McIntyre OUT!!

krustywanksock

This man is an absoulute fool.How can his decision to drop ger farragher to accomodate chunky hayes be justified! IT boggles the mind!! Mcyntre s a joke and I think his comments earlier on in the year after the defeat to kilkenny where just down right Disgraceful sure enought we were beaten by a good kilkenny side put we didnt play all that well and i think by saying everyone in galway was living in dreamland if we think we can win an all ireland must of been so dis-hartening to the players who train so hard for our county. IF MCINTYRE FEELS LIKE THIS THEN WHY DID HE TAKE THE F-ING JOB IN THE FIRST PLACE???!!! Let him **** off back to Ofally is what i say!

Diabhal Beag

Ger Farragher is in poor form compared to All-Ireland club winning chunky. Nobody will beat Killkenny so I wouldn't feel down about that. MCINTYRE IN!

krustywanksock

Little Shyte wrote: »

Ger Farragher is in poor form compared to All-Ireland club winning chunky. Nobody will beat Killkenny so I wouldn't feel down about that. MCINTYRE IN!

SHTOP farragher was galways top score in the league until that fool dropped him yes i know nobody will beat kilkenny but im saying how dare mcintyre make those comments? And chunky hayes is just a buff with a hurl no skill what so ever! Farragher is the key to galways sucess he carried the team to the final in 2004 AND HELL DO IT AGAIN!!! if given the chance

Diabhal Beag

Didn't he have arthreitus or something else wrong with his back. He hasn't been the same since. Joe Canning took his role as free-taker so his only addition to the team is gone. Cyril Donnelan and Iarla Tannion are getting good now so eventually we will see the lad on the bench.

krustywanksock

His only role?? He wins ball after ball and can throw balls over the bar from either size from huge distances out i dont know about the airthritus but he does have frequent bck injuries on his day he is amongst the best 5 forwards in ireland

Benhonan

I know this is off-topic but I have to agree with earlier comments about Ger Farragher. He's a very handy hurler and all and it is no big surprise that he was top scorer for ye, but at the end of the day he is the poor man's Joe Canning. Galway's game has always been to have small, fast forwards running off a big, strong ball winning full-forward. While Canning was tied up with Portumna then Farragher stepped into his shoes well, fair play to him, but his main strength was always from dead balls and I don't see how you can justify starting both. I don't think he has the pace or the aerial skills to play in the half-forward line during the summer championship months and there's no place for him at 13 or 15.

krustywanksock

I would have to disagree i think ger's airial skills perfectly suited to the half forward line, with joe full forward and ger at centre half with small quick players running off them think this could be galways best forward combination. As a person who watches ger many times for club and county ive seen him rake in many the high ball and with the likes of tannion hayes cahalan and donelan supporting him galway could get some real success

Orizio

I haven't seen Farragher be anything other then mediocre in a Galway jersey.

Benhonan

Has he got much experience at 11? I couldn't see him being an option there, he's always struck me as more of a finisher than a playmaker. What Galway want at centre forward is a big physical hurler who'll neutralise the centre back and keep the ball moving in to that lethal full-forward line. Couldn't see Farragher in that role, even if he is a good player.

premierstone

krustywanksock wrote: »

This man is an absoulute fool.How can his decision to drop ger farragher to accomodate chunky hayes be justified! IT boggles the mind!! Mcyntre s a joke and I think his comments earlier on in the year after the defeat to kilkenny where just down right Disgraceful sure enought we were beaten by a good kilkenny side put we didnt play all that well and i think by saying everyone in galway was living in dreamland if we think we can win an all ireland must of been so dis-hartening to the players who train so hard for our county. IF MCINTYRE FEELS LIKE THIS THEN WHY DID HE TAKE THE F-ING JOB IN THE FIRST PLACE???!!! Let him **** off back to Ofally is what i say!

First of all you do realise that what a manager says in the press and what he says to he's own players are two different things or is this concept alien to you

And just for your information he's from Tipperary not offaly.

As regards Farragher hes is an above average free taker who is still, like many of he's Galway counterparts, living on he's achievements as a minor

krustywanksock

First of all, Mr.smartass <wink>,You do realise that the players read and listen to the media aswell? AND actually FOR YOUR INFORMATION McIntyre used to manage ofally or did you not have that stored in your limited gaa knowledge.And as for farragher living on his achievments from minor was it his minor achievments that got him runner up in the hurler of the year in 2004?? Please come back to me when you can conduct a proper debate rather than just waffle.

krustywanksock

Fair enough argument Ben honan but i would have to disagree i think farragher would be perfect for getn the ball into the full forward line quick and accuratly.

krustywanksock

Orizio wrote: »

I haven't seen Farragher be anything other then mediocre in a Galway jersey.

