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Ben Dunnes new internet venture

  • 12-05-2009 10:30am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    Anyone hear his personal Ad on the radio for his new net venture?

    www.tenderme.ie

    thoughts/critique?
    what do you think of the business model?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Heh, the site's been going for about 2 years now, it was set up by a guy I used to live beside. Obviously Ben sees something in it and has decided to jump on board. They're obviously relying on his name and his money to make it popular and then they can get that €3 per phone call from each tender. Could be a good money spinner if it becomes very popular.

    The original business model was a bit high-pitching; They were aiming for large government tenders and other such things. This scaled-down model looks better and is better suited for a recession economy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭Heisenberg.


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    seamus wrote: »
    Heh, the site's been going for about 2 years now, it was set up by a guy I used to live beside. Obviously Ben sees something in it and has decided to jump on board. They're obviously relying on his name and his money to make it popular and then they can get that €3 per phone call from each tender. Could be a good money spinner if it becomes very popular.

    The original business model was a bit high-pitching; They were aiming for large government tenders and other such things. This scaled-down model looks better and is better suited for a recession economy.


    ohhhh, interesting that. Thanks for the background to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭lecheile


    nice clean clear website and simple proposition. But like similar online ventures making money €3 a go, it takes time and momentum (and serious marketing euros) before getting reasonable volume.

    No better buachaill than Ben D to make noise about it. Not sure if many cleaners in Kilcrohane, West Cork are likely to be logging on regularly to find work though :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭RoadKillTs


    Think its a great idea and should do prity well through these times.
    Site is prity clean and clear aswell.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    Yep, have to agree with all that is said above, good idea and seems like the right man behind it (money and exposure).

    Probably will take a long time before it starts to make good money though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭amen


    do you know someone on "Kilcrohane, West Cork" ?
    not many from down there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭lecheile


    amen wrote: »
    do you know someone on "Kilcrohane, West Cork" ?
    not many from down there.
    no amen - just that the tender jumped out at me - someone looking for the cleaners of Kilcrohane to arise and respond to a big domestic cleaning job


  • Company Representative Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭TheCostumeShop.ie: Ronan


    Interesting site, seems to have a bit of traction already.

    Whats with Ben Dunnes interest in Internet companies the last few years - i'm not really seeing what he brings to the table. Obviously he brings lots of money and can make more noise than a four year old in a supermarket; but the interenet needs so much more than that.

    For example, offline noise doesnt translate as well as online noise for actual sales (Ben get a twitter account) and theres no point in getting all that attention untill they get the basics sorted on the site.

    Sorry but you might need to learn your new trade before it can take off, for example the SEO is awful on the site and make a phone call to pay??? Seriously??? Why wouldn't they just give the cusomers what they want and use a google adwords payment formula and also have a PayPal option.

    I do think it's a great idea, but they've left huge room to be upstaged by any web 2.0 entrepreneur. This will be an interesting one to see how it plays out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭byrne0f56789


    I like it. It's aimed at non-tech people who don't use elance or similar sites. I think the phone option is good given the target market. However, if Craigslist picks up in Ireland it could be a headache for them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,387 ✭✭✭EKRIUQ


    I think people are going to get a bit tired of replying to a tender for €3 a go. I think it would be better if they charged the people looking for the tender. Its like daft.ie charging people to reply to an advert. But it has a good business model and lots of potential especially if they work it like ebay with a feedback system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    How does it work are you meant to quote a cost of how much your willing to the job for from the brief description people have put up or do you just give your contact details when you applying for the tende does any1 know ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭DubTony


    Is that site really as busy as it seems. 72 tender requests in 24 hours. Seems like a lot to me.

    I'm getting a feeling of "Girls in your area want to meet you tonight. Text 55550 for only €3 a text"
    Has this gotten a lot of publicity lately?

    Somebody please tell me I'm wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Hookie had Big Ben on Newstalk this evening. I have to say Ben was in great form. Had a go at practically anyone Hookie brought up in the chat. Have a listen to the podcast that Newstalk are always boasting about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Mickk


    Typical Ben Dunne, all about the money, nothing about the service. He has cleverly structured it to make himself as rich as possible by basically exploiting the out of luck (mainly construction) workers. You would have more luck buying a load of lotto tickets with your redundancy money because you could win millions and atleast you KNOW there will be a lottery draw.

