Sold privately?

Stevie Dakota

Has anyone done it recently? And if you've had a car for sale have you had any interest or calls? Is nothing selling privately or only at bargain basement prices.

Drummerboy08

What you trying to shift Stevie?

Stevie Dakota

Nothing yet, but have an estate that needs to become a 7 seater at some stage.

Megane 2006 1.5dci (106bhp) Dymanique with a few options. FRSH and dealer warranty until October 2009. Dealers on carzone want between 9 and 10K.

Drummerboy08

What mileage is on it? Mint condition?

Stevie Dakota

30K miles, UK car imported a 6 months old, mint condition (really).
Options are metalic, climate, 17" alloys and spilt opening rear hatch.
It is a Sport Tourer.

3ps

I sold my Alfa GTV 3.0 V6. Not exactly the easiest thing to sell in the current climate. Reason it sold was a) it was well maintained and had money spent on it and b) I priced it well.

Anything will sell if the price is right.

rustynutz

I sold a 406 coupe 2.2hdi a couple of weeks ago after about 6 months on the market,only sold in the end because it was well priced

Gumbo

i sold a 2005 D4D avensis with taxi plate there in March for 16k
loads of intrest in the taxi plate but only one intrested in the car so i had to latch onto him when he showed an intrest!

E39MSport

Stevie Dakota wrote: »

Has anyone done it recently? And if you've had a car for sale have you had any interest or calls? Is nothing selling privately or only at bargain basement prices.

I had mine up at a reasonable price for 6 weeks on line and a large add in 2 editions of hard copy and got one call from a messer....

Omcd

Anything that is seriously bargain basement will probably have people fighting over it, otherwise you could be in for a long wait for the phone to ring. I think you stand much more chance in this climate of getting rid of an old heap with some time left on the NCT than of getting rid of anything else.

cianclarke

See sig, selling seriously for about 3 months now. About three seperate people seriously interested - one viewing, no sale.
Another viewing on Saturday. My car is probably more second car territory for the most part, so harder to sell than most I figure...

Fredrick

Trying to sell this now for about 6 months:
http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=109556&cat=500

Got about 6 offers of trades for this, have recently reduced it to this ridiculous price and still no joy

Omcd

cianclarke wrote: »

See sig, selling seriously for about 3 months now. About three seperate people seriously interested - one viewing, no sale.
Another viewing on Saturday. My car is probably more second car territory for the most part, so harder to sell than most I figure...

But Cian, a 98 is an 11 year old car. You're asking 3,600 for it. You need to be in the hundreds to get rid of that.

Omcd

Stevie Dakota wrote: »

30K miles, UK car imported a 6 months old, mint condition (really).
Options are metalic, climate, 17" alloys and spilt opening rear hatch.
It is a Sport Tourer.

Split opening rear hatch ? On an estate ? Great idea, but I didn't think it was available on any estates. Had one on a 93 Civic and it was great for taking awkward loads.

cianclarke

Omcd wrote: »

But Cian, a 98 is an 11 year old car. You're asking 3,600 for it. You need to be in the hundreds to get rid of that.

To get rid of instantly probably yeah, but then I don't have the cash to come up to anything better. It's a convertible, and going on carzone/cbg/buyandsell/donedeal/carsireland prices it's the cheapest online by at least 2k.

fryup

Well i had my old Citroen ZX on the buy & sell and various websites for about three months.....and got just two ph calls and two text messages.

Was losing hope and thinking about scapping it, when out of the blue i get a phone call one sunday evening from an old chap down the country who expressed interest, he turned up the next day haggled a bit and bought it..straight cash deal > RESULT:)

all i can say to any of you trying to sell is...don't hold out...the first half decent offer you get..take it

L-M

Omcd wrote: »

But Cian, a 98 is an 11 year old car. You're asking 3,600 for it. You need to be in the hundreds to get rid of that.

I think that's a bit of an ignorant comment to be honest.

This is 98, is it only worth a few hundred?
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Car&carID=1348207&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Porsche%20911%2C%20Year%3A%201998.%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below.&CFID=142420795&CFTOKEN=48972030

Edit: @OP, price seems to offer a quick sale lately, although cheapest isn't always the best. I'd price it competitively against what you can import one for, and then the Irish prices. It doesn't need to be the cheapest to sell. A good spec, SH etc. will always help a car sell.

Matt Simis

Strangely I had more interest in the Phaeton when it was priced higher (currently at under 30k, madness people!). Doesnt really mean anything though. Got some decent offers, but all either too samey or IMO worth less than the Phaeton.