Well i dont know if you seen any of the league games this year or the 2004 championship but ill say you didnt which could be the only reason that would cause you to say that!!;)

Orizio

So your basing all this on irrelevent league matches - and yes I have seen Galway play in the league this year - and championship half a decade ago?

krustywanksock

No about 5 years ago? At the start of our league i believe ger was the stand out player and last year aswell and him being dropped now i think is completly unjustified.

Orizio

Half a decade = five years.

Ger is a fellow clubmate isn't he?

krustywanksock

No mate im from westside galway my club is rahoon ger plays for cashegar on the opposite side of the city.Im sorry i didnt see the half before the decade!

portumna

Poor ould Chunky gets an awful doing on these forums. What has the man done wrong this year? Hurled out of skin for Portumna, won an all-ireland club title with them, get called onto the county panel and played his way onto the team. The man is on fire at the moment and if John McIntyre see fit to play him ahead of Farragher so be it. Farragher has flattered to decieve since his runner-up accolade in 2004 and i'm sure this has something to do with McIntyre's decision.

Lay off Chunky. He didn't pick himself but i'll assure you that he'll give his all for the cause once he's out on that field.

krustywanksock

portumna wrote: »

Poor ould Chunky gets an awful doing on these forums. What has the man done wrong this year? Hurled out of skin for Portumna, won an all-ireland club title with them, get called onto the county panel and played his way onto the team. The man is on fire at the moment and if John McIntyre see fit to play him ahead of Farragher so be it. Farragher has flattered to decieve since his runner-up accolade in 2004 and i'm sure this has something to do with McIntyre's decision.

Lay off Chunky. He didn't pick himself but i'll assure you that he'll give his all for the cause once he's out on that field.

Fair enough argument put i still feel strongly that chunkys hard work and graft offers more to the team than gers accuracy(from play) his distribution skill his ball winning and his unnoticed hard work . I know chunky will give it his all and fair play to him for tryin hard but think mcIntyre has unjustly dropped ger after some good solid performances

premierstone

No place for Farragher in the starting 15 for Sunday I see, I reckon its a Tipp man trying to sabotage Galway hurling tbh

LeoB

Orizio wrote: »

Half a decade = five years.
Well spotted. Are ya a sums teacher in U.C.C:)


Ger is a fellow clubmate isn't he?

A brother by the sound of it.

Look the manager picks the team and this lad is living on things from a few years ago. He is inconsistant and I think McIntyre done the right thing.

Consistancy has been a problem for Galway and manager picks on what he sees at training or in Challenge games. For to long this didnt happen in Galway and lads were left in the side who were not up to it.

Anyway welcome to Leinster.
Oh and to be honest, I was not in favour of Galway playing Leinster.

krustywanksock

The purpose of this thread was to highlight what i feel is mcintires mistake by choosing chunky hayes over ger farragher..I think judging by chunkies "antics" yesterday im right. Hes useless all together some good hell be on the sidelines.

LeoB

It appears to me the purpose of this thread was you to vent your anger at your "mate" not getting picked.

Galway hit 5..29 and won. He didnt even bring on Farragher. Sometimes **** happens in games. I dont like it but it happens, should'nt but it does. Sure your crowd will lodge an objection, if ye dont oust McIntyre in the mean time and he will be back for Dublin Antrim or Wexford.

Diabhal Beag

We didn't need him too badly yesterday. Enough with the bitter attitude

Flukey

Krustywansock, before McIntyre goes back to Offaly, Galway should go back to Connacht and play in the Connacht Hurling Championship. "There isn't one" you'll say. True, and that is the real problem, and the one that should be addressed. Galway aren't the problem. Mayo, Sligo, Leitrim and Roscommon are. Which of Mayo, Sligo, Leitrim, Galway or Roscommon are most capable of winning the All-Ireland? The answer is obvious. So how come it is Galway that are regarded as the problem? "It would take years to get the others to a competitve level" you'd say. True, so they better get started immediately, hadn't they instead of continually ignoring the problem and even going as far as trying to solve something that isn't a problem? The same goes for Antrim and Ulster.

