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Harvey's introduce a cover-charge

  • 01-06-2009 7:19am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭


    I was out on Saturday night and we decided to head to Harveys around midnight. When we got there, they were taking money at the door. The doorman told us it was a new thing, beginning that night. If you go there after 11pm, expect to pay €10.

    Now, there was no way we were paying so much for the privilige of standing in one inch of p*ss, or for overpriced drinks, so we went to Muldoons instead and it was fairly full in there.

    Have Harvey's scored an own-goal, or will people still go there?

    To me, it seemed a bad idea. There's a recession on, and if Harveys want to attract customers before 11pm, they should come up with more attractive ideas.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭daftdave


    gscully wrote: »
    I was out on Saturday night and we decided to head to Harveys around midnight. When we got there, they were taking money at the door. The doorman told us it was a new thing, beginning that night. If you go there after 11pm, expect to pay €10.

    Now, there was no way we were paying so much for the privilige of standing in one inch of p*ss, or for overpriced drinks, so we went to Muldoons instead and it was fairly full in there.

    Have Harvey's scored an own-goal, or will people still go there?

    To me, it seemed a bad idea. There's a recession on, and if Harveys want to attract customers before 11pm, they should come up with more attractive ideas.

    have to agree with ya on that one , the drink in there is expensive enough without em charging ya a tenner before they start to rip you off !!!

    muldoons is a stink hole and badly needs a revamp , i think ruby's lounge is gonna be that bit more packed (if thats possible) on a weekend night.

    i hope people vote with their feet and dont bother going to harveys because of this , but somehow id doubt that is gonna happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    It's a borderline outrage,

    I WILL NOT pay to go in there if they keep the prices of the drinks the same. It's nuts. I went too that new pub where baker street used to be its like a mock biker bar now and TBH I thought it was the best pub i've been in ages. No covger charge so far but there will be after june but the band was savage there and the drinks where very reasonable and staff seemed sound had a chat with a few in the drunken state i was in.

    Anyway, shame on harveys and its going to be a major mistake there IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    A major own goal and a gift to the competition. But having been to Harveys a few times I get the sense that they weren't making a whole lot of money. Take a student night for example...they'd have no door charge and the average spend per student head was €4 euro. (that's some people spending a fiver, some people spending 8-10 and others spending nothing). They have a ton of bar staff, a lot more than needed and only getting 2-3 busy nights a week.

    Now, with students gone, they're done to opening only 2 nights a week. I think the accountant came in to look at the books and said...you need to put a charge on that door. "But that will bury us!!!" "why, the accountant would ask....Rubys charges a tenner on saturday and fiver on friday and they don't even have a smoking area"

    Muldoons and Ruby Lounge will benefit...but I think the real benefactor is just waiting in the wings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭baronflyguy


    Heard about this yesterday and I couldn't believe it. Very disappointed with Harveys doing this. Another reason why people will stay at home longer and not go out and possibly have house parties with friends.

    Saying that I ended up going to Harveys last night and paid the tenner because the group I was with wanted to go in regardless. On the way to Harveys there was a big crowd walking away from the door when they found out they had to pay 10 euros. It was a very steady flow. More people walking away than going in.

    When I paid and got in I found was that the place wasn't very busy inside and reminded me of a thursday night in there. This was around 11:30pm

    Then by the end of the night (approx 1.30am) it started to get really busy.
    Why was it getting really busy I was wondering?
    Well apparently people started to get for FREE.

    Plus I learned from chatting to a few ladies in Harveys that a lot of women refused to pay and made a big deal about it to the cashier and guess what? They got in for FREE. I havent heard any guy getting in for free (I would guess a guy arguing why he should not pay to go in would see the security guys move in and lifting him out of the way). To me it looked like near the end of the night when the cashier disappeared at the door anyone could get in for me possibly because they realised that it is better than have a full pub/night club than a half full one.

    So basically I'm a Muppet for paying cause I'm an easy going type of person who is not argumentative or confrontational when I go out and if people in front of me are paying 10 euros then I assume everyone who goes in there will be paying the same.

