What are we not supposed to know about ?

espinolman

What do the illuminati controllers of the world not want us to find out about ?

Want do they not want us to discuss in forums like this ?

What do they not want us researching ?

I think they don't want us finding out about psychotronics technology and free energy to name just two but if you know other things they don't want us finding out about then please mention whatever it is in this thread .

So i would suggest listing whatever you think it is here and then of course the thing to do is research these things and discuss them in this forum and to hell with the NWO .

Things we are finding out on the internet or other sources but that we are not hearing about from the mass media such as newspapers , radio , magazines' and television news , now if you are not hearing about it from the mass media this would indicate it might be something we are not supposed to know about , for example chemtrails , well i'm not hearing anything really about that from the mainstream/mass media .

I think it would be good if posters would post here what they think we are not supposed to know about , and then anyone who wants to can look into and research those subjects to see if there is anything to it , my whole idea with this thread is to assist in uncovering conspiracies' .

Anything you think might be hidden , post here about it , you know hidden knowledge or anything you think they are trying to hide from us

demakinz

fluoride in the water system..isnt this toxic.just read the back of your toothpaste.

Penn

espinolman wrote: »

What do the illuminati controllers of the world not want us to find out about ?

The fact that they exist perhaps?

They should have done a better job with that one

Diogenes

Solent Green is made out of people!

Sofa_King Good

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

The fact that they exist perhaps?

They should have done a better job with that one

1. There existence is documented
2. This is a CT discussion forum. So why not let him be and discuss you know conpiracy theories.?

Undergod

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

1. There existence is documented
2. This is a CT discussion forum. So why not let him be and discuss you know conpiracy theories.?

Whose existence is documented? Not trying to be argumentative here, just curious as to who you mean.

It makes sense that conspiracies will happen- people in power are going to come to agreements with each other to ensure they stay in power.

There's a lot goes on we don't know about, sometimes it's stuff hidden in plain sight or stuff that is public knowledge but done discreetly so no-one really notices. And I mean things like Watergate happened, that's plain fact.

That said, I don't buy there being an NWO group that controls the world, too many different countries adhere to different ideologies, this is not an efficient way to run a planet, and I can see no benefit to it.

Penn

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

1. There existence is documented
2. This is a CT discussion forum. So why not let him be and discuss you know conpiracy theories.?

1. Harry Potter is documented. If the "Illuminati controllers of the world" do exist, then how come it is not common knowledge. Documentation is not proof, it is evidence. And I have yet to see proof that there is an NWO. I asked for it before in a previous thread and was given nothing but snide comments.

2. I'm not trying to stop him, all I'm saying is that his argument is flawed. If the NWO are so powerful, then we wouldn't know what they don't want us to know. If we are talking about things that they don't want us to know about, then surely the very first thing that they don't want us to know about is the fact that they exist and don't want us to know, y'know? If they really do control the media and look at forums such as this then quite frankly they are idiots. How could we possibly research what they don't want us to know if they control everything already?


I agree, lets discuss conspiracy theories. The conspiracy theory I was discussing was that there is no NWO.

Undergod

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

I agree, lets discuss conspiracy theories. The conspiracy theory I was discussing was that there is no NWO.

Though for this to be a conspiracy theory, there'd have to be some definite group secretly trying to convince us there is an NWO.

Alternative media?
A group intent on destabilizing and ultimately bringing down western civilization?

And then we kinda end up with the same issues as before.

paddyirishman85

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

2. I'm not trying to stop him, all I'm saying is that his argument is flawed. If the NWO are so powerful, then we wouldn't know what they don't want us to know. If we are talking about things that they don't want us to know about, then surely the very first thing that they don't want us to know about is the fact that they exist and don't want us to know, y'know? If they really do control the media and look at forums such as this then quite frankly they are idiots. How could we possibly research what they don't want us to know if they control everything already?.

You see, they let forums like this run because they get paid disinfo agents like you and me to tie up the conspiracy theorists with NWO traps like asking evidence and using logic.