Don't be worrying about McIntyre. Galway doesn't have any problems in Hurling. All of us that have a real interest in Hurling know that. Unfortunately the GAA doesn't seem to. We have the crazy situation that several Leinster counties aren't allowed to play in their own championship, while Antrim and Galway are, while at the same time the two of them also aren't allowed to play in their championships. Even putting them into Leinster hasn't really changed anything. Yesterday they played Laois, as they have for the past few years, so nothing has changed. They'll end up playing several other teams that they've also being playing in recent years. Some may be under the title of "Leinster Championship", but they are no different than any other meetings they've had with Leinster counties in recent years. Yesterday's match did nothing for Galway or Laois. It is a pointless exercise, ignoring the real problems hurling has.

Galway may not win the All-Ireland this year, but they'll do well, proving yet again that there isn't a problem in the county. They are in fact still the last county to have beaten Kilkenny in the championship. On a good day, if everything clicked, they could do it again. If they don't, it won't be the manager's fault. The players have the ultimate responsibility. The talent is undoubtedly there.

LeoB

No offence meant

Diabhal Beag

Flukey wrote: »

Krustywansock, before McIntyre goes back to Offaly, Galway should go back to Connacht and play in the Connacht Hurling Championship. "There isn't one" you'll say. True, and that is the real problem, and the one that should be addressed. Galway aren't the problem. Mayo, Sligo, Leitrim and Roscommon are. Which of Mayo, Sligo, Leitrim, Galway or Roscommon are most capable of winning the All-Ireland? The answer is obvious. So how come it is Galway that are regarded as the problem? "It would take years to get the others to a competitve level" you'd say. True, so they better get started immediately, hadn't they instead of continually ignoring the problem and even going as far as trying to solve something that isn't a problem? The same goes for Antrim and Ulster.

Don't be worrying about McIntyre. Galway doesn't have any problems in Hurling. All of us that have a real interest in Hurling know that. Unfortunately the GAA doesn't seem to. We have the crazy situation that several Leinster counties aren't allowed to play in their own championship, while Antrim and Galway are, while at the same time the two of them also aren't allowed to play in their championships. Even putting them into Leinster hasn't really changed anything. Yesterday they played Laois, as they have for the past few years, so nothing has changed. They'll end up playing several other teams that they've also being playing in recent years. Some may be under the title of "Leinster Championship", but they are no different than any other meetings they've had with Leinster counties in recent years. Yesterday's match did nothing for Galway or Laois. It is a pointless exercise, ignoring the real problems hurling has.

Galway may not win the All-Ireland this year, but they'll do well, proving yet again that there isn't a problem in the county. They are in fact still the last county to have beaten Kilkenny in the championship. On a good day, if everything clicked, they could do it again. If they don't, it won't be the manager's fault. The players have the ultimate responsibility. The talent is undoubtedly there.

Donegal,Tyrone,Monaghan,Derry,Armagh,Fermanagh.
Cavan,Meath,Carlow,Louth,Longford,Kildare,Wicklow.
Leitrim,Sligo,Mayo,Roscommon.
Kerry,London,New York.

Thats a list of all the minor counties who can't compete against the big teams. There are a few teams that could have a decent match ala Westmeath and Laois.

The GAA can't just order these teams (over half the country) to become competitive. Meanwhile Galway and Antrim struggle in such a perdicament if they were unincluded in the Provinial Championships.

Benhonan

+1

By enforcing your geographically correct championship, you're demeaning the game as a whole. The system at the moment is about having a strong championship with equal treatment for all counties who are of a high enough standard to compete.

LeoB

Flukey that just about sums it up. What the other counties do is their business. Because some counties only pay lip service to Hurling and put in no effort thats not the fault of counties who do things right. I can speak from experience of 2 of the counties you mention and they simply put NO EFFORT in to Hurling at all.

Look at it from a Dublin or Laois point of view, they work extremely hard well I know they do in Dublin anyway and here is another obsticale put in your way.

To take Benhonan point why not put Clare and Antrim into Connacht? Mayo and Roscommon play to see who meets Antrim and Clare play Galway and then ya have your Connacht final. Under the current system Dublin and Laoise are being penalised.
Surely Westmeath and Carlow are more entitled to play in Leinster than either Galway or Antrim.