    On a positive note, I went out a lot in Kilkenny over the weekend to the cat laughes festival and I really liked the buzz on the night out in Kilkenny especially the "Left Bank" pub. I will be going there again. I'll probably take a break going out in waterford for a while cause I'm not feeling the welcoming love anymore unless of course I pay a tenner :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭baronflyguy


    gscully wrote: »
    There's a recession on, and if Harveys want to attract customers before 11pm, they should come up with more attractive ideas.
    I think it is free to go before 11pm, but not 100% sure, I have a vague recollection of seeing the wording displayed. Maybe someone else can confirm or deny it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 araisaris


    i was one of the guys security had a problem with.

    some load of hoop playing a tenor into the **** hole. over priced drink, bad music, same old crap. the uluru is the same do ya know? that ricky whelan bating out the same songs, meatloaf, dire straits and lady gaga about twenty times a night when he heads off out to smoking area for himself then.

    waterford has gone to hell for nites out and in my opinion the best pub/late bar in the town is ruby lounge. by miles.

    i think harveys just screwed themselves over and shot themselves in the foot. they will not be getting anymore of my business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭gscully


    I think it is free to go before 11pm, but not 100% sure, I have a vague recollection of seeing the wording displayed. Maybe someone else can confirm or deny it.

    Sorry, I may not have been clear enough in my opening post. It was the doorman who told me that it was €10 after 11pm, not a conclusion I jumped to ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    araisaris wrote: »
    some load of hoop playing a tenor into the **** hole.
    Why would you be paying an opera singer to get into harveys :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭daftdave


    he's playing a tenor not paying....... which leads me to believe he is playing some kind of unheard of musical instrument at the door to gain free access !!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    daftdave wrote: »
    he's playing a tenor not paying....... which leads me to believe he is playing some kind of unheard of musical instrument at the door to gain free access !!!!!
    Or he could have stuck a flute up the tenors arse and is now making sweet symphonies by using the tenor as an instrument.Solved!!!!

    ill stop now


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭floyd333


    We came across this on Saturday night as well. Couldn't believe it. Like the OP said it's a recession. are they trying to commit commercial suicide???? electric avenue seem to be charging all the time lately too. This just leaves Rubys lounge which is too small and Muldoons which is full of scum.... will be interesting to see how the new place twister vicks does..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    floyd333 wrote: »
    We came across this on Saturday night as well. Couldn't believe it. Like the OP said it's a recession. are they trying to commit commercial suicide???? electric avenue seem to be charging all the time lately too. This just leaves Rubys lounge which is too small and Muldoons which is full of scum.... will be interesting to see how the new place twister vicks does..

    That's it i couldn't think of name, i went there sunday night and i thought it was quality, prob is i know allot of my friends won't go there because the girls prefer your lady ga ga's as agaist the pretty much 90% rock music they played there.

    I'd def recommend anyone to go there, oh by the by if anyone here happened to be there sunday nignt did anyone catch the name of the band?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    Im not saying to go in there. Only reason I like it is because of the smoking area. Not paying a tenner for that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭foxylad


    but twister vics will be charging on the door too!
    this weekend was only an intro offer

    then again -
    was in cork -- €15 in night club---
    but drinks were a little cheaper

    suppose we have to pat for our entertainment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭gscully


    I just wish pubs would use a little more imagination when it comes to attracting new customers or gaining extra revenue. The approach Harvey's are using is similar to the unimaginative government we have at the moment. Need more money? Take it from the people without offering anything in return, except for what they used to get for free.

    You see pubs on the continent offering people an incentive like happy-hour, or themed nights. If Harvey's want people in before 11pm, they should put something on!

    Masons, down the road, is not everyone's cup of tea, but at least they're trying to do something different by having weekly darts nights, cards nights and coyote ugly nights. I was in there on Saturday night and the place was heaving and the music excellent...oh, and the women were stunning ;)

    It has been mentioned before that Harveys increase their drink prices after 11pm. I assume there's no longer a need for that, with the cover charge? Yeah, I suspected as much!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭daftdave


    gscully wrote: »
    I just wish pubs would use a little more imagination when it comes to attracting new customers or gaining extra revenue. The approach Harvey's are using is similar to the unimaginative government we have at the moment. Need more money? Take it from the people without offering anything in return, except for what they used to get for free.

    You see pubs on the continent offering people an incentive like happy-hour, or themed nights. If Harvey's want people in before 11pm, they should put something on!

