This dog needs a life..

walshb

As far as I am concerned, a life sentence is the ONLY applicable
sentence for this animal. Twice now he has been convicted of a heinous crime.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0528/mcginleys.html

Rented Mule

walshb wrote: »

As far as I am concerned, a life sentence is the ONLY applicable
sentence for this animal. Twice now he has been convicted of a heinous crime.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0528/mcginleys.html

Castration, then lock him away for the rest of his life.

If that fails, then give him to the Christian Brothers.

Mossy Monk

A life sentence doesn't mean life so I say lock the bastard up for 100 years

Holsten

Lock him up so he dies in prison.

Will never happen though, max he'll get will once again be some micky mouse sentence of like 5 years.

walshb

Mossy Monk wrote: »

A life sentence doesn't mean life so I say lock the bastard up for 100 years

Mossy, in a perfect world I would agree, but considering that life is the
sentence handed down here, it is the best we can expect!

Life doesn't always mean life as we all know, but it's the best of a bad lot.

MagicMarker

After today's guilty verdict Mr Justice George Bermingham directed that McGinley be registered as a sex offender.

Why the fúck is he only being registered now?

walshb

MagicMarker wrote: »

Why the fúck is he only being registered now?

It gets sicker!

Only copped that now Magic!

togster

Bullet ftw

Karoma

Rabble!

Mrmoe

Death penalty is the only solution

minxie

MagicMarker wrote: »

Why the fúck is he only being registered now?

Thats a disgrace

Noopti

Calling him a dog is insulting to dogs.

He is a nothing, just a collection of organic matter that somehow resembles a human. Lock him up forever.

humanji

So who else read the OP thinking it would be about some crazy country sentencing an actual dog to life in prison?

mickos

If it was my granny he had done that to I wouldn't be waiting for the courts to give some piss assed sentence, I'd happilly do life myself to put an end to that fcuker!

az2wp0sye65487

Just sending someone like that to prison is as good as letting them off the hook IMO.

There should be more severe physical & mental punishments in place for sickos like that, and eventually a death sentance.

He should be castrated first. Possibly then get raped himself, by other scum who are also locked up.

Then comes the amputation of limbs / crippling. He could have his ankles permanently broken to immobilise him. Then his fingers could all be amputated, so he still has hands but isn't able to use them for anything. This would lead to great depression and self-loathing.

The next step is the mental torture. Play mind games to fcuk his head up.

After a couple of years of torture / buggary / punishment he should be put down, so as not to cost the taxpayer any more money to house him.

Kintarō Hattori

Rayne Faint Stoutness wrote: »

Just sending someone like that to prison is as good as letting them off the hook IMO.

There should be more severe physical & mental punishments in place for sickos like that, and eventually a death sentance.

He should be castrated first. Possibly then get raped himself, by other scum who are also locked up.

Then comes the amputation of limbs / crippling. He could have his ankles permanently broken to immobilise him. Then his fingers could all be amputated, so he still has hands but isn't able to use them for anything. This would lead to great depression and self-loathing.

The next step is the mental torture. Play mind games to fcuk his head up.

After a couple of years of torture / buggary / punishment he should be put down, so as not to cost the taxpayer any more money to house him.

That's quite sadistic. I don't think you have the right to call yourself human if you were to do that to him, you'd be more of an animal- like him. We are supposed to be better than that. He should be locked away in solitary for life.

CyanRain

humanji wrote: »

So who else read the OP thinking it would be about some crazy country sentencing an actual dog to life in prison?

Me. Was thinking Korea

SoWatchaWant

walshb wrote: »

As far as I am concerned, a life sentence is the ONLY applicable
sentence for this animal. Twice now he has been convicted of a heinous crime.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0528/mcginleys.html

Ah walshb, you seem to be loving the reading up on dirty criminals lately. I find it adds to my general stress level, but that's just me.

EDIT: OMFG, what a ****. Hanging's too good for him.

walshb

His sentencing is in July. I will keep an eye out for this one and going
on our track record and pissy sentencing, I am betting 12-15 years he will get.
That means he will serve 9-11 with "good behaviour."

