Dogs & Running

1922

was out running this evening, nearly tripped up, looked down to find a dog trying to bite my ankles. left a roar at him but he didn't get the message...tried again to bite me, at the same time getting between my legs nearly tripping me several times. to be honest i kicked him to try get him away from me but no good. sprinted away for about 50mts and left him behind but the little bollox came back for more. i took off again but he eventually caught up. jumped on the next wall i came to.....

if i got down and walked he'd bite me, run away and he'd trip me up possibly in front of a car.....

after 45 minutes he went rooting behind the wall at which stage i took off like a hot snot, he didn't follow.....i remember before my mom had a dog dazzer for running to keep dogs away, any advice??

itsallaboutheL

cut out white bread and pasta....

cardio,shoot me

haha.

corkcomp

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

cut out white bread and pasta....

LOL - LMAO .. I wouldnt be surprised if someone posted that advice ... and you forgot to add that he should also cut out fruit :rolleyes:

rubadub

corkcomp wrote: »

LOL - LMAO .. I wouldnt be surprised if someone posted that advice ... and you forgot to add that he should also cut out fruit :rolleyes:

And take the sausages out of your pockets! (stole that from a thread in the cycling forum about how to get rid of dogs)

OP- sound like he thought you were playing with him, next time slow down completely and ignore him.

Killme00

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floggg

Killme00 wrote: »

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On the dog. Its hard to chase somebody with a sweaty jogger sitting on top of you!

floggg

rubadub wrote: »

And take the sausages out of your pockets! (stole that from a thread in the cycling forum about how to get rid of dogs)

OP- sound like he thought you were playing with him, next time slow down completely and ignore him.

Might be a trick actually. standing up tall to it might work, whereas running from it will only encourage it.

If you ever bump into a lion, the say stand up, face it, and make yourself as big as possible, and you may survive. Run, and you're whiskas!

Odysseus

I have had a few difficulties with dogs by me over the years, I did have to kick one of two of them as a last resort, it really looked like them where going to bite. However, generally I do an about turn and run at them shouting at the top of my voice. Makes me look like a bit of a nutter, but those dogs only bark and posture at me from a distance now. Whether I would go for it with a pitbull still has to be tested, but I grew up with dogs like that so I'm not intimadated by them. It depends on whether the are being playfully =annoying or they are p!ssed with you.

rubadub

Odysseus wrote: »

I did have to kick one of two of them as a last resort, it really looked like them where going to bite. However, generally I do an about turn and run at them shouting at the top of my voice. Makes me look like a bit of a nutter

I use the same techniques with canvassers

kevpants

1922 wrote: »

to be honest i kicked him to try get him away from me but no good...... sprinted away for about 50mts and left him behind but the little bollox came back for more..... jumped on the next wall i came to.....after 45 minutes he went rooting behind the wall at which stage i took off like a hot snot, he didn't follow.....

LMFAO. Wish I'd seen that. Can't believe you stood on a wall for 45 minutes!

You didn't kick him hard enough. If they don't make that high pitched whelp you didn't connect properly. Don't get me wrong I adore dogs but they're animals and there's only one way to respond if they are being agressive.

They can genuinely sense fear too, and judging by the fact that you stood on a wall for 45 mins I'd say you were displaying quite a bit of it.

lightening

Odysseus wrote: »

I have had a few difficulties with dogs by me over the years, I did have to kick one of two of them as a last resort, it really looked like them where going to bite

If they wanted to bite you, they would of. However, kicking the dog is a sure way of getting bitten.

The best thing to do is to knock on the owners door and ask them to take the dog in, it's illegal.

A dog out on its own chasing people is out of the question, but just to explain, they think they are getting rid of you and that you are running away from them in fear. They get a thrill out of this and sometimes they just do it for pure fun. Puppies do it out of fun and love.

As a runner and a dog owner I see both sides of the fence and some runners are complete morons when it comes to dogs, some dog owners are complete morons when it comes to runners.

Here are a few pointers....

If you don't like dogs, don't run right at them, they will try and sniff you as you run by.

Dogs on leads can be a bit more possessive of their owner, don't jog within inches of the dog as it could feel intimidated and turn and snap.

Don't jog in between the dog and the owner when the dog is on the lead. (this actually happened to me, a short lead! and the Jogger started to give out to me when the dog panicked)

If a dog chases you stop and don't reach out to it, don't stare at it and back off slowly if you think its vicious.

