Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

United/Liverpool team-Inspired by Motd2

  • 17-05-2009 10:09pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    got a bit of a chuckle on MOTD2 when the lads on the couch reckoned Liverpool would only have 2/3 players in Utds first 11 if they could choose.

    Opted for this formation as its the one both teams use & its the formation that most suits Gerrard, who is obviously too good to leave out imo.

    Personally I'd go with....

    ========Reina========
    Arbeloa=Vidic==Rio===Evra
    ====Alonso=Masch======
    Ronaldo==Gerrard==Rooney
    ========Torres========

    Wat do people reckon?

    Think Rooney out of position is a nescessity, i think the lack of a genuine world class player on the left means he'd have to be there & i think he can be excellent out there.

    It could also morph into 4-4-2, with Gerrard on the right & Ronaldo on the left.

    (note;if people wanna piss & moan about usual Liverpool/Utd crap, just don't post in the thread, its something that should be able to be discussed without descending into ****e troll attempts or arguments)


«134

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,947 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    this will end in tears but what team did Motd2 have?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    not 100% sure about Arbeloa or Rio.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Headshot wrote: »
    this will end in tears but what team did Motd2 have?

    Van der sar
    O' Shea
    Rio
    Vidic
    Evra

    Carrick
    Fletcher
    Ronaldo
    Rooney
    Gerrard

    Torres


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    motd 2 had all Utd except Gerrard & Torres.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    can we all promise here and now to be reasonable and accept people will have differing opinions? :pac:


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    I'd have Wes Brown in ahead of Arbeloa - otherwise, I think you're pretty much spot on.

    Not a huge amount between keepers for me either, but I'd take Reina ahead of VDS.

    So mine would be a 6-5 split in favour of United, which is about right I'd say. If it had to extend to a squad, I'd probably be choosing more Utd players though, which says a lot.

    EDIT: I might even choose Carragher at RB either, but it's a while since I saw him play there so not 100%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    motd 2 had all Utd except Gerrard & Torres.

    About right imo


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    Putting VDS and Fletcher in is lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,947 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    mayordenis wrote: »
    Van der sar
    O' Shea
    Rio
    Vidic
    Evra

    Carrick
    Fletcher
    Ronaldo
    Rooney
    Gerrard

    Torres

    thats not too bad,carrick on form is up there with alonso,masch should be in there, the goalie well both can make mistakes somtimes so thats a hard choice
    pepe is a great shot stopper but vds is a brilliant kicker
    could we make a hybrid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,947 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    alan id put oshea ahead of Arbeloa tbf


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Well for me Reina is the best keeper in the league, but that's just me.
    I honestly think kicking is about the worst facets of VDS's game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Reinas distribution is among his best qualities, he has a few assists iirc. VDS kicking is quite poor is it not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭Happy Monday


    I'd have Alonso, Mascherano, Torres and Gerrard in the first 11.
    Cases could also be made for Reina and Carragher.
    I mean we did beat Utd home and away this season after all! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,211 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    ========Reina========
    Arbeloa=Vidic==Rio===Evra
    ====Alonso=Masch======
    Ronaldo==Gerrard==Rooney
    ========Torres========

    Yeah I think I'd go with that. Only questionable one is Arbeloa, but neither team has a very solid right back at the moment.

    Reina over VDS every day of the week.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    I'd have Alonso, Mascherano, Torres and Gerrard in the first 11.
    Cases could also be made for Reina and Carragher.
    I mean we did bet Utd home and away this season after all! :)

    god dam is use the :pac: emote - it's stops this turning into a massiva flame war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    ========Reina========
    Brown=Vidic==Rio===Evra
    ====Alonso=Masch======
    Ronaldo==Gerrard==Rooney
    ========Torres========


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,947 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    mayordenis wrote: »
    Well for me Reina is the best keeper in the league, but that's just me.
    I honestly think kicking is about the worst facets of VDS's game.
    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Reinas distribution is among his best qualities, he has a few assists iirc. VDS kicking is quite poor is it not?