Penn

King Mob wrote: »

You see, they let forums like this run because they get paid disinfo agents like you and me to tie up the conspiracy theorists with NWO traps like asking evidence and using logic.

Oh, ok then. So they are real. Wait... no... I mean they're not real. Wait... what?

paddyirishman85

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

Oh, ok then. So they are real. Wait... no... I mean they're not real. Wait... what?

Oops, I've said too much.

Sofa_King Good

Undergod wrote: »

Whose existence is documented? Not trying to be argumentative here, just curious as to who you mean.

This a from a Freemason's site
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/illuminati.html

KM & Paddy, this is for you
http://illuminati-order.com/join.html

Undergod wrote: »

That said, I don't buy there being an NWO group that controls the world, too many different countries adhere to different ideologies, this is not an efficient way to run a planet, and I can see no benefit to it.

I'd tend to agree. This is in the Obama administration alone.

Four factions are fighting:


The Defense faction, led by Brent Scowcroft, Generals opposing Rumsfeld and, of course, Robert Gates who is now the real boss in Washington. They advocate ending the armies’ privatization, and pulling-out "honorably" from Iraq but pursuing the US effort in Afghanistan to avoid giving the impression of a rout, and finally reaching an agreement with Iran and Syria. According to them, Russia and China are still considered rivals that must be singled out and neutralized. They consider the financial crisis as a war where they are going to lose military programs and scale down the size of the armies but they must preserve a relative superiority. Losing power doesn’t matter if they remain the strongest.


The Treasury and the Department of Commerce are led by Geithner and Paul Volcker, the Rockefeller protégés. They come from the Pilgrim’s Society and have the support of the Group of Thirty, the Peterson Institute and the Trilateral Committee. They’re backed by Queen Elizabeth II and want to save both Wall Street and the City. For them, the crisis is a heavy blow since the finance oligarchy revenues are in free fall, but above all it’s a unique opportunity to concentrate capital and to trample the resistance to globalization underfoot. They must spend less for a while in order to avoid social revolutions, but they can grow richer by buying back industrial jewels for next to nothing. In the long term they plan to establish - not a worldwide tax on the right to breathe, it would be obvious - but a worldwide tax on CO2 and a spot market in CO2 emission rights - which is roughly the same while hiding behind an ecological gloss. Unlike the Pentagon, they push for an alliance with China, in particular because it owns 40% of the US Treasury bonds, but also to prevent the rise of a Far East economic block centered on China and draining raw materials from Africa.


The Department of State faction is led by Hillary Clinton, a fundamentalist Christian, and a member of a very secret cult called the Fellowship Foundation (a.k.a "The" Family). This is the Zionist refuge, the ultimate preserve for the endangered neo-con species. They push for unconditional support to Israël, with a touch of realism because they know the situation has changed. It won’t be possible to bomb Lebanon like in 2006, because the Hezbollah now owns efficient anti-aircraft weapons. Invading Gaza as in 2008 won’t be possible anymore because the Hamas has purchased Kornet anti-tank missiles. And if the United States has difficulties funding Tel-Aviv, it’s unlikely that Saudis will make it up for long. Therefore, they must gain time, by making some concessions if required, and find a strategic purpose to Israël.
Ms. Clinton’s main mission is to improve the image of the United States, no longer through public relations (i.e., in justifying Washington policies) but rather through advertising (i.e., in promoting the real or imaginary qualities of the US model). In this context, the Zionists will likely push for the Korbel-Albright-Rice project aiming at transforming the UN into a large impotent forum and creating a competing organization: the Community of Democracies backed by NATO, its armed wing. So far, they are busy sabotaging the Durban II conference which, instead of celebrating the "only democracy in the Middle East", denounces the apartheid regime of Tel-Aviv. Like James Steinberg, the Vice Secretary of State, they consider the financial crisis as a blitzkrieg. There’s going to be a lot of breakage, but it’s the right time to destroy rivals and grab some control levers. Their aim is not to get richer through mergers and acquisitions but to impose their men in the Ministries of Finance and at the head of the banking institutions all around the world.


