Double Round Bale Handler

reilig

I'm very tempted to buy a double round bale carrier for this season. I am just wondering if anyone has one of them and how they find it??

There are a few manufacturers - Fleming have one which lifts the first bale while you back into the second costing about €1000.

I know that Nugent also make them, but don't know about price.

Does anyone know how big of a tractor you would need to work it?
I have a NH T5050 - but its not weighted. I was reconing that it should be able to carry 2 bales because it is able to carry a roller full of water whick is over 1.8 ton in weight.

Any feedback or advice would be appreciated.

Bitten & Hisses

I've never used one myself, but I know someone who uses one with an 80Hp McCormick. He had to get a second assistor ram retro-fitted because it wouldn't lift the 2 bales otherwise. It's something I'm seriously considering too, but probably not this year due to budget constraints. I reckon any reasonably-sized modern tractor should be able for it, but you'd probably need a decent set of weights up front.

GERMAN ROCKS

we have a massey 390 with a double handler we would put weights on front if the loader wasnt on. lifts no problem. we normally use the loader as well and take 3 bales in one go.

reilig

Thanks

I priced a Nugent, Fleming and Conor Today. The Fleming and Conor come in around €1050 inc vat. The Nugent, priced just across the border comes in at €900. The all have a similar spec - same thickness of steel and seem to all be identical copies of each other.

Think I'm going to invest.

Bitten & Hisses

Do they all have the lifting arrangement for the first bale you collect?

emaherx

No, most probably don't.
I've used ones which don't and the best thing to do with them is to drop two bales beside each other with the wrapper (ie wrap one bale drive to the next and pick it up before droping off the first). Or else you would need to lift one bale then drop it on the wrong side of the next bale, drive forward out of it and then reverse back and pick up the two together

pakalasa

This might be of interest to you.
Irish company!
A contractor machine I guess.

http://www.bridgewayengineering.com/products/transporters/

I have used a six bale handler myself. It's a different design to the one shown. It's got like two tube frames that drop down on both sides and the bales are lifted alternatively on each side to balance the load. It is really only suitable for handling before you wrap but it does a good job. You would need a 100hp 4wd though to handle the six.;)

reilig

Bought a Nugent double bale handler in Derrylin Fermanagh for €700 on saturday. It does not have a hydraulic lift for the first bale but is hydraulic tipping. Most my bales are lined up for wrapping so should be easily lifting 2 at a time with it.

Also bought Quinn silage wrap for €55 per roll, CAN fertilizer at €200 per ton and Rush Spray for €44 - same stuff in local coop costs €75.

Amazing savings to be made by traveling 30 miles.

reilig

pakalasa wrote: »

This might be of interest to you.
Irish company!
A contractor machine I guess.

http://www.bridgewayengineering.com/products/transporters/

I have used a six bale handler myself. It's a different design to the one shown. It's got like two tube frames that drop down on both sides and the bales are lifted alternatively on each side to balance the load. It is really only suitable for handling before you wrap but it does a good job. You would need a 100hp 4wd though to handle the six.;)

I saw that - it looks very complicated for a trailer that only carries 5 bales. Bridgeway are very expensive too.

Malone (I think) have a much better self loading 6 bale carrier.

Bitten & Hisses

reilig wrote: »

Bought a Nugent double bale handler in Derrylin Fermanagh for €700 on saturday. It does not have a hydraulic lift for the first bale but is hydraulic tipping. Most my bales are lined up for wrapping so should be easily lifting 2 at a time with it.

Also bought Quinn silage wrap for €55 per roll, CAN fertilizer at €200 per ton and Rush Spray for €44 - same stuff in local coop costs €75.

Amazing savings to be made by traveling 30 miles.

Well done, Nugent make great stuff. I have a hydraulic transport box from them for 10 years and it's able to take punishment to say the least. Was that price excluding VAT?
You got a great deal on silage wrap. I have been quoted €72 to €74 per roll here in the last week.

quietsailor

reilig wrote: »

I saw that - it looks very complicated for a trailer that only carries 5 bales. Bridgeway are very expensive too.

Malone (I think) have a much better self loading 6 bale carrier.