I see his mother was outside the court ranting and raving claiming his innocence and that
he was set up by the cops. She also claimed his involvement in the C case
was a set up:rolleyes:

Some mother. I know it's hard for mothers to see any badness in their
offspring, but this is beyond so called "love."

Mary D

If it was my mother or granny he done that to, I'd pay someone to give him a very slow painful death, scum like him doesn't deserve to live. You'd always have it in the back of your head when he gets out in 10-12 years that he'll do it again.

walshb

SoWatchaWant wrote: »

Ah walshb, you seem to be loving the reading up on dirty criminals lately. I find it adds to my general stress level, but that's just me.

EDIT: OMFG, what a ****. Hanging's too good for him.

I know, I think I should refrain from it as it irritates me so
much and then when sentence is passed down, it adds
insult to injury.

God forbid if ever a serious and nasty
crime befell my family, I really think I would have to administer
my own justice. I have zero faith in the justice system
handing down proper and fair sentences to these animals!

Sharpshooter

The irony here is that if a dog bites someone it is put down because the general feeling is if it does it once it will do it again.

But that animal was actually given a chance to do it again.
The law is indeed an ass.
/no offence to ass lovers;)

omyatari

firesquad.

this is a definately a case where he should be gone for the rest of his life.. his sick perversions can't be rehabilitated and he will guaranteed rape another woman on release.

how can society let this happen?

toiletduck

Will be interesting to see what kind of sentence he gets...

Rayne Faint Stoutness wrote: »

Just sending someone like that to prison is as good as letting them off the hook IMO.

There should be more severe physical & mental punishments in place for sickos like that, and eventually a death sentance.

He should be castrated first. Possibly then get raped himself, by other scum who are also locked up.

Then comes the amputation of limbs / crippling. He could have his ankles permanently broken to immobilise him. Then his fingers could all be amputated, so he still has hands but isn't able to use them for anything. This would lead to great depression and self-loathing.

The next step is the mental torture. Play mind games to fcuk his head up.

After a couple of years of torture / buggary / punishment he should be put down, so as not to cost the taxpayer any more money to house him.

Jesus Christ... How on Earth could a State/people honestly condemn what that fu(ker did if it was engaged in the above?

az2wp0sye65487

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

That's quite sadistic. I don't think you have the right to call yourself human if you were to do that to him, you'd be more of an animal- like him. We are supposed to be better than that. He should be locked away in solitary for life.

It is quite sadistic, but thats the point.

If this was the standard punishment for a crime like this, and it was well publicised; you can bet there would be a sharp decrease in the amount of these crimes taking place. There would therefore be a very low amount of this punishment being carried out.

Prevention is better than cure, and all that jazz.

Wagon

I voted life. But i think ive got a good idea that will appeal to everyone:

Solitary. 23 hours solitary a day for the rest of his life. It's like being dead, but it isn't so the cúnt still has to sit through his punishment.

az2wp0sye65487

toiletduck wrote: »

Will be interesting to see what kind of sentence he gets...




Jesus Christ... How on Earth could a State/people honestly condemn what that fu(ker did if it was engaged in the above?

The point I'm trying to make is that if the punishment is so severe, then people actually will think twice before committing the crime.

At the moment, people commit crimes without hesitation because they have no fear of what may happen to them. Cos they know they'll likely get off; or else get a pi**y sentance - which is insulting to both the victim and society.

dubire

my honest opinion is they should be all branded on the forehead - burnt into their skin what they have done, "RAPIST" "PEDO" etc...... then castrated! So that everyone can see what they have done for the rest of their lives - or simple option is Death Penalty....

toiletduck

Rayne Faint Stoutness wrote: »

The point I'm trying to make is that if the punishment is so severe, then people actually will think twice before committing the crime.

At the moment, people commit crimes without hesitation because they have no fear of what may happen to them. Cos they know they'll likely get off; or else get a pi**y sentance - which is insulting to both the victim and society.

I just think that while most of the lynch-'em mob are always belting on about horrific sadism above and how we should be doing it today, most of them wouldn't actually want to live in a country/society where the State executes, tortures physically and mentally, and uses rape as part of a punishment for eh rape.

