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NASA's Secret Blue Beam Project

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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The falsification started with the film 2001: A Space Odessy, the TV-series STAR TREK, the STAR WARS films, E.T., all of which deal with space "invasion" and "protection". JURASSIC PARK, was to push the theory of evolution.

    But 2001 didn't have anything to do with invasion or protection, infact it was the complete opposite.

    And which Star Trek? DS9? Voyager?
    Enterprise was way too crap to be a NWO plot.

    And I don't think Jurassic Park once mentioned evolution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Undergod


    King Mob wrote: »
    But 2001 didn't have anything to do with invasion or protection, infact it was the complete opposite.

    And which Star Trek? DS9? Voyager?
    Enterprise was way too crap to be a NWO plot.

    And I don't think Jurassic Park once mentioned evolution.

    Voyager is easily the worst.
    As regards point 4 of the link, why would they need enabling technology to allow supernatural forces to travel through fibre optics and coaxial cables? Doesn't that make them a bit less supernatural?


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Undergod wrote: »
    Voyager is easily the worst.
    As regards point 4 of the link, why would they need enabling technology to allow supernatural forces to travel through fibre optics and coaxial cables? Doesn't that make them a bit less supernatural?

    Ah you see they're fake supernatural, as opposed to real supernatural which is fake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Gazza22


    Ridiculous post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Lads either try to make serious posts or dont post at all. Some peopel think they have to post on every thread in this forum ... even when they have notyhing to say!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    Pamela111 wrote: »
    The latest developments by the New World Order free masons:

    Operation Blue Beam:

    http://www.geocities.com/area51/Shadowlands/6583/project079.html

    Mind control, simulating UFOs etc.

    Do you know what MONTAUK is , its time travel , they changed our history .


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    espinolman wrote: »
    Do you know what MONTAUK is , its time travel , they changed our history .

    And how exactly do you know this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    King Mob wrote: »
    And how exactly do you know this?

    I'm guessing it's down to Charles Berlitz's 'The Philadelphia Experiment'. Cracking read.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kernel wrote: »
    I'm guessing it's down to Charles Berlitz's 'The Philadelphia Experiment'. Cracking read.

    And what evidence does this present for something that is absolutely ridiculous, essentially unknowable and arguably impossible like changing history.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    King Mob wrote: »
    And what evidence does this present for something that is absolutely ridiculous, essentially unknowable and arguably impossible like changing history.

    http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/385136/The-Philadelphia-Experiment/Product.html?cur=258

    €7.50 and free postage and you can answer that for yourself KM.


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kernel wrote: »
    http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/385136/The-Philadelphia-Experiment/Product.html?cur=258

    €7.50 and free postage and you can answer that for yourself KM.

    Why not just sum it up in a sentence or two?
    Witness testimony? Government documents? Crystal ball?

    Or do you just have to take the author's word for it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    King Mob wrote: »
    Why not just sum it up in a sentence or two?
    Witness testimony? Government documents? Crystal ball?

    Or do you just have to take the author's word for it?

    Because I can't remember, and why spend my time flipping through the book and regurgitating it to prove anything to anyone. The only claim I make is that it is a cracking read, if you want to prove or disprove it, I suggest you read the book yourself?


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kernel wrote: »
    Because I can't remember, and why spend my time flipping through the book and regurgitating it to prove anything to anyone. The only claim I make is that it is a cracking read, if you want to prove or disprove it, I suggest you read the book yourself?
    Unfortunately I don't have the cash to buy it.

    I asked what evidence there was to support the idea that history had been altered.
    You said that this book had such evidence.
    Why not give a rough outline?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    King Mob wrote: »
    And how exactly do you know this?

    It was confirmed by the Zenatae Andromedans :


    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/time_travel/esp_ciencia_timetravel19.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    King Mob wrote: »
    Unfortunately I don't have the cash to buy it.

    I asked what evidence there was to support the idea that history had been altered.
    You said that this book had such evidence.
    Why not give a rough outline?
    Well in fairness, he said it was a guess that it might have something to do with it, so no facts were claimed.

    Here's the wiki link for the basic outline of it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_experiment

    If nothing else, I enjoyed the movie about it.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    espinolman wrote: »
    Seriously?
    How do you know any of that is true?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    King Mob wrote: »
    I asked what evidence there was to support the idea that history had been altered.
    You said that this book had such evidence.
    Why not give a rough outline?

