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Macbeth

  • 31-05-2009 4:50pm
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    What is ment by Kingship? if the q comes up what do i write about?


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  • Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The four kings throughout the story, and what each one represents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Swizz


    Pat2107 wrote: »
    What is ment by Kingship? if the q comes up what do i write about?


    Good kings, bad kngs, use and abuse of power. The whole play is about Kingship!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭MrPirate


    Pat2107 wrote: »
    What is ment by Kingship? if the q comes up what do i write about?
    Elvis and Burger King.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    The four kings throughout the story, and what each one represents.

    Five Kings infact ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭Pala!


    Who are the 5 kings? Just for confirmation. ^_^

    Also can someone please explain the "Divine Right of Kings" or whatever that is called. I know it means that they are chosen by God or something like that.

    Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    Pala! wrote: »
    Who are the 5 kings? Just for confirmation. ^_^

    Also can someone please explain the "Divine Right of Kings" or whatever that is called. I know it means that they are chosen by God or something like that.

    Thanks.

    Duncan,Macbeth,Malcolm,Edward and Sveno.

    They are Gods representative on earth when Macbeth obtains the crown he is not God's chosen subject and so Scotland is engulfed by night. Only when Malcolm defeats Macbeth and obtains the crown does light finely conquer darkness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,534 ✭✭✭Dman001


    Well you have Macbeth, Duncan, King Edward, Macduff but I'm not sure on the fifth.

    Edit: D'oh, beaten to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭Killaqueen!!!


    Macduff isnt a king is he?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭phic


    Stev_o wrote: »
    Duncan,Macbeth,Malcolm,Edward and Sveno.

    I'm very worried I have to ask this but um...who's Sveno??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭leesmom


    im betting kingship isnt going to come up.....i will burst into tears on thursday if it does!!!!!!!!:p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭leesmom


    sveno is the norwegian king who the thane of cawdor and macdownwald helped against duncan at the start and no macduff isnt a king


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭Killaqueen!!!


    phic wrote: »
    I'm very worried I have to ask this but um...who's Sveno??

    He's the King that's invading Scotland at the very beginning. Macbeth and Banquo are fighting against his forces. But you'd only need to mention him like once in an essay on Kingship because he's not in it after that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭Killaqueen!!!


    I dunno why people are talkin bout kingship so much though. Is it a set theme on the course or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭phic


    He's the King that's invading Scotland at the very beginning. Macbeth and Banquo are fighting against his forces. But you'd only need to mention him like once in an essay on Kingship because he's not in it after that.

    Ah right! Thanks! I didn't realise he was named...theres not much to say about him past that he tried to invade Scotland though is there? btw Kingship came up as a question before so I suppose thats why people are talking about it coming up again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭leesmom


    look at the marking scheme for the 2007 macb question, power its use and abuse its pretty much a kingship question in disguise, i really do not think it will be on the paper.. well i am hoping not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    leesmom wrote: »
    look at the marking scheme for the 2007 macb question, power its use and abuse its pretty much a kingship question in disguise, i really do not think it will be on the paper.. well i am hoping not

    Considering Cian hardly discussed it all this year id agree hope it doesn't come up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Extrasupervery


    Sveno...who the fudge is that?! Suuurely we don't have to talk about him...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    Sveno...who the fudge is that?! Suuurely we don't have to talk about him...

    You don;t have to but im clearly looking for easy brown nosed marks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Stev_o wrote: »
    You don;t have to but im clearly looking for easy brown nosed marks.
    GTFO!

    Duncan - Good but flawed
    Macbeth - Evil Tyrant
    Malcolm - Good and learnt from mistakes of his father
    Edward - God like King

    I dunno if I'll do this question, a lot of new quotes to learn. But it is likely hmmm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    I just wish it was this Sveno :(

    sveno.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭LivingDeadGirl


    Its not that likely as a question is it? As someone said already, power came up the last time. Wouldn't evil/the supernatural/appearance vs. reality be more likely as the theme question?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭phic


    The thing I hate about Macbeth, and the reason it's gonna screw up my English grade, is that you can't really predict whats gonna come up! I've tried and I really dont think there's a pattern!! you just have to know the play, it's characters and its themes very well! not that I do, but you know, you should!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭Des23


    Kingship came up explicitly in 95 I think aswell, I don't see why they would bring it up 3ish times in 12 years when there are so many other themes aswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭LivingDeadGirl


    Freaking out now! :( Taking down the kingship essay someone linked to, hopefully some of it will sink in......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭Martinog


    I think i'll just become a bum, as i have done absolutely nothing until 2 days ago,

    This calls for crazy serial killer guy
    loldgtp.th.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭haloauto


    So, how's everyone studying for Macbeth?
    I'm just learning of about 15 quotes and reading over exam topic essays in my keynotes book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭english4490


    what questions are people covering for macbeth?? only starting now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭BLARG


    Freaking out now! :( Taking down the kingship essay someone linked to, hopefully some of it will sink in......

    link?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭manutd4life


    what we were taught about kingship is you describe everyone that is linked to kingship if you know what i mean.macbeth,duncan,malcolm,banquo,fleance,donalbain,edward and i'm sure there is one or 2 more


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33


    what questions are people covering for macbeth?? only starting now!

    lots of people starting to talk about banquo and his role in the play


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Beau x1


    My way to learn Macbeth is to just know 40/50 or so of the main quotes and then you're grand. Once you know the main quotes you can just waffle on about whatever the question is asking you to go on about and then stick the quotes in to support your answer and voila.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,739 ✭✭✭Jello


    Beau x1 wrote: »
    My way to learn Macbeth is to just know 40/50 or so of the main quotes and then you're grand. Once you know the main quotes you can just waffle on about whatever the question is asking you to go on about and then stick the quotes in to support your answer and voila.