There's another machine that's used by contractors around Limerick - it's made by a company called Keltec and can self load from 6 to 10 bales., here's a link to a video of one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp_yNFSmOqU

It's probably too much money for a farmer as it can only be used for collecting round bales but it might be useful for contractors to see

Casinoking

I've got a Nugent double bale handler I bought new 2 years ago. It's lasting fairly well, although it had to have the ram replaced after a week and the hinges have had to be welded a couple of times. A handy tool, a decent wrapper driver who can leave 2 bales side by side is the key to moving bales quickly with it though. As for the price of silage wrap, I bought 2 pallets from Glanbia last week at €69.50 a roll collected. Had been quoted up to €75 elsewhere. I think the price is coming back though so hopefully I'll see a difference when I go back for more.

pakalasa

quietsailor wrote: »

There's another machine that's used by contractors around Limerick - it's made by a company called Keltec and can self load from 6 to 10 bales., here's a link to a video of one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp_yNFSmOqU

It's probably too much money for a farmer as it can only be used for collecting round bales but it might be useful for contractors to see

Thats the machine I was talking about in the above post.
As I said it seemed more suited for use before wrapping. I even managed to damaged a few myself. My ground was a little uneven too which didn't help. I thought it was a great machine though.

quietsailor

pakalasa wrote: »

Thats the machine I was talking about in the above post.
As I said it seemed more suited for use before wrapping. I even managed to damaged a few myself. My ground was a little uneven too which didn't help. I thought it was a great machine though.

The contractor I worked for back in the mid nineties owned the original of those - a 6 bale Kneverland single axle machine. It was a beautiful light machine but the tyres weren't up to 6 (or 8 if it was late on a fri night) wet chopped bales and the arms tended to need welding a lot. I think the Keltec ones are made a lot heavier. I know the 10 bales handlers are monsters, I've seen a fully loaded one one pushing an 8210 with weights around a yard when the driver took a corner fast. On short draws - up to 3 miles - I don't think any other method of drawing bakes is faster. An added bonus is that a GOOD handler driver will leave long parallel lines of bales in the field which speeds up the wrappers life no end.

oh and they don't need jacks to change wheels either, just drop the arm on a handy bump in the ground and up she comes

adne

reilig wrote: »

Also bought Quinn silage wrap for €55 per roll, CAN fertilizer at €200 per ton and Rush Spray for €44 - same stuff in local coop costs €75.

Amazing savings to be made by traveling 30 miles.

What the name of the retailer in Derrylin??

reilig

adne wrote: »

What the name of the retailer in Derrylin??

I think I have to PM that name to you which I will do. i was up there last night to collect my bale carrier. There was a line of jeeps and trailers ahead of me and 4 waiting to be loaded when I got up there - several more behind me. He's selling a world of wrap and fertilizer and its a very small place.

Sean mc k

adne wrote: »

What the name of the retailer in Derrylin??

I bought cheap wrap in derrylin for 55euro at Mc Corry Agri supplies, saved a fortune by going down. he sells nugent trailers, slurry tankers, meal all great value. i have his number 048 67748343

Sean mc k

mc corry agri supplies in derrylin have silage wrap for 55 euro. loads of stuff nugent trailers, meal and everything. very cheap place. people coming from everywhere to it

the number is 048-67748343

c.k agri

Was helping my cousin bring in bales sunday he got the plastic from that retailer in derrylin broke his heart with the plastic breaking while wrapping :mad: never had this problem before used volic at the finish up wrapped fine the plastic seems to be thiner and seems to strech alot more when wrapping then other brands, did any one else find this problem...?

reilig

Wrapped and stacked 200 bales with that wrap yesterday and found no problem with it. I can usually tell how strong wrap is by the cut and tie on the wrapper - if the wrap continualy breaks on the first turn or two of the wrapper table, then I think its Muck. The Quinn wrap never broke with me anyway. I won't wrap with Volac - i find it the weakest wrap on the market.

Sean mc k

i wrapped 180 bales definitly nothing wrong with wrap. don't know what happened you or why u coming up wth that. know loads of farmers and contracters that use quinn wrap and would swear by it.

vanderbadger

reilig wrote: »

I'm very tempted to buy a double round bale carrier for this season. I am just wondering if anyone has one of them and how they find it??

There are a few manufacturers - Fleming have one which lifts the first bale while you back into the second costing about €1000.

I know that Nugent also make them, but don't know about price.

Does anyone know how big of a tractor you would need to work it?
I have a NH T5050 - but its not weighted. I was reconing that it should be able to carry 2 bales because it is able to carry a roller full of water whick is over 1.8 ton in weight.