    I thought you asked how espinol man believed Montauk was responsible. The idea originally came from the book, I thought I'd be helpful and point that out to you. Didn't mention anything about evidence... Ah well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    humanji wrote: »
    Well in fairness, he said it was a guess that it might have something to do with it, so no facts were claimed.

    Here's the wiki link for the basic outline of it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_experiment

    If nothing else, I enjoyed the movie about it.

    Yeah it was good, but the book was a better read... more mysterious! :)


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kernel wrote: »
    I thought you asked how espinol man believed Montauk was responsible. The idea originally came from the book, I thought I'd be helpful and point that out to you. Didn't mention anything about evidence... Ah well.
    So does this book actually have any verifiable evidence then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    King Mob wrote: »
    Seriously?
    How do you know any of that is true?

    Well i have studied the montauk project and i understand how they could travel trough time .


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    espinolman wrote: »
    Well i have studied the montauk project and i understand how they could travel trough time .

    And care to elaborate? Or detail any verifiable evidence that would back up a claim like this?

    You realise how far fatched it is right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    King Mob wrote: »
    So does this book actually have any verifiable evidence then?

    I already said I can't remember. Why don't you read it? I refuse to believe you cannot afford €7.50 all in. That's less than the price of a pack of fags mate.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kernel wrote: »
    I already said I can't remember. Why don't you read it? I refuse to believe you cannot afford €7.50 all in. That's less than the price of a pack of fags mate.
    Because I'm a student and don't actually own a credit card.

    And I have a ton of other things I'd rather buy than a book on a conspiracy theory which probably has no supporting evidence.

    I asked you for something that would change my opinionon that and you can't provide it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    King Mob wrote: »
    And care to elaborate? Or detail any verifiable evidence that would back up a claim like this?

    You realise how far fatched it is right?

    I realize it is far fetched , i can't prove it , but how i know it is probably true is because the pleiadians have time-travel , you know the aliens with norweigan features from the pleiadies , well i know they are real because i can remember past-lives , i remember them .


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    espinolman wrote: »
    I realize it is far fetched , i can't prove it , but how i know it is probably true is because the pleiadians have time-travel , you know the aliens with norweigan features from the pleiadies , well i know they are real because i can remember past-lives , i remember them .

    And how do you know these are actual past lifes?
    How do you remember these past lifes?

    Have you considered, given you have no way of verifying any of these far fetched claims, that you might be wrong?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    King Mob wrote: »
    And how do you know these are actual past lifes?
    I don't know , actually i do try to forget , all that stuff that went on long ago , thats probably why people can't remember they are just sick of the **** that's been goin on.
    King Mob wrote: »
    How do you remember these past lifes?
    I don't know because i have never tried to remember , i just do you see .
    King Mob wrote: »
    Have you considered, given you have no way of verifying any of these far fetched claims, that you might be wrong?

    Yes i have considered i might be wrong , but that is not going to stop me researching .


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    espinolman wrote: »
    I don't know , actually i do try to forget , all that stuff that went on long ago , thats probably why people can't remember they are just sick of the **** that's been goin on.

    I don't know because i have never tried to remember , i just do you see .



    Yes i have considered i might be wrong , but that is not going to stop me researching .
    So how do you know they are past lifes then?

    And when you're researching why don't you find any verifiable evidence?
    Is it possible that people are wrong or lying?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    King Mob wrote: »
    So how do you know they are past lifes then?
    I don't want to get into a debate about this , but yea they are not really past lives because i never die , i am immortal .
    King Mob wrote: »
    And when you're researching why don't you find any verifiable evidence?
    I do don't i , did'nt i give a link to evidence of chemtrails a while ago .

    Is it possible that people are wrong or lying?[/quote]
    Yes it is possible , in fact i am always finding out people are wrong or lying and how i find out is to keep looking into things and keep researching.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    espinolman wrote: »
    I don't want to get into a debate about this , but yea they are not really past lives because i never die , i am immortal .
    I seriously doubt that.
    Have you any evidence to prove you're immortal?
    espinolman wrote: »
    I do don't i , did'nt i give a link to evidence of chemtrails a while ago .
    Not that I saw. Care to point out were?
    espinolman wrote: »
    Yes it is possible , in fact i am always finding out people are wrong or lying and how i find out is to keep looking into things and keep researching.
    So why exactly do you believe the information in the link you provided when it has no verifiable evidence?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    King Mob wrote: »
    I seriously doubt that.
    Have you any evidence to prove you're immortal?
    em, emm , i tell ye what i'll live forever and that will prove it.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    King Mob wrote: »
    Not that I saw. Care to point out were?