    ye think so

    jesus i think he's a right good kicker

    and i also think he manages the back line superbly
    he did make a record for not conceding goals


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    motd had-

    ========VDS========
    O' Shea=Vidic==Rio===Evra
    ====Carrick=Fletcher======
    Ronaldo==Gerrard==Rooney
    ========Torres========



    carrick / alonso is a difficult one. id probably go with alonso if not only just to annoy english pundits.
    mascherano is a better player then darren fletcher
    gerrard, torres, rooney & ronaldo are ok there
    vidic, rio & evra work well so i wouldnt bother changing that
    o' shea versus arbeloa... hmmm... arbeloa for me but neither of them are special. rafael twin guy (forget his second name atm :/ ) might be better in the future but not right now
    Reina is a better keeper then old man van der sar


    you have to remember that the team was made by martin keown and lee dixon who are poor pundits at best.
    id like to see wat andy gray would put together, or graeme souness. even giles would put an interesting one up.
    while dunphy would have ronaldo on the bench........


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Headshot wrote: »
    ye think so

    jesus i think he's a right good kicker

    and i also think he manages the back line superbly

    that's fair enough, I always look at him looking for mistakes the same way some pool fans look for lucas errors etc. you find what you want to find.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭Paul Tergat


    Cases could also be made for Reina and Carragher.
    I mean we did beat Utd home and away this season after all! :)

    lol @ carra - ahead of rio or vidic? even at rb i dont think he'd get in the team.



    I'd be going for the team that Al posted in the OP id say apart from probably Arbeloa.

    Can't imagine this thread lasting too long though the way some people go in here.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    lol at people not appreciating arbeloa...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,947 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    mayordenis wrote: »
    that's fair enough, I always look at him looking for mistakes the same way some pool fans look for lucas errors etc. you find what you want to find.

    if i was being critical of vds,I would say

    he's dodgy at crosses ie punches the ball instead of catching it ,not good a saving peno's imo

    I remember the last season CL final and he shouldve save at least 2 that went in


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Nobody even has a word for Agger here?
    I don't think it's a definate thing or anything but I think rio has seen better days the rough and tumble of Vidic plus the attack from the back of Agger could be interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭bUILDERtHEbOB


    Frisbee wrote: »
    ========Reina========
    Brown=Vidic==Rio===Evra
    ====Alonso=Masch======
    Ronaldo==Gerrard==Rooney
    ========Torres========

    This.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭DSB


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    got a bit of a chuckle on MOTD2 when the lads on the couch reckoned Liverpool would only have 2/3 players in Utds first 11 if they could choose.

    Opted for this formation as its the one both teams use & its the formation that most suits Gerrard, who is obviously too good to leave out imo.

    Personally I'd go with....

    ========Reina========
    Arbeloa=Vidic==Rio===Evra
    ====Alonso=Masch======
    Ronaldo==Gerrard==Rooney
    ========Torres========

    Wat do people reckon?

    Think Rooney out of position is a nescessity, i think the lack of a genuine world class player on the left means he'd have to be there & i think he can be excellent out there.

    It could also morph into 4-4-2, with Gerrard on the right & Ronaldo on the left.

    (note;if people wanna piss & moan about usual Liverpool/Utd crap, just don't post in the thread, its something that should be able to be discussed without descending into ****e troll attempts or arguments)

    I'd agree with your team to be honest except I'd probably give Anderson the nod ahead of Alonso.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,947 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    tbh

    the backline belongs to utd after that ill think about it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭DSB


    mayordenis wrote: »
    Nobody even has a word for Agger here?
    I don't think it's a definate thing or anything but I think rio has seen better days the rough and tumble of Vidic plus the attack from the back of Agger could be interesting.

    Nah Agger isn't of the same class as Rio. Quality player though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Headshot wrote: »
    thats not too bad,carrick on form is up there with alonso,

    See theres the problem. Lots of playrs could be as good as a better player on their day. Over a season its Alonso all the way.No doubt for me.