How many people will need to be employed in the torture section of the Civil Service? I imagine they'll be a-ok in a job like that.

walshb

I know the reality and it sickens me. These scum go to prison and have a fairly cozy life with the rest of the rapists. They have access to education, tv, exercise equipment and meals served every day. Prison time in Ireland is not a sentence really. Okay, it restricts ones movements, but apart from that, what is bad about it?

Kess73

The very least he should get is life and be put into the open population and not in a protected wing where his type normally get placed.


That way he would be at the mercy of the main population, and if they decided to make him suffer, well so be it. The 13yo girl and the 86 yo woman have had their lives ruined, and so should he.


The early release system makes a total joke of the legal system. He was given 12 years for what he did to the little girl, if he had been made serve the full sentence, then he would not have been out at the time he attacked that poor old woman.


Repeat offenders like him really do make me wonder if a death sentence should be in place for extreme re offenders. One injection and he, and others like him, would never cause such terror again.

walshb

Kess73 wrote: »

Repeat offenders like him really do make me wonder if a death sentence should be in place for extreme re offenders. One injection and he, and others like him, would never cause such terror again.

Never mind even the death sentence, the absolute LIFE means he and others will
not be able to harm again!

You offend once and the chances are that you will
offend again, at least in the case of sex offenders. It's a "disease" and the urge is so so
great.

These people cannot help themselves, but that is of little consolation
to their victims; so lock up forever is the only solution to his likes!

johnnyskeleton

MagicMarker wrote: »

Why the fúck is he only being registered now?

Because being registered as a convicted sex offender prior to actually being convicted is a bit prejudicial.

Naos

Rayne Faint Stoutness wrote: »

Just sending someone like that to prison is as good as letting them off the hook IMO.

There should be more severe physical & mental punishments in place for sickos like that, and eventually a death sentance.

He should be castrated first. Possibly then get raped himself, by other scum who are also locked up.

Then comes the amputation of limbs / crippling. He could have his ankles permanently broken to immobilise him. Then his fingers could all be amputated, so he still has hands but isn't able to use them for anything. This would lead to great depression and self-loathing.

The next step is the mental torture. Play mind games to fcuk his head up.

After a couple of years of torture / buggary / punishment he should be put down, so as not to cost the taxpayer any more money to house him.

The funniest thing - in a non funny way - to these threads are these responses.

You forgot the "tearing off his fingernails with a rusty pliars, pouring salt on them and then dipping them in acid."

And that fingerless stump would make for a mean pestle, just needs the mortar.

Professey Chin

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

Because being registered as a convicted sex offender prior to actually being convicted is a bit prejudicial.

But wasnt he convicted for raping the girl and shouldve been on it cause of that?

Professey Chin

Mad idea. You know the way prisoners do work to earn money in there? Anyone else think they should be made work as usual but then all the money they earn gets taken as rent?

johnnyskeleton

walshb wrote: »

His sentencing is in July. I will keep an eye out for this one and going
on our track record and pissy sentencing, I am betting 12-15 years he will get.
That means he will serve 9-11 with "good behaviour."

What exactly do you want? Do you want some form of divine retribution which will restore peace and harmony to the world? 12-15 years is a long time to spend in prison.

It really annoys me when people unduly criticise sentences, but criticising the sentence before its passed is a new one. If he does get life, I'm sure you won't be here posting "Well done that judge, gave him the appropriate sentence alright" and the like.

More like, if he gets life you will still come onto boards and decry the injustice of our system and the judge's desire to be kind to the criminals because as we all know judges are detached from reality and/or are in cahoots with the criminals and ignore the victims.

walshb

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

Mad idea. You know the way prison workers do work to earn money in there? Anyone else think they should be made work as usual but then all the money they earn gets taken as rent?

And a lot are taught a trade inside. There are young folks on the outside who
cannot get placement for a trade, but if you're a scumbag prisoner, this is available
to you and all the education you want, all paid for by the taxpayer, some whom are the actual victims of crime. It's a fine world we live in:rolleyes:

General Zod

MagicMarker wrote: »

Why the fúck is he only being registered now?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the C case one of those that affected the law regarding convictions surrounding the age of consent? would the verdict and the repurcussions of ther case being transferred to the supreme court have bearing on wether he had to be registered?

johnnyskeleton

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

But wasnt he convicted for raping the girl and shouldve been on it cause of that?

