Farve meeting wth Viking's HC about possible return

Chucky the tree

Will he ever go away? How badly will he tarnish his reputation with the cheeseheads if goes to the Vikings of all place?

Minnesota Vikings head coach Brad Childress and quarterback Brett Favre plan to meet at an undisclosed location later this week to discuss the possibility of the former Packers and Jets quarterback renouncing his retirement from the NFL to play the 2009 season with the Vikings, according to a source with direct knowledge of discussions between the two parties.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4142857

LuckyLloyd

Jaysus. :rolleyes:

You're done Brett. Just ride away with some dignity huh?

Though tbh, as a Jets fan I'm really not sure I can post sensibly in relation to this guy. Last season left me bitter, so bitter.

eagle eye

The thing is that anyone can have a bad season, especially when learning a new playbook for the first time since you came out of college. I don't think its right though for him to join the Vikings, thats the worst insult to Packers fans.

I am a long time fan of course and while this could be a disaster I just feel he wants to finish having made a big contribution which was not the case last season.

shut up!

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Though tbh, as a Jets fan I'm really not sure I can post sensibly in relation to this guy. Last season left me bitter, so bitter.

In fairness, he probably didn't mean to tear his bicep, and had he not, the Jets were a dead-cert for the Playoffs.

I think enough's enough too. Either retire or play, don't flip-flop though, that just makes him look foolish and weak tbh.

I understand, however, his desire to play is in part fuelled by the fact that he pretty much hates the Packers now, due to a perceived mis-treatment by them.

Karlusss

The guy can't make it through a regular season healthy. He can get barely halfway through before breaking down - these aren't Donovan McNabb, Marc Bulger niggling injuries, these are your-career-is-over you-are-too-old-to-do-this injuries.

How is he supposed to lead them to the Superbowl?

The Vikes need a manager, not a gunslinger, also. Not Favre, not Rosenfels, probably not Jackson though he showed some potential towards the end of last year.

Sea Devils

I'd have to disagree. Rosenfals has a higher interception percentage then Favre based on last season and just watching Jackson in the Playoffs last year against the Eagles it's obvious he's not a NFL starting QB. Having Favre on the roster will at least improve these two backups.

Sure he faded down the stretch because he was injured but based on his current attributes he's at best an average starting QB which is better then Jackson and Rosenfals are. Another thing for the Vikings to ponder if of course he does sign with them is to make sure he doesn't fade during the season. It helps that a running game with Peterson which means they can sit him late in games should they have a big lead. Just looking at their schedule it helps that they have very little cold weather games.

However when all's said and done it's obvious he's doing this to spite Ted Thompson and the Packers

Royal Seahawk

Sea Devils wrote: »

I'd have to disagree. Rosenfals has a higher interception percentage then Favre based on last season and just watching Jackson in the Playoffs last year against the Eagles it's obvious he's not a NFL starting QB. Having Favre on the roster will at least improve these two backups.

Sure he faded down the stretch because he was injured but based on his current attributes he's at best an average starting QB which is better then Jackson and Rosenfals are. Another thing for the Vikings to ponder if of course he does sign with them is to make sure he doesn't fade during the season. It helps that a running game with Peterson which means they can sit him late in games should they have a big lead. Just looking at their schedule it helps that they have very little cold weather games.

However when all's said and done it's obvious he's doing this to spite Ted Thompson and the Packers

Exactly. I think its 11 out of 16 being played in a dome.
Vikings will depend a lot more on their running game than GB or NYJ thus resting Favre a lot more.
If i was a Vikings fan and it came down to starting either a fully fit Favre, Rosenfals or Jackson my choice would be No.4 everytime.

jdivision

Favre's an addict and I think he's replaced the painkillers with a need for attention. I think he just wants the speculation as it feeds his ego. I don't think he'll play next year, simply because he should have had that op if he wanted to.

Neil3030

jdivision wrote: »

Favre's an addict and I think he's replaced the painkillers with a need for attention. I think he just wants the speculation as it feeds his ego. I don't think he'll play next year, simply because he should have had that op if he wanted to.

That'll prob just fuel him more tbh. "Arrrrrggghhh - surgery is for pussies, I'm 112 and I can still get it done with nothing but a shot of whiskey and some good old fashioned cajones"

Pherekydes

Royal Seahawk wrote: »

If i was a Vikings fan and it came down to starting either a fully fit Favre, Rosenfals or Jackson my choice would be No.4 everytime.

John David Booty? He hasn't thrown a pass yet!

tallaghtoutlaws

Pherekydes wrote: »

John David Booty? He hasn't thrown a pass yet!