    40/50? :eek:

    I'm finding it hard enough to learn 4/5!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭snazzy


    Lads, it won't come up because the theme of power [aka kingship] came up last year so everyone breath.

    I myself reckon it shall be the witches/supernatural or deception.
    I've a sneaky feeling about Banquo/Macduff but I'm hoping they won't come up as there will be hardly anything in the essay!

    I'm learning as many quotes as I can and then the idea of images and motifs because they can be used in any essay to reflect the question asked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Beau x1


    The way to do it is to get someone articulate to say them for you, and then repeat them to the person until you get them perfect. Works really well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭christina_x


    snazzy wrote: »
    Lads, it won't come up because the theme of power [aka kingship] came up last year so everyone breath.

    I myself reckon it shall be the witches/supernatural or deception.
    I've a sneaky feeling about Banquo/Macduff but I'm hoping they won't come up as there will be hardly anything in the essay!

    I'm learning as many quotes as I can and then the idea of images and motifs because they can be used in any essay to reflect the question asked.

    yeah im hoping for supernatural or deception aswell!
    obstacles was up in the mocks and that was an ok one to do!
    my teacher didnt go into depth with us the character of banquo at all..but he did talk about kingship alot...

    if banquo does happen to come up, what can i write about because atm im looking at 1/2 a page!:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33



    if banquo does happen to come up, what can i write about because atm im looking at 1/2 a page!:(


    :confused::confused::confused: His role in the play. How banquo moves the plot along. How his murder served to accelerate macbeths downfall. How he added drama to the banquet scene :confused::confused::confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭sock puppet


    pathway33 wrote: »
    :confused::confused::confused: His role in the play. How banquo moves the plot along. How his murder served to accelerate macbeths downfall. How he added drama to the banquet scene :confused::confused::confused:

    You could also get a question on his moral decline.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭aine-maire


    You could also get a question on his moral decline.

    Yeah,but I think that came up before though..:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭sock puppet


    aine-maire wrote: »
    Yeah,but I think that came up before though..:)

    In 1987 wasn't it? Would it be less likely to come up considering it's been 22 years since it was asked?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭aine-maire


    In 1987 wasn't it? Would it be less likely to come up considering it's been 22 years since it was asked?

    Yeah I think so,but like Macbeth hasn't been on that many years in the meantime has it?
    Like there's sooo many things they could ask that it'd be weird to ask the same question...

    I think that a theme or imagery is going to come up, or maybe something about Lady Macbeth and Macbeth's relationship..

    Tbh, I'm not learning any essays or notes or anything, I'm just learning the play and quotes really well and writing whatever I think about the question...hopefully it'll work!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    I would ADORE a general "Shakespeare creates a dramatic atmosphere through his use of imagery. Discuss" Honeslty I think I'd cheer right there in my seat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33


    Discuss the dramatisation of conscience and ambition in Macbeth

    Although Lady Macbeth strives to be unsexed, she nevertheless remains incapable of truly separating herself from her own femininity and is likewise incapable of assuming the horrific masculine role to which she aspires.” Discuss this view.

    “In Macbeth the focus is so radically upon the tragic hero that our strongest sense of good comes not from the community but from the one man who has given himself up to evil.” Discuss this view.

    Write an essay on the connections between gender and power in Macbeth

    ‘Although Macbeth can be seen to execute his own fate in the murder of Duncan, he is, nevertheless, the victim of the ‘instruments of darkness’, those unnatural female forces which, from the outset, shape his destiny.’ Discuss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,227 ✭✭✭awhir


    how many marks would u loose in the macbeth question if u dont include any quotes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭BLARG


    awhir wrote: »
    how many marks would u loose in the macbeth question if u dont include any quotes?

    a fair amount I'd say. The questions usually (always?) say "in reference to your text".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,227 ✭✭✭awhir


    hmm better try and learn some so :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Swizz


    awhir wrote: »
    how many marks would u loose in the macbeth question if u dont include any quotes?

    If you dont back up a statement then its baaaadd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 Garf


    awhir wrote: »
    how many marks would u loose in the macbeth question if u dont include any quotes?

    Theoretically, none (if the question doesn't specify for quotation).

    "Reference to the text" doesn't necessary mean quotation, although quotation is a subset of reference to the text.

    Alternative means to refer to the text would be to write very specific narration of what happened, where and when, in the text; however, quotation is the ultimate form of reference to the text, and it impresses examiners (if the quotes are relevant).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭Power-surge


    I hope Banquo, evil or Deception come up. Christ, if Macduff and Malcolm come up :O ahhhhh


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