Casuals in XGC next weekend?

Dreddybajs

Hey, just wondering though there's not a tournament on in XGC next week would people be interested in showing up and renting a couple of consoles for an afternoon to play some casual matches? Few of the lads who hung around after the last tourney seemed interested.

Leprekaun

That would be great. Not sure about myself as I dread the 8 hour journey there and back but I'll think about it.

K.O.Kiki

Assuming I can make take the day for it, this suits me perfectly.
Maybe I can even improve my scrub Abel play

Leprekaun

Oh right! You're the Abel dude. Cool

Doctor DooM

I'll be back from Germany late on Friday. Depending on how I feel I might show.

Jim

Missed the last tounry's due to work/being away. Think I'm free this saturday so might show up in the afternoon.

K.O.Kiki

I'm gonna hang around from 2/3 til 6pm-ish, if anyone's interested.

Dreddybajs

Yeah, I'll drop in for a few hours as well - gotta head to a barbeque though, so dunno when I'll have to leave.

Leprekaun

I might head down but wouldn't be there till about 3 or 4 maybe. The four hour journey is becoming more and more dreadful

Doctor DooM

I'm exhausted but will try and stick my head in if I hit town.

Dreddybajs

Unless anyone posts here saying they'll be in earlier than 2, that's around when I'll drop in.

edit: and Leprekaun, at this stage it might just be me and Kiki showing up if the others who posted don't head in - probably not worth a 4 hour drive! You're welcome to come of course, just don't want you to make that huge journey and for it to only be three of us.

Leprekaun

Yeah, I guess I didn't go. I'm really sore so I decided not. Have fun lads

Leprekaun

So who whooped ass then?

K.O.Kiki

Dreddybajs taught me that to whoop ass, I have to switch from Abel... to Blanka :eek:

So I will try that out.

Also, Honda Buttstomp > Lariat

Leprekaun

Well, tbh, I was surprised when I found you using Abel. I know every fighter is well balanced but Abel heavily relies on close range so I think if someone is to use a close range fighter, best man for that is Zangief + the fact he has much better recovery times than Abel. If you fail to connect a special with Abel, the FDB+P throw for example, you're in trouble. I know Abel has mixup over Zangief and generally moves quicker but he is much easier to read in comparison to Zangief.

Each to his own of course, I may switch to Zangief myself as most of my best play with Ryu is close range as I'm pretty good for rushdown.

K.O.Kiki

I dunno, you could always take a lesson or 2 from Poongko (Korean champ).
He plays a very fast & loose Ryu.

Leprekaun

Nah, I just need to develop my strategy a bit better to rank up with Ireland's best. I've got all the combos and all that nailed. I have some degree of social life that I'd like to cling on to so it would smash it if I were to attempt to reach the level of Daigo or Poongko.

By the way , I wanted to ask you, what were you saying to me there when we were shaking our hands before our match cuz you seemed bothered about something, I dunno, I might've misunderstood or something so please excuse me if I did but I was just curious because I was very confused

K.O.Kiki

Just nerves before a match & all that jazz with button configs, and I wanted to shake your hand AFTER we configured buttons. :rolleyes:
Let's meet again on the field of battle!

Dreddybajs

GGs Kiki, pity more people didn't show up but there's always next time! Cheers again for the stick, haven't got a chance to use it yet but I think I'm gonna like it.

Leprekaun

Right, no worries . Dunno why you'd be nervous about the tournament. Its just for a bit of fun anyway. I look forward to facing your Abel again, got lucky last time so want to see if I'm cr@p or total cr@p

OT: HahA! you can never defeat my filthy tongue boards mods. I shall constantly use words that you would otherwise censor and simply modify them to bypass your ridiculous censorship system.

Kirby

Leprekaun wrote: »

Dunno why you'd be nervous about the tournament. Its just for a bit of fun anyway.

It's just one of those things. I'm the same as him tbh. I sign up for tourneys and leagues in games all the time. I do it for the competition and fun.....and I get nervous anyway. It's just in my make-up and I know most people are the same.

I mean, its a mess about and all that...and I dont take it seriously either, but I still get that competition flutter.