Finally, the National Security Council is under the influence of Zbigniew Brzezinski, Obama’s teacher at Columbia. It should drop its usual coordination role to become a real center of command. It’s led by General Jones who has been a NATO Supreme Commander and who nurtured the Africa Command. For them, the financial crisis is a crisis of the imperial strategy. It’s the astronomical debt required to fund the Iraq war that triggered the economic collapse of the United States. Unlike 1929, war won’t be the solution, war is the problem. Three aims must be pursued simultaneously: force the money back into the US by destroying the competing foreign tax havens and destabilizing the economies of the developed countries (as tested in Greece); maintain the illusion of the US military power in pursuing the occupation of Afghanistan; and obliterate the emerging alliances between Syria, Iran and China and especially between Russia and China (Shanghai Cooperation Organization). The Council will favor all forms of clandestine actions to give the Pentagon enough time for its reorganization.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article159907.html

Sofa_King Good

This

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

1. Harry Potter is documented. If the "Illuminati controllers of the world" do exist, then how come it is not common knowledge.

Contradicts this

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

If the NWO are so powerful, then we wouldn't know what they don't want us to know.

It is easy to poke fun at people who don't see the world your way from behind a keyboard but whats the point?

It is also easy to enter a Conspiracy Theory forum with demands of proof and feel superior when you don't get any.

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

You see, they let forums like this run because they get paid disinfo agents like you and me to tie up the conspiracy theorists with NWO traps like asking evidence and using logic.

Do you see yourself and PaddyIrishman as being somehow different (better) from other posters?

zenno

they don't want us to know about antigravity propulsion systems either. according to ex us military personel the us military has covert black budgets going towards this antigravity propulsion technology which these top military scientists of the u.s have supposedly been working on since the early 70's and have supposedly accomplished this today. the nasa seems to be a blackscreen for the public but the military seem to have their own space program using this technology and they said it would take an act of god to reveal this to the general public as it is top secret. it sure would explain some of the ufo activity around the world.
boeing is only talking about this now but the real deal it seems by ex military is that this has already been accomplished many years ago.
if this is true then it sure is a conspiracy on the people of this planet.

Boeing, the world’s largest aircraft manufacturer, has admitted it is working on experimental anti-gravity projects that could overturn a century of conventional aerospace propulsion technology if the science underpinning them can be engineered into hardware.

As part of the effort, which is being run out of Boeing’s Phantom Works advanced research and development facility in Seattle, the company is trying to solicit the services of a Russian scientist who claims he has developed anti-gravity devices in Russia and Finland. The approach, however, has been thwarted by Russian officialdom.

The Boeing drive to develop a collaborative relationship with the scientist in question, Dr Evgeny Podkletnov, has its own internal project name: ‘GRASP’ — Gravity Research for Advanced Space Propulsion

humanji

Sofa_King Good wrote:

Do you see yourself and PaddyIrishman as being somehow different (better) from other posters?

You seem to be doing what you accuse him of doing. Are you honestly surprised that people don't believe the Illuminati exist?

Sofa_King Good

humanji wrote: »

You seem to be doing what you accuse him of doing.

humanji wrote: »

Are you honestly surprised that people don't believe the Illuminati exist?

Nope. I don't believe it myself, well not in an Eyes Wide Shut way.


and espinolaman, can Ia sk you what are phototronics?

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Do you see yourself and PaddyIrishman as being somehow different (better) from other posters?

Just different in that we require strong evidence before we believe something.

And I was poking fun at the accusations that some of the posters here are paid to do so.

Sofa_King Good

I genuinely apologise if I came on strong. I'm just a bit sore over a recent banning.

Seems to me that me that this is how it starts. Comments made that have no purpose other than to take the piss out of people who are interested in exploring different ideas and scenarios. The starting of the Alex Jones thread was another. Sometimes people are going to react. I don't mean specifically you here btw.

So What are we not supposed to know about ?

That that we do not know I guess.