Any feedback or advice would be appreciated.

just wondering how this worked out for you last year ?? its coming to that time of year and was think of getting one myself but reckoned I might go for the flemming as it offsets the fist bale, I dont think the other types do this

reilig

vanderbadger wrote: »

just wondering how this worked out for you last year ?? its coming to that time of year and was think of getting one myself but reckoned I might go for the flemming as it offsets the fist bale, I dont think the other types do this

It was a comfort. Saved a lot of time stacking bales. Well worth the money. We line up all our bales for wrapping and I wrap them myself so there was no problem backing under 2 at a time - so the one that offsets the bales wouldn't be much addition to me. The nugent lifter is made from good strong stuff. Only issue with it is that I have to use a hydraulic toplink with it in order to tilt it for picking up the bale and tilting the bale in once its on the lifter. This is to do with the lift arms on the new holland rather than the bale carrier and is the same with every other implement used on it.

snowman707

i saw some at the ploughing , by a company in tipperary , think they were gleeson's from near thurles

vanderbadger

reilig wrote: »

It was a comfort. Saved a lot of time stacking bales. Well worth the money. We line up all our bales for wrapping and I wrap them myself so there was no problem backing under 2 at a time - so the one that offsets the bales wouldn't be much addition to me. The nugent lifter is made from good strong stuff. Only issue with it is that I have to use a hydraulic toplink with it in order to tilt it for picking up the bale and tilting the bale in once its on the lifter. This is to do with the lift arms on the new holland rather than the bale carrier and is the same with every other implement used on it.

thanks for the info, I will prob have a variety of lads wrapping though so I think if i get one i will go for the one that can offset the bale, dont think i will get a good a deal as mccorrys either but fermanagh is a bit too much of a spin from clare

poor farmer

i BOught a nugent double lifter from mc corry last summer its a godsend
he is keen for all inputs
bought wrap off cassidy in ballyconell good wrap good price

Bitten & Hisses

We bought a Fleming one last year with the hydraulic lift at one side as you described. It has been a godsend, no doubt about it. Where I find it most useful is if I'm on my own and have say 30 bales to draw it's easier to draw 3 at a time with the loader and double handler rather than fooling around with a trailer.

vanderbadger

Bitten & Hisses wrote: »

We bought a Fleming one last year with the hydraulic lift at one side as you described. It has been a godsend, no doubt about it. Where I find it most useful is if I'm on my own and have say 30 bales to draw it's easier to draw 3 at a time with the loader and double handler rather than fooling around with a trailer.

what kinda money they making if you dont mind me asking..sems to be only fleming that makes that offset option

Bitten & Hisses

Around stg£750 ex VAT, but that was as part of much bigger deal. If I saw one near me for €1000-1100 incl VAT I'd be happy enough.

Greengrass1

Looking to buy a bale carrier for out farm.
Can't get down with bale trailer. Borrowed a single one last week and took us 5 hrs to bring 48 bales.
Single Nugent costing 375
Double costing 1150
Serious price difference

Zr105

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Looking to buy a bale carrier for out farm.
Can't get down with bale trailer. Borrowed a single one last week and took us 5 hrs to bring 48 bales.
Single Nugent costing 375
Double costing 1150
Serious price difference

If your not worried about being able to lift individual bales there's an awful lot of lads on dd selling doubles for round the 8-900, they certainly look alright. So long as the box is 100*100 box with 10mm wall and welds are good should be alright,

Greengrass1

Zr105 wrote: »

If your not worried about being able to lift individual bales there's an awful lot of lads on dd selling doubles for round the 8-900, they certainly look alright. So long as the box is 100*100 box with 10mm wall and welds are good should be alright,

Seen ones on it in Mayo and Limerick but they don't look that awfully strong. Only a piece of angle iron put down beside the tube.
Two brands I seen today and a pin in the middle off them which looked like the could handle more pressure

Zr105

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Seen ones on it in Mayo and Limerick but they don't look that awfully strong. Only a piece of angle iron put down beside the tube.
Two brands I seen today and a pin in the middle off them which looked like the could handle more pressure

This was the one i had in mind, id say its certainly as heavy as the Fleming one anyways,
http://www.donedeal.ie/view/6811249
double bale lifters for sale


I see the one in Mayo there and i would agree with you on that one alright,

Greengrass1

Zr105 wrote: »

This was the one i had in mind, id say its certainly as heavy as the Fleming one anyways,
http://www.donedeal.ie/view/6811249
double bale lifters for sale


I see the one in Mayo there and i would agree with you on that one alright,

Thanks for that. I missed that one
Father after seeing one in Fitzpatrick's in monastrevin for 750

td5man

Watch that the bales aren't touching each other, saw one being returned to dealer last year for this reason and it was made by a major manufacturer.

