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Resting Metabolic Rate Test in Ireland?

  • 22-05-2009 9:28pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1


    Anyone know if this test or even BMR test is accessible/available in Ireland? Preferably in West of Ireland?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Buy a heart rate monitor, wear it for a typical day, do this a few times and I'd say your avg calories burned is a good indicator of your RMR.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 282 ✭✭injured365


    You wouldnt be able to tell your BMR by wearing a heart rate monitor as your BMR only contributes to your daily calorie count. There are some formulas using your age, sex, height, around the internet which would give you a rough estimate of your BMR


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    I have very little faith in those formulae. They consistantly give me a much higher BMR than is realistic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭hooplah


    what would you reccomend instead eileen?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    injured365 wrote: »
    You wouldnt be able to tell your BMR by wearing a heart rate monitor as your BMR only contributes to your daily calorie count. There are some formulas using your age, sex, height, around the internet which would give you a rough estimate of your BMR
    A HRM should tell you what calories are burned, if you wear one for a couple of days of inactivity I think it would be a good representation of what your BMR is. I think I'd trust a HRM monitor more so than an equation.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    A HRM should tell you what calories are burned, if you wear one for a couple of days of inactivity I think it would be a good representation of what your BMR is. I think I'd trust a HRM monitor more so than an equation.

    Is there some function in a specific one to measure calorie burn??

    Maybe it can be based off heart rate alone, tho I don't see how....?? Like a lean fit athlete will have a resting heart rate waaaaaaaaaay lower than a fat couch potatoes, and I can't see the FCP burning more kcals at rest??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    I have a Polar f20 - cost a few squid but great for my runs i find. enter my weight and height and start it and it tells me my HR and kcal burned. course i take the kcal with a grain of salt but i kept it on all day once just out of curiosity. put the chest strap back on after training and monitered my average day.

    id imagine if you were to stay in the house all day in bed it could give you a reasonable idea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭bwardrop


    I can perform this test in work, but it is just as handy to use the prediction equations. In the vast majority of cases they are accurate and reliable enough. There are loads out there, with some being more detailed than others.

    [FONT=&quot]McArdle et al (1991):

    [/FONT]
    MEN: RMR = 66.5 + 13.75 (mass in kgs) + 5.0033 (height in cms) – 6.755 (age in years) =

    WOMEN: RMR = 655.1 + 9.46 (mass in kgs) + 1.8496 (height in cms) – 4.6756 (age in years) =

    [FONT=&quot]Cunningham (1991) [/FONT][FONT=&quot](if you know your % body fat):
    [/FONT][FONT=&quot]
    [/FONT]
    RMR = 371 + 21.6 (LBM) =

    Where: LBM = Lean Body Mass. To calculate LBM, we first calculate body fat mass:
    • Divide total weight by 100 and multiply by % body fat
    • LBM = total weight – fat mass
    • Plug this into the RMR equation

    The Cunningham equation takes lean body mass into account but not age - vice versa for McArdle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    hooplah wrote: »
    what would you reccomend instead eileen?
    Dunno about Eileen, but I would just track your typical calorie intake and see if you are gaining or losing weight! just figure it out empirically. I got an estimate and found I needed to lower calories further to lose 1lb a week, going on the 500kcal deficit estimate needed per day.

    I wonder why the OP needs to know it? whatever figure you are given it will probably be in calories, and people do not have the ability to use the same calories from different foods anyway, e.g. 1000kcal of coke will make you fatter than 1000kcal of beer. So it also depends on food type and probably a whole host of other things like food combinations affecting GI/GL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭amazingemmet


    For working out bmr I use a modified harris benedict formula

    Metric BMR Formula
    Women: BMR = 655 + ( 9.6 x lean bodyweight in kilos ) + ( 1.8 x height in cm ) - ( 4.7 x age in years )
    Men: BMR = 66 + ( 13.7 x lean bodyweight in kilos ) + ( 5 x height in cm ) - ( 6.8 x age in years )

    Then multiply by an activity factor which depends on what you do each day. Works fine for me or anyone I've ever used it with


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭eclectichoney


    bwardrop wrote: »

    [FONT=&quot]McArdle et al (1991):

    [/FONT]

    WOMEN: RMR = 655.1 + 9.46 (mass in kgs) + 1.8496 (height in cms) – 4.6756 (age in years) =


    OP I used this formula and found it pretty much spot on as regard my "sitting around the house all day doing nothing" maintenance level (1400 kcals), but like Rubadub I had pretty much figured out that level by trial & error (i.e. weight loss and weight gain!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    The only really accurate way to do it is to spend an ordinary week tracking every single thing you put in your mouth. Average it you, and you have your maintenance calories, exactly tailored to your lifestyle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭hooplah


    rubadub wrote: »
    Dunno about Eileen, but I would just track your typical calorie intake and see if you are gaining or losing weight! ...

    Yeah, that makes sense of course. Partially its because I'm curious about how different formulae work and how people find them. partially its because I want to lose a bit of fat and gain some muscle.
    For working out bmr I use a modified harris benedict formula

    ...

    Then multiply by an activity factor which depends on what you do each day. Works fine for me or anyone I've ever used it with

    Any time I've looked at these I always wonder how accurate they could be - do you have a weblink for a calculator you use?
    EileenG wrote: »
    The only really accurate way to do it is to spend an ordinary week tracking every single thing you put in your mouth. Average it you, and you have your maintenance calories, exactly tailored to your lifestyle.

    Now that makes sense! Up to now I've tracked most of what I eat with Fitday - I wouldn't include things like someone bringing sweets into work or alcohol consumption. I've aimed at roughly 2000k per day and ts worked ok for weight loss. I don't want to lose any more weight, just change the composition I guess at this stage. What I might do is get quite rigorous with the tracking for a week, keep a training diary and see how that goes...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Whatsyourface


    I'd still get an RMR test for accuracy. I know online calculators & equations are good, but they're not as accurate as getting the oxygen test, especially if your metabolisms crap like mine. Heres a link to a site i found. Located in Dublin though - and i haven't a clue about the cost! http://www.myhealthmatters.ie/metabolic-testing/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,369 ✭✭✭Thephantomsmask


    I emailed them recently, waiting for an appointment as they are planning a day in Cork in May, €60 for the basic 30min consultation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭Magenta


    I'd still get an RMR test for accuracy. I know online calculators & equations are good, but they're not as accurate as getting the oxygen test, especially if your metabolisms crap like mine. Heres a link to a site i found. Located in Dublin though - and i haven't a clue about the cost! http://www.myhealthmatters.ie/metabolic-testing/

    I'm sure people have got their answers in the 4 years since this thread was started...


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