Penn

Ok SKG, I admit I probably came on a little strong myself in dismissing it straightaway, and yes, this is a conspiracy theories forum, but espinolman said it like it was fact, and it isn't. I have yet to see proof (although I haven't looked at the links you posted yet). I apologise to you and espinolman for the way I said things.

And yes, I contradicted myself, but that just goes to show how little sense the NWO makes to me.People here have been claiming that they set up 9/11 to invade Iraq and get oil, but they also released a bioweapon in Mexico, as well as causing an earthquake there. It just seems like "Who could have caused this? It must be the NWO, because someone somewhere will profit from this"

rameire

espinolman wrote: »

What do the illuminati controllers of the world not want us to find out about ?

Want do they not want us to discuss in forums like this ?

What do they not want us researching ?

I think they don't want us finding out about psychotronics technology and free energy to name just two but if you know other things they don't want us finding out about then please mention whatever it is in this thread .

So i would suggest listing whatever you thing it is here and then of course the thing to do is research these things and discuss them in this forum and to hell with the NWO .

they dont want people to find out that they actually have no power at all, and to do that they actually make up conspiracy theories to distract people from the reality.

espinolman

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

So What are we not supposed to know about ?

That that we do not know I guess.

Things we are finding out on the internet or other sources but that we are not hearing about from the mass media such as newspapers , radio , magazines' and television news , now if you are not hearing about it from the mass media this would indicate it might be something we are not supposed to know about , for example chemtrails , well i'm not hearing anything really about that from the mainstream/mass media .

Yea psychotronic technology , i am not going to explain what it is about here because my idea with this thread is to get keywords for us to search on search engines' , i would suggest just give keywords instead of explaining because the thread could veer off into a debate on some subject .

You know we research and try to find out things and i think we are in a minority to say the least , most people don't try to find things out and so if they don't hear about something from the mainstream media they will probably never know about it , so do you realize that we know things that most people do not know about , have you ever thought about that !

Sofa_King Good

okay - The Spanish-American war over Cuba came about due to the propoganda machine of William Randalph Hearst/Citizen Kane

thecommander

espinolman wrote: »

Things we are finding out on the internet or other sources but that we are not hearing about from the mass media such as newspapers , radio , magazines' and television news , now if you are not hearing about it from the mass media this would indicate it might be something we are not supposed to know about , for example chemtrails , well i'm not hearing anything really about that from the mainstream/mass media .

Maybe its a nonstory, and they dont cover it eg chemtrails.

The mainstream media didn't cover the volcano in my back garden, but I could get a few blogs to write about it. Does it mean "they" dont want you to know about it? Or perhaps its just bull.

Mahatma coat

The mainstream media didn't cover the volcano in my back garden, but I could get a few blogs to write about it. Does it mean "they" dont want you to know about it? Or perhaps its just bull.

See this Is where I take issue with the so called Skeptics, instead of contributing to the discusion they roll in with 'hilarious' quips that drag the whole thing dow to the level of the absurd rather quickly,

next thing you know we'll be discussin whether or not an Invisible Unicorn can have a specific colour atributed to it and after a page or so of that no one will be bothered to discus the topic at hand.

posts like the above only serve to dissuade people who otherwise might be interested in joining the debate.

or worse, they lead others to the conclusion that its fine to rip the piss out of the Nutters, shur they're Tinfoilhat wearin nutters they expect it.

next thing you know it'll be Yore Ma's Lolcat in every thread, and ultimatley the death of what can be a brilliant Forum.

and I get the feling that there are some people here who would rejoice in the death of the CT Forum, so I ask those people, WHY?? why do you care, why does it bother ye so much?