Its hard to value though, Im not sure if the asking price is an issue or not. I can accept not selling it and be happy with a trade of similar value anyhow, just to mix things up.

Omcd wrote: »

But Cian, a 98 is an 11 year old car. You're asking 3,600 for it. You need to be in the hundreds to get rid of that.

Are you sure you are on the right forum? All 11year old cars are worth the same yeah?

cianclarke

Thanks folks, was almost starting to believe I'd only be getting three figures... I mean still a possibility, but not that desperate yet!

E39MSport

rustynutz wrote: »

I sold a 406 coupe 2.2hdi a couple of weeks ago after about 6 months on the market,only sold in the end because it was well priced

6 months? Jeebus, that's a long time. Reading this post has encouraged to put mine back on the meerkat....

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Land-Rover/Range-Rover-Sport/HSE-TDV6/200920192810607/advert?channel=CARS

L-M

E39MSport wrote: »

6 months? Jeebus, that's a long time. Reading this post has encouraged to put mine back on the meerkat....

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Land-Rover/Range-Rover-Sport/HSE-TDV6/200920192810607/advert?channel=CARS

Strange, I was only looking at that there an hour ago. She hasn't got much extra (Ie. the exhaust and limo tint won't appeal to everyone) and the fact that your not offering a warranty, you'll have it on the market alot longer at 50k. There's a 08 on carzone for that money.

Kersh

I was thinking of putting the 300ZX TT and the XK8 up for sale, but really couldn be ar5ed cos I dont reckon anyone wants big thirsty cars that cost1200 and 1400 to tax.
I think it would be a waste of time tbh.

But it does seem some cars do shift.

Omcd

Limerick man wrote: »

I think that's a bit of an ignorant comment to be honest.

This is 98, is it only worth a few hundred?
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Car&carID=1348207&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Porsche%20911%2C%20Year%3A%201998.%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below.&CFID=142420795&CFTOKEN=48972030

Edit: @OP, price seems to offer a quick sale lately, although cheapest isn't always the best. I'd price it competitively against what you can import one for, and then the Irish prices. It doesn't need to be the cheapest to sell. A good spec, SH etc. will always help a car sell.

That's a Porsche, Limerick Man :rolleyes:

Are you suggesting that a Porsche Carrera might be comparable to a Saab 93 ?:p Yeah, throw a supercar into the debate - who's been watching too much Top Gear ?:p

Oh, what a hornets nest.

The car I commented on, and yes just from the 4 word detail 98 Saab 93 convertible, is a Saab, which is also a prestige make (although some might dispute this for starters), but not one that from what I have heard has a good reputation for troublefree longevity, so, generalising on any 11 year old example, in my opinion one might have to bank on the possibility of expensive repairs becoming necessary in the not too distant future not to mention general servicing, maintainence, and running costs would probably be on the high side due to the prestige nature of the model. There will always come a point in a cars life when it will need parts replaced in the suspension, transmission, etc, and at some stage it will start rusting. This particular car is an 11 year old car, which is in that window where these issues arise. That's a big turn off in what is the mother of all recessions, when people are very phobic of buying what could be potential trouble, unless its at a disposable price.

I dont know the condition of it, I haven't seen it, some parts replacement may have already been done on it. It may be completely pmo and pristine. As Cian said, he thinks he's in second car territory. If you go browsing on local authority websites for information about disposing of end of life vehicles, you may see it mentioned that a vehicle comes to the end of its life typically at 11 or 12 years. Yes I know in a lot of cases this is horsesh1t, but this is the way people think, and particularily in this recession the view of a 98 car (unless its a supercar such as a Porsche Carrera or something like that) for many people is something to be bought for either utility purposes (old Saab conv does not really fit in for that) or as a low cost runabout that they can keep for some months or up to year or to the NCT without maintaince and get rid of it after that to the scrap yard (has to priced for next to nothing for this).

To top it off it's an 11 year old convertible, I dont know the practical lifespan of a Saab 93 convertible roof, but its age would give me something to think about in the predominately wet climate we have.

All this for me, if I was selling it, would make me consider putting it up for no more than €950, and expect to get about €700 as no matter what you ask for it in this market to get genuinely interested buyers to turn up the chances are you will have to settle for even less to get a handshake. In a seriously buyer orientated market, just pricing it on what I needed to get to move on to the next would just result in frustration. The type of buyer who would buy a second car to have a blast in are thin on the ground presently, as money is thin on the ground, and those who still have it to splash around for this purpose are IMO more likely to go for the Porsche. If Cian is willing to wait a long time, which he has said subsequent to my original post he is, then yes he could keep it at a higher price and hope for someone to come along with their head in the clouds. I still think 3600 is very optimistic. If it were a Merc maybe, but it isn't. And it definitely isn't a Porsche Carrera.