Leprekaun

Well, don't think I was ice cool or anything but I guess it just depends on a player's level of play. I mean, maybe with you lads, you were going into the tournament, knowing that you're good enough to fight to win the tournament while I personally went in knowing that either blag, azza, bush or the balrog player (sorry, I didn't get your name) would most probably beat me. I'd still try my best but my mind was prepared for losing because I was expecting it if you know what I mean where as with you lads, you felt you can go all the way so any hit you take gets you even more nervous.

I'm probably talking sh!t so don't pay much attention to what I'm saying.

Doctor DooM

Leprekaun wrote: »

Well, don't think I was ice cool or anything but I guess it just depends on a player's level of play. I mean, maybe with you lads, you were going into the tournament, knowing that you're good enough to fight to win the tournament while I personally went in knowing that either blag, azza, bush or the balrog player (sorry, I didn't get your name) would most probably beat me. I'd still try my best but my mind was prepared for losing because I was expecting it if you know what I mean where as with you lads, you felt you can go all the way so any hit you take gets you even more nervous.

I'm probably talking sh!t so don't pay much attention to what I'm saying.

i'm not top tier. If we're doing this next week, I promise you a fight.

DarkTalant

I'm the rog player from the last tournament and I have to say tbh I didn't expect to do as well as I did.
I'm definantly not as good as azza, he's an absolute beast, and I'm not sure how I'd measure up against some of the other players here in friendlies...

Leprekaun

I don't think I'd be able to come down next week if there is another one on as a friend of mine is coming over from Germany for the week. I'll try anyway, he might like street fighter

Dreddybajs

No worries, maybe more people would show up if we just did it every two weeks anyway. Seems like we could set up ranking battles too or whatever.

Leprekaun

By the way, I wanted to tell you lads that the fellas at Xtreme told me at the Halo tournament that the last SFIV tournament we had is the last official one because they borrowed some promotional copies from Capcom and they had to return them yesterday so I think if we're gonna have another tournament, we'll have to bring a few of our own discs down.

Just remember to put a sticker on your disc with your name on it to be able to differentiate between the discs.

Doctor DooM

Leprekaun wrote: »

By the way, I wanted to tell you lads that the fellas at Xtreme told me at the Halo tournament that the last SFIV tournament we had is the last official one because they borrowed some promotional copies from Capcom and they had to return them yesterday so I think if we're gonna have another tournament, we'll have to bring a few of our own discs down.

Just remember to put a sticker on your disc with your name on it to be able to differentiate between the discs.

Wow thats cheap. How much would a couple of copies of SF4 cost at this point?

Or are business' charged differently?

Leprekaun

Well, if you look at the back of the box of every game, there is a warning that says that you're not allowed to use the game for commercial purposes (which I think XGC would fall under) or rent. What we would be doing would be considered but if we bring a few copies, our case would be strong because it is the equivalent of meeting up at a friend's house and a bunch of people playing and only reason why we'd be using it at XGC is for convenience for everyone.

Leprekaun

SFIV prices seen to have dropped a lot. Collector's edition is selling £30 when on release, was £70. Can't remember the regular edition.

Leprekaun

Just had a look on Amazon, its ridiculous, collector's edition is only £2 more than the regular edition. Thats Amazon's prices, marketplace is probably cheaper again.

K.O.Kiki

But the "Collector's Edition" came with 2 of the ugliest figurines I've ever seen!

Man, I'm glad I spent my money on the "Strategy" guide instead :rolleyes:
Y'know, the one with frame data only for the arcade characters.
And that can't account for the changes in CE, or any future updates.

Jim

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

But the "Collector's Edition" came with 2 of the ugliest figurines I've ever seen!

Man, I'm glad I spent my money on the "Strategy" guide instead :rolleyes:
Y'know, the one with frame data only for the arcade characters.
And that can't account for the changes in CE, or any future updates.

I love those guides, especially for MMO's which go out of date the day after the game launches.

NeoKubrick

Leprekaun wrote: »

Well, if you look at the back of the box of every game, there is a warning that says that you're not allowed to use the game for commercial purposes (which I think XGC would fall under) or rent. What we would be doing would be considered but if we bring a few copies, our case would be strong because it is the equivalent of meeting up at a friend's house and a bunch of people playing and only reason why we'd be using it at XGC is for convenience for everyone.

As long as the majority of the fees are going into the prize pool and not to the venue, I don't think it would constitute a "commercial purpose" and I don't see any sane developer bringing a company or people to court for it.