    Headshot wrote: »

    and i also think he manages the back line superbly
    he did make a record for not conceding goals


    That was more to do with the rest of the team than VDS to be fair. He only made 4 or 5 saves in that whole run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭Paul Tergat


    mayordenis wrote: »
    Nobody even has a word for Agger here?
    I don't think it's a definate thing or anything but I think rio has seen better days the rough and tumble of Vidic plus the attack from the back of Agger could be interesting.

    WHAT? it's only niggling injuries - this can be only what you are referring surely?


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    yep DSB and larkin your probably both right,
    the injuries have taken away from him though it has to be said,
    But i just have a hardon for agger :D


  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Anderson Hollow Spike


    Frisbee wrote: »
    ========Reina========
    Brown=Vidic==Rio===Evra
    ====Alonso=Masch======
    Ronaldo==Gerrard==Rooney
    ========Torres========


    +1

    Brown and Arbeloa are much of a muchness.
    The MOTD2 team was a joke.

    Can you imagine the damage that team would do to a team.
    This why we should have a premiership 11 v la liga 11 at the end of every year :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,947 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    can i just say this is going well

    lets see how long we can keep it up for

    but im off now

    looking forward to reading it tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭Paul Tergat


    mayordenis wrote: »
    yep DSB and larkin your probably both right,
    the injuries have taken away from him though it has to be said,
    But i just have a hardon for agger :D

    whatever floats your boat mate :pac:


    I do like the ball playing centre backs but I love watching CB's like Vida who just dominate a defence. He would do it through just being a rock whereas Rio will do it in classy more finesse like way. I assume Pool will be looking to the same long term from Agger/Skrtel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭eZe^


    I mean we did beat Utd home and away this season after all! :)

    You are also going to end the season trophyless, in comparison to Utd who already have 3... So it's pointless really...


    I'd go with;

    Reina

    ---O'Shea
    Vidic
    Rio
    Evra

    Mascherano

    Carrick
    Gerrard

    ----Ronaldo
    Torres
    Rooney----


    Tasty team, nicely balanced, Gerrard's goals/ leadership/ driver would make up for the fact that he doesn't really have the best dominance or reading of the game like the Pirlo's of the world...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer



    Reina

    ---Brown
    Vidic
    Rio
    Evra


    Alonso----Carrick

    Ronaldo
    Gerrard
    Rooney

    Torres


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,455 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Oh my Liverpool/United team, lmfao. Really getting exclusive now. Lets do Barca/Real next and then the two Milans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    IvySlayer wrote: »

    BROWN - RIO - VIDIC - EVRA - best defence in the league

    Apart from Chelsea of course who conceded less.

    Everyone is lauding Utd's defence as being streets ahead of everyone, but Chelsea have conceded 2 less and Liverpool have only conceded 2 more, which included a 4-4 draw with Asrenal that we could go another 50 years and not see again.

    I just dont think it's as invincible as people think. Which is why theres a perfectly good case for a bit of a mix with Liverpool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭Paul Tergat


    EZE why carrick over alonso. I think that theyre main function in the team would be due to their passing. For me, Alonso's passing is greater than carricks, both when theyre at peak and consistently. Alonso probably best passer in the league (although I would never discount Scholesy)


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Oh my Liverpool/United team, lmfao. Really getting exclusive now. Lets do Barca/Real next and then the two Milans.

    look it was just a thing that's on match of the day not meant to be a slight on the other 8 teams in the league - seriously nothing meant here by this.
    get onto the bbc if you have beef.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Reinas distribution is among his best qualities, he has a few assists iirc. VDS kicking is quite poor is it not?

    In fairness that's just from going route one tbh :confused:

    I'd agree with the team in the OP anyways

    I'd have Reina ahead of VDS nowadays


  • Advertisement
  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Anderson Hollow Spike


    p_larkin99 wrote: »
    EZE why carrick over alonso. I think that theyre main function in the team would be due to their passing abilities. For me, Alonso's passing is greater than carricks, both when theyre at peak and consistently. Alonso probably best passer in the league (although I would never discount Scholesy)

    +1

    Carrick is a good player but Alonso is the best midfielder in England by a mile this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    eZe^ wrote: »
    You are also going to end the season trophyless, in comparison to Utd who already have 3... So it's pointless really...


