notes on the GAA-125 years aswell. What are the chances of something like that coming up?

lovemaths

manutd4life wrote: »

i'm screwed for irish.its mainly understanding the questions being asked that i have problems with.i know the storylines of the pros and the poems are wrtitten in front of you and i kind of know the storline for an triail.i havent learned any essays what so ever.but my main problem is understanding what is asked.anyone have any solutions for this?

yeah defo a huge problem for me too! really wish i went to a gaelscoile wud have been a huge advantage!! honestly id just learn off the meaning of words that could possibly come up....
mention - luaigh
describe - cur sios ar
the lack of - easpa
economic climate = timpeallacht eacnamaíoch
economic exploitation = dúshaothrú eacnamaíoch
mortgage = morgáiste
the campaign against poverty in the developing countries = an comhrac in aghaidh na bochtaineachta sna tíortha i mbéal forbartha
modern languages = nuatheangacha
the English language is recognised as a second official language = glactar leis an Sacs-Bhéarla mar theanga oifigiúil eile

damienricefan

sooo annoying that the aural isn't first!! us ordinary levelers will be bored ****less for about an hour waiting for it!!!

squirrel!

pitty ye cant pull a sicky and not turn up! tomorrow is goin to be a bad ass day!:eek:

spoonbadger

Howdy all, with paper 1 tomorow i thought it'd be nice to have a thread for all parts of irish (ie. HALP, irish tomorow, i'm screwed!! thread :pac:).


Just to get the ball rolling (:D)...

1. How much are we supposed to write for the essay?.
2. What does everyone have prepared for it?.

I basically have recession prepared. Using the "into-current situation-problems-solutions-conclusions" method. Thinking of talking about jobs, education, homelessness, blame and solutions to these. Any else got any ideas?.