He wont either even if Favre doesnt go to the Vikes.

Sea Devils

Pherekydes wrote: »

John David Booty? He hasn't thrown a pass yet!

No wonder he hasn't since he's a third stringer.

tallaghtoutlaws

I kind of like this hole Brett Favre thing it is funny you have to admit. Oh Jets im going to retire please release me haha Ring Ring Mr Vikings are you still looking for a QB nothing pleases me more than still trying to get one over the Pack! His arrogance and petulant childish behaviour is legend in my opinion. I want to grow up just like him. :D:D:D:D

Rented Mule

The ironic thing about his interest in the Vikings is that he has had a losing record in his career when playing in the 'baggie dome'.

Karlusss

Seriously, the guy played well the first half of last season BUT faded down the stretch.

You know what comes after "the stretch"? The playoffs! He's not going to stay fit.

I'm going to keep saying this until Brad Childress starts reading boards.ie

tallaghtoutlaws

Rented Mule wrote: »

The ironic thing about his interest in the Vikings is that he has had a losing record in his career when playing in the 'baggie dome'.

Pretty sure he will kick this playing more regular in there though. And with an Offense Like the Vikes hey why not given him a go. A good strong O-line and AP in the backfield. Bring on the Big child called Favre is what I say. Who needs soaps when we have No 4. Legend :D:D:D

Neil3030

I can see AP getting very sick, very quickly of every possession ending up in an interception, and him getting about 2 touches a game...

tallaghtoutlaws

Neil3030 wrote: »

I can see AP getting very sick, very quickly of every possession ending up in an interception, and him getting about 2 touches a game...

I highly doubt Favre isnt going to hand the ball off if he goes there now in fairness. Even in some of Favres and the Packers worse years they still produced a min of 1000 yards with average back now Put AP in your backfield. The Jets has 2004 yards rushing last year by the way.

Neil3030

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

I highly doubt Favre isnt going to hand the ball off if he goes there now in fairness. Even in some of Favres and the Packers worse years they still produced a min of 1000 yards with average back now Put AP in your backfield. The Jets has 2004 yards rushing last year by the way.

My god man look up the word sarcasm...

tallaghtoutlaws

Neil3030 wrote: »

My god man look up the word sarcasm...

My god man sarcasm doesnt work through text im afraid......... Hold on while I put on my internet reality sensing helmet and add this with my spidey senses to sense your sarcasm through my super computer porthole. Oh and did I mention I have been drinking.......

Sea Devils

Report coming through that he's denied the Vikings offer and will stay retired. Still don't think this is true however he was never a fan of minicamps/spring training/OTA's so who knows he could still possibly change his mind come preseason

Rented Mule

Sea Devils wrote: »

Report coming through that he's denied the Vikings offer and will stay retired. Still don't think this is true however he was never a fan of minicamps/spring training/OTA's so who knows he could still possibly change his mind come preseason

Brett Favre remains retired -- for now -- despite reports that Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress planned to meet with him this week and try to talk him into coming to the team

Sea Devils

Rented Mule wrote: »

Brett Favre remains retired -- for now -- despite reports that Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress planned to meet with him this week and try to talk him into coming to the team

Don't forget that he formally retired last year and then came back to play with the Jets in August. Nothing is certain in No.4's world

Karlusss

I love the way they throw in the word "for now" after every report.

Favre: "I'm retired"
Media: "...for now"
Favre: *mows lawns*
Media: *waits for development*

Chucky the tree

lolfarveaments.

The health of quarterback Brett Favre's throwing arm appears to be a pivotal factor in whether he comes out of retirement to play for the Minnesota Vikings.

A source close to the situation told ESPN's Jeremy Schaap on Friday that X-rays of Favre's right shoulder -- he has pain resulting from a torn biceps tendon -- have been sent to the Vikings and that the X-rays are in the process of being evaluated. If it is determined by Favre's and the Vikings' medical people that he needs anything less than "major" surgery on his shoulder, Favre will unretire to play for the Vikings, the source said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4152783&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines

Chanandler Bong

Why did Brett Favre cross the road?

He didn't, he held numerous press conferencs saying he would but just stood at the corner forever

Neil3030

Really goes to show how fast you can go from God to zero if you outstay your welcome!

FlutterinBantam

If he has any class he should retire now and relax and reap the benefits.

Karlusss

You can't blame the guy for being bored I suppose.

I'd say every time somebody says "stay retired, spend time with your kids, work on your ranch" he thinks "fuck I have nothing to do for the next forty years" and decides to delay it a bit more.