Greengrass1

td5man wrote: »

Watch that the bales aren't touching each other, saw one being returned to dealer last year for this reason and it was made by a major manufacturer.

Ye thatd be a big problem. May as well be a single

Zr105

td5man wrote: »

Watch that the bales aren't touching each other, saw one being returned to dealer last year for this reason and it was made by a major manufacturer.

Would it not be better if they were just barely touching? Id want it that way, otherwise if find id have to re shift them with front handler to have them tight in stack....

Odelay

Zr105 wrote: »

This was the one i had in mind, id say its certainly as heavy as the Fleming one anyways,
http://www.donedeal.ie/view/6811249
double bale lifters for sale


I see the one in Mayo there and i would agree with you on that one alright,

Where is the hydrolic tipping they advertised? No sign of ram or hoses. Assume it is either by top link or an extra to be paid for?

Greengrass1

Odelay wrote: »

Where is the hydrolic tipping they advertised? No sign of ram or hoses. Assume it is either by top link or an extra to be paid for?

I wouldn't need it any way. The one I borrowed last week I just dropped bales on the ground and picked up with stacker

Zr105

Odelay wrote: »

Where is the hydrolic tipping they advertised? No sign of ram or hoses. Assume it is either by top link or an extra to be paid for?

If you look at the pic of the back of it the linkage is there for it just the ram isn't attached!

maco2000

I see a Gleeson’s Double Hydraulic Bale handler with tilt advertised in the Co-op for €1250.

9935452

maco2000 wrote: »

I see a Gleeson’s Double Hydraulic Bale handler with tilt advertised in the Co-op for €1250.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5E1YWOex-c
Its enough for it isnt it? for whats esssentially a bale handler with pipes welder on, no trip. Also considering the engineering firm up the road has a new double with paddles for sale for 750 incl vat due to a cancelled order.

The bales look very close to each other in the video. You would also wonder ho it gets on when the bales get soft and thus wider.

maco2000

Ya tis pricey alright. You need to move them pretty much straight away after wrapping I'd say to avoid any tears. Not good when they're touching. Friend of mine got one made by a local welder and looks a great job, very strong and good gap between the bales but we line them up for him when bringing in bales using a tanco hydraulic front bale handler which I picked up second hand below in Abbey Retail for €500. Great job, he brings two in & we bring another two with front & rear bale handlers so makes short work of them.

Nekarsulm

A local engineering firm here in Cavan make these double handlers. The first bale is lifted on the orange lifter, and then it can be slid sideways and upwards until you lift the second one on the green side.

Edit, they are located in Co. Leitrim!

C0N0R

Nekarsulm wrote: »

A local engineering firm here in Cavan make these double handlers. The first bale is lifted on the orange lifter, and then it can be slid sideways and upwards until you lift the second one on the green side.

Edit, they are located in Co. Leitrim!

Good job? Expensive?

Nekarsulm

Mucho buckos.
The local farm machinery dealer (where I photoed these) asked 1750 for this model. Ordinary tipping double was, I think, 850.

Topchar

Hi,could someone help me please,where can i get contact details for whoever sells the above handler? They look the part! thanks

Nekarsulm

I saw those in Sheridan Machinery, Arva. 049 4335247. Ask for Willie or Cyril

oxjkqg

any interest in this..

Topchar

I have made up my mind i need one that can lift the first bale off the ground and also tip them on their ends at the stack. Thanks anyway. Has anyone any experience with MDE engineering ones?

oxjkqg

Not trying to change your mind but i use that 1 to tip them no bother, the paddles cradle the bale as you lift and the paddle has more contact with the bale. i pick 1 bale, drive beside the 2nd, leave down first bale, pull out, reverse in, quicker than you think.but if you have your heart set thats A1.

The MDE, fleming, nugent etc are all pretty smilar and do what they say, 1100 will buy you any of them and all the northern stuff is well made.