Back to the op McIntyre is a good man who knows his stuff and will deliver if he is given time

Benhonan

LeoB wrote: »

To take Benhonan point why not put Clare and Antrim into Connacht? Mayo and Roscommon play to see who meets Antrim and Clare play Galway and then ya have your Connacht final. Under the current system Dublin and Laoise are being penalised.
Surely Westmeath and Carlow are more entitled to play in Leinster than either Galway or Antrim.

Having teams like Mayo, Roscommon, Carlow and Westmeath getting the lard bate out of them by top flight counties will put them back even further in terms of development. There is no place for them in the top tier of the championship, regardless of where they happen to be situated.

Your suggestion would be disastrous. By moving Clare to Connacht you're denying them their historical place in the Munster championship, something of which we are hugely proud of here in Clare. You're also equating the Connacht championship to the Munster championship, which is ridiculous because only one team there is within an asses roar of Munster hurling. By moving Galway and Antrim to Leinster you're giving them an opportunity to play good games and improving the quality of a flagging Leinster championship. By moving Clare and Antrim to Connacht you're penalising a good hurling county, and basically creating a new hurling championship that doesn't exist. You said yourself no effort was made in these counties, having Clare, Galway and Antrim take the piss out of them in the championship will not inspire a renewed effort.

Dublin are a team on the way up, and when they take their place at the top podium (if they haven't already) then they'll be glad of the high intensity of the revived Leinster championship and what it brings with it in terms of competitiveness. Galway and Antrim will also be happy with competitive championships. This would not happen by allowing second and third tier hurling counties get the snot beat out of them by their neighbours just because of their geographic location.

LeoB

Benhonan wrote: »

Having teams like Mayo, Roscommon, Carlow and Westmeath getting the lard bate out of them by top flight counties will put them back even further in terms of development. There is no place for them in the top tier of the championship, regardless of where they happen to be situated.

Your suggestion would be disastrous. By moving Clare to Connacht you're denying them their historical place in the Munster championship, something of which we are hugely proud of here in Clare. quote]

We would deny Clare their historical right, until the mid 90s if memory serves me rightly there were a few right beating handed out to Clare and they stuck at it and EVENTUALLY made an impact. The connacht council and G.A.A hurling committees have a job to do but they are not doing it to improve what the province has, likewise Ulster. I actually think we could have an Ulster championship in in anothe 3 or 4 years. If Dublin lose in Leinster they should be let play Ulster finalists at least then we would have some chance of getting to All-Ireland Q/F. What about the Dubs historical right to get or win the chance to play in Leinster Final. This is another hurdle put in the way. It seems the earth can be moved for Galway and Antrim but where is ther earth being moved for Dublin. We could end up playing Galway and Kilkenny and that is not fair on a county who only now have a decent chance of making a breakthrough.

Dublin would have a reasonable chance against Wexford is the other point I was making and the fact Wexford have a pedigree which has helped them against teams like Dublin and Laois over the years. I was not knocking Wexford just saying they have to reproduce the form which often sees them take a big scalp and then fall flat. I think the current situation works against 2 LEINSTER counties, Dublin and Laois.

premierstone

What do you want Leo that they should just hand Dublin a place in a leinster final, if their good enough, and their not far off, then they will get there and they will be all the better for having done so in a more competitive championship, the only major problem I would have with the inclusion of Galway and Antrim into leinster is that it is only for inter county senior championship which is ludicrous if Galway wanted in and Leinster wanted them in then is should have been at every age group and for the club competitions also.

Benhonan

Low blow Leob. For the record we took a few hidings alright, but before the mid 90s there were plenty of times we knocked the bigger names out of the championship. Like Waterford we were never lucky when it came to Munster finals, but we were competitive all along. Can you remember the last time any county in Connacht beat Galway in the championship?

As regards whinging about not being able to win Leinster it's simple: Kilkenny are the best team in Ireland and that looks set to continue for a while. Dublin and Laois are not going to beat them in the next few years anyway, so what difference is it going to make having Galway in the championship? Denying ye the right to get a beating in the Leinster final rather than the semi-final? Please.

For the record I think ye're selling ye'rselves short against Wexford, they're division 2 and Dublin are division 1 mid-table. I'd rank Dublin as being joint third with Offaly and Wexford, and I think that the addition of the other counties will be a bonus to Dublin in the long run.

LeoB

Benhonan wrote: »

Low blow Leob. For the record we took a few hidings alright, but before the mid 90s there were plenty of times we knocked the bigger names out of the championship. Like Waterford we were never lucky when it came to Munster finals, but we were competitive all along. Can you remember the last time any county in Connacht beat Galway in the championship?