So tolongwindedly get back OT, the main thing They dont want is us getting together and discussing these things, nothing can be kept secret forever, but things can be hidden for a very long time, forums like this afford us the opportunity to discuss the things we have seen/heard/tried with other likeminded individuals in the hope that together we might actually make some headway in understanding it.

meglome

Mahatma coat wrote: »

See this Is where I take issue with the so called Skeptics, instead of contributing to the discusion they roll in with 'hilarious' quips that drag the whole thing dow to the level of the absurd rather quickly,

next thing you know we'll be discussin whether or not an Invisible Unicorn can have a specific colour atributed to it and after a page or so of that no one will be bothered to discus the topic at hand.

posts like the above only serve to dissuade people who otherwise might be interested in joining the debate.

or worse, they lead others to the conclusion that its fine to rip the piss out of the Nutters, shur they're Tinfoilhat wearin nutters they expect it.

next thing you know it'll be Yore Ma's Lolcat in every thread, and ultimatley the death of what can be a brilliant Forum.

and I get the feling that there are some people here who would rejoice in the death of the CT Forum, so I ask those people, WHY?? why do you care, why does it bother ye so much?

So tolongwindedly get back OT, the main thing They dont want is us getting together and discussing these things, nothing can be kept secret forever, but things can be hidden for a very long time, forums like this afford us the opportunity to discuss the things we have seen/heard/tried with other likeminded individuals in the hope that together we might actually make some headway in understanding it.

This came up regarding chemtrails specifically. The same chemtrails espinolman has spectacularly failed to prove exist over an extended period of time. Now considering they are supposedly using planes, all of which are tracked this should be quite easy, just like the CIA rendition flights. I've said this before, I don't personally care that much what people want to discuss in here. But don't tell me to believe something as fact when you obviously have nothing to back it up.

I don't think you're being fair here at all. If I stood in the street right now and I told people the earth is flat people would point and laugh, and rightly so IMO as it's patently ludicrous. However pointing and laughing is not allowed in here so other than a very small number of occasions posters views are respected, at least publicly. Honestly if you have the courage of your convictions then some small amount of ridicule shouldn't bother you.

I've been corrected a number of times in here about what I believed and whilst I can't completely say I enjoyed the corrections at the time I did learn from them. So I'll never complain about these critiques as I keep learning. I may run my own business but I never when to college so I don't have the formal education that some people would have here. But I do have the desire to improve myself, even if that means being corrected in front of people.

Hey they laughed at Galileo, they threatened him too and he turned out to be correct. Of course he did have a couple of centuries of Muslim scientific works to use as reference to prove his theories. And at the end of the day if we expect people to listen to and respect our views, and our theories, then we should be able to back them up properly.

espinolman

Not suppposed to know about exopolitics !

Diogenes

Mahatma coat wrote: »

See this Is where I take issue with the so called Skeptics, instead of contributing to the discusion they roll in with 'hilarious' quips that drag the whole thing dow to the level of the absurd rather quickly,

Says the guy who's contribution to the ET/UFO thread is an embedded youtube video of a Monty Python song?

thecommander

Mahatma coat wrote: »

See this Is where I take issue with the so called Skeptics, instead of contributing to the discusion they roll in with 'hilarious' quips that drag the whole thing dow to the level of the absurd rather quickly etc etc blah etc......

You can take all the issue you want, but it does not take away from the point that chemtrail argument is nonsense. The point thats being use to prove their existance is that the mainstream media wont cover it, therefor something has to be going on is possibly the worst explaination I ever heard.

I make have over emphasised the point, but my point was valid. If you have a problem with it why dont you go and mod it. Oh wait...

I personally wouldn't rejoice in the death of the CT forum, but you have have to sometime see it for what it is. Its a flight of fantasy for many users, and if you post your views up in a public forum then expect people to read and comment on them. Most serious posts decend into utter nonsense by page 2, aliens and NWO being blamed at for everything that happens in the world. The 911 thread was going quite well until serious questions were asked and then the silly answers came out.

MC, you were the one who pointed out that there was a 150,000 year old nuclear war in Australia, but when asked about it you avoided the question. I find that much worse then whatever I commented, at least I replied.

espinolman

meglome wrote: »

I've said this before, I don't personally care that much what people want to discuss in here. But don't tell me to believe something as fact when you obviously have nothing to back it up..