    Masons, down the road, is not everyone's cup of tea, but at least they're trying to do something different by having weekly darts nights, cards nights and coyote ugly nights. I was in there on Saturday night and the place was heaving and the music excellent...oh, and the women were stunning ;)

    It has been mentioned before that Harveys increase their drink prices after 11pm. I assume there's no longer a need for that, with the cover charge? Yeah, I suspected as much!

    masons used to be good on a sunday evening also with the bands they had on , its been a couple of months since i have been home in waterford , not sure if they still put music on a sunday...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    Used to head into Harveys now and again, was a decent spot. On the drinks side of things most of the clubs in that area would want to cop on price wise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭googlefan


    Pubs need to offer more value. Take 'The Brog' in Cork for example. Up to 6pm pints are €2.90 and the place is ticking over nicely.

    During the week and weekends there is no cover charge and the price goes back up to €4.50 I think but its a very decent night spot with good music.

    Another spot in Dungarvan is offering cheap pints recently I hear also, one friend informed me they do a bucket of 8 Corona for €20. Again the place is jointed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭hellfireie


    was headin into havreys saturday nite got stopped for the 10 euros door charge , i joined the flock of other people heading to mason's . bang out of order from havreys , was in there sunday nite didnt get stung the tenner had a look in the door handful of people in there headed up town without buying a pint in harveys , i think people said F+++em plenty of good other places to by overpriced beer in this town !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭1967


    I heard about this yesterday bloody joke,i dont know who are worse Harveys for charging €10 or the people stupid enough to pay it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭Musicman2000


    One word suicide, people don’t have the money in these tight times.
    Harvey’s or more like the Kavanaghs are screwing people on the price of drink, can’t see it lasting if they are losing the many customers, but someone told me they are opening a new club or disco bar in Revolution if that’s right im not sure


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭anplaya


    One word suicide, people don’t have the money in these tight times.
    Harvey’s or more like the Kavanaghs are screwing people on the price of drink, can’t see it lasting if they are losing the many customers, but someone told me they are opening a new club or disco bar in Revolution if that’s right im not sure

    yeah thats right,think theyre adding another 2 floors above Revs, one of the lads was talking to Flash,said it should be open in August


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭shapez


    This is absurd!! Especially with the economic downturn. What are they thinking!! The price of drink in Harveys is a disgrace as it is, even with this price freeze!!!
    11.99 for 2 Coronas and 24 bottles for 15.99 in Dunnes or Tescos!!!

    Big mistake IMO from Harveys. I shall be staying at home an extra hour before I go out now and I'll be going to a bar that won't be charging be to buy their expensive drink there. And lets not get started on taxi prices!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭babystrawberry


    Was in harveys on sunday night, was a disgrace,they were charging to get in, think they only charged fiver each to us but the place was sooooo dead in there compared to other bank holiday weekends, it was like a quiet saturday night int here, couldnt get over it ... if they keep it up they gonna loose a LOT of business:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭merlante


    This thread is mad. People are suggesting that Harvey's put on the cover charge because they are about to close down! Harvey's put on the cover charge because on Friday and Saturday nights they are getting in a ton of people who could be paying more. For the older crowd it's the only show in town, with Muldoons coming in a very poor second. A lot of people were drinking elsewhere and only buying a drink or two in there so naturally they're trying to making some money out of all of the people coming through.

    It will making me and a lot of others think twice, but to be honest, it will still get a big crowd and if it turns out that the place seems a little bit more exclusive, you could see it get even more popular.

    Whoever thinks that the place is half empty and is about to close obviously never goes there. They will make a lot of money with this, because quite frankly, unless all you want is a late drink -- when you're better off in Muldoons or the Woodman -- it has no meaningful competition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,975 ✭✭✭nkay1985


    If only Ruby's Lounge was a bit bigger they'd have some real competition. It's a nice spot with some decent live music (miles better thatn any of the crap they play in Harvey's IMO) but it's just too small. Even a slight remodel of the place could make it much better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 araisaris


    merlante,

    in my opinion your talking out of ur derriere my good man, making the place more exclusive, this isnt diceys garden or the ritz we are talking about, we are talking about a late bar that is a bit out of the way from the usual hive of activity that is now complaining that people dont spend any money in there and now reckon they will re coup their lost earnings tru charging punters now. it is a slippery slope they are on and they will in my opinion fall down the order now based on the following logic.