As regards whinging about not being able to win Leinster it's simple: Kilkenny are the best team in Ireland and that looks set to continue for a while. Dublin and Laois are not going to beat them in the next few years anyway, so what difference is it going to make having Galway in the championship? Denying ye the right to get a beating in the Leinster final rather than the semi-final? Please.

For the record I think ye're selling ye'rselves short against Wexford, they're division 2 and Dublin are division 1 mid-table. I'd rank Dublin as being joint third with Offaly and Wexford, and I think that the addition of the other counties will be a bonus to Dublin in the long run.

My comment was not meant to be a low blow, Apologies. I like many remember Johnny Callinan, Seamus Durack and them lads bringing great joy to many households in the late 70s.
I am not whinging about not being able to win Leinster but like others point out a number of years ago a huge effort was put into Dublin underage structures and it has lifted the county with some good underage teams over the last few years. Why cant May, Roscommon Derry and Down do the same then we would have 4 championships.
I just strongly feel Galway are being accomadated in Leinster and the draw should see them play Kilkenny in the semi final. Kilkenny or Galway can probably afford to lose a game Dublin cant for the simple reason playing numbers and strenth in depth. Of the top counties, K.K Galway, Cork, Tipp, Waterford all have players not in their first 24 who would get onto Dublin team while Dublin probably have 5 or 6!! Am I selling them short? I dont think Dublin would get a hammering in Leinster final its getting there is he problem. If they did get there it would I think make them more competitive on a yearly basis.

Premierstone, I nor no other Dub wnts to be handed a place in Leinster final but we dont want any unfair obsticale put in the way. The wor has been done but now we have things made more difficult. Would you feel any different? Its not a problem you lads from the "Big" hurling counties have. Probably a fair point about the clubs in and underage teams but would the clubs in Mayo and Roscommon go for it? I dont think so, or the teams in Ulster? Not a hope.

Back to thread McIntyre got it right in my opinion with his selection last Sunday and any unrest will be picked up by Media and the year could a serious negativeeffect on Galway.

CyberDave

LeoB wrote: »

Back to the op McIntyre is a good man who knows his stuff and will deliver if he is given time

The probelm is as usual. He won't be given the time. The county board are too quick to get rid of a manager when he isn't successful. Loughnane should have got another year. He shot himself in the foot by saying that he would deliver in two years. Part of the reason that Kilkenny is so successful is that Cody has been there so long and knows the players inside out. Since 1988 (when Galway last won a senior All-Ireland) Kilkenny have won something like 13 All-Ireland underage titles, Galway have won 11. So, the talent is there. But, the type of player Galway tends to produce are small quick and technically good. There is a huge lack of big ball winning players like Chunky. We need his presence to break the ball. He is definitely morre effective at doing this than Farragher. Word also has it that he has been in great form lately as well in challenge matches. Scoring 0-4 from play against Waterford. Galway have too many other forwards in the Farragher mould, there can't be place for all of them. Take away Farraghers frees during the league and you will see that he has contributed very little from play.

LeoB

CyberDave wrote: »

The probelm is as usual. He won't be given the time. The county board are too quick to get rid of a manager when he isn't successful. Loughnane should have got another year. He shot himself in the foot by saying that he would deliver in two years. Part of the reason that Kilkenny is so successful is that Cody has been there so long and knows the players inside out. Since 1988 (when Galway last won a senior All-Ireland) Kilkenny have won something like 13 All-Ireland underage titles, Galway have won 11. So, the talent is there. But, the type of player Galway tends to produce are small quick and technically good. There is a huge lack of big ball winning players like Chunky. We need his presence to break the ball. He is definitely morre effective at doing this than Farragher. Word also has it that he has been in great form lately as well in challenge matches. Scoring 0-4 from play against Waterford. Galway have too many other forwards in the Farragher mould, there can't be place for all of them. Take away Farraghers frees during the league and you will see that he has contributed very little from play.

Style alone wins very little. Look at Dubs footballers who promise so much most years but dont really deliver. As for Farragher he is a good Hurler but Galway need something different at present.

CyberDave

LeoB wrote: »

Style alone wins very little. Look at Dubs footballers who promise so much most years but dont really deliver. As for Farragher he is a good Hurler but Galway need something different at present.