    I would put good money that he will have people working for him putting up fake ad's to get the site active. He had a load of fake profiles on boards where every single day they would post up "Hi, Ben Dunne has an offer at the moment for three people to join westpoint for 999, it's a wonderful offer I just need two more people to join with me, anyone interested send me a pm". It got so excessive every single post about any gym was banned apart from in one stiky.

    The funny thing is he wont even need to have people putting up fake ads, the competition, the spammers and the nigerian lottery will do that for him enough. All the while to get in contact with these pests, who usually pay good money to contact you, will cost you (the unemployed optimist looking for a bit of work) 3 euros. It's bad enough conning people into entering a competition to win a ferrari that doesn't exist, this is ten times worse.

    He should cop on, make a bit less money but do it properly. The person listing the ad pays the three euros, this eliminates the scammers, they will pay pennies but not euros. Allow people to reply for free for now till the site builds up a bit of momentum, then charge tradesmen a to register as accredited suppliers ect. The only problem with this is it works but it's a much less profitable model. It would work in a big market but Ireland wouldn't be big enough to sustain it.

    As the owner of the site:

    If you have 1000 genuine listings a month each paying 3 euro's and they get 10-20 responces each, thats not really worth getting out of bed for (or going on the radio for).

    If you have 5000-10000 free ad's looking for work to be done, and the same 1000 are genuine but you have just 5 responces per ad (down from 10-20 because they have to pay to respond), you have just increased your turnover by 2000% while your costs stay relatively unchanged. It's definitely worth getting out of bed for but it's a glorified scam...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Mickk wrote: »
    Typical Ben Dunne, all about the money, nothing about the service. He has cleverly structured it to make himself as rich as possible by basically exploiting the out of luck (mainly construction) workers. You would have more luck buying a load of lotto tickets with your redundancy money because you could win millions and atleast you KNOW there will be a lottery draw.

    I would put good money that he will have people working for him putting up fake ad's to get the site active. He had a load of fake profiles on boards where every single day they would post up "Hi, Ben Dunne has an offer at the moment for three people to join westpoint for 999, it's a wonderful offer I just need two more people to join with me, anyone interested send me a pm". It got so excessive every single post about any gym was banned apart from in one stiky.

    The funny thing is he wont even need to have people putting up fake ads, the competition, the spammers and the nigerian lottery will do that for him enough. All the while to get in contact with these pests, who usually pay good money to contact you, will cost you (the unemployed optimist looking for a bit of work) 3 euros. It's bad enough conning people into entering a competition to win a ferrari that doesn't exist, this is ten times worse.

    He should cop on, make a bit less money but do it properly. The person listing the ad pays the three euros, this eliminates the scammers, they will pay pennies but not euros. Allow people to reply for free for now till the site builds up a bit of momentum, then charge tradesmen a to register as accredited suppliers ect. The only problem with this is it works but it's a much less profitable model. It would work in a big market but Ireland wouldn't be big enough to sustain it.
    .

    Watch this space!! Myself and another boards man have had something like this in the pipeline for a quite a while which we are going to launch soon in Ireland. We think we have this concept down and our approach is more user friendly and sustainable for a number of reasons including all the things mick mentions here. Its some coincidence that his site has just launched like this!, but we think its great because the idea and concept is getting PR
    'd all over the place by Ben Dunne at the moment. Some healthy competition will be good for all! :D


  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Aydin Jealous Eyeliner


    Watch this space!! Myself and another boards man have had something like this in the pipeline for a quite a while which we are going to launch soon in Ireland. We think we have this concept down and our approach is more user friendly and sustainable for a number of reasons including all the things mick mentions here. Its some coincidence that his site has just launched like this!, but we think its great because the idea and concept is getting PR
    'd all over the place by Ben Dunne at the moment. Some healthy competition will be good for all! :D

    Safe to say you missed the boat tbh.
    Do you know how much radio ads cost and how much of his publicity has come from this.Just look at the last 24 hours.

    You would need deep pockets to promote something like this and even deeper ones if you want to try to compete with that arsehole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    Safe to say you missed the boat tbh.
    Do you know how much radio ads cost and how much of his publicity has come from this.Just look at the last 24 hours.

