English paper 2

Power-surge

What is everyone covering?

for me its:

Macbeth:
Witches, Macbeth a study of evil and LMB and Macbeths relationship.

Comparitive:
Just Cultural Context (fairly worried about just doing one though!!)

Poetry:
Longley, Walcott and Bishop

english4490

Power-surge wrote: »

What is everyone covering?

for me its:

Macbeth:
Witches, Macbeth a study of evil and LMB and Macbeths relationship.

Comparitive:
Just Cultural Context (fairly worried about just doing one though!!)

Poetry:
Longley, Walcott and Bishop

same as me basically! i would much rather do the cultural context than the theme for my comparative!

Gloom

Macbeth

1. Good/Evil
2. Appearance/Reality
3. Enduring popularity
4. Macbeth

Comparative

1. Theme/Issue
2. Cultural Context

Poetry

1. Keats
2. Walcott
3. Bishop

Gavin "shels"

http://www.rte.ie/tv/ttv/ttv/leavingcert/Jim%20Lusbys%20Tips%20on%20English%20Paper%202.doc

timmywex

Just learning aloada macbeth quote

Theme/issue and general vision/viewpoint on comparitive

Bishop/longley and montague on poetry

Dante

Macbeth
1. Evil
2. Witches
3. Banquo
4. Macbeth & Lady Macbeth's relationship

Poetry
1. Keats
2. Bishop
3. Longley

Comparative
1. Theme of Communication
2. General Vision & Viewpoint

Extrasupervery

Ah ****, the comparative exists.

haloauto

Macbeth
Role of Banquo
Role of Witches
Relationship between Macbeth & Lady Macbeth
Appearance vs Reality
Kingship

Comparative
Cultural Context, Theme, Vision& Viewpoint in that order.

Poetry
Walcott
Bishop
Rich (less so)

Ive prepared answers all before so just need to recap and learn some quotes now.

Des23

Poetry

Wallcott, Keats, Longley (I'll probably look over Bishop just in case)

Comparative

Theme of 'Quests'
Cultural Context

Macbeth

Banquo
Appearance vs. Reality / Deception / Dissumulation
Evil
Relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth
Pity etc
I plan to just study the play in general aswell because there is a lot of scope for questions

Swizz

Gavin shels wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/tv/ttv/ttv/leavingcert/Jim%20Lusbys%20Tips%20on%20English%20Paper%202.doc

Is that for this year?

I havent started but am gonna do

Macbeth:
Good vs Evil

Comparitive:
Cultural Context
General Vision and Viewpoint

Poetry:
Longley
Bishop
Maybe Montague or someone else

Gavin "shels"

Swizz wrote: »

Is that for this year?

Yup.

They have a few other subjects aswell http://www.rte.ie/tv/ttv/ttv/leavingcert/leavingcert_archive.html

QueenOfLeon

Gavin shels wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/tv/ttv/ttv/leavingcert/Jim%20Lusbys%20Tips%20on%20English%20Paper%202.doc

Thanks for those At the start of the year i scorned at all this prediction business..."Ah, sure ill just learn EVERYTHING..."

But now i like them :rolleyes:

bythewoods

Oh, I've cut this down. Riiiight down.

Macbeth-
Banquo,
Macbeth/ Lady Macbeth
Kingship.

Comparative-
Cultural Context.

Poetry-
Bishop
Longley.

And yes, I am aiming for an A1
I'm curious as to whether or not it can be done tbh- still not even entirely sure of the storyline in Macbeth & haven't actually READ one of my Comparative texts properly. Well, I read like.. one of the short stories..
Be graaaaaaaaaand.

leesmom

why are so many people doing kingship? the question in 2007 or 2004 about power its use and abuse was essentially a kingship question if you read the marking scheme, my teacher gave us an essay on it but dont think in going to do it(could be crying on june 3rd or 4th or whatever day paper 2 is on tho!:mad:)
concentrating on keats,bishop,rich and longley(even though i hate his depressing poetry!!)
then cultural context key moments and vision and viewpoint key moments.

Swizz

Everyone seems to be doing Longley and Bishop

I'm doing one and only one poet: Keats. Big risk? Nah.

meathawk

if i stick with montague, bishop and longely i should be safe enough ....right?right ???