At the end of the day, a car is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. If it won't sell at x price, then its not worth that. Now is not a good time.

I've had two selling experiences over the last couple of years. One which I started advertising, before the recession kicked in, at €11000 about €1000 below anything else on the websites, thinking that would shift it quickly. I had to knock a futher €3000 of it over the next three months to get that first interested phone call, who then did buy once he got a couple hundred euro off the then asking price. This time I decided to be realistic, started seriously low (relative to the few on Carzone, but close to the many in buy and sell), and I got rid of it within 36 hours, almost had people fighting over it. The phone is still ringing, again and again and again. That might mean I could have got more for it, but if I had advertised it at significantly more, would the phone have rung at all ? For me it was a space issue in the driveway, it had to go. Anyway, moral of the story, in the unlikely event anyone is still reading this far, is the prices advertised on the likes of Carzone and CBG appear to be totally unrealistic in terms of what people eventually get for the cars (there will of course be a few lucky exceptions) if they do sell at all. Look in buy and sell instead, they seem to be more realistic. And I think buyers think this as well.

Turning my cap around from seller to hypothetical prospective buyer, on the OPs post, the 06 Megane Tourer is a car I'd be very interested in, but unfortuately just not right now. Right car but wrong time for me. If I was buying now, I'd be thinking in around €7500 to €8500 for it in a private purchase. That's just my opinion, I'm not in the trade, nor linked to it in any way. I think being a 1.5 diesel with what practical motorists might consider some reasonable poke for its engine size (unless you're mesmerised with thoughts of 1998 Porsche Carreras), it would appeal to people with a long commute who need a reasonable size car but are having to cut back on costs. I think its a car that will sell relatively well in the current climate. As Limerick man says, a good service history is a good asset, there seems to be few decent cars around with proper verifiable service histories - I wouldn't buy without one.

L-M

Omcd wrote: »

Anyway, moral of the story, in the unlikely event anyone is still reading this far

I think you know it yourself, but that was a very long winded post. If I did have time, which I don't, I'd be able to shorten that post alot and still give across the same point. And no, I'm not stupid, a Porsche Carrera is not comparibel to a Saab 93. But what is comparible to those two cars, which is the year. That's the only reason I commented on your post, and the only reason I picked that Porsche to illustrate the fact that this,

But Cian, a 98 is an 11 year old car. You're asking 3,600 for it. You need to be in the hundreds to get rid of that.

is a completely irrelevant point. No matter how long winded you make your post, that comment makes no sense. I know a Saab 93 Convertible may be a hard seller. The fact that it's 11 years old does not make it worth €700. It's a car for a specialist buyer, it's not a car that some one is just going to stumble across while browsing. Some one is going to set out to buy a convertible car, within a budget and they'll have a list of cars that suits their criteria. I haven't seen Cian's car either, but that car would make €700 euro if it was wrote off and sold for parts, not to mind fully functional. IIRC, Cian has had the car for sale for the past number of months (ie. Winter), which isn't ideal for selling a a convertible car, and even more so with the weather we get. Summer coming, and a planned nice one at that, he could be lucky to find the right buyer. I'll eat my hat if that car sells for €700.

Now, to reiterate, I've no problem with your valuations, and you clearly missed the point of what I said.

But Cian, a 98 is an 11 year old car. You're asking 3,600 for it. You need to be in the hundreds to get rid of that.

. The part in bold is the part I was refering to, no more, no less. It's a very general comment, and clearly (in the event of the Porsche, or any other 98 car) does not automatically make it worth "in the hundreds". You could buy a 06 car that hasn't been serviced or looked after at all, and be in a worse position than if you bought an 11 year old car that has been fully serviced and well looked after.

I hope you've gotten my point.

cianclarke

Omcd wrote: »

That's a Porsche, Limerick Man :rolleyes:

Are you suggesting that a Porsche Carrera might be comparable to a Saab 93 ?:p Yeah, throw a supercar into the debate - who's been watching too much Top Gear ?:p

Oh, what a hornets nest.