    Post no.73 here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055529412


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    Pamela111 wrote: »
    The latest developments by the New World Order free masons:

    Operation Blue Beam:

    http://www.geocities.com/area51/Shadowlands/6583/project079.html

    Mind control, simulating UFOs etc.

    You know , chemtrails could have something to do with operation blus beam , you see the electrical conductivity of the athmosphere is being increased by metalic particles believed to be in the composition of chemtrails .

    http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Chemtrails/Rainwater.html


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    espinolman wrote: »
    em, emm , i tell ye what i'll live forever and that will prove it.;)
    Well reality would tend to disagree with you there.
    espinolman wrote: »
    Ah yea.
    The usual ****e to be honest. Lots of claims but nothing to back them up.
    espinolman wrote: »
    You know , chemtrails could have something to do with operation blus beam , you see the electrical conductivity of the athmosphere is being increased by metalic particles believed to be in the composition of chemtrails .
    And how do you know chemtrails contain metallic particles?
    And what possible use would it have to put metallic particles in the sky just to have it fall down in rain?
    espinolman wrote: »
    Yea that experiment is absolutely useless.
    It doesn't exclude the possiblity that these particle come from somewhere else or are present in normal(non chemtrailed) rain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    King Mob wrote: »
    Well reality would tend to disagree with you there.

    Reincarnation and "past lives" are a well-established belief. espinolman has said he doesn't want to get into a debate on it.

    I would suggest that it be left here...he holds this belief, you don't, and he doesn't want to discuss it in detail here.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    If satillites already in orbit were to put on a computer comtrolled laser show, where would they get the power? Laser takes an awful lot of energy, and to try and make it visible from Earth would use some serious wattage!!! I doubt a few satillite solar arrays would be enough:P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    If satillites already in orbit were to put on a computer comtrolled laser show, where would they get the power? Laser takes an awful lot of energy, and to try and make it visible from Earth would use some serious wattage!!! I doubt a few satillite solar arrays would be enough:P

    They have free-energy
    http://www.geocities.com/area51/Shadowlands/6583/energy.html

    The technology they have is probably at least 50 years ahead of what is given to the public


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    espinolman wrote: »
    They have free-energy
    http://www.geocities.com/area51/Shadowlands/6583/energy.html

    The technology they have is probably at least 50 years ahead of what is given to the public

    No they don't. Free energy is impossible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    King Mob wrote: »
    And I have a ton of other things I'd rather buy than a book on a conspiracy theory which probably has no supporting evidence.

    Grand, but why not just say that from the off?
    King Mob wrote: »
    I asked you for something that would change my opinionon that and you can't provide it.

    I'm not here to change your opinion. I'm not bothered proving anything about The Philadephia Experiment. You wanted to know where espinolman got the idea about Montauk. I linked to a book. You don't want to read it because it 'probably' has no supporting evidence. Case closed, we'll move onto the next.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kernel wrote: »
    Grand, but why not just say that from the off?



    I'm not here to change your opinion. I'm not bothered proving anything about The Philadephia Experiment. You wanted to know where espinolman got the idea about Montauk. I linked to a book. You don't want to read it because it 'probably' has no supporting evidence. Case closed, we'll move onto the next.
    That's why I asked if there was any verifiable evidence contained in the book.
    Why would anyone bother buying a book of ridiculous unverifiable claims when there is so much of that available online for free?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭ilivetolearn


    King Mob wrote: »
    Why would anyone bother buying a book of ridiculous unverifiable claims

    An athiest would argue that the bible is a "book of ridiculous unverifiable claims" and yet plenty of folk seem happy to "bother buying" it. Last I checked both fiction and non-fiction genres seem to be selling in most major book stores. I just don't get your question. I think the guy was pointing out a commendable source rather than trying to sway your opinion.

    Personally I'm not too familiar with Blue Beam or chemtrails/contrails though I've heard that they may be related prior to this thread.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    King Mob wrote: »
    Why would anyone bother buying a book of ridiculous unverifiable claims when there is so much of that available online for free?

    I dunno...I have a book on String Theory which I quite enjoyed.

    There's many people would call the claims in it ridiculous, and they're certainly unverifiable...


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bonkey wrote: »
    I dunno...I have a book on String Theory which I quite enjoyed.

