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Evolution 1, Creationism 0.

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    #32
    Bottle_of_Smoke
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    Really surprised this isn't on BBC website.

    I thought this would be huge when it happened.


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    #33
    AtomicHorror
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    Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »
    Really surprised this isn't on BBC website.

    I thought this would be huge when it happened.

    It's a big deal, but it's not quite the origin of life question solved. They managed to synthesise two of the four RNA ribonucleotides (U and C) under plausible conditions which is pretty huge news, but not the end of the story. The publication itself is also a bit brief (a research letter to Nature) and will probably be followed by a more comprehensive work in a few months. My guess is, they caught wind of a competitor closing in on them so they rushed out a short form publication to retain novelty. I'm actually surprised more media outlets haven't jumped the gun and claimed abiogenesis has been proven, so I see the restraint as a positive.


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    #34
    kiffer
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    AtomicHorror wrote: »
    It's a big deal, but it's not quite the origin of life question solved. ... I'm actually surprised more media outlets haven't jumped the gun and claimed abiogenesis has been proven, so I see the restraint as a positive.

    They'll pull it out on a slow news day next week...
    My bet is it'll be in the Metro soon, they're usually about a day or two behind Fark.


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    #35
    Owen
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    kiffer wrote: »
    They'll pull it out on a slow news day next week...
    My bet is it'll be in the Metro soon, they're usually about a day or two behind Fark.

    And the back page of the examiner just copies and pastes anecdotal articles from Fark, so we'll probably see it there too.


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    #36
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    "Scientists Create Intelligent Life From Nothing".

    "Iona Institute Holds Prayer Vigil Against Morally Corrupt Scientists"

    "Just Add Electricity"

    5-foot-animated-frankensteins-monster.jpg


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    #37
    marco_polo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,077 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Can we come to your beers?



    Didn't someone post an article recently that he is now hiding in sub-atomic partickles?

    Current research indicates that his height is 99.99999999999999999% percent of the Planck length.


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    #38
    Galvasean
    Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    kiffer wrote: »
    They'll pull it out on a slow news day next week...
    My bet is it'll be in the Metro soon, they're usually about a day or two behind Fark.

    Just as long as they don't start the article with "boffins have..."

    *shudders*


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    #39
    dlofnep
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    Um, they did this years ago and are still unable to explain the leap from RNA to DNA.

    I would like to know how it happened however. It's a very interesting topic.


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    #40
    pts
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    We might have to update the score to 23,000,023,023,233 - 0.
    Scientists Discover Common Ancestor of Monkeys, Apes, and Humans


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    #41
    Genghiz Cohen
    Registered Users Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    pts wrote: »
    We might have to update the score to 23,000,023,023,233 - 0.
    Scientists Discover Common Ancestor of Monkeys, Apes, and Humans

    Snap


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    #42
    Zillah
    Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    So Lemur vs Tarsidae is the new Evolution vs Creationism, right?


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    #43
    Mark Hamill
    Registered Users Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭Mark Hamill


    pts wrote: »
    We might have to update the score to 23,000,023,023,233 - 0.
    Scientists Discover Common Ancestor of Monkeys, Apes, and Humans

    I think at this stage we can just say that the score is
    Evolution-Reality, Creationism-nil


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    #44
    Galvasean
    Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    pts wrote: »
    We might have to update the score to 23,000,023,023,233 - 0.
    Scientists Discover Common Ancestor of Monkeys, Apes, and Humans

    Awesome. I am off to repost taht in the palaeontology forum :)


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    #45
    Overblood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Overblood


    Jakkass wrote: »
    I don't see how this follows at all. I don't see how such a discovery would weaken the case for God at all.

    Well the mystery of life was your proof of a god not too long ago:
    Jakkass wrote: »
    I personally would love if atheists could answer me these things:

    2. How does one explain life coming from non-life?

    :pac:


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    #46
    sink
    Registered Users Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    Overblood wrote: »
    Well the mystery of life was your proof of a god not too long ago:



    :pac:

    :DThere has never been a better example of goal posts with legs in the history of this board. Caught red handed with his hand in the cookie jar. I can't wait to hear his excuse, I'm sure it's going to be brilliantly contrived as always.


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    #47
    Overblood
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    Yup.


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    #48
    AtomicHorror
    Registered Users Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    Overblood wrote: »
    Well the mystery of life was your proof of a god not too long ago:

    OhSnap.jpg


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    #49
    stevejazzx
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    robindch wrote: »
    In honor of this, shouldn't we rename him the "God of the gap"?

    ...or just 'God of nothing at all'.


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    #50
    Sam Vimes
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    sink wrote: »
    :DThere has never been a better example of goal posts with legs in the history of this board. Caught red handed with his hand in the cookie jar. I can't wait to hear his excuse, I'm sure it's going to be brilliantly contrived as always.

    /grabs popcorn

    /waits patiently for a response that will most likely never come :(


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    #51
    Soul Winner
    Registered Users Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭Soul Winner


    ned78 wrote: »
    http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/13/2112215

    Scientists have assembled RNA from a pseudo primordial soup - which is pretty much how evolutionists say life originated on earth. Nice.

    Wow! So that means that we are nothing more than mere matter which by means of billions of freakish accidental astronomical coincidences has (accidentally and with no purposes at all) been configured into its present pointless complexity in order that we, in our present pointless complex state, can safely say that creationism is wrong. Way to go!


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    #52
    pts
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    Soul Winner wrote: »
    Wow! So that means that we are nothing more than mere matter which by means of billions of freakish accidental astronomical coincidences has (accidentally and with no purposes at all) been configured into its present pointless complexity in order that we, in our present pointless complex state, can safely say that creationism is wrong. Way to go!

    facepalm.jpg

    You just don't get it.


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    #53
    Soul Winner
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    pts wrote: »
    facepalm.jpg

    You just don't get it.

    I know :confused:


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    #54
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Soul Winner wrote: »
    So that means that we are nothing more than mere matter
    Got it in one -- well done!


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    #55
    Galvasean
    Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Don't know about you guys, but I'm made up of SUPER-matter. :cool:


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    #56
    Borneo Fnctn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Borneo Fnctn


    Soul Winner wrote: »
    Wow! So that means that we are nothing more than mere matter

    Don't knock matter.


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    #57
    Overblood
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    Jakkass, where ya gone?


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    #58
    AtomicHorror
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    Overblood wrote: »
    Jakkass, where ya gone?

    Wherever J C went, I reckon.


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    #59
    kiffer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    AtomicHorror wrote: »
    Wherever J C went, I reckon.

    OH NOES IT'S THE RAPTURE!


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    #60
    Sam Vimes
    Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    robindch wrote: »
    Got it in one -- well done!

    Exactimaly. It might not be a comforting thought but the truth rarely is


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    #61
    Galvasean
    Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Overblood wrote: »
    Jakkass, where ya gone?

    After Hours.


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