"Lunster" Rugby Supporters ...

leinsterman

Ok, this may be slightly controversial and fogive me if this has been covered here before ... but I've been listening to Leinster (Lunster) people talking through their hat on the radio all day ... they talk about the "D4" element as the reason they support Munster and not their own province ...

Especially that idiot who tried to debate the issue with Reggie Corrigan on Newstalk yesterday ... what a complete twit he made of himself!!

These people have obviously not been to Donnybrook or RDS in years, if ever!! (or for that matter Thomond or Musgrave Park) ...

What people seem to forget is that there is as much of a so called "D4" element amongst the Munster fans as Leinster fans ...

I was raised in working class environment on the north side of Dublin ... going to a school that took Gaelic Football so seriously they even expelled Liam Brady for playing soccer for Ireland and not GAA for his school (according to a slightly suspect urban myth) ...

Munster are playing incredible rugby at the moment ... it is dream to watch them play ... but there is more to supporting a club that that ... it is a "through thick and thin" thing ... I'd never support Munster over Leinster ... there is no excuse for that in my opinion ...

In reality "Lunster" fans are simply bandwagon jumpers ... like the many Londoners who support Manchester United!!

What is most annoying is many of these people would switch to Leinster if they started having success ... well they are NOT welcome!!

Stev_o

Tbh the D4 sterotype thing attached to Leinster is pure BS at the moment and you could equally argue back on the many so called fans that jumped on the Munster bandwagon when they suddenly got popular are. It's a stupid frame of mind and it's just supporting whoever is winning.

But more importantly why can't we all just get along

The Davestator

if someone from Leinster tells you they support Munster, ask them who they are shouting for in the All Ireland Gaa championship this year. Example, a lot of Kilkenny people support Munster but wouldn't dream of supporting anyone other than kilkenny in Hurling. They seem to see a difference between supporting your county and your province.

Its not a choice people, and if you do hop on the munster bandwagon, stay there forever.

leinsterman

Stev_o wrote: »

Tbh the D4 sterotype thing attached to Leinster is pure BS at the moment and you could equally argue back on the many so called fans that jumped on the Munster bandwagon when they suddenly got popular are. It's a stupid frame of mind and it's just supporting whoever is winning.

My point exactly ...

Stev_o wrote: »

But more importantly why can't we all just get along

We a quote from Bill Shankly should help explain that -

"Football [Rugby] is not just a matter of life and death: it's much more important than that"

Sundy

Excellent post Leinsterman

wingnut

The Davestator wrote: »

if someone from Leinster tells you they support Munster, ask them who they are shouting for in the All Ireland Gaa championship this year. Example, a lot of Kilkenny people support Munster but wouldn't dream of supporting anyone other than kilkenny in Hurling. They seem to see a difference between supporting your county and your province.

Its not a choice people, and if you do hop on the munster bandwagon, stay there forever.

Munster have a Kilkenny man on the team.

leinsterman

wingnut wrote: »

Munster have a Kilkenny man on the team.

... so what ... ???


Jaysus ... any excuse ... however tenuous!!

... Leinster have had many Munster players in their squad down through the years ... in fact Kidney was manager at one point ...

EDIT-

John Fogarty is from Cork ...
Trevor Hogan From Nenagh ...

... and on the Munster side - Niall Ronan is from Meath

pickarooney

My Dad (from Kilkenny) is suporting Munster tomorrow as he reckons they're the team with the best chance of winning the final. Bizarre logic (beating Munster would be a hell of a step towards winning the tournament), but there you go.

Sundy

pickarooney wrote: »

My Dad (from Kilkenny) is suporting Munster tomorrow as he reckons they're the team with the best chance of winning the final. Bizarre logic (beating Munster would be a hell of a step towards winning the tournament), but there you go.

I think what your dad means is he wont support Leinster because he is afraid of backing the losing team. Its a cop out

leinsterman

... you have to admire the Muster fans ... they understand loyalty ... but then again their average attendance is less than Leinster ... so they have their own fair weather support too ...