    There's many people would call the claims in it ridiculous, and they're certainly unverifiable...
    But there is some mathematical evidence supporting string theory.

    There's a bit of difference between a theory being investigated by actual scientists and the idea that the US government did time travel experiments in the 40's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭lynchie


    Pamela111 wrote: »
    The latest developments by the New World Order free masons:

    Operation Blue Beam:

    http://www.geocities.com/area51/Shadowlands/6583/project079.html

    Mind control, simulating UFOs etc.

    Latest developements

    http://www.geocities.com/area51/Shadowlands/6583/project079.html
    Page last updated at 24 February 2003 06:45:19. Over 6 years old :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭ilivetolearn


    Out of curiosity I searched Google for results for the past month with the keywords 'Project' and 'Bluebeam':

    Review the search here...

    Out of the first ten results:

    1 (the first result) redirects to some http://premiumlivescanv1.com scam.
    5 are videos.
    1 is an article for the UFO Digest.
    1 is a blog.
    1 is a list of podcasts.
    1 is a Yahoo! Answers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭ilivetolearn


    I've done a little research on the following videos though I’m neither advocating nor refuting the validity of their sources:

    VODPOD | Nasas Project Blue Beam NWO | Part 1 of 2
    VODPOD | Nasas Project Blue Beam NWO | Part 2 of 2

    Here is a synopsis of the four stages of Project Bluebeam that all lead to positioning the antichrist as ruler:
    1. Breakdown of all archaeological evidence. Artificially created earthquakes at the hands of the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) . New discoveries that prove current religions are wrong and misinterpreted.
    2. Elaborate ‘space show’ consisting of laser projected three-dimensional optical holograms and sounds. Images will be beamed to countries depending on their major religions.
    3. Telepathic electronic two-way communication where Extra Low Frequency (ELF), Very Low Frequency (VLF) and Low Frequency (LF) waves will reach the people of the earth via their brains. Each person will believe they are having an internal dialogue with their respective Gods.
    4. Universal supernatural manifestations using electronic means. There are three parts to this. First it will be used to lead mankind to believe that all major cities are about to be subject to alien invasion. This is to prompt all countries to deploy their nuclear weapons at the false enemy to render themselves in a state of disarmament before the United Nations. The second is to make Christians believe that the rapture is coming but that a divine intervention of an alleged ‘good’ alien against a brutal satanic attack is also coming. The goal is to get rid of all significant opposition to the New World Order (NWO). The third orientation is a combination of electronic and supernatural forces. The waves (frequencies) at that time will allow supernatural forces to travel through fibre optics cable, coaxial cable, electric and telephone lines in order to penetrate all electronic equipment and appliances that by then will all have a special microchip installed. Furthermore this deals with the materialization of satanic ghosts, spectres, and poltergeists all across the globe in order to push all populations to the edge of a wave of suicide, killing and permanent psychological disorder. Thereafter a ‘new messiah’ is ushered into re-establish peace even at the cost freedom.

    I also found the following bits of trivia interesting:
    • Serge Monast (international Free Press Canada) and another journalist died of heart attacks within weeks of researching Project Bluebeam and each did not have a history of heart disease.
    • Chris Morris and Janet Morris are experts in non-lethal weapon technology. They are consultants to the Defence Department, CIA and NSA. They maintain that no advances in technology are required to project three-dimensional images into a point in space. They discuss how life-like holograms could be used to divert the attention of the enemy in a military context. Angels, devils and UFO’s are used as examples.
    • On May 13th 2008 Jesuit Father Jose Funes, director of the Vatican Observatory came out with the statement ‘Aliens are our brothers’.
    • The video creator muses that even if this is fake it “would make a hell of a movie”.

    Though the technology is intriguing I’m personally a bit wary of the theory as a whole. Is seems too elaborate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    I really can't see why they don't make it into a film, its a great premise. It would attract so many demographics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    I really can't see why they don't make it into a film, its a great premise. It would attract so many demographics.


    Yes it sounds exactly like the premise for a film, strange that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭ilivetolearn


    meglome wrote: »
    Yes it sounds exactly like the premise for a film, strange that.

    It does seem like overkill for the eradication of religions.

    Anyone who believes in this theory should consider the current trajectory of Islamic religion:

    Video Link



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭54kroc


    I really can't see why they don't make it into a film, its a great premise. It would attract so many demographics.

    +1 deffo


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