    1. i enjoy drinking and go out 2 nites a week defo... used frequent harveys but i dont and wont out of principal any more... what they have done is essentially told previous punters we dont want you any more please take ur custom elsewhere. and i will for one and any other half whitted person should to.

    2. i generally drink in the wacky apple or anywhere there is a promo on as i enjoy being in a pub more to drinking cans... the difference is marginal in cost and offset by the atmosphere of a pub.

    3. when i am a bit skint i drink at home but i generally would stil lhave 20-30 spuds to my name when i go out, but ill be damned giving some gimp on the door a tenor to then be charged (as i was one night over 8 euros for cordial for 4 x vodka and blackcurrents) in harveys. also their yagermeister isnt the real deal some cheap ****e imported stuff but i think you will find that they charge full whack for it regardless.

    any one familiar to the term price elasticity of demand will know as price goes up quantity demanded goes down and in most instances revenue will increase proprotionally more for an elastic good.

    what i would recommend harveys to do in order to increase revenue is actually drop the bloody prices and be a bit more consumer friendly. people in waterford dont want to pay to see aslan or any other crap but what we do want is a decent dj with variation, a well policed and vetted crowd and reasonably priced drink. the cheaper or proportionally cheaper the drink the more people are likely to buy a bit more instead of going in plastered and supping on a single pint...

    rant over!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭merlante


    araisaris wrote: »
    merlante,

    in my opinion your talking out of ur derriere my good man, making the place more exclusive, this isnt diceys garden or the ritz we are talking about, we are talking about a late bar that is a bit out of the way from the usual hive of activity that is now complaining that people dont spend any money in there and now reckon they will re coup their lost earnings tru charging punters now. it is a slippery slope they are on and they will in my opinion fall down the order now based on the following logic.

    1. i enjoy drinking and go out 2 nites a week defo... used frequent harveys but i dont and wont out of principal any more... what they have done is essentially told previous punters we dont want you any more please take ur custom elsewhere. and i will for one and any other half whitted person should to.

    2. i generally drink in the wacky apple or anywhere there is a promo on as i enjoy being in a pub more to drinking cans... the difference is marginal in cost and offset by the atmosphere of a pub.

    3. when i am a bit skint i drink at home but i generally would stil lhave 20-30 spuds to my name when i go out, but ill be damned giving some gimp on the door a tenor to then be charged (as i was one night over 8 euros for cordial for 4 x vodka and blackcurrents) in harveys. also their yagermeister isnt the real deal some cheap ****e imported stuff but i think you will find that they charge full whack for it regardless.

    any one familiar to the term price elasticity of demand will know as price goes up quantity demanded goes down and in most instances revenue will increase proprotionally more for an elastic good.

    what i would recommend harveys to do in order to increase revenue is actually drop the bloody prices and be a bit more consumer friendly. people in waterford dont want to pay to see aslan or any other crap but what we do want is a decent dj with variation, a well policed and vetted crowd and reasonably priced drink. the cheaper or proportionally cheaper the drink the more people are likely to buy a bit more instead of going in plastered and supping on a single pint...

    rant over!!

    Well, you're entitled to your opinion. In my opinion, the knacker kip that is the Wacky Apple makes Harvey's look like the Ritz, but that's opinions for ye.

    The point is that Harvey's at the weekend is extremely popular. There is no doubting this. Putting a tenner on the door will probably turn out to make them a lot of money. A tenner is two drinks. That's about 50% more than I'd say the average person drinks in there. Your economic analysis is too simplistic and assumes a competitive market. Harvey's has poor competition, therefore people will pay for the better product. Also, as I said, there is a possibility that if all skint people and undesirables are kept out and the people who pay in feel more special, then the numbers could increase. It's human psychology. The proof will be in the pudding.