Dreddybajs

If they're making money off their copies of the game being played then it's commercial and that's that, really.

Doctor DooM

Dreddybajs wrote: »

If they're making money off their copies of the game being played then it's commercial and that's that, really.

True dat.


Anyone know how much a copy for professional use costs?

Jim

Dreddybajs wrote: »

If they're making money off their copies of the game being played then it's commercial and that's that, really.

Surely this would then apply to all games in gaming tournaments and lans though if it was enforced in any form?

Doctor DooM

Jim wrote: »

Surely this would then apply to all games in gaming tournaments and lans though if it was enforced in any form?

Maybe it is?

Its all conjecture.

Dreddybajs

Some companies just don't care - e.g. in Korea there was a hubbub among the TV stations for who had the "broadcasting rights" to pro Starcraft games, and now I think they all have to pay one company for the right to broadcast games.

However none of this is covered by Starcraft's TOS at all, and if they wanted to, Blizzard could shut it all down - they won't, though, as it's good for them to have Starcraft seen as a competitive and exciting enough game to be played on live TV a decade after its release, etc.

Kinetic^

That commercial purposes thing means to sell them. There are no commercial copies like that for games as far as I know, not for renting. I reckon they don't feel that it's that big of a business yet to warrant the extra cost.

NeoKubrick

Dreddybajs wrote: »

If they're making money off their copies of the game being played then it's commercial and that's that, really.

Er, not really. As Kinetic stated, "commercial purpose" and "commercial" are different definitions and the discussion is "commercial purpose".

Dreddybajs

How is it not still a commercial purpose? Either way, I doubt Capcom would care anyway.

Jim

I'd say its pretty safe to do, otherwise all XGC's tournys for FIFA etc would be at risk also, not to mention every other tournament for every other game at every other net cafe and lan in the world.

Leprekaun

Jim wrote: »

I'd say its pretty safe to do, otherwise all XGC's tournys for FIFA etc would be at risk also, not to mention every other tournament for every other game at every other net cafe and lan in the world.

Well, I've been to other net cafes before where they have licences to run games over a LAN and I've heard that a local net cafe were fined 5000 punt for running games that they didn't have the licences for.

If XGC are running tournaments without licences, they're treading on a very thin line.

Like Dreddy said, it could be said that Capcom would be happy to see tournaments as its free exposure but there is one company that I think would try to hunt down people every chance they get and they would be Microsoft.

Doctor DooM

Leprekaun wrote: »

Well, I've been to other net cafes before where they have licences to run games over a LAN and I've heard that a local net cafe were fined 5000 punt for running games that they didn't have the licences for.

If XGC are running tournaments without licences, they're treading on a very thin line.

Like Dreddy said, it could be said that Capcom would be happy to see tournaments as its free exposure but there is one company that I think would try to hunt down people every chance they get and they would be Microsoft.

In the business world, the fact that Capcom "would be happy" wouldn't be enough for most companies. A legal reassurance they would not be sued is probably what most would require. A stand up business just wont leave themselves open to legal attack like that.

That said, if we go in with our own disc and play, I can't see them protesting much.

NeoKubrick

Leprekaun wrote: »

Well, I've been to other net cafes before where they have licences to run games over a LAN and I've heard that a local net cafe were fined 5000 punt for running games that they didn't have the licences for.

If XGC are running tournaments without licences, they're treading on a very thin line.

Like Dreddy said, it could be said that Capcom would be happy to see tournaments as its free exposure but there is one company that I think would try to hunt down people every chance they get and they would be Microsoft.

Net cafes have presumably stricter laws because they are renting out their PCs and software installed on said PCs to customers and the public. So, you can't compare Net cafes to a competitive tournament.

I don't it is true that Microsoft would hunt people down, because they have allowed XL Halo tournaments and even supplied XL (Xbox 360 UK LAN) with Halo game discs and consoles.

Dreddybajs

This whole argument is ridiculous anyway, who wants to meet up for a few games next weekend?

NeoKubrick

Dreddybajs wrote: »

This whole argument is ridiculous anyway, who wants to meet up for a few games next weekend?

You and others have kept confusing people. :P

Dreddybajs

So make a new thread if you don't want to talk about meeting up for casual games in the XGC - either way let's stop posting about it in this one.

Dreddybajs

Can a mod close this thread as there's now a newer one about this up?