Ok i have edited the OP .

espinolman

thecommander wrote: »

MC, you were the one who pointed out that there was a 150,000 year old nuclear war in Australia, but when asked about it you avoided the question. I find that much worse then whatever I commented, at least I replied.

There is one ' a 150,000 year old nuclear war in Australia ' maybe that is something which is hidden from us , that we are not supposed to know about !.

Mahatma coat

I theorised a possibile scenario based on what I have observed in the outback of Australia.

this is the Conspiracy theories forum, I offered a theory and my reasons for thinking there may have been a coverup/ongoing conspiracy to convince people of something else.

some people are interested in discussing these things with an open mind, this should be the place to do that.

thecommander

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I theorised a possibile scenario based on what I have observed in the outback of Australia.

But you didnt discuss, you said you had evidence of it, but wouldnt enter into conversation about it.

Volcano in my back garden. Discuss.

Mahatma coat

this was that thread
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055529412&page=11

I outlined the theory there, heres a recap for you.

me wrote:

Well Stonehenge IS a Building of some description

on that topic tho, as I have been dtiving around Australia I have come across 'Geographic Features' that looks suspiciously liek petrified cities,

the most interestin one that I have examined is out between Winton and Kynuna on the Matilda HWY, I've walked around this one and the proportions are right for it to be laid out like streets.

there are also a few rather suspect 'Pyramids' most people will be aware of the one near Gordanvale ( Between Cairns and Innisfail) but one of the most perfect ones I've seen was out at Selwyn (SW of Mount Isa, NE of Dajarra) it was like a large rectanglar type pyramid ( whats the word for a rectangular pyramindy thingy witha ridgeline) like a roof, but the proportions are almost perfect.


Bear in mind that this is the same place that has Lizards (yes actual small green lizards) which run around upright, and have legs hat fit undertheir bodies instead of out to one side (more birdlike) I have neer seen them anywhere else, evil little feckers with teeth and little arms, not like the normal type lizards you usually get round these parts. fast too, but next time I'm out that way I'll figure out a method of trappin a few.
_________________

espinolman wrote:

http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/n/nuclear_tunguska.html

me wrote:

Well, as I drive around Australia more it seems more likely to me that there was a Nuclear war here probably 100 - 150 thousand years ago.

are people so arrogant to think that we are the first humans ever to be clever?

Humans have existed as we are now, 'fully evolved' if you wish for over 250 thousand years.

we reach points of great zenith and then we slide back into the darkages, so yeah ancient nuclear weapons, or ships, quite possible.

if you open your mind to the possibility that your narrow little view of the world might not be quite as infallible as you believe then you might just start joining the dots and seeing the bigger picture

me wrote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Mob View Post
Or you know it could be natural processes.
What evidence do you have that the was a nuclear war 250 -150 thousand year ago?
tell ya what you explain to me how its a natural process, the old Terra Nullis fiction is finally being reexamined and it would seem that there may be something to more to these structures than the initial analysis would suggest, bear in mind that when most of these thing were being catalouged for the first time it would have destroyed the British claim to Australia if anyone could cast doubt on the Lien of Terra Nullis


Evidence, Hmm, well,

the dreamtime is about that old
I've seen these things for meself and formed my own theories about them.

theres a lot of Yellowcake in the northern end of Australia


OH and

THE FCUKIN HUGE RED BARREN WASTELAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONTINENT

dried up inland sea me hole, if it was an inland sea we'd be findin more evidence of extinct marine life like coral and them big calcium deposits from all the dead fish, but instead we find the remains of megafauna like 6 foot tall Wombats and land crocs

the commander wrote:

Originally Posted by Mahatma coat
Well, as I drive around Australia more it seems more likely to me that there was a Nuclear war here probably 100 - 150 thousand years ago.

Do you really believe that?

me wrote:

Seems highly likely TC

have you been over here?

the commander wrote:

No I haven't. Cant see how it seems highly likely. Other than a vast expance, there doesn't appear to any other evidence. Any radioactive readings, or evidence of a past technological civilisation been dug up?