    If Harvey's were struggling with poor demand, then I'd say drop the prices, but at the moment they are oversubscribed if anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 araisaris


    how do u reckon they are over subscribed?? i wouldnt say they are based on what was said earlier that they are looking to get more money out of people, so they want to cut out the people that come in for a pint and see who is around or do they want to just try cream more money from people.

    good luck to them, if they wanted to make it exclusive why not make it 23 yo up or 21s or whatever and stick to it? that way u are generally assured off having a more cash rich age profile in the place.

    not charge the already skint public a tenor in and then a pint of domestos with a heinken head on it for 5 euro and infact its not even a fiver some hungry hoor comes looking for the ten cent too on occasion.

    i dont think competition is poor, ruby lounge and muldoons are always full, revolution was going well for a while there, harveys is seen i suppose as the 26 plus VAT kinda age profile, but like it is just pure hunger on their behalf trying to cream money from the public like that. aside from rubys also there is a lot of comp for harveys outside of waterford city, think of all the pubs on dunmore road, cove, uluru, becketts, oscars, then out the cork road and outskirts of town, the fellas thinking will we go to harveys and pay in for a load of expensive rotten pints taking a chance on the place being busy or will we stay here for decently priced pints? its a no brainer. so ur competition statement is bs, because a pub isnt next to them doesnt make them competition, they have priced themselves out of the market and i predict they will knock the door charge in next 2-3 weeks


    failing that and if they do stick to it i personally do hope they go out of business and lose their custom, anyone that was ever a "regular" down there should boycott the place because i take it as an insult and more or less says we dont want your business anymore. it was once a decent pub which is now being over run and hasnt moved with the times the same ould music and djing no variation bar aslan (who hoo)

    bit of a rant but i am mightily peeved over this and i think anyone that enjoys a few pints in waterford should be too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭Musicman2000


    Merlante,Talk scene, Ireland is in a recession people barely have the money to be going out let alone be screwed by a cover charge and over priced drinks, the way you are talking about Harvey’s it’s the Ritz. The only thing going for it id the beer garden.

    I’m from Waterford but im working in clubs in the UK and the majority either dropped the door charge to get customers in or either ran promos. And come on a ten euro charge make it exclusive, Its Waterford your in. and according to a person I know working there, it is very quiet on a Friday night, as I said in a previous post looks like the might get some competion from Revolution when their new area opens up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭gscully


    Merlante, if Harvey's is so popular, the best of it's type, how come NOBODY goes there before 11pm? Most people I know go there purely because it's a late bar with current music, as opposed to Muldoons with it's old music.

    It would appear that the idea was to milk the latecomers for all they're worth. As we all know, they already increase their drink prices at 11pm, so effectively, they're double-taxing people who go there after 11pm - and that is most of their clientele.

    Muldoons might be a poor alternative to some people (Masons too), but it is now the cheaper alternative and once more people cotton on to that fact, there will be more and more people frequenting these places and suddenly, they will be the places to be once again.

    If Harveys want to get more money in, the way to attract more people before 11pm is to run some promotions, have happy-hours etc... not to try and bully people into going there before 11pm.

    In future, I will think twice before going there. I might venture up to the door and see if it is free entry. If they're charging, I'm not paying. I will not change the habits of a lifetime and go there early just because it'll be free entry...unless they make it worth my while, make it an attraction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Pubs, late bars and clubs in Dublin are offering three quid drinks and free in.

    And Harvey's? Exclusive? My arse.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,763 Mod ✭✭✭✭ToxicPaddy


    Harveys is far from exclusive.. as others have said, its a late bar with a dancefloor and thats it.. nothing more.. They over charge for drink and do basically everything on the cheap.. I rarely go there and when I do, its the last option, but with a €10 charge on the door, I wont be going there again..

    The owners are hardly model businessmen in the area and in the years I worked in the bar trade I've seen them c*ck up again and again.. They are in it for the quick buck to pay for their expensive toys.. nothing more..

    I wouldnt be surprised when they realise that its going to turn more away than it attracts and when profits start dropping, that door charge so do a quick vanishing trick.. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭gscully


    ToxicPaddy wrote: »
    Harveys is far from exclusive.. as others have said, its a late bar with a dancefloor and thats it.. nothing more.. They over charge for drink and do basically everything on the cheap.. I rarely go there and when I do, its the last option, but with a €10 charge on the door, I wont be going there again..

    The owners are hardly model businessmen in the area and in the years I worked in the bar trade I've seen them c*ck up again and again.. They are in it for the quick buck to pay for their expensive toys.. nothing more..