Royal Seahawk

Karlusss wrote: »

You can't blame the guy for being bored I suppose.

I'd say every time somebody says "stay retired, spend time with your kids, work on your ranch" he thinks "fuck I have nothing to do for the next forty years" and decides to delay it a bit more.

Exactly. He'll be retired long enough.
If a team still wants him you can't blame him for being interested.

tommyj

vikings got to the playoffs last season without a quarterback of note.(frerotte and jackson are rubbish)
should favre sign with the vikings(even at 70% for example) i see him taking them to the nfc championship game and who knows after that.
lets wait and see

themont85

tommyj wrote: »

vikings got to the playoffs last season without a quarterback of note.(frerotte and jackson are rubbish)
should favre sign with the vikings(even at 70% for example) i see him taking them to the nfc championship game and who knows after that.
lets wait and see

Vikings got to the playoffs just ahead of an average Bears team with a bi-polar defence and a offence with no passing game. The Packers were always going to struggle a little with a new qb and a terrible summer, then we had the Lions:D The North will be far better next year with the Bears and Packers both imo looking good for the playoffs. Vikings for me still rely on AP a wee bit much and Farve or not will need to raise their game substantially to even make the playoffs.

Rented Mule

tommyj wrote: »

vikings got to the playoffs last season without a quarterback of note.(frerotte and jackson are rubbish)
should favre sign with the vikings(even at 70% for example) i see him taking them to the nfc championship game and who knows after that.
lets wait and see

The Bears now have a QB and an O line.

Should make for a more interesting division this season.

Karlusss

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d810496fe/Favre-Trumped

This is hilarious stuff.

Favre threw 9 INTs in the last few games...

"I was standing on a cliff and it was very windy"

Its So Easy

I just watched a video on nfl.com that said that farve was meeting with Dr. Jim Andrews(known to wrestling fans) on friday (yesterday) about his bicep. Am I the only person that thinks that the whole soap opera of last season and possibly this season will end up hurting his legacy ? Or does Farve even care about that at this point ?

tallaghtoutlaws

Its So Easy wrote: »

I just watched a video on nfl.com that said that farve was meeting with Dr. Jim Andrews(known to wrestling fans) on friday (yesterday) about his bicep. Am I the only person that thinks that the whole soap opera of last season and possibly this season will end up hurting his legacy ? Or does Farve even care about that at this point ?

How will it hurt what he has achieved in the past? He is still going to go to the Hall of Fame as a great. He may lose a bit of respect for his recent shennanigans but no one can take away what he has done in his career. He knows that in his own head id say and probably why the press and people fuel his antics so much.

Funny thing is if the press ignored Brett and his drama he probably would have given up. Ask yourself this why do people continue to give a damn what he does and continue to talk about him in the national press in the US? If everybody is sick of it why dont they just say Whatever Brett next story? I will tell why becuase it sells and if he does go to the Vikings they will cash in on the amount of Jerseys Brett Favre will sell, The amount of T-shirts he will sell etc etc...

If the man wants to play football and a team are willing to pay his contract whats the big deal. Dont discuss it ignore it and let him do what he does on the field then maybe once and for all he might realise if he has become a media whore that no one cares anymore and he may retire.:D

Sea Devils

Its So Easy wrote: »

. Am I the only person that thinks that the whole soap opera of last season and possibly this season will end up hurting his legacy ? ?

Not at all. The guy is already assured a place in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, has numerous passing records and a Superbowl ring. He loves to play football, what's wrong with that? He's not all about the money (like some) and even when he's accomplished so much in his career, he's still considering playing on! That's impressive qualities when you're playing in such a violent sport.

I for one hope to see Favre under centre with the Vikings next year even though it looks doubtful now

Chucky the tree

And he's back it seems.

http://wcco.com/vikings/brett.favre.vikings.2.1057007.html

That source said that Favre and the Vikings have indeed come to a contractual agreement, with heavy incentives. The Vikings equipment manager has already ordered number 4 purple jerseys with his name on i

Karlusss

I really, really hate myself for this, but I kinda want to see him go down early.

Favre was a role model on a par with Santa for not only a generation or two of Wisconsin kids, but for people who just respected how he went about playing the game. This is pretty much the worst thing that could have happened. Jets, okay. But going to the rival of the team you put your heart and soul into for a decade is going to break a lot of hearts, and it's just not a classy move.