    You would need deep pockets to promote something like this and even deeper ones if you want to try to compete with that arsehole.


    +1,
    Agreed, I'm afraid you're too late and Big Ben has beat you to it. He's a household name (maybe for all the worng reasons;)) but Dunne has a hotline to Newstalk and the likes - theylove him, he's outspoken, was a bad boy,now good boy and part of a national dynasty - you'll do well to cast a shadow over him in getting profile for your site.:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    Mickk wrote: »
    Typical Ben Dunne, all about the money, nothing about the service. He has cleverly structured it to make himself as rich as possible by basically exploiting the out of luck (mainly construction) workers. You would have more luck buying a load of lotto tickets with your redundancy money because you could win millions and atleast you KNOW there will be a lottery draw.

    I would put good money that he will have people working for him putting up fake ad's to get the site active. He had a load of fake profiles on boards where every single day they would post up "Hi, Ben Dunne has an offer at the moment for three people to join westpoint for 999, it's a wonderful offer I just need two more people to join with me, anyone interested send me a pm". It got so excessive every single post about any gym was banned apart from in one stiky.

    The funny thing is he wont even need to have people putting up fake ads, the competition, the spammers and the nigerian lottery will do that for him enough. All the while to get in contact with these pests, who usually pay good money to contact you, will cost you (the unemployed optimist looking for a bit of work) 3 euros. It's bad enough conning people into entering a competition to win a ferrari that doesn't exist, this is ten times worse.

    He should cop on, make a bit less money but do it properly. The person listing the ad pays the three euros, this eliminates the scammers, they will pay pennies but not euros. Allow people to reply for free for now till the site builds up a bit of momentum, then charge tradesmen a to register as accredited suppliers ect. The only problem with this is it works but it's a much less profitable model. It would work in a big market but Ireland wouldn't be big enough to sustain it.

    As the owner of the site:

    If you have 1000 genuine listings a month each paying 3 euro's and they get 10-20 responces each, thats not really worth getting out of bed for (or going on the radio for).

    If you have 5000-10000 free ad's looking for work to be done, and the same 1000 are genuine but you have just 5 responces per ad (down from 10-20 because they have to pay to respond), you have just increased your turnover by 2000% while your costs stay relatively unchanged. It's definitely worth getting out of bed for but it's a glorified scam...

    right, so Ben Dunnes not on your xmas card list then Mick?:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭Pixelcraft


    agree with a lot of what Mickk has said. The site screams cheap almost bordering on exploitative. While Ben Dunne may be a successful business man, he really hasn't done much online at all. There are many different rules & conventions to make a successful online business.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    +1,
    Agreed, I'm afraid you're too late and Big Ben has beat you to it. He's a household name (maybe for all the worng reasons;)) but Dunne has a hotline to Newstalk and the likes - theylove him, he's outspoken, was a bad boy,now good boy and part of a national dynasty - you'll do well to cast a shadow over him in getting profile for your site.:(

    We shall see!! I see it more that he is laying out the carpet for us. Time will tell. When we launch it Ill put a post on boards and you guys can see the level of difference and it might change your mind....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Mickk


    right, so Ben Dunnes not on your xmas card list then Mick?:D

    Not unless the xmass card is ticking ;) I suppose it's because I don't really get trying to get as rich as possible, especially when it involves deceiving people who are alot less well off than you. It's not even about the money anymore, it's about his ego... He doesn't have a website between his 200,000 sq ft of gyms and he is jumping on this bandwagon so he can look clever like it was his idea. He is using a blunderbus approach to the advertising, you will hear about it on the radio but go on google looking for a builder or any other profession you wont find him.