The car I commented on, and yes just from the 4 word detail 98 Saab 93 convertible, is a Saab, which is also a prestige make (although some might dispute this for starters), but not one that from what I have heard has a good reputation for troublefree longevity, so, generalising on any 11 year old example, in my opinion one might have to bank on the possibility of expensive repairs becoming necessary in the not too distant future not to mention general servicing, maintainence, and running costs would probably be on the high side due to the prestige nature of the model. There will always come a point in a cars life when it will need parts replaced in the suspension, transmission, etc, and at some stage it will start rusting. This particular car is an 11 year old car, which is in that window where these issues arise. That's a big turn off in what is the mother of all recessions, when people are very phobic of buying what could be potential trouble, unless its at a disposable price.

I dont know the condition of it, I haven't seen it, some parts replacement may have already been done on it. It may be completely pmo and pristine. As Cian said, he thinks he's in second car territory. If you go browsing on local authority websites for information about disposing of end of life vehicles, you may see it mentioned that a vehicle comes to the end of its life typically at 11 or 12 years. Yes I know in a lot of cases this is horsesh1t, but this is the way people think, and particularily in this recession the view of a 98 car (unless its a supercar such as a Porsche Carrera or something like that) for many people is something to be bought for either utility purposes (old Saab conv does not really fit in for that) or as a low cost runabout that they can keep for some months or up to year or to the NCT without maintaince and get rid of it after that to the scrap yard (has to priced for next to nothing for this).

To top it off it's an 11 year old convertible, I dont know the practical lifespan of a Saab 93 convertible roof, but its age would give me something to think about in the predominately wet climate we have.

All this for me, if I was selling it, would make me consider putting it up for no more than €950, and expect to get about €700 as no matter what you ask for it in this market to get genuinely interested buyers to turn up the chances are you will have to settle for even less to get a handshake. In a seriously buyer orientated market, just pricing it on what I needed to get to move on to the next would just result in frustration. The type of buyer who would buy a second car to have a blast in are thin on the ground presently, as money is thin on the ground, and those who still have it to splash around for this purpose are IMO more likely to go for the Porsche. If Cian is willing to wait a long time, which he has said subsequent to my original post he is, then yes he could keep it at a higher price and hope for someone to come along with their head in the clouds. I still think 3600 is very optimistic. If it were a Merc maybe, but it isn't. And it definitely isn't a Porsche Carrera.

At the end of the day, a car is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. If it won't sell at x price, then its not worth that. Now is not a good time.

I've had two selling experiences over the last couple of years. One which I started advertising, before the recession kicked in, at €11000 about €1000 below anything else on the websites, thinking that would shift it quickly. I had to knock a futher €3000 of it over the next three months to get that first interested phone call, who then did buy once he got a couple hundred euro off the then asking price. This time I decided to be realistic, started seriously low (relative to the few on Carzone, but close to the many in buy and sell), and I got rid of it within 36 hours, almost had people fighting over it. The phone is still ringing, again and again and again. That might mean I could have got more for it, but if I had advertised it at significantly more, would the phone have rung at all ? For me it was a space issue in the driveway, it had to go. Anyway, moral of the story, in the unlikely event anyone is still reading this far, is the prices advertised on the likes of Carzone and CBG appear to be totally unrealistic in terms of what people eventually get for the cars (there will of course be a few lucky exceptions) if they do sell at all. Look in buy and sell instead, they seem to be more realistic. And I think buyers think this as well.

Turning my cap around from seller to hypothetical prospective buyer, on the OPs post, the 06 Megane Tourer is a car I'd be very interested in, but unfortuately just not right now. Right car but wrong time for me. If I was buying now, I'd be thinking in around €7500 to €8500 for it in a private purchase. That's just my opinion, I'm not in the trade, nor linked to it in any way. I think being a 1.5 diesel with what practical motorists might consider some reasonable poke for its engine size (unless you're mesmerised with thoughts of 1998 Porsche Carreras), it would appeal to people with a long commute who need a reasonable size car but are having to cut back on costs. I think its a car that will sell relatively well in the current climate. As Limerick man says, a good service history is a good asset, there seems to be few decent cars around with proper verifiable service histories - I wouldn't buy without one.

Dude... I know you're trying to help.. And your input is very much appreciated... but WAAY too much time on your hands.

E39MSport

Limerick man wrote: »

Strange, I was only looking at that there an hour ago. She hasn't got much extra (Ie. the exhaust and limo tint won't appeal to everyone) and the fact that your not offering a warranty, you'll have it on the market alot longer at 50k. There's a 08 on carzone for that money.

There's a couple of SE's for above 50 but I can't see any 08 HSE's for 50. I take your point though. I haven't sold it well enough either, forgot to mention the audio upgrade and a few other items.

K

Padraig Mor

Matt Simis wrote: »

Its hard to value though, Im not sure if the asking price is an issue or not.