Piste

Macbeth
Kingship
Evil
Ambition
Lady Macbeth/Macbeth
Banquo

Poetry
Walcott
Bishop
Longley

Comparative
Theme and Issue
Cultural Context

jefreywithonef

Macbeth:
Kingship; Evil; Imagery of Destruction; Appearance Vs. Reality / Deception; Influence of L Macbeth and Witches on Macbeth. Must get round to doing essays on Banquo, ambition and on the relationship between LMacbeth and Macbeth.

Comparative
General Vision & Viewpoint (gonna do cultural context and look over theme of father son relationship too).

Poetry
Keats and Bishop. Possibly some last gasp studying on Rich as well.

Nihilist21

Macbeth
Everything basically, obviously will look over some key essays but I know this pretty well.

Poetry
Keats
Bishop
Rich

Comparative
Theme/Issue
Cultural Context (hoping for this one)

antomorro-sei

Poetry
Longley
Rich
Bishop

Comparative
General Vision + Viewpoint

Macbeth
Emmm... Quotes
Good -v- Evil
And, I'll probably look over the character questions etc...

Power-surge

I'd say the whole country is studying Longley! Hes an easy poet to study. Has anyone covered all of english yet? I have loads to do still

happydayz182

Anyone else only doing bishop?

ImJohn

Would it be a big risk just studying Walcott? He hasn't come up in a few years and is pretty much due.

haloauto

They have to put a female poet on the exam paper don't they? Therefore it'll be either Bishop or Rich or Both. Rich was on the paper last year and is also on the course next year......

xOxSinéadxOx

what should I learn? I haven't started yet. I'm thinking walcott and longley for the poetry. haven't a clue what to do for macbeth though

Chanandler Bong

Gavin shels wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/tv/ttv/ttv/leavingcert/Jim%20Lusbys%20Tips%20on%20English%20Paper%202.doc

ha jim lusby what a hero, have him for paper 1

haloauto

haloauto wrote: »

They have to put a female poet on the exam paper don't they? Therefore it'll be either Bishop or Rich or Both. Rich was on the paper last year and is also on the course next year......

Have? No, they don't. That's been the pattern so far - but there's nothing to say that the pattern has to continue (i.e. it's not on the syllabus that a female poet has to come up). But it's highly unlikely, at least in my opinion, that one won't come up.

herisson

timmywex wrote: »

Just learning aloada macbeth quote

Theme/issue and general vision/viewpoint on comparitive

Bishop/longley and montague on poetry

me too but i might look over rich and look over some character and theme questions on the macbeth
im screwed for it though

ordinary_girl

I've learned off about 10 Macbeth quotes with no particular theme (I'll just waffle on the day.) I've got General Vision and Viewpoint and Theme or Issue sorted aswell. The poets I've got prepared so far are:

Keats (my favourite)
Montague
Mahon
Longley

I'm refusing to prepare Elizabeth Bishop, purely because I can't stand her poetry.

Fringe

-JammyDodger- wrote: »

Have? No, they don't. That's been the pattern so far - but there's nothing to say that the pattern has to continue (i.e. it's not on the syllabus that a female poet has to come up). But it's highly unlikely, at least in my opinion, that one won't come up.

Yeah but thanks to the PC world, if they don't we can give out about sexism.

I'm doing Longley, Bishop and Walcott. Haven't fully finished my Bishop essay yet though. They're so likely that there really isn't any need to bother. I've also got a cultural context done and maybe if I can bend my cultural context a bit, I"ve got a theme/issue. For Macbeth, I always just wing it. I've got kingship/power, good and evil prepared. Might prepare some characters.

Davaeo09

For Poetry it's essential to have strong opinions on your poets folks.
Id be jotting down 4 or 5 feelings for each poem, by each poet

Oh, and Keats, Bishop, Longley and Montague I think, there's always a surprise - Montague

:pac:

awhir

Davaeo09 wrote: »

For Poetry it's essential to have strong opinions on your poets folks.
Id be jotting down 4 or 5 feelings for each poem, by each poet

Oh, and Keats, Bishop, Longley and Montague I think, there's always a surprise - Montague

:pac:

is montague is on it , then longley wont be.

lorr3

loads seem to discounting rich...i dunno she is a terrible poet to try study but im wondering will they be cheaky and put her up two years..they did it with bishop and plus bishop is always on:) just thinkin out loud...im not leavin her out.