    Best of luck el rifle, I don't think you have missed the boat. He will soon get sick of this and forget about it, I'd say he has spent 100k pushing this, that means by the time the phone company, overheads and the vat man get payed he will probably need 100,000 responses just to break even. That said he probably only owns half the company if it was someone else's idea which he jumped on board with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    We shall see!! I see it more that he is laying out the carpet for us. Time will tell. When we launch it Ill put a post on boards and you guys can see the level of difference and it might change your mind....

    ok, and the best of luck to you btw - what's your marketing plan so EL after Ben has done the ground work for you:D?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Atlas_IRL


    Watch this space!! Myself and another boards man have had something like this in the pipeline for a quite a while which we are going to launch soon in Ireland. We think we have this concept down and our approach is more user friendly and sustainable for a number of reasons including all the things mick mentions here. Its some coincidence that his site has just launched like this!, but we think its great because the idea and concept is getting PR
    'd all over the place by Ben Dunne at the moment. Some healthy competition will be good for all! :D

    Any idea on when your launching?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Atlas_IRL wrote: »
    Any idea on when your launching?

    Thanks for the support guys. I think you will all be pleasantly surprised when you see what we have. Im currently in Asia building a development but Im coming back in June specifically to launch this hopefully to get it to the market second week of june. Marketing and PR wise I want to use as many new, quirky and outside the box methods of getting our brand out there as possible to the public. I have good contacts in the media so I think we can do some interesting stuff
    One of my real estate partners said something interesting to me today - its too expensive to be first to the market. I think hes right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,387 ✭✭✭EKRIUQ


    Ben’s Big Ideas

    His own low cast supermarkets
    Nationwide franchise of Gyms
    Selling sandwiches for €1 each
    Nora Dunne art gallery
    www.BenDunneDirect.com
    Selling suits online
    Tender site

    If he didn’t start with a huge payout due to his mismanagement at Dunne’s Stores that lead to his sacking he’d be broke long ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭DubTony


    EKRIUQ wrote: »
    Ben’s Big Ideas

    His own low cast supermarkets
    Nationwide franchise of Gyms
    Selling sandwiches for €1 each
    Nora Dunne art gallery
    www.BenDunneDirect.com
    Selling suits online
    Tender site

    If he didn’t start with a huge payout due to his coke and hookers adventure in Florida that lead to his sacking he’d be broke long ago.

    Fixed your post. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Mickk


    Thanks for the support guys. I think you will all be pleasantly surprised when you see what we have. Im currently in Asia building a development but Im coming back in June specifically to launch this hopefully to get it to the market second week of june. Marketing and PR wise I want to use as many new, quirky and outside the box methods of getting our brand out there as possible to the public. I have good contacts in the media so I think we can do some interesting stuff
    One of my real estate partners said something interesting to me today - its too expensive to be first to the market. I think hes right.

    To be honest I wouldn't agree that being first to market is too expensive. Being the first mover has massive benefits if done right, look at daft.ie, carzone.ie or even boards.ie! I think Ben Dunne has done such a bad job he has done you a big favour.

    You sound like you are doing some interesting stuff, would you fancy "jumping in the well"? (If you don't know what this is I am not coming on to you, see here)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    EKRIUQ wrote: »
    Ben’s Big Ideas

    His own low cast supermarkets
    Nationwide franchise of Gyms
    Selling sandwiches for €1 each
    Nora Dunne art gallery
    www.BenDunneDirect.com
    Selling suits online
    Tender site

    If he didn’t start with a huge payout due to his mismanagement at Dunne’s Stores that lead to his sacking he’d be broke long ago.

    did he ever do the €1 sambo thing?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Qtellwebdesign


    I was hoping to post on this web site of ben dunne does anyone have the http for it i cant find the web site

    michael

    Qtellwebdesign


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Mickk wrote: »
    To be honest I wouldn't agree that being first to market is too expensive. Being the first mover has massive benefits if done right, look at daft.ie, carzone.ie or even boards.ie! I think Ben Dunne has done such a bad job he has done you a big favour.

    You sound like you are doing some interesting stuff, would you fancy "jumping in the well"? (If you don't know what this is I am not coming on to you, see here)

    Yes there are pro's and cons of course, I just like the fact that Ben is using the traditional methods of advertising that are very expensive right now. People will already know of the concept when we hit the market. Time will tell I suppose

    The well sounds interesting Ill give it a shot, - you've done very well for yourself mick I'm a big fan of health and fitness, I trained in unique physique every other day when i was in college, hardcore gym! Your lucky to be making cash at something thats your hobby as well!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    I was hoping to post on this web site of ben dunne does anyone have the http for it i cant find the web site

    michael

    Qtellwebdesign

    Try the url given in the first post of the thread :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    I have to laugh at all the slagging of Ben Dunne on this thread. I'm not necessarily a Ben Dunne fan but at least he has shown successful business acumen on more than one occasion, which incidentally is much more than most if not all the 'experts' commenting here can/have demonstrate(d). It is so Irish to see '1 man band/ 1 trick pony' operators lecture real business people.