The unfortunate fact is that a five year old 5L non-"premium brand" car is only going to ever appeal to an extremely niche market - although at the right price I'm sure anything will sell. (Note this is not a dig at your car - I think it's superb!).


My own is priced the cheapest in the country (including advertised imports! - although admittedly still a big wedge of cash) - only interest is from scammers.

Omcd

Limerick man wrote: »

And no, I'm not stupid, a Porsche Carrera is not comparibel to a Saab 93.

Ok I was jesting at the Porsche Saab comparison (can you see the similies? Maybe I'm illerate to the context these smilies should be used in).

Limerick man wrote: »

It's a very general comment, and clearly (in the event of the Porsche, or any other 98 car) does not automatically make it worth "in the hundreds".

Clearly, yes, so clear as to make it going without saying maybe ? :pac:

Limerick man wrote: »

is a completely irrelevant point. No matter how long winded you make your post, that comment makes no sense. I know a Saab 93 Convertible may be a hard seller. The fact that it's 11 years old does not make it worth €700. It's a car for a specialist buyer, it's not a car that some one is just going to stumble across while browsing. Some one is going to set out to buy a convertible car, within a budget and they'll have a list of cars that suits their criteria. I haven't seen Cian's car either, but that car would make €700 euro if it was wrote off and sold for parts, not to mind fully functional. IIRC, Cian has had the car for sale for the past number of months (ie. Winter), which isn't ideal for selling a a convertible car, and even more so with the weather we get. Summer coming, and a planned nice one at that, he could be lucky to find the right buyer. I'll eat my hat if that car sells for €700.

My original comment was in made in the context of my (mis)understanding he wanted to get rid of it quickly, I agree if he has the time then he could wait to get a higher price for the car. I was originally commenting in reply to his post, ie in the context of that car. I grant you the symantics would have been more contextually verifiable to have written an '11 year old Saab'.

Limerick man wrote: »

Now, to reiterate, I've no problem with your valuations

Oh, but I think you do...

Limerick man wrote: »

you clearly missed the point of what I said. The part in bold is the part I was refering to, no more, no less.

If you were specifically commenting on the context of a particular phrase pulled out of the rest of my original response to Cians response to my original post, then it would have been helpful to the context of your comment to have emboldened that phrase in your original response to my comment :pac:

Limerick man wrote: »

Summer coming, and a planned nice one at that

If that's a weather prediction, I'll believe that when I see it !

Limerick man wrote: »

You could buy a 06 car that hasn't been serviced or looked after at all, and be in a worse position than if you bought an 11 year old car that has been fully serviced and well looked after.

That is very very true. This is why I wouldn't buy without a verifiable service history.

Limerick man wrote: »

I hope you've gotten my point.

Yes.

Omcd

cianclarke wrote: »

Dude... I know you're trying to help.. And your input is very much appreciated... but WAAY too much time on your hands.

Yep, stuck in for a while Sorry to get stuck into your car over this contextual storm in a teacup. I really do hope you sell it for good money. It's just such a pity everything is so economically banjaxed right now. I had a good well maintained old car that I thought was worth €1500, but when you discover there's loads of them in buy and sell for €400 what can you do ? Yours is much more of a specialist car as Limerick man points out, but I really don't know if that helps it or hinders it at the present time.

cianclarke

Yeah, it's no doubt pretty tricky for anybody, especially something in a bit of a niché - thankfully I'm willing to hold on to it for as long as it takes, it's still an enjoyable drive..

L-M

E39MSport wrote: »

There's a couple of SE's for above 50 but I can't see any 08 HSE's for 50. I take your point though. I haven't sold it well enough either, forgot to mention the audio upgrade and a few other items.

K

What kinda of audio upgrade has it got?

Here's a HSE, all be it with a bit higher miles, but it doesn't warrant to be 10k cheaper. If I were you I'd take off the tint, or at least say in the add that the tint can be removed, and advertise it around 41.5k ono. to see do you get any bites.
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1059463

07 HSE's can be bought for similar money,
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1104846

L-M

Omcd wrote: »

If you were specifically commenting on the context of a particular phrase pulled out of the rest of my original response to Cians response to my original post, then it would have been helpful to the context of your comment to have emboldened that phrase in your original response to my comment :pac:

An example of how long winded you make your post, this is the same thing, and get's the same point across,

"If you had highlighted in bold, the part of my origional post you were refering to, it would have been helpful"

And that's even long winded.