    I wouldnt be surprised when they realise that its going to turn more away than it attracts and when profits start dropping, that door charge so do a quick vanishing trick.. :rolleyes:

    I imagine sooner rather than later, that cover charge will go up in smoke!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭jimbojazz


    I stand to be corrected but was speaking to a mate of mine who goes in there a good bit and he was under the impression that it was only a one off thing as there were 2 lads from Coronation St in there on the Saturday night.

    Have to say i hate the place myself especially after an incident I witnessed there one night with their bouncers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,524 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    Paying for the privilege of being fleeced for drink? No thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭gscully


    jimbojazz wrote: »
    I stand to be corrected but was speaking to a mate of mine who goes in there a good bit and he was under the impression that it was only a one off thing as there were 2 lads from Coronation St in there on the Saturday night.

    Have to say i hate the place myself especially after an incident I witnessed there one night with their bouncers

    The doorman told me it was a new thing they started that night.

    Two lads from Coronation Street? So what... They never charge when Dermo from Fair City is in there! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭merlante


    gscully wrote: »
    Merlante, if Harvey's is so popular, the best of it's type, how come NOBODY goes there before 11pm? Most people I know go there purely because it's a late bar with current music, as opposed to Muldoons with it's old music.

    Why would you want to go in there before 11pm, it's a late pub/club?

    For the 26 plus VAT, as someone said, it is the venue of choice in the city centre. Muldoons needs an overhaul, Ruby's Lounge only fits about 10 people comfortably. Everywhere else will be objected to on the basis that it's full of kids, too small, or plays a type of music that rubs a few members of most groups up the wrong way. Harvey's is pretty much the only place where the older crowd, with a high percentage comprising teachers, nurses, people working in WIT, and generally speaking earning a few quid, who will probably pay the tenner, will go. Muldoons coming in a distant second. Of course lots of other people go there, and lots of people will boycott it now. But I reckon it will still do well.

    Whenever a crowd of people around my age (30) are heading out, the venue always ends up being Harvey's. It's the in place. That's if they ever leave the Dunmore rd. in the first place. When I was 17 it was 7 pounds on the door in most places. That's probably around 15 euro in todays money. People will pay in if the feel the effort has been made on the inside and/or they reckon the talent will be worth it. The older crowd would pay to keep the kids out, just like electric picnic, although granted the older crowd wouldn't be quite enough to keep Harvey's going.

    Like I said, the proof will be in the pudding. No use telling me I'm full of crap, have a bit of patience and we'll find out. They might just get sick of people complaining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭Junior


    merlante wrote: »
    When I was 17 it was 7 pounds on the door in most places. That's probably around 15 euro in todays money.

    I remember when it used be a Fiver into Preachers back in the early 90's ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭tonc76


    Junior wrote: »
    I remember when it used be a Fiver into Preachers back in the early 90's ..

    You could grease a palm and get into the bridge for £2 in the early 90's too :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭daftdave


    Junior wrote: »
    I remember when it used be a Fiver into Preachers back in the early 90's ..

    used to be a fiver into the roxy in the 90's as well , and you'd get a dinner voucher with it also !!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭anplaya


    merlante wrote: »
    Well, you're entitled to your opinion. In my opinion, the knacker kip that is the Wacky Apple makes Harvey's look like the Ritz, but that's opinions for ye.

    The point is that Harvey's at the weekend is extremely popular. There is no doubting this. Putting a tenner on the door will probably turn out to make them a lot of money. A tenner is two drinks. That's about 50% more than I'd say the average person drinks in there. Your economic analysis is too simplistic and assumes a competitive market. Harvey's has poor competition, therefore people will pay for the better product. Also, as I said, there is a possibility that if all skint people and undesirables are kept out and the people who pay in feel more special, then the numbers could increase. It's human psychology. The proof will be in the pudding.