    Leaving aside prejudice and whatever your views are about it/the man, the simple facts are that it is new and has quickly caught media and public exposure. Just wait and see the ME2 alternatives!

    I'd like to see the experts own examples of launching a 'new product or service'. Selling franchised sambos is hardly comparable.

    Some need to get a grip and temper their comments/posts with reality.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Mickk


    I have to laugh at all the slagging of Ben Dunne on this thread. I'm not necessarily a Ben Dunne fan but at least he has shown successful business acumen on more than one occasion, which incidentally is much more than most if not all the 'experts' commenting here can/have demonstrate(d). It is so Irish to see '1 man band/ 1 trick pony' operators lecture real business people.

    Leaving aside prejudice and whatever your views are about it/the man, the simple facts are that it is new and has quickly caught media and public exposure. Just wait and see the ME2 alternatives!

    I'd like to see the experts own examples of launching a 'new product or service'. Selling franchised sambos is hardly comparable.

    Some need to get a grip and temper their comments/posts with reality.:eek:

    Eh he was given over 100m sterling by his father's trust when he was a coke addict and general waster. His own sister offered him 1.5m a year just to stay away from the business because he made such bad decisions and was a general embarrassment. I could launch **** on a stick and throw 100k at advertising and you would hear about it, doesn't mean it would sell.

    Time will tell but here are a few examples already of how the site isn't working
    http://www.tenderme.ie/browse/categories/category/subcategory/view/?guid=5656f9eb-f83c-4e0d-8d9b-94e272bc9307
    http://www.tenderme.ie/browse/categories/category/subcategory/view/?guid=90be0ea7-a064-4673-bf27-6c71f60bb783
    http://www.tenderme.ie/browse/categories/category/subcategory/view/?guid=6f91ebc3-531b-4f60-a355-9c07a42c0a4d

    and if you go through a few pages of the tenders and look at the amount of replies, for his 50 or 100k euro worth of advertising, he would be lucky to have made 500 euro's back from the site yet.

    I am waiting for a patent on a brand new product and launching it in the states, I will put up a thread here and see how it goes. We will see what happens to his site (and gyms) in the mean time.

    Btw I don't really appreciate being called a one trick pony, I don't have a big operation with loads of staff but I have started two gyms, two shops and a website from scratch and I am in the process of setting up a manufacturing company here and moving into a big showroom/warehouse in Sandyford Ind Est for the website along with the product launch in the states down the road. I stayed in the same area because thats what I am good at and see no reason to move away from it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    Axwell wrote: »
    Try the url given in the first post of the thread :rolleyes:

    lol.........and he's a web designer:p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Atlas_IRL


    Mickk wrote: »
    Eh he was given over 100m sterling by his father's trust when he was a coke addict and general waster. His own sister offered him 1.5m a year just to stay away from the business because he made such bad decisions and was a general embarrassment. I could launch **** on a stick and throw 100k at advertising and you would hear about it, doesn't mean it would sell.

    Time will tell but here are a few examples already of how the site isn't working
    http://www.tenderme.ie/browse/categories/category/subcategory/view/?guid=5656f9eb-f83c-4e0d-8d9b-94e272bc9307
    http://www.tenderme.ie/browse/categories/category/subcategory/view/?guid=90be0ea7-a064-4673-bf27-6c71f60bb783
    http://www.tenderme.ie/browse/categories/category/subcategory/view/?guid=6f91ebc3-531b-4f60-a355-9c07a42c0a4d

    and if you go through a few pages of the tenders and look at the amount of replies, for his 50 or 100k euro worth of advertising, he would be lucky to have made 500 euro's back from the site yet.

    I am waiting for a patent on a brand new product and launching it in the states, I will put up a thread here and see how it goes. We will see what happens to his site (and gyms) in the mean time.