Hynzie

It wont hurt his legacy in regard to the Hall of Fame or anything like that but I think it will with alot of fans . Everyone LOVED him but now most people seem to be sick of his will I retire or wont I retire thing. And for Packer fans, I mean if he goes to the Vikings, how do they ever look at him the same?

Personally I have no problem with him wanting to play. At the end of the day its his life. Honestly I love the whole thing! Its like some bad 80's action movie with Steve Segal or something. A man out for revenge! If he goes the Packers v Vikings game in Lambeau will be amazing!

tallaghtoutlaws

Karlusss wrote: »

Favre was a role model on a par with Santa for not only a generation or two of Wisconsin kids, but for people who just respected how he went about playing the game.

Really funny thing about this. I spend alot of time in WI and alot of his die hard fans jumped ship with him. Not that they followed the Jets or will ever follow the Vikes but alot of them are no longer big Pack fans and just want to see Brett Favre play and will follow him til the end of the earth. Those who are pre Brett or those who only started following the Pack towards the end of his career are the ones that dont respect him anymore or just want to see him retire. But those who lieterally grew up with his career are Brett Favre Fans not Pack Fans.

Still begs the question had the Pack given Favre another year would he be doing all this? At the end of it if he wants to play whats the big deal? Vikes are the only ones willing to give him playing time so why wouldnt he join them. I think the whole thing is legend really funny as fook.

Sea Devils

I want Favre to succed this season except when he plays against the Niners but even I must admit that this will he won't he saga for the second offseason in a row is getting ridiciculously old. The entire off-season news is all about him, and its getting irritating beyond belief.

Karlusss

The Packers still made the right decision moving on when they did, I think. If Rodgers is still sitting behind Favre going into 2009, then he's not going to start for the Packers ever and they've missed the boat on a starting calibre quarterback because they can't get their current guy to decide permanently whether he's retiring or not until training camp every year.

Wonder if the Vikings would prefer to be signing Aaron Rodgers or Brett Favre? If people are dismissing the Cardinals' chances because how unlikely it is that Warner will stay as healthy again this year, then surely Favre is pretty much red alert leave-your-season-in-the-air material.

And if they don't do it this year, what? Childress will probably be gone, Favre will eventually have to stop playing football at some point even if he's not forced out by injury. It's kind of an all-in move.

Hynzie

Karlusss wrote: »

The Packers still made the right decision moving on when they did, I think. If Rodgers is still sitting behind Favre going into 2009, then he's not going to start for the Packers ever and they've missed the boat on a starting calibre quarterback because they can't get their current guy to decide permanently whether he's retiring or not until training camp every year.

Wonder if the Vikings would prefer to be signing Aaron Rodgers or Brett Favre? If people are dismissing the Cardinals' chances because how unlikely it is that Warner will stay as healthy again this year, then surely Favre is pretty much red alert leave-your-season-in-the-air material.

And if they don't do it this year, what? Childress will probably be gone, Favre will eventually have to stop playing football at some point even if he's not forced out by injury. It's kind of an all-in move.

Agree with you that its all in for the Vikings. I dont blame Childress for thinking like that, another year of T jack or the Sage experiment would mean hes gone anyway!!

eagle eye

Brett Farve receives lifetime achievement award rofl

Chucky the tree

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Still begs the question had the Pack given Favre another year would he be doing all this? At the end of it if he wants to play whats the big deal? Vikes are the only ones willing to give him playing time so why wouldnt he join them. I think the whole thing is legend really funny as fook.

There's a few teams out there who would take him but he's turned around and said if he doesn't sign for the vikings he'll stay retired. This smacks of him just wanting to get back at Ted Thompson.

tallaghtoutlaws

Chucky the tree wrote: »

There's a few teams out there who would take him but he's turned around and said if he doesn't sign for the vikings he'll stay retired. This smacks of him just wanting to get back at Ted Thompson.

Show me where those words came directly from his mouth. See this what annoys me about the whole thing the Media. One side of the media are making him out to be an ahole only trying to get back at the Packers and the other side are telling him he should retire or he will ruin his reputation. Maybe if both sides ignored it Favre would have given up along time ago. I have never read anything directly quoted from Favre saying he wouldnt play anywhere else other than the Vikings. If Im wrong I stand corrected. If you were to believe the media it seems that the Vikes persistance to sign him has made him think twice this year. But its no secret the Vikes always wanted him even before he went to the Jets they made it known they were interested.

And not many Packers fans like Ted Thompson anyway. I spend alot of time in those parts and you rarely here packers fans say anything nice of Ted Thompson. Alot believe its his fault Favre is gone.