Edit: where did you pluck the dating from?
Last edited by thecommander; 06-04-2009 at 08:45.

Meglome wrote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahatma coat View Post
Well, as I drive around Australia more it seems more likely to me that there was a Nuclear war here probably 100 - 150 thousand years ago.

are people so arrogant to think that we are the first humans ever to be clever?

Humans have existed as we are now, 'fully evolved' if you wish for over 250 thousand years.

we reach points of great zenith and then we slide back into the darkages, so yeah ancient nuclear weapons, or ships, quite possible.
Or we could ask you is it not arrogant to think you know more that most world experts in these fields?

There is no evidence of humans in Australia before forty thousands years ago. And even then no one can figure out exactly how they got there.

It's about accumulation of knowledge and better means of sharing it. Technology was lost when civilisations were wiped out as they had no mean other than person to person to share it.

Ireland didn't have a dark age like the rest of Europe and people are starting to believe the dark ages weren't quite as dark as we initially thought.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahatma coat View Post
if you open your mind to the possibility that your narrow little view of the world might not be quite as infallible as you believe then you might just start joining the dots and seeing the bigger picture
I love a good story I really really do. But what's you're saying has basically zero evidence. We can find traces of animals from millions of years ago but nothing for this nuclear war. We can dream and speculate all we want, I mean many great scientific discoveries started this way. So open your mind, but if you want strangers to believe you then I'd imagine you'd need to prove it in some way.

the commander wrote:

Is there any update on the 150,000 year ago nuclear war?

Sofa_King Good

meglome wrote: »

This came up regarding chemtrails specifically.But don't tell me to believe something as fact when you obviously have nothing to back it up.

To be fair he never even definitively stated it as fact. The thread isn't about chemtrails.

espinolman wrote: »

now if you are not hearing about it from the mass media this would indicate it might be something we are not supposed to know about , for example chemtrails

meglome wrote: »

I don't think you're being fair here at all. If I stood in the street right now and I told people the earth is flat people would point and laugh, and rightly so IMO as it's patently ludicrous. However pointing and laughing is not allowed in here so other than a very small number of occasions posters views are respected,

small number of occasions?

excluding the OP 7 of the first 10 posts were mocking in nature.

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

The fact that they exist perhaps?

They should have done a better job with that one

Diogenes wrote: »

Solent Green is made out of people!

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

1. Harry Potter is documented.

King Mob wrote: »

You see, they let forums like this run because they get paid disinfo agents like you and me to tie up the conspiracy theorists with NWO traps like asking evidence and using logic.

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

Oh, ok then. So they are real. Wait... no... I mean they're not real. Wait... what?

King Mob wrote: »

Oops, I've said too much.

Sofa_King Good

espinolman wrote: »

Ok i have edited the OP .

Just noticed this, so Meglome if I am wrong I apologise:eek:

Diogenes

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I theorised a possibile scenario based on what I have observed in the outback of Australia.

this is the Conspiracy theories forum, I offered a theory and my reasons for thinking there may have been a coverup/ongoing conspiracy to convince people of something else.

some people are interested in discussing these things with an open mind, this should be the place to do that.

Unfortunately where you failed, is when people asked you explain what evidence you have to support your claim of a 150k year old nuclear war in Australia, you went stum.

espinolman

Side effects of vaccines , i think that is a ,not supposed to know about'!

espinolman

The food products in our shops which have been genetically modified (altered) are not labeled as such , so there is something we are obviously not supposed to know about .

espinolman

espinolman wrote: »

Side effects of vaccines , i think that is a ,not supposed to know about'!

What side effects are these?
And how do you know that there are side effects?

espinolman wrote: »

The food products in our shops which have been genetically modified (altered) are not labeled as such , so there is something we are obviously not supposed to know about .

And again can you back up this statement and how do you know about it?

How do you know these things are being covered up rather not being true?

espinolman

King Mob wrote: »

What side effects are these?
And how do you know that there are side effects?

Google 'side effects of vaccines' ok.

King Mob wrote: »

And again can you back up this statement and how do you know about it?