    Btw I don't really appreciate being called a one trick pony, I don't have a big operation with loads of staff but I have started two gyms, two shops and a website from scratch and I am in the process of setting up a manufacturing company here and moving into a big showroom/warehouse in Sandyford Ind Est for the website along with the product launch in the states down the road. I stayed in the same area because thats what I am good at and see no reason to move away from it.

    And he done it all leaving school at 16.


  • Company Representative Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭TheCostumeShop.ie: Ronan


    It is so Irish to see '1 man band/ 1 trick pony' operators lecture real business people.

    :eek:

    Sonnenblumen - What makes you think that all the people here are 1 man bands??

    Some people here really know what there talking about and some of us have massive business acumen and experience.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    I tendered for a job listed on this the other day to see how the process worked. No sooner had I paid my €3 to respond to an advertised job than I got an email saying that the job had been fulfilled and hopefully I was the lucky one who got it..

    Sounds suspicious to me that the min i pay the job was fulfilled and my €3 gone..coincidence maybe but I wont be paying again to find out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    Axwell wrote: »
    I tendered for a job listed on this the other day to see how the process worked. No sooner had I paid my €3 to respond to an advertised job than I got an email saying that the job had been fulfilled and hopefully I was the lucky one who got it..

    Sounds suspicious to me that the min i pay the job was fulfilled and my €3 gone..coincidence maybe but I wont be paying again to find out.

    ohhhh, and on the flip side, I posted a painting jobbie, and got an email saiyng I have a tender, logged in, but no tender to be seen:eek:
    all a bit messy - still, I'm sure they sort it.:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭honeymonster


    Axwell wrote: »
    I tendered for a job listed on this the other day to see how the process worked. No sooner had I paid my €3 to respond to an advertised job than I got an email saying that the job had been fulfilled and hopefully I was the lucky one who got it..

    Sounds suspicious to me that the min i pay the job was fulfilled and my €3 gone..coincidence maybe but I wont be paying again to find out.

    Same thing happened to me. Won't be using it again!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    Sonnenblumen - What makes you think that all the people here are 1 man bands??

    Some people here really know what there talking about and some of us have massive business acumen and experience.


    I was deliberately being non-specific. Some here are self confessed 'small operators' whilst others are thinking about may be starting a business and others might just be curious? The list goes on.

    I would expect people with good business acumen will recognise good business development practice when they see it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    Mickk wrote: »
    Eh he was given over 100m sterling by his father's trust when he was a coke addict and general waster. His own sister offered him 1.5m a year just to stay away from the business because he made such bad decisions and was a general embarrassment. I could launch **** on a stick and throw 100k at advertising and you would hear about it, doesn't mean it would sell.

    Time will tell but here are a few examples already of how the site isn't working
    http://www.tenderme.ie/browse/categories/category/subcategory/view/?guid=5656f9eb-f83c-4e0d-8d9b-94e272bc9307
    http://www.tenderme.ie/browse/categories/category/subcategory/view/?guid=90be0ea7-a064-4673-bf27-6c71f60bb783
    http://www.tenderme.ie/browse/categories/category/subcategory/view/?guid=6f91ebc3-531b-4f60-a355-9c07a42c0a4d

    and if you go through a few pages of the tenders and look at the amount of replies, for his 50 or 100k euro worth of advertising, he would be lucky to have made 500 euro's back from the site yet.

    I am waiting for a patent on a brand new product and launching it in the states, I will put up a thread here and see how it goes. We will see what happens to his site (and gyms) in the mean time.

    Btw I don't really appreciate being called a one trick pony, I don't have a big operation with loads of staff but I have started two gyms, two shops and a website from scratch and I am in the process of setting up a manufacturing company here and moving into a big showroom/warehouse in Sandyford Ind Est for the website along with the product launch in the states down the road. I stayed in the same area because thats what I am good at and see no reason to move away from it.


    Why do you think I was referring to you ? Anyways will you offer Ben Dunne an interview?:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 theaccountant


    what is with all the Dunne bashing ? He readily admits he has made stupid mistakes, but he puts his money where his mouth is, sounds like a few glitches to be ironed out in the site, but as an idea I think it is good and hope it works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Mickk


    Why do you think I was referring to you ? Anyways will you offer Ben Dunne an interview?:D

    I'm the one openly bashing him, I just have zero respect for him. It's all about his ego, you should see the fake testimonials on the site...