Are they not exactly the points I was making?

Flukey

"The weaker counties will never make the grade." "A Longford v Louth Leinster Hurling final, with Louth having beaten Kilkenny in the semi-final by 10 points is pure fantasy." "None of the weaker counties have a hope of ever achieving anything, so let's not bother with those counties."

These are the things that people will tell you and use as reasons not to do anything. Let me take you back a small bit. You don't have to go very far back to a time when you heard this kind of stuff:

"Offaly win a Leinster Hurling title? Don't be ridiculous. Win the All-Ireland, the following year? Are you crazy?"

"Galway to win the All-Ireland Hurling title? You are kidding me. They'll do it 3 times in the one decade? They haven't won it at all for nearly 6 decades, so there is no chance."

"Clare to win the Munster Hurling title, something they haven't done for over 60 years, and in the same year win the All-Ireland, after over 80 years! You should be locked up in a secure facility."

"An Ulster team to win the All-Ireland Football title, the first of four wins in a row for Ulster? Are you totally out of your mind? Two out of those four will be first-time winners, including Donegal? Craziness, total craziness."

"Armagh and Tyrone to win the All-Ireland 4 times in total with each of them beating Kerry enroute, 3 of them in finals. What are you smoking?"

"Clare, Leitrim, Westmeath, Sligo, Kildare and Laois to win their Football provincial titles. You should get yourself measured for a strait jacket."

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Well lads, I could go on. Like all of these, there are in fact a few other "crazy" things that have also happened in very recent times that I've left out. As you all know, all of these things have happened and it is not that long ago that they would have been regarded as completely insane, just as insane as a Longford v Louth Leinster Hurling Final would seem to you now, and a lot of them a lot more crazy than that.

Starting with Galway winning the All-Ireland Hurling title in 1980, the same year as Offaly won their first ever Leinster Hurling, who then went on to win the All-Ireland the following year, all of the above "crazy" things have happened. In the history of the GAA, no weaker county has ever won a provincial or All-Ireland title, but lots of counties that were regarded as weaker counties just a few years prior to that, have done exactly that. Lots of the counties I've listed above with their successes would have been regarded as weaker counties just a few years before it and it would have been insane to even consider that they could do it. A lot of them, like Westmeath winning what, don't forget, was their first ever Leinster title in 2003, are well within your memories. Even amongst the youngest of you, it is well within your lifetime that the very idea of that would be totally crazy.

There is the joke about the Donegal captain asking a Kerryman what he should do when Donegal when the All-Ireland. "Well take the Sam Maguire in your left hand, and shake the Queen's hand with your right hand" says the Kerryman. "The Queen will never present the Sam Maguire" says the Donegal captain. "It'll happen before Donegal ever win the Sam Maguire" replies the Kerryman. I remember hearing that only a few years before Donegal did win it. There are other versions, where you heard Donegal exchanged with another county, many of whom now have also achieved success.

A few close things have happened too. Fermanagh came within a whisker of winning their first ever Ulster title last year. They were in an All-Ireland semi final in recent years too. If you suggested that it could happen just a few years ago, you'd probably be still in solitary confinement in a mental institution now, with no chance of release in the foreseeable future. Limerick, whose last Munster Football title was in 1896 threw away a Munster final just a few years back when they were by far the better team on the day.

Clare's win in 1992 was the first non Kerry/Cork win since 1935. Not long before that they were getting the kind of hidings from Cork and Kerry, that many of you are saying would happen if we let some of the Hurling teams play in the championship proper. People were saying it was pointless having more than Kerry and Cork in the Munster football championship.

You can try and say these have happened because of open draws and the qualifiers, but a lot of them weren't. Even ones that did happen when open draws were brought in and qualifiers introduced, still meant they had to go out and beat the same teams that were running them off the pitch a few years before. Clare's Munster Football win in 1992, came in the second year of the open draw in Munster, but Clare still had to beat Kerry, a team that were inflicting embarrassing scores against them a few years before that. Clare beat Kerry in that 1992 final, not the open draw.

All of the things that people are saying in this thread can't happen, actually could. If people get out of the "it'll never happen so let's not bother doing anything" mindset, as people in all of those counties did, it could happen. There won't be a Longford v Louth Leinster Hurling final, with Louth having beaten Kilkenny in the semi-final by 10 points any time soon, but if people dropped the mindset that is rampant throughout this thread and in many parts of the GAA, it could be a lot sooner than you think. As I've shown you.... crazier things have happened.

portumna

Flukey wrote: »

"The weaker counties will never make the grade." "A Longford v Louth Leinster Hurling final, with Louth having beaten Kilkenny in the semi-final by 10 points is pure fantasy." "None of the weaker counties have a hope of ever achieving anything, so let's not bother with those counties."