Anywho, I think I made it fairly evident which part of your post I was refering to, as I said "That is a very general comment", and proceeded to refer to the year of the car, asking is it worth the same. This would in turn indicate that I was infact only refering your method of valuation, which seems to be from the first post, soley based on the year, rather than the car itself, hence where the Porsche comes in.

Matt Simis

Padraig Mor wrote: »

The unfortunate fact is that a five year old 5L non-"premium brand" car is only going to ever appeal to an extremely niche market - although at the right price I'm sure anything will sell. (Note this is not a dig at your car - I think it's superb!).


My own is priced the cheapest in the country (including advertised imports! - although admittedly still a big wedge of cash) - only interest is from scammers.

Yeah, if this was UK or USA it would be so much easier to sell (and buy) interesting (read niche!) cars. Its a great time to buy a car however, some serious deals out there, private and trade alike, but the whole concept of buying a car seems to be a bigger issue than the price of the car.

E39MSport

Limerick man wrote: »

What kinda of audio upgrade has it got?

Here's a HSE, all be it with a bit higher miles, but it doesn't warrant to be 10k cheaper. If I were you I'd take off the tint, or at least say in the add that the tint can be removed, and advertise it around 41.5k ono. to see do you get any bites.
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1059463

07 HSE's can be bought for similar money,
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1104846

Hi Limerick man,
The 07 is sold (great money though - you'd wonder whether it was genuine) and the 06 is manky. The Vogue wheels on mine are quite rare on the RRS also most of them don't have tint so it will fill a niche especially with the kahn system. There's other HSE bits that I haven't listed. It has the Harman Kardon premium upgrade. I'm not pushed to sell it just bored with it so will see what happens. I paid 70k for it in July 2008 so I don't plan on losing 40k through boredom...

Thanks for the pointers.

Cheers,
Ken

Ardent

Omcd wrote: »

That's a Porsche, Limerick Man :rolleyes:

Are you suggesting that a Porsche Carrera might be comparable to a Saab 93 ?:p Yeah, throw a supercar into the debate - who's been watching too much Top Gear ?:p

Oh, what a hornets nest.

The car I commented on, and yes just from the 4 word detail 98 Saab 93 convertible, is a Saab, which is also a prestige make (although some might dispute this for starters), but not one that from what I have heard has a good reputation for troublefree longevity, so, generalising on any 11 year old example, in my opinion one might have to bank on the possibility of expensive repairs becoming necessary in the not too distant future not to mention general servicing, maintainence, and running costs would probably be on the high side due to the prestige nature of the model. There will always come a point in a cars life when it will need parts replaced in the suspension, transmission, etc, and at some stage it will start rusting. This particular car is an 11 year old car, which is in that window where these issues arise. That's a big turn off in what is the mother of all recessions, when people are very phobic of buying what could be potential trouble, unless its at a disposable price.

I dont know the condition of it, I haven't seen it, some parts replacement may have already been done on it. It may be completely pmo and pristine. As Cian said, he thinks he's in second car territory. If you go browsing on local authority websites for information about disposing of end of life vehicles, you may see it mentioned that a vehicle comes to the end of its life typically at 11 or 12 years. Yes I know in a lot of cases this is horsesh1t, but this is the way people think, and particularily in this recession the view of a 98 car (unless its a supercar such as a Porsche Carrera or something like that) for many people is something to be bought for either utility purposes (old Saab conv does not really fit in for that) or as a low cost runabout that they can keep for some months or up to year or to the NCT without maintaince and get rid of it after that to the scrap yard (has to priced for next to nothing for this).

To top it off it's an 11 year old convertible, I dont know the practical lifespan of a Saab 93 convertible roof, but its age would give me something to think about in the predominately wet climate we have.

All this for me, if I was selling it, would make me consider putting it up for no more than €950, and expect to get about €700 as no matter what you ask for it in this market to get genuinely interested buyers to turn up the chances are you will have to settle for even less to get a handshake. In a seriously buyer orientated market, just pricing it on what I needed to get to move on to the next would just result in frustration. The type of buyer who would buy a second car to have a blast in are thin on the ground presently, as money is thin on the ground, and those who still have it to splash around for this purpose are IMO more likely to go for the Porsche. If Cian is willing to wait a long time, which he has said subsequent to my original post he is, then yes he could keep it at a higher price and hope for someone to come along with their head in the clouds. I still think 3600 is very optimistic. If it were a Merc maybe, but it isn't. And it definitely isn't a Porsche Carrera.

At the end of the day, a car is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. If it won't sell at x price, then its not worth that. Now is not a good time.