    I do have a bit of a grievance with the fact that he claims like he is the good guy, providing gyms at a good price. Did you know that he actually took away the heavy dumbbells in Westpoint about 6 months after it opened because he had too many lads lifting weights. The problem with them is that they keep coming back, he wants to make sure that the gym and wonderful membership offers are only suitable for people who will only use it a few times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Mickk


    what is with all the Dunne bashing ? He readily admits he has made stupid mistakes, but he puts his money where his mouth is, sounds like a few glitches to be ironed out in the site, but as an idea I think it is good and hope it works.


    We all know where he has put his big mouth but to me it looks like he would have been better just putting his (daddies) money in the bank. He got over £100m in 1993, The Sunday Times rich list puts his net worth at £131m in 2009 (after losses of 22m last year). At 4% in a savings account he would have £200m by now and that excludes whatever other assets he had before the buyout, not exactly a business genius :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Lorelei


    I emailed tender me to ask what was the way of getting further information about tenders (am in the cleaning business and for us it is fairly important to know size and what type of floor covering if nothing else) below the reply some days later after having sent a second email. I had asked for more information and received no answers.
    Kind of manic here, sorry for delay. The person receives an email asking them to add as much information as possible, eg. dates,times, measurements or any other relevant information, We are building a new version of the site which will allow you to select different questions from the tenderer, Thanks for your patience and apologies again for delay in replying.
    OK that seems fine, asked for information twice more, no answers. At this point I have tendered for 3 jobs and lost all. Dont know whats going on as my prices are some of the lowest around, I would have expected at least one positive response.
    So I set up a tender myself, when it came to me I entered request for further information none of the above was there, it was simply a box with the text shown below.
    Posted 2 Hours Ago
    3 bed house with upholstery in Dublin 2
    Additional Information
    Click here to add additional information to this tender.
    Enter the additional details below and click "Submit". The information you add will be shown at the end of the tender.
    The box was for the person to enter his/her answers except of course there are no questions posed (see above) and he/sh has no idea what information is required.
    Tenderme's initial answer that part in blocks and underlined is totally untrue. No wonder no one got back to me.
    Did those tenders that I sent go through? Now I'm starting to have my doubts, by the way I took my tender down immediately after checking the more info request.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭scull2009


    thought that looked interesting. had thought of an idea like that myself, dint know there was a site like that about, hope it works, dont like the sound of 3 euro a go, surely they could have adverising and go 1 euro a go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭IRE60


    I like the site! It's not a bad concept, perhaps the delivery could be a little better.

    I think in relation to people tendering and not getting replies, feedback etc on their bids, that will soon turn them off.

    On a lot of tendering sites the 'average' bid is published - which is not a bad idea (so long as there is nothing nefarious in the bids).

    I am also "reliably informed" that they will allow you to post an tender, before its vetted - properly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭Stupid_Private


    I got turned off it after getting no response from a few tenders. None of them had that many responses so it's not beyond reason that a simple curtosey mail be sent. If you don't know who has set them up and no one replies afterwards to you then there's no way of knowing if they're real tenders or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Atlas_IRL


    Ive been researching this business since last year and am close to launch a new 'tradesman' website. At the time Zumpty.ie and tenderme.com where not announced and the current ones we didnt like.
    I didnt say anything in this thread as El Rifle said he was launching at the same time we where supposed to so i was curious as to what they had. Our is a bit different. Our website is similiar to whocando.com.au and myhammer.co.uk

    We have taken the best features from the big players and hopefully it will be a success. A lot of the Irish Tradesman sites are just in essence directories, ours will be similiar to tenderme.com except we will use reverse auction on the bidding so the person looking to get work done will get great prices but does not necessarily have to pick the lowest one. It will introduce new features not currently in the Irish online service provider market. I will put a proper Thread up when we launch. To be honest if it was now i would not get into something like this as it seems a new one comes out every week but we are way to into it and at the time their was an open market. It is really only after i started reading this forum last year that i have got a bit obsessed in business and starting new businesses. Hopefully will have two by the end of the year. As i said i will put up a thread near the launch to let people know and get feedback. Positive and negative :)


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