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All of the things that people are saying in this thread can't happen, actually could. If people get out of the "it'll never happen so let's not bother doing anything" mindset, as people in all of those counties did, it could happen. There won't be a Longford v Louth Leinster Hurling final, with Louth having beaten Kilkenny in the semi-final by 10 points any time soon, but if people dropped the mindset that is rampant throughout this thread and in many parts of the GAA, it could be a lot sooner than you think. As I've shown you.... crazier things have happened.

May I ask what has this got to do with John McIntyre and the Galway Hurling managers position?

Flukey

Many threads end up slipping off topic as they progress Portumna, which is natural. It is the same as any conversation that starts off as one thing and ends up somewhere else. Getting back to the initial topic then, McIntyre can't be held totally responsible for Galway. In any case, they won on Sunday. They'll improve over the summer. He isn't doing a bad job.

premierstone

Flukey wrote: »

Many threads end up slipping off topic as they progress Portumna, which is natural. It is the same as any conversation that starts off as one thing and ends up somewhere else. Getting back to the initial topic then, McIntyre can't be held totally responsible for Galway. In any case, they won on Sunday. They'll improve over the summer. He isn't doing a bad job.

He cant be held in any way responsible for anything he's only been in the job for 5 months and has a 100% record in the championship - although he's disciplinary record is very worrying

premierstone

So OP you still want McIntyre out?

CyberDave

The only mistake McIntyre made on Saturday was to persist with the short puckouts in the second half when it wasn't working, but that was probably more down to the players who were receiving the short puckouts not winning the ball cleanly in the first place.

Despite the reliance on Canning, Galway showed far more heart than they did under Loughnanes leadership, probably down to McIntyres influence.

Galway can only improve from the Kilkenny game. You have to give McIntyre a chance FFS.

portumna

premierstone wrote: »

So OP you still want McIntyre out?

Don't think he'll be replying seeing as he's been banned!

davestar

please delete this topic . any manager that can keep within 5 poins of kilkenny is well worth his place . there were a few mistakes here and there saturday but galway will learn from that . people writing off mcintyre after a 5 point loss to a team that are said to be unbeatabe ? DISGRACE. i see davey fitz is still managing waterford after being wiped out in the all-ireland final , and fair play to him . this iss gaa , not soccer where a manager is let go after 6 months . give the guy a chance!!

portumna

davestar wrote: »

please delete this topic . any manager that can keep within 5 poins of kilkenny is well worth his place . there were a few mistakes here and there saturday but galway will learn from that . people writing off mcintyre after a 5 point loss to a team that are said to be unbeatabe ? DISGRACE. i see davey fitz is still managing waterford after being wiped out in the all-ireland final , and fair play to him . this iss gaa , not soccer where a manager is let go after 6 months . give the guy a chance!!

Easy on there davestar. Have a look at the dates. This was started up before the Laois game and was bumped today. If you look back through the thread you'll see premierstone, Cyberdave and myself defend McIntrye. Premierstone just wanted to see what the OP thought now after a good performance against KK.

davestar

portumna wrote: »

Easy on there davestar. Have a look at the dates. This was started up before the Laois game and was bumped today. If you look back through the thread you'll see premierstone, Cyberdave and myself defend McIntrye. Premierstone just wanted to see what the OP thought now after a good performance against KK.

my bad .

Flukey

Antrim in the Ulster Football Final - another one to add to the list I posted in post #38 of things that people would have thought could not happen but did. That Longford v Louth Leinster senior hurling final edges a little closer.

TheWifeBeater

To the OP I think mcIntyre is on the right track but maybe he has made a few costly mistakes. I mean they produced a good performance against the cats BUT mcIntyre made the mistake of persisting with the same gameplan when things started to turn, also perjaps he needs to instill more discipline into his players e.g richie murray and chunky hayes. But hopefully he'll correct these issues and we can progress. As for farragher i think he is an extreemly talented hurler and showed this when he basically was our best hurler in 2004 beating kilkenny almost on his own, but he isnt suited to physical teams like kilkenny who knows he may be given a chance against clare??