Chucky the tree

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Show me where those words came directly from his mouth. See this what annoys me about the whole thing the Media. One side of the media are making him out to be an ahole only trying to get back at the Packers and the other side are telling him he should retire or he will ruin his reputation. Maybe if both sides ignored it Favre would have given up along time ago. I have never read anything directly quoted from Favre saying he wouldnt play anywhere else other than the Vikings. If Im wrong I stand corrected. If you were to believe the media it seems that the Vikes persistance to sign him has made him think twice this year. But its no secret the Vikes always wanted him even before he went to the Jets they made it known they were interested.

And not many Packers fans like Ted Thompson anyway. I spend alot of time in those parts and you rarely here packers fans say anything nice of Ted Thompson. Alot believe its his fault Favre is gone.

Here's an interview he did with Joe buck.

Q. Is Minnesota the only team on your radar?

A. “That’s all I’ve talked to. It makes perfect sense as far as coming back because it’s an offense that I ran for 16 years. I could teach the offense. It was tough going to New York last year because I was two weeks late, it was a totally new offense for me and I thought, ‘This won’t be too bad.’ And [Jets offensive coordinator] Brian Schottenheimer and [coach Eric] Mangini and those guys were great with me because we condensed it down to where I could at least call the plays. But it was like learning a foreign language.”

I find it strange how someone who seems so desperate to come back has only spoken to one team. I will accept that Vikes make the most sense because they are so good everywhere else except QB and they have a chance of going to the SB which is what he wants, but I think going to Packs biggest rivals and a team in their division so he can stick it to TT is a big factor. I wonder if Vikes went after one of the top QB's in the draft would Farve still want to come of retirement and play with the Browns for example. While many Pack fans mightn't like TT I'd say they are all alot happier with Rodgers under center then Farve.

tallaghtoutlaws

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I find it strange how someone who seems so desperate to come back has only spoken to one team. It's from an interview he did with Joe buck a few weeks ago. While many Pack fans mightn't like TT I'd say they are all alot happier with Rodgers under center then Farve.

You are basically speculating on that one interview. It doesnt give you any indication that he snubbed other teams in favour of the Vikes. It doesnt give us any indication that any other team even approached him. And for the desperate thing the fact the vikes run a similar offense as he says in the interview and they have always been interested it is the most logical choice really. But then again we dont know if he ever snubbed other teams or any others teams showed interest.

As for the the Pack fans liking Rogers better? 50/50 Id say. Dont forget a high number were Brett Favre fans first then the the Pack and then the fact the season previous they did alot better than they had in a long time by getting to a Championship game alot were shocked he was "retiring". I was in Wisconsin last season when Favre "retired" and honestly it was mixed emotions. alot doubted the decision becuase they had a good season the season previous.

Chucky the tree

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

You are basically speculating on that one interview. It doesnt give you any indication that he snubbed other teams in favour of the Vikes. It doesnt give us any indication that any other team even approached him. And for the desperate thing the fact the vikes run a similar offense as he says in the interview and they have always been interested it is the most logical choice really. But then again we dont know if he ever snubbed other teams or any others teams showed interest.

As for the the Pack fans liking Rogers better? 50/50 Id say. Dont forget a high number were Brett Favre fans first then the the Pack and then the fact the season previous they did alot better than they had in a long time by getting to a Championship game alot were shocked he was "retiring". I was in Wisconsin last season when Favre "retired" and honestly it was mixed emotions. alot doubted the decision becuase they had a good season the season previous.

Well I doubt he's going to turn around and say "I only want to go to the vikings and no one else". While fair enough I am only speculating about it all I'd still be surprised if no other team wanted him, even the Browns and manngini must of been interested considering he's not sold on Anderson or Brady it seems.


I'm sure if Farve never said he was going to retire they would of wanted him to stay and start but when he did the whole "I'm retiring...er no actually I want to come back" after they were all prepared to go with Rodgers I think most Packer fans(Farve fans might of felt different) would of felt it was it for the best not to take him back, still I'm sure a big % didn't thoug obviously since he was such a legend. While I'm not a fan of his I hope he does join the Viking as it will make that division so exciting, bears-cutler, Packers-Rodgers, vikes- Farve, Lions - Stafford(possibly) some epic matches to look forward too.

tallaghtoutlaws

Chucky the tree wrote: »

While I'm not a fan of his I hope he does join the Viking as it will make that division so exciting, bears-cutler, Packers-Rodgers, vikes- Farve, Lions - Stafford(possibly) some epic matches to look forward too.

+1 to that.