I've had two selling experiences over the last couple of years. One which I started advertising, before the recession kicked in, at €11000 about €1000 below anything else on the websites, thinking that would shift it quickly. I had to knock a futher €3000 of it over the next three months to get that first interested phone call, who then did buy once he got a couple hundred euro off the then asking price. This time I decided to be realistic, started seriously low (relative to the few on Carzone, but close to the many in buy and sell), and I got rid of it within 36 hours, almost had people fighting over it. The phone is still ringing, again and again and again. That might mean I could have got more for it, but if I had advertised it at significantly more, would the phone have rung at all ? For me it was a space issue in the driveway, it had to go. Anyway, moral of the story, in the unlikely event anyone is still reading this far, is the prices advertised on the likes of Carzone and CBG appear to be totally unrealistic in terms of what people eventually get for the cars (there will of course be a few lucky exceptions) if they do sell at all. Look in buy and sell instead, they seem to be more realistic. And I think buyers think this as well.

Turning my cap around from seller to hypothetical prospective buyer, on the OPs post, the 06 Megane Tourer is a car I'd be very interested in, but unfortuately just not right now. Right car but wrong time for me. If I was buying now, I'd be thinking in around €7500 to €8500 for it in a private purchase. That's just my opinion, I'm not in the trade, nor linked to it in any way. I think being a 1.5 diesel with what practical motorists might consider some reasonable poke for its engine size (unless you're mesmerised with thoughts of 1998 Porsche Carreras), it would appeal to people with a long commute who need a reasonable size car but are having to cut back on costs. I think its a car that will sell relatively well in the current climate. As Limerick man says, a good service history is a good asset, there seems to be few decent cars around with proper verifiable service histories - I wouldn't buy without one.

Good post. Lots of sound advice in there.

cianclarke

E39MSport wrote: »

Hi Limerick man,
The 07 is sold (great money though - you'd wonder whether it was genuine) and the 06 is manky. The Vogue wheels on mine are quite rare on the RRS also most of them don't have tint so it will fill a niche especially with the kahn system. There's other HSE bits that I haven't listed. It has the Harman Kardon premium upgrade. I'm not pushed to sell it just bored with it so will see what happens. I paid 70k for it in July 2008 so I don't plan on losing 40k through boredom...

Thanks for the pointers.

Cheers,
Ken

If it has the HK system and you don't have it listed you'd want yer head examined! Seriously, that's one of the things that really (in my eyes) gives one motor a huge edge over the other, those extra luxuries...
I know HK isn't great but it's better than the normal factory dirt.

L-M

E39MSport wrote: »

Hi Limerick man,
The 07 is sold (great money though - you'd wonder whether it was genuine) and the 06 is manky. The Vogue wheels on mine are quite rare on the RRS also most of them don't have tint so it will fill a niche especially with the kahn system. There's other HSE bits that I haven't listed. It has the Harman Kardon premium upgrade. I'm not pushed to sell it just bored with it so will see what happens. I paid 70k for it in July 2008 so I don't plan on losing 40k through boredom...

Thanks for the pointers.

Cheers,
Ken

The 07 is sold, sorry. But seriously, alot of people paid big money for there jeeps (and I think you may have paid a tad over the odds for yours). The vogue wheels may be quiet rare on the RRS, for one simple reason, no one put them on. IMO, they don't really suit the RRS, the HSE wheels for 06 look better on them. You may think the tint will fill a niche in the market, but it'll more than like turn off buyers rather than attract them, (and a removable tint can be gotten for 5-600). IIRC the HK system is standard on the SE's from 07/08 onwards. I'm not telling you to lower the price of your yoke, but you'll find it hard to sell it at 50k, in a private sale and not offering a warranty. I know a lad selling a very clean 06 SE with 20" wheels on it, and he's down to around 43k.

I'm just offering my advice, I hope you don't take it in the wrong way.

E39MSport

Limerick man wrote: »

The 07 is sold, sorry. But seriously, alot of people paid big money for there jeeps (and I think you may have paid a tad over the odds for yours). The vogue wheels may be quiet rare on the RRS, for one simple reason, no one put them on. IMO, they don't really suit the RRS, the HSE wheels for 06 look better on them. You may think the tint will fill a niche in the market, but it'll more than like turn off buyers rather than attract them, (and a removable tint can be gotten for 5-600). IIRC the HK system is standard on the SE's from 07/08 onwards. I'm not telling you to lower the price of your yoke, but you'll find it hard to sell it at 50k, in a private sale and not offering a warranty. I know a lad selling a very clean 06 SE with 20" wheels on it, and he's down to around 43k.

I'm just offering my advice, I hope you don't take it in the wrong way.

