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How do you feel about downloading music?

  • 08-05-2009 07:05PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭


    So how do you feel about downloading music without paying?
    Do you think it is a bad thing or do you agree with it?

    Obviously its illegal so no actual admittance please!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭li@mo


    So how do you feel about downloading music?
    Do you think it is a bad thing or do you agree with it?

    Obviously its illegal so no actual admittance please!


    You might want to add.....without paying........to your above post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭Jesus Juice


    li@mo wrote: »
    You might want to add.....without paying........to your above post
    Noted!:D


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,154 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Have never done it, despite having the technology, the free time, the interest in music, etc.

    I'm just too lazy to do it. I have no moral view on "illegal downloading" whatsoever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭norwegianwood


    i'm too poor to afford morals tbh....:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 klonere


    It depends really. I've been buying a lot of CDs off play.com recently. Trust me, if your passionate about your music, you'll appreciate the physical item in your hand, with the booklet and all. For some bands, like Porcupine Tree, a good stereo system and a CD is needed to truly get the full flavor of the album.
    I do mix it around with legal downloading on 7digital.com, which is an excellent site, very cheap and usually the highest quality (320kbps) is available.
    However I have torrent'd a few bands, to see if I like them. But I slowly replace the illegal copies with CDs or legal downloads. Recently I got the Meshuggah discography off torrent and have just ordered Catch 33 from play.com.
    I think the record industry really missed the boat, and I ain't one of those (as the infamous comment on the Pirate Bay sentencing Youtube goes) 'They want us to pay for ****...no one wants to pay money for **** no more'. But fighting it was a bad idea as it only reinforces the image of the 'corporate monster'. A combo of free downloads, cheaper CDs and downloads should probably do the trick.

    Although if they don't act fast, the money will dry up from records as more and more flock to torrents.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    Its my primary way of getting music and while I dont think what I'm doing is entirely fair to the artist, I'd imagine most of them would prefer that I listen to their music without paying for rather then not listen to it at all.

    I'd like to make it clear that I LOVE buying CDs, but I really dont have the money (There was a time where I spent all my money on CDs *looks at 150 or so on my shelf* but now I just dont have the money considering the amount that I listen to).

    I'd much prefer to support the artist in a direct way, ie going to a gig, buying a tshirt from them, that's what pays the rent, not the piddly royalties they get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    Fad wrote: »
    Its my primary way of getting music and while I dont think what I'm doing is entirely fair to the artist, I'd imagine most of them would prefer that I listen to their music without paying for rather then not listen to it at all.

    I'd like to make it clear that I LOVE buying CDs, but I really dont have the money (There was a time where I spent all my money on CDs *looks at 150 or so on my shelf* but now I just dont have the money considering the amount that I listen to).

    I'd much prefer to support the artist in a direct way, ie going to a gig, buying a tshirt from them, that's what pays the rent, not the piddly royalties they get.

    Artists don't make most of their money through CD sales that would be the label, they'd mostly make their money through touring. If torrent enables a much larger audience for to listen to your music and thus enables you to sell out a venue when you tour then it would be worth it. Still the arugment will always be that 20 quid for a CD that could be poor and having to pay in excess of 80 quid for concert tickets is just way overpriced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭punk_one82


    Personally I find that illegal downloading of music is a gateway to music that would otherwise go unheard. For example, if I heard a certain artist being mentioned, I wouldn't go out and buy an album to check them out in fear of wasting the small amount of money that I have, but I would consider downloading an album. Then if I like what I hear, I'll have absolutely no problem going out and spending my money on their entire discography, including the downloaded album and then going out and spending a fortune on tickets to see them live. I love having a physical copy of a record and the wee booklet etc. On the subject of morals, I feel that no one should get all their music illegally from the internet. It's not fair to the artist. I couldn't give a **** about the record labels, but however small the royalties the artist get, I still don't feel that they should be cheated out of them. It is their music after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    Stev_o wrote: »
    Artists don't make most of their money through CD sales that would be the label, they'd mostly make their money through touring. If torrent enables a much larger audience for to listen to your music and thus enables you to sell out a venue when you tour then it would be worth it. Still the arugment will always be that 20 quid for a CD that could be poor and having to pay in excess of 80 quid for concert tickets is just way overpriced.

    Really dont go to many big gigs, so extortionate ticket price isnt a huge issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 862 ✭✭✭cautioner


    I download stuff occasionally, but I'll always prefer buying CDs. For example, IF I had illegally downloaded, say, I don't know, 10 or so tracks from, oh, Frightened Rabbit's album The Midnight Organ Fight (which is, hypothetically speaking, F*CKIN CLASS), I'd still want to buy the actual CD.