    If Harvey's were struggling with poor demand, then I'd say drop the prices, but at the moment they are oversubscribed if anything.

    a tenner is two drinks?not in harveys it aint after 11,costs 5.45 for a pint if i remember correctly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭magick


    anplaya wrote: »
    a tenner is two drinks?not in harveys it aint after 11,costs 5.45 for a pint if i remember correctly.

    im sorry i had to read that again 5.45 for a pint?!

    jaysus its nearly as expensive as the bar @ the Westin in Dublin!

    no wait actually ......... its more!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭anplaya


    magick wrote: »
    im sorry i had to read that again 5.45 for a pint?!

    jaysus its nearly as expensive as the bar @ the Westin in Dublin!

    no wait actually ......... its more!

    was only just after takin out money at the atm,had no change on me at all,went to the bar and ordered 2 drinks ,had a tenner in me hand and yer one behind the bar goes to me 10.90 .i was like what?had to hand her over a bigger note.i remember tellin the lads and they were like fcuks sake


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭ex_infantry man


    anplaya wrote: »
    a tenner is two drinks?not in harveys it aint after 11,costs 5.45 for a pint if i remember correctly.
    and if ya get fed up of the dirty stinking pint and change to double vodka and red bull it comes in at over 16 yoyo,s, have,nt been there in a while tend to just go on our usuall spots like rev,s masons hop across the road to muldoons and head upstairs through muldoons to oxygen!! i,m 25 and i come across alot of my age and older in oxygen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭anplaya


    and if ya get fed up of the dirty stinking pint and change to double vodka and red bull it comes in at over 16 yoyo,s, have,nt been there in a while tend to just go on our usuall spots like rev,s masons hop across the road to muldoons and head upstairs through muldoons to oxygen!! i,m 25 and i come across alot of my age and older in oxygen


    yeah lot of fellas i know tend to keep away from harveys cause of the way they put the pints up,theyd rather head to oxygen or muldoons.cant understand why,muldoons has to be the worst place ever for gettin a pint,watered down and tastes like piss(not that id know:eek:) and it only costs 25 cent less than harveys lol and oxygen is full of wannabe gansta rappers and hardmen looking for fights ,rubys is full of secondary school kids who think their extras in The Hills lol load of bollix lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭magick


    and if ya get fed up of the dirty stinking pint and change to double vodka and red bull it comes in at over 16 yoyo,s, have,nt been there in a while tend to just go on our usuall spots like rev,s masons hop across the road to muldoons and head upstairs through muldoons to oxygen!! i,m 25 and i come across alot of my age and older in oxygen

    When reading about prices like this its no surprise ppl stay at home and have house partys, price for drink is too expensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭merlante


    anplaya wrote: »
    yeah lot of fellas i know tend to keep away from harveys cause of the way they put the pints up,theyd rather head to oxygen or muldoons.cant understand why,muldoons has to be the worst place ever for gettin a pint,watered down and tastes like piss(not that id know:eek:) and it only costs 25 cent less than harveys lol and oxygen is full of wannabe gansta rappers and hardmen looking for fights ,rubys is full of secondary school kids who think their extras in The Hills lol load of bollix lol

    Well, if you've been drinking all night and hit the club after 12, and taking into account that many of us are past the self-destruction by drink phase of their lives, people might only have 3 drinks in the late place. If it was a 50 cent per drink more in a good place than a bad place, then that means 1.50 more for the pleasure (not including door charges!). Anybody in their right mind would pay the 1.50 rather than suffer in a place they don't like.

    Since we're giving statistically irrelevant anecdotes, my experience of Oxygen is the same: dodgy and dangerous. When I go into Muldoons I forget there's a stairs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭merlante


    magick wrote: »
    When reading about prices like this its no surprise ppl stay at home and have house partys, price for drink is too expensive.

    Some people do that. A lot of people don't. Most of the cost of drink is tax remember. That actually means that those of us who go out on the town are actually paying for facilities for those who don't. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    anplaya wrote: »
    yeah lot of fellas i know tend to keep away from harveys cause of the way they put the pints up,theyd rather head to oxygen or muldoons.cant understand why,muldoons has to be the worst place ever for gettin a pint,watered down and tastes like piss(not that id know:eek:) and it only costs 25 cent less than harveys lol and oxygen is full of wannabe gansta rappers and hardmen looking for fights ,rubys is full of secondary school kids who think their extras in The Hills lol load of bollix lol

    Sorry, what? And for the millionth time in this forum, if you get a ****-tasting pint its Diageo, Heineken or whoever you should be complaining to. They're responsible for all cleaning and maintenance of the beer lines and equipment. This applies to pretty much every pub in town. By all means hand it back and complain but there's no point in blaming the premises.


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