Calum196

Macbeth
Lady Macbeth
Banquo
Witches
Macbeth
Kingship
Apperance vs. Reality
Good vs. Evil

Compatative
General Vision and Viewpoint
Cultural Context

Poetry
Bishop
Longley
Keats
Walcott

.... Sidenote : if you do those four poets you cant be caught out, unless they repeat three of the poets that came up last year.

lorr3

lorr3 wrote: »

loads seem to discounting rich...i dunno she is a terrible poet to try study but im wondering will they be cheaky and put her up two years..they did it with bishop and plus bishop is always on:) just thinkin out loud...im not leavin her out.

The problem with Rich is not that she was up last year; it's that she's on the syllabus for next year, too.

XorlamacX

does anyone have any macbeth essays they could give me via the net....out english teacher was soooooooooooo bad weve nothin to go on........

SarcasticFairy

http://www.zulunotes.com/wiki/index.php/Kingship%2C_with_its_potential_for_good_or_evil%2C_is_a_major_theme_in_Macbeth

Sample on Kingship

galway.gaa

how long should an answer be in each section? i think i wote a little more the 3 pages on macbeth, comparitive and poetry in the mocks. just wondering what is an acceptable amount

jefreywithonef

galway.gaa wrote: »

how long should an answer be in each section? i think i wote a little more the 3 pages on macbeth, comparitive and poetry in the mocks. just wondering what is an acceptable amount

I usually end up doing six or seven but I think 4 would be the minimum for each.

galway.gaa

Monzo wrote: »

I usually end up doing six or seven but I think 4 would be the minimum for each.

tanks but its hard to find the time to get that much written. i got a B3 in the mocks with written that much. i wold write more but id be afraid of running out of time

galway.gaa

galway.gaa wrote: »

tanks but its hard to find the time to get that much written. i got a B3 in the mocks with written that much. i wold write more but id be afraid of running out of time

Don't mind what other people say they write: it's completely irrelevant. Some people only write 6-7 words per line, whereas others (me being one) write closer to 12 or 13. That means that one person could write 14 pages and another write 7, but both have exactly the same word count.

Besides, it's quality, and not quantity, that matters.

christina_x

what are you guys doing for your single text?
if anybodys doing regeneration, what characters are you studying? i only know Prior and Sassoon, not an awful lot about Rivers though...

who were you guys told to know in depth?

christina_x

lorr3 wrote: »

loads seem to discounting rich...i dunno she is a terrible poet to try study but im wondering will they be cheaky and put her up two years..they did it with bishop and plus bishop is always on:) just thinkin out loud...im not leavin her out.

yeah see they could do that.. beacuse isnt there only two female poets on the course? (i could be wrong but i dont think so..) soo... they might try and catch everybody out because the obvious peot to know is Bishop because Rich was up last year.

three poets we were told to know in depth is Rich, Bishop and Montague.
Thats female and irish poets covered!

Jammyc

happydayz182 wrote: »

Anyone else only doing bishop?

Only done Bishop so far. Plan to do Longely and Walcott too but finding it pretty hard. Anyone got any notes ready to throw towards me for Longely or Walcott?

herisson

quick question is everybody doing walcott and keats?? it seems like everyone is

Gloom

Yes, I'm going to stick to them and throw in Bishop aswell.

eshortie

Macbeth:
Kingship, Deception (Appearance VS Reality). That's it big risk...just those two???

Poerty
Walcott, Bishop and Longley are big tips even by 2fm so I'm sticking to them only.

Comparitive:
Cultural Context and Theme/Issue......General Vision is horrible.

Any one gotany advice for acbeth I'm pretty poor at it...never liked it

Black kettle

Macbeth:
Theme of evil
Macbeth tragic hero or villain
Striking images and symbols
Most striking themes: power, regret, good vs evil etc.

Comparative Study:
Cultural Context
General Vision and Viewpoint

Poetry:
Michael Longley
Elizabeth Bishop
John Montague
Adrienne Rich

Has anyone noticed that Bishop and Longley have always come up together???

James90626

Macbeth:
Macbeth Character essay
Evil
Banquo

Comparative:
Cultural Context
Theme of Relationship

Poetry:
Longley
Bishop

I have only prepared two poets...would I be okay for the poetry section?:(

Fringe

Montague can replace Longley while Rich can replace Bishop.