There's a separate requirement for each conviction, and the length of time it lasts depends on the length of sentence.

In respect of the previous conviction, he would have been subject to the requirements of the Sex Offenders Act in the middle of his sentence.

Squiggle

"McGinley was jailed for 12 years in 1998 for raping a 13-year-old girl who was at the centre of the Supreme court action on abortion known as the C case."

So he should have been kept in jail until 2010 then. It should be take as a given for any jail term that the offender behaves in prison as the sentence is served ie no early release - add to the prison term for bad behaviour with no privileges. There are many other examples out there where offenders have been released early for good behaviour and then they reoffend. The system is a fúckin joke imo. :mad:

johnnyskeleton

Rayne Faint Stoutness wrote: »

It is quite sadistic, but thats the point.

If this was the standard punishment for a crime like this, and it was well publicised; you can bet there would be a sharp decrease in the amount of these crimes taking place. There would therefore be a very low amount of this punishment being carried out.

Prevention is better than cure, and all that jazz.

The idea that harsher sentences deter crime are largely untrue. This is because when most crimes are committed the person either doesn't think of the consequences or else doesn't think that they will be caught. In either event, they will not be thinking about the punishment on conviction.

Professey Chin

General Zod wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the C case one of those that affected the law regarding convictions surrounding the age of consent? would the verdict and the repurcussions of ther case being transferred to the supreme court have bearing on wether he had to be registered?

I think I understand what youre saying but its confused me.
And anyway, if a 17 year old can be put on them there things for having sex with their 16 yo girlfriend* shouldnt this yolk have been on it no matter what

*(I did read about a case like this before didnt I?)

johnnyskeleton

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

I think I understand what youre saying but its confused me.
And anyway, if a 17 year old can be put on them there things for having sex with their 16 yo girlfriend* shouldnt this yolk have been on it no matter what

*(I did read about a case like this before didnt I?)

No you didn't. There could have been a conviction and sentence in that case, but he wouldn't have been subject to registration under the sex offenders act by virute of s3(10) of the 2006 Act.

walshb

The dog was convicted of the crime regarding the girl. He had his day in court and used any defence he could, including the, "I didn't know she was 13."

He should have been registered as a sex offender after this conviction!

enry

I would not leave McGinley alone with my dog. this guy should be taken out and shot. A boy like this does not change, I say he is better off dead and society in general is better off without him in it.

Professey Chin

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

No you didn't. There could have been a conviction and sentence in that case, but he wouldn't have been subject to registration under the sex offenders act by virute of s3(10) of the 2006 Act.

Well then I made it up in my head and under the power of AH law its now fact

johnnyskeleton

walshb wrote: »

The dog was convicted of the crime regarding the girl. He had his day in court and used any defence he could, including the, "I didn't know she was 13."

He should have been registered as a sex offender after this conviction!

No he shouldn't because at the time of conviction (1998) there was no requirement to be registered as a sex offender as the legislation came in in 2001. So unless the judge was able to predict the future, why should he have registered him as a sex offender?

walshb

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

The idea that harsher sentences deter crime are largely untrue. This is because when most crimes are committed the person either doesn't think of the consequences or else doesn't think that they will be caught. In either event, they will not be thinking about the punishment on conviction.

I disagree to some extent. It has to have some impact on a man or woman deciding
to commit a crime. Hey, take drug dealing and smuggling. If you were asked what country to be caught smuggling drugs into, what would you choose? I would choose Ireland over some other countries. No way in hell would I risk smuggling drugs to Thailand or Turkey for example.


Same applies to all crime. If the sentences are too low for certain crimes, it adds to the chance that the person will take the risk. It's like, "ah well, I will only get 5 years and I will be out
in 3." Now, if it was "ah well, I will only get 20 years, and i will be out in 15," this has to have some impact!

johnnyskeleton

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

Well then I made it up in my head and under the power of AH law its now fact

Just as long as that's clear...back to the hang 'em and damn 'em.