Taken as you've intended and with thanks ;-)

Actually, I've just lowered the price to 44,950 ono. See what happens. It had Kahn 22" wheels on it when I bought it but I swapped them for new Vogue's. I really like them. The 22's made it ride like a slammed hatch.
I've decided to rid myself of the bling trophy type cars and go for a nice inconspicuous muscle (not stereotypical American job) car that I don't have to worry where I park.

K

Omcd

Limerick man wrote: »

An example of how long winded you make your post, this is the same thing, and get's the same point across,

"If you had highlighted in bold, the part of my origional post you were refering to, it would have been helpful"

And that's even long winded.

Anywho, I think I made it fairly evident which part of your post I was refering to, as I said "That is a very general comment", and proceeded to refer to the year of the car, asking is it worth the same. This would in turn indicate that I was infact only refering your method of valuation, which seems to be from the first post, soley based on the year, rather than the car itself, hence where the Porsche comes in.

A long wind, or a long wind (tick tock, etc) Ok Limerick man, I've run out of hot air
If you'd had tryed to understand the context I was commenting in and said 'I don't agree with you' rather than 'That's ignorant' I wouldn't have been bothered. But, yes I can see how my bad phrasing lead to it all, so I'll be more careful next time. That's my last word on it.

L-M

E39MSport wrote: »

Taken as you've intended and with thanks ;-)

Actually, I've just lowered the price to 44,950 ono. See what happens. It had Kahn 22" wheels on it when I bought it but I swapped them for new Vogue's. I really like them. The 22's made it ride like a slammed hatch.
I've decided to rid myself of the bling trophy type cars and go for a nice inconspicuous muscle (not stereotypical American job) car that I don't have to worry where I park.

K

I was in a Chinese today and they had an AutoTrader from March, and what did I see for 55k on the first page? :P Aye the 22's can be very harsh on the ride, the max LR fit them with are 20's, and they're a very nice wheel at that. Take a picture of it with the air suspension and standard or max height as well. Car looks spotless though, credit to you. Best of luck with the sale!

Omcd wrote: »

A long wind, or a long wind (tick tock, etc) Ok Limerick man, I've run out of hot air
If you'd had tryed to understand the context I was commenting in and said 'I don't agree with you' rather than 'That's ignorant' I wouldn't have been bothered. But, yes I can see how my bad phrasing lead to it all, so I'll be more careful next time. That's my last word on it.

I meant ignorant as in not knowing. Your post came across as if any 11 year old car was worth in the hundreds. Anywho, not to worry, we'll leave it at that.

E39MSport

"I was in a Chinese today and they had an AutoTrader from March, and what did I see for 55k on the first page?" ....
...She's famous

Cheers Limerick Man !!!

Can't seem to move my Avensis either...even with the promise of new tyres. Was hoping to shift it this week as I have my eye on another one and am afraid it will be gone.

E39MSport

I just got offered 40 for the RRS - didn't accept...

daRobot

E39MSport wrote: »

I just got offered 40 for the RRS - didn't accept...

That was brave! Maybe a little too brave ...

E39MSport

I'm not being forced to sell so might as well wait it out a bit. The 6 week add is only a few days old.

L-M

E39MSport wrote: »

I'm not being forced to sell so might as well wait it out a bit. The 6 week add is only a few days old.

If you got 41k for it take it and run. You'll more than likely regret it in a few months time, prices are dropping on a weekly/forthnightly basis.

E39MSport

Do you think they'll bounce back Limerick Man? Not being cheeky but are you in the motor business?

frag4

sold a golf gti 2007 dsg 27k miles for 19k euro last week.
Trying to sell it for 10 weeks and only got 4 calls.
It was the cheapest in the country and cheaper then importing.
I thought I'd shift it no problem.

daRobot

frag4 wrote: »

sold a golf gti 2007 dsg 27k miles for 19k euro last week.
Trying to sell it for 10 weeks and only got 4 calls.
It was the cheapest in the country and cheaper then importing.
I thought I'd shift it no problem.

Nice price for the buyer!

What did you originally price it at?

frag4

20,500e and no calls so I matched a vw dealer with the same spec but with no DSG and it went eventually.
Sold it to a young lad who never even sat in one before, one spin and he loved it.

Matt Simis

daRobot wrote: »

Nice price for the buyer!

What did you originally price it at?

Looking at http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Volkswagen/Golf-GTi/2007?searchsource=browse&cacheBuster=1242725960728335 , its about 2-3k (22%) under the asking price there (except for the idiot looking for over 28k). Hefty, though not terrible for the seller.