Dogs are allowed off leads at certain times in certain areas, take note of these.

Roaring "goway" and waving frantically at dogs can be mistaken as "HEY, LETS HAVE SOME FUN" by dogs.

Never kick a dog, unless it launches an attack. You just don't know how it will react when injured, or you could start the attack by attacking in the first place.

Odysseus

The ones that got a kick where coming towards me. not merely baking snarling showing teeth. I would say the wanted to bite me, but I wansn't giving them the chance. I run on country roads, most of them are farm dogs and will not leave their property. Whilst I love dogs if one comes at me like that; he is getting the good news of the day.

Its the owners responsibility to keep them on their land, its not on, to be making me believe I will be attacked or having them run under my legs tripping me up and increasing the likely hood of a injury. When I'm on a long run I have better things to be doing that stopping at peoples doors. My long runs are long enough without that.

lightening

Odysseus wrote: »

Its the owners responsibility to keep them on their land, its not on

I know, I said that.

Odysseus wrote: »

When I'm on a long run I have better things to be doing that stopping at peoples doors

Your choice! Won't solve the problem I'm afraid, if no one is going to tell the owners about their responsibility nothing will be done. Kicking dogs will only get you injured, the problem is with the humans.

rubadub

lightening wrote: »

Won't solve the problem I'm afraid, if no one is going to tell the owners about their responsibility nothing will be done.

I doubt that will solve the problem either, if they are letting the dogs out they are not responsible in the first place, be it in law or not. It would be like me seeing vandals smashing up a bus shelter and going up to them and saying "excuse me, did you know what you are doing it not actually allowed" -a waste of time. Anybody with a dog and an IQ above 50 knows their responsibilities.

My pet hate is these ridiculously long leashes, so they may aswell be off the lead, assholes walking on the path with their dog walking on the cycletrack on a long leash.

lightening

rubadub wrote: »

I doubt that will solve the problem either

It did for me.

rubadub wrote: »

It would be like me seeing vandals smashing up a bus shelter and going up to them and saying "excuse me, did you know what you are doing it not actually allowed" -a waste of time. Anybody with a dog and an IQ above 50 knows their responsibilities

Big difference between wanton violence and bad dog ownership. Do these dog owners know their dogs are chasing? I can guarantee you, the vandals know what they are doing. Regarding the long leads, if you just give them a wide birth like you would if there was a large group of kids, or adults, or any obstacle. I do it all the time, it's no problem.

ScissorPaperRock

rubadub wrote: »

It would be like me seeing vandals smashing up a bus shelter and going up to them and saying "excuse me, did you know what you are doing it not actually allowed" -a waste of time.

It's not exactly the same as that though. People may not realise that their dogs are causing trouble, and if someone complained they would likely feel obligated to control the dog more. I know I would if someone complained about my dog.

Khannie

My own solution is to be agressive with dogs. Unless it was a very large dog (i.e. potentially life threatening) my own response to being bitten would be to kick the living snot out of it. edit: I should say that it has never come to that yet for me so you may take it with a pinch of salt. As someone else pointed out though, dogs are really adept at sensing fear and I'm (generally) not afraid of dogs.

lightening

Khannie wrote: »

My own solution is to be agressive with dogs. Unless it was a very large dog (i.e. potentially life threatening) my own response to being bitten would be to kick the living snot out of it

Well, in fairness Khannie, if you get mauled, you can do nothing but fight back!! However, I would strongly advise against lashing out at dogs that are chasing or running with you, sure way of getting injured. That's the last thing your fitness program needs, stitches tetanus and no running for a few weeks.

olaola

Aww, I thought this thread was about running with your dog. Which I do, and it's a two bird with one stone situation. Until you have to run with a full poo-bag to the next bin.

I'd say in your loudest and deepest voice boom at the dog. And point your paw in opposite direction while doing so. Best to do it in a repetitive motion, so it kinda looks like you're going to hit it.

kevpants

lightening wrote: »

I would strongly advise against lashing out at dogs that are chasing or running with you, sure way of getting injured.

I think the consensus is just to kick the ones being aggressive, not run through the phoenix park kicking the sh1t out of random dogs.

rubadub

lightening wrote: »

Big difference between wanton violence and bad dog ownership. Do these dog owners know their dogs are chasing?