    They're not horribly expensive nowadays anyway, most albums can be found for under a tenner or so on amazon.co.uk. I'd never dream of buying a CD in Ireland though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    I download a bit but still regularly buy cds (finally hit the 300 mark) if I enjoy the band and I never turn down a good gig :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    I don't really care one way or another, I don't download music becausxe I can't figure out torrents and my laptop is slowly running out of space, also I don't want to get stung for downloading illegally (though I do use the neighbours wireless as it's better than ours). I get my warez (rarely music, mainly films and tv shows) from my boyfriend; I bring my harddrive to his house every so often and just say what I'd like (looking at his server is like being in a sweetshop). While I don't have a problem with illegal downloading I really hate the attitude that some people have, some people seem to think they have a God given right to free media and feel outraged that corporate bodies are attempting to prevent them from doing so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,878 ✭✭✭Rozabeez


    I honestly don't know how to do it, my older brother reckons I'll make the computer explode if I try....and I like cds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    Piste wrote: »
    While I don't have a problem with illegal downloading I really hate the attitude that some people have, some people seem to think they have a God given right to free media and feel outraged that corporate bodies are attempting to prevent them from doing so.


    I agree with you there, but I really think the IRMA and Eircom are really going about things the wrong way!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,326 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Always prefer having the cd. Use youtube to get into bands if needs be, or myspace. Only stuff I download are rare songs by QotSA or Muse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭tatabubbly


    I love the fact that you can download :)

    It's fab plus as a student money simply isn't there to go buying things like cds...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    tatabubbly wrote: »
    I love the fact that you can download :)

    It's fab plus as a student money simply isn't there to go buying things like cds...
    Ye always seem to have it for booze though:pac:
    Feckin students


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭tatabubbly


    I found a really cheap off-licence :P

    But downloading is fun! I like the fact it's illegal!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭conorlechance


    definetly would go out and buy an irish acts album if i liked their music, most of the time another european singer/band i like and rarely would i buy an american album or cd.

    the way i see it the americans have cultural domination so they have an advantage which acts don't have here in ireland/ europe on a grand scale, well for the most part.

    the thing is though i just use my ipod now, and the effort of transferring music from cd to ipod is far greater than just downloading.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭tatabubbly


    Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside...

    It's cos it's illegeal... it's that feeling you get when your doing something you know you shouldn't be doing but he he he it's funny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    tatabubbly wrote: »
    It's cos it's illegeal... it's that feeling you get when your doing something you know you shouldn't be doing but he he he it's funny

    yup...I'm such a giant geek that downloading music from t'internets is how I get my kicks.

    Great.:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭tatabubbly


    yup...I'm such a giant geek that downloading music from t'internets is how I get my kicks.

    Great.:cool:


    I didn't mean to offend! Sorry!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    yup...I'm such a giant geek that downloading music from t'internets is how I get my kicks.

    Great.:cool:
    Music?!

    You're using that as a code word, right?! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    ........no......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭marko91


    i always downlaod songs and albums free:pif i want it on cd ill just burn the songs onto cd....why pay?so i can have a case and a nice sticker on my cd?...no thanks:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭gman2k


    Back in the 'day', we used to have double tape decks, and blank tapes was where it was at. You'd rarely see anyone carrying around original cassettes.
    Nothing has changed. (Only you don't have to wait till your mate next door gets the album now)
    Don't really want stacks of cds taking up space/ gathering dust on a shelf in the gaff now, so forget about cases/ booklets etc etc.
    I've never used torrents or itunes, just other means....


  • Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I feel damn good about downloading music: I haven't bought a CD (or a DVD for that matter) in over four years. It's a no-brainer for me: Why purchase music when it's freely available? I know, you could take the moral high-ground and say that you're supporting the artists and what not; but, they can support themselves. Long live music downloads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭marko91


    I feel damn good about downloading music: I haven't bought a CD (or a DVD for that matter) in over four years. It's a no-brainer for me: Why purchase music when it's freely available? I know, you could take the moral high-ground and say that you're supporting the artists and what not; but, they can support themselves. Long live music downloads.


    couldnt have put it better myseld:p although when i get my HDTV ill buy blurays for my ps3 cos it would take TOOOOOOOOOOOOO long to download blurays and the transfer them to ps3


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    I couldn't care less

    Dear Mr Internet,
    Thank you very much for free music, movies and games.
    FI.


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