    I'd go with;

    Reina

    ---O'Shea
    Vidic
    Rio
    Evra

    Mascherano

    Carrick
    Gerrard

    ----Ronaldo
    Torres
    Rooney----


    Tasty team, nicely balanced, Gerrard's goals/ leadership/ driver would make up for the fact that he doesn't really have the best dominance or reading of the game like the Pirlo's of the world...

    I like this team the best although personally I'd take Van Der Sar over Reina.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭eZe^


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Oh my Liverpool/United team, lmfao. Really getting exclusive now. Lets do Barca/Real next and then the two Milans.

    Sure...


    Casillas

    ----Alves
    Pique
    Puyol
    Ramos--

    Toure

    Iniesta
    Xavi

    Messi
    Henry
    Higuain----



    Cesar

    ---Maicon
    Chivu
    Samuel
    Janko----

    Cambiasso

    Stankovic
    Pirlo

    Kaka

    Pato
    Ibrahimovic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Dave! wrote: »
    In fairness that's just from going route one tbh :confused:

    Hoofing a ball vaguely up the pitch is very different from him looking up, seeing a player making a run an planting it on him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    mayordenis wrote: »
    Van der sar
    O' Shea
    Rio
    Vidic
    Evra

    Carrick
    Fletcher
    Ronaldo
    Rooney
    Gerrard

    Torres
    Frisbee wrote: »
    ========Reina========
    Brown=Vidic==Rio===Evra
    ====Alonso=Masch======
    Ronaldo==Gerrard==Rooney
    ========Torres========

    Looking at those 2 teams, I don't see why Carrick and Fletcher would be better.

    Seems everybody is agreed on the front 4 except Kuyt! :o

    Was thinking Vidic would be dodgy but then it was Nando who tore him apart, so have to go easy there.

    PS: Reina for No.1

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    K-9 wrote: »

    Seems everybody is agreed on the front 4 except Kuyt! :o

    Yep. If the better defensive record means the back 4 is O'Shea Vidic Ferdinand and Evra, the surely the front 4 should be Kuyt, Gerrard, Torres and Riera, no?:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Kuyt, despite having an amazing season, suffers the misfortune of having Ronaldo ahead of him in the pecking order, whatever people think about his as a person, leaving him out would be moronic.

    LOL at the person who picked Anderson ahead of Alonso :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    eZe^ wrote: »
    You are also going to end the season trophyless, in comparison to Utd who already have 3... So it's pointless really...


    I'd go with;

    Reina

    ---O'Shea
    Vidic
    Rio
    Evra

    Mascherano

    Carrick
    Gerrard

    ----Ronaldo
    Torres
    Rooney----


    Tasty team, nicely balanced, Gerrard's goals/ leadership/ driver would make up for the fact that he doesn't really have the best dominance or reading of the game like the Pirlo's of the world...

    Like that, but Alonso instead of Carrick?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭Ruskie4Rent



    Reina
    Arbeloa--Rio--Vidic--Evra
    Carrick--Alonso
    Ronaldo--Gerrard--Rooney
    Torres

    I'm not sure about arbeloa. Maybe J'OS, but more out of shock that he was so consistent when we needed him to be.
    Rafael rarely put a foot wrong either, had he been in the side more i might've chosen him.

    No mascherano because i don't think he's been too impressive this year. He probably would just edge it over Anderson, if only for ando's poor start to the season....doesn't matter either way 'cause carrick and alonso would be my dream pairing.

    Everyone else picks themselves IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭jenno86


    ========Reina========
    Carra=Vidic==Rio===Evra==
    ====Alonso=Masch======
    Ronaldo==Gerrard==Rooney
    ========Torres========


  • Advertisement
Advertisement