How do you know these things are being covered up rather not being true?

I have heard from the mainstream media that the foods which are genetically altered are not labelled as such in shops . Surely you have heard about this !

espinolman

espinolman wrote: »

Google 'side effects of vaccines' ok.

I have and they are all backed up only with pseudoscience and ignorance.

espinolman wrote: »

I have heard from the mainstream media that the foods which are genetically altered are not labelled as such in shops . Surely you have heard about this , unless you are living on another planet !

And can you provide a link to this?

And more importantly with is this a problem?

espinolman

King Mob wrote: »

I have and they are all backed up only with pseudoscience and ignorance.




And can you provide a link to this?

And more importantly with is this a problem?

No i am not going to look for a link now , and yes i have a problem with it , if i don't know which foods i am eating are genetically altered , well i don't like that at all , it makes me feel like a fcukin guinea pig , how dare they not tell us which foods are genetically altered .

espinolman

espinolman wrote: »

No i am not going to look for a link now , and yes i have a problem with it , if i don't know which foods i am eating are genetically altered , well i don't like that at all , it makes me feel like a fcukin guinea pig , how dare they not tell us which foods are genetically altered .

All foods are genetically altered on some level, we've been doing it for thousands of years.

Can you point out a single case of a person dying from GM foods?
Can you point out a single illness in a person caused by GM foods?

Or is this just a unsupported belief the NWO is out to kill everyone?

espinolman

King Mob wrote: »

All foods are genetically altered on some level, we've been doing it for thousands of years.

Can you point out a single case of a person dying from GM foods?
Can you point out a single illness in a person caused by GM foods?

Or is this just a unsupported belief the NWO is out to kill everyone?

Now i did not say ' the NWO is out to kill everyone '

Yea what are GM foods about , well that is a whole separate subject , its about patanting nature , its about money and power , but its a different subject from what we are not supposed to know about , now it seems to me that we are not supposed to know which foods are GM in our shops and that it is planned that way and i don't think it is right .

espinolman

The following was given to me by mysterious , so i have decided to put it in here because it seems to be material we are not supposed to know about.

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espinolman

espinolman wrote: »

Now i did not say ' the NWO is out to kill everyone '

Yea what are GM foods about , well that is a whole separate subject , its about patanting nature , its about money and power , but its a different subject from what we are not supposed to know about , now it seems to me that we are not supposed to know which foods are GM in our shops and that it is planned that way and i don't think it is right .

No one is patenting nature. That's just silly.

I going to guess that you're completely ignoring the actual benefits of GM crops.

But tell why won't they tell which foods have GM components? What purpose does it serve?

espinolman

King Mob wrote: »

But tell why won't they tell which foods have GM components? What purpose does it serve?

As far as i know the reason they won't label them in the shops is because there are a lot of people like me who will not purchase them if they knew which ones are GM .

espinolman

espinolman wrote: »

As far as i know the reason they won't label them in the shops is because there are a lot of people like me who will not purchase them if they knew which ones are GM .

And why wouldn't you buy them?

Why would it matter who bought them and who didn't?

Undergod

Well that makes sense, people are worried about GM foods, so manufacturers are not going to advertise the fact that their products are GM. It's pretty likely there's no legislation that requires you to label GM foods as such.

The only problem I have with GM is that most companies make them so that the plants can't reproduce, and every season you want to grow a GM crop you must buy the seeds again. That's just exploitative business, it's not the fault of the genetic modification itself.

Undergod

Undergod wrote: »

Well that makes sense, people are worried about GM foods, so manufacturers are not going to advertise the fact that their products are GM. It's pretty likely there's no legislation that requires you to label GM foods as such.

The only problem I have with GM is that most companies make them so that the plants can't reproduce, and every season you want to grow a GM crop you must buy the seeds again. That's just exploitative business, it's not the fault of the genetic modification itself.

The other thing is if they did make GM crops that did reproduce, environmentalists would be up in arms about how these crops could unbalance the eco system.
Damned if they do, damn if they don't.