ScissorPaperRoc wrote: »

It's not exactly the same as that though. People may not realise that their dogs are causing trouble,

Fair enough, I am thinking more of people who know the law about dogs on leads and knowingly break the law. Like scumbags who get particular breeds of dogs for only one reason, and do not muzzle these particular dogs when required by law. If a responsible person was letting their dog off the leash they would be checking it to see how it behaved, many would know the character/manner of the dog anyway. Responsible people should presume the dog will/could cause trouble and keep an eye on them.

lightening wrote: »

Regarding the long leads, if you just give them a wide birth like you would if there was a large group of kids, or adults, or any obstacle. I do it all the time, it's no problem.

To obey the law I must cycle on cycletracks, to give a wide berth I would have to cycle on the road, hopping off a kerb to do so, or cycle on the footpath, both illegal and dangerous.

I am not talking about the phoneix park or any other parks. I do rarely cycle in one park and do go onto the grass to avoid these idiots. I have seen fools walking dogs walking with the flow of traffic on cycletracks on the N11 with NO footpath. Without a dog they are enough of a hazard and cannot even see cyclists coming.

Khannie

lightening wrote: »

However, I would strongly advise against lashing out at dogs that are chasing or running with you, sure way of getting injured.

I think my willingness to lash out means they don't come near me. But you're right of course, I could do without getting into an actual fight with a dog.

kevpants

I don't actually think there's a law about dogs and leashes. I think it's just that everyone presumes there is? Open to correction though.

Roper

Even aggressive dogs are usually just being protective of their owners and or patch. Some are just mad to run with people "hey look you're running I can run too look look look look at me look I can even run between your legs look look look oh you fell over I bet all you need is a good lick how about this one look look look why are you shouting?"

Sometimes people think dogs are being aggressive when they're just being playful. Barking isn't just about aggression it's also trying to get you to play. I've barked at a few people who have aimed kicks at my dog when he's just been sniffing their leg/nuts. For an actual, genuine dog attack, a dog can do a lot of damage in a very short space of time and kicking out often just gives them a nice meaty target.

Roper

kevpants wrote: »

I don't actually think there's a law about dogs and leashes. I think it's just that everyone presumes there is? Open to correction though.

There is. There's also muzzling laws for certain breeds and leash free times in certain parks and beaches which is just gay. Have you ever tried to give your dog a swim in the Irish Sea while keeping the lead on?

olaola

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1986/en/act/pub/0032/sec0009.html#zza32y1986s9

Dogs (with the exception of restricted breeds) are allowed off their leads while under 'effectual control' of the person in charge. Unless there is a bye-law in place.

Oryx

Suggestion for the more pacifist runners: Bring a squeezy water bottle. Use it like a water pistol. Dogs hate that.

I get chased/attacked by dogs quite a bit, Im in the country, theres a few houses on my run routes where dogs are usually loose. The little ones are the worst. I dont bring water, so cant do what I suggest above, but I am not afraid of dogs, so I have no problem stopping, turning to face them (which is important), feinting an attack, and shouting. It works as long as youre genuinely not afraid. Then keep an eye on them as you begin to move away so they dont continue to chase. Dogs just love a moving target, its in their nature.

The worst dogs are the ones that spring out from behind a gate, barking like crazy, they scare the sh!t out of you, and you end up leaping into the middle of the road like a twat.

telemachus

kevpants wrote: »

I think the consensus is just to kick the ones being aggressive, not run through the phoenix park kicking the sh1t out of random dogs.

This sounds like an interesting form of interval training, jog at a leisurely pace through park until you encounter large dog, then boot it full in the face and run at 99 percent of max heart rate until safe/mauled/dead. Then repeat.

all_smilz

if i could, i'd pee on him....

Reyman

You lads need to be more ahem 'dogged' in your running

**Timbuk2**

Sometimes it's the small ones that are the most violent! They say it's the dogs that don't bark that you need to watch out for.

As for attacking dogs - you could potentially create more problems than you'd solve. And besides, what if this guy below was violent - who would kick poor fluffy ?

gally74

IM JUST IN WEEK 9 OF C25K!

Almost got eaten alive by a lab and a terrier yesterday in Galway. Ive been around dogs and owned them all my life, but some people are so careless and irresponsible.

Whats the best course of action,