... still maybe we could learn from them ...

Zico

I went to a few Leinster matches at Donnybrook and Lansdowne. But it's loike towtally hard to find porking. It could be a deal breaker, what's the parking like in Limerick?

leinsterman

Zico wrote: »

I went to a few Leinster matches at Donnybrook and Lansdowne. But it's loike towtally hard to find porking. It could be a deal breaker, what's the parking like in Limerick?

Just head to a place called "Moyross" ... you'll get plenty of parking there ... they even have Valet Parking ... just find some kid and hand him your keys ...


EDIT - Save him the bother of smashing your windows ...

Sabre0001

Whenever Munster go through a rough patch again, you'll see a lot more space at Thomond Park and a lot less people so vocal about their support (from Leinster or otherwise). I remember the good ol' days of having no depth to the squad.....Man, those were tough times

fifth

Munster AND Leinster both have their fairweather/bandwagon supporters.

Just so happens munster are doing slightly better than us at the moment.

_blank_

Leinsterman, reduce your sig.

leinsterman

Eamon Dunphy wrote: »

Leinsterman, reduce your sig.

It was only a temporary measure ... but point taken ...

leinsterman

leinsterman wrote: »

Ok, this may be slightly controversial and fogive me if this has been covered here before ... but I've been listening to Leinster (Lunster) people talking through their hat on the radio all day ... they talk about the "D4" element as the reason they support Munster and not their own province ...

Especially that idiot who tried to debate the issue with Reggie Corrigan on Newstalk yesterday ... what a complete twit he made of himself!!

These people have obviously not been to Donnybrook or RDS in years, if ever!! (or for that matter Thomond or Musgrave Park) ...

What people seem to forget is that there is as much of a so called "D4" element amongst the Munster fans as Leinster fans ...

I was raised in working class environment on the north side of Dublin ... going to a school that took Gaelic Football so seriously they even expelled Liam Brady for playing soccer for Ireland and not GAA for his school (according to a slightly suspect urban myth) ...

Munster are playing incredible rugby at the moment ... it is dream to watch them play ... but there is more to supporting a club that that ... it is a "through thick and thin" thing ... I'd never support Munster over Leinster ... there is no excuse for that in my opinion ...

In reality "Lunster" fans are simply bandwagon jumpers ... like the many Londoners who support Manchester United!!

What is most annoying is many of these people would switch to Leinster if they started having success ... well they are NOT welcome!!

I'm from Leinster, and I would support Munster over Leinster.

This isn't bandwagon, I've always supported them since I started understanding rugby.
Why is this?

My family are all from Munster and some have played for them. Hence I grew up in a very Munster orientated family. However, I don't see this as a big issue.
I've been in Thomond and Cork supporting Munster, I've been in Landsdowne and Donnybrook supporting Leinster. Who ever wins tomorrow, I'll cheer them on in the final.

I'll most likely be in either Cork or Dublin next year and I'll get a season ticket for either Munster or Leinster. On the few occasions when both teams meet, I'll back Munster but I'll back any Irish team in the interim. I suppose that makes me a bandwagon leinster fan (if I end up in Dublin) but I am happy to watch good rugby without having to swear allegience to either Paul O'Connel or Brian O'Driscoll before I enter a pitch.

I get a little angry with people giving out about the 'bandwagon' effect. Sports need supporters, Teams need fans. People are naturally attracted to teams that do well (even though I support Wexford Youths FC!) and 'bandwagon' fans buy tickets and gear that supports the game. Just because I've been a fan for longer then someone doesn't make me a better fan, in fact is has pretty much zero impact on me - none of us have monopolies in being rugby fans. Its about time some people started realising that. There will always be someone who has been a fan longer then you. Must you give them your tickets to matches? Must you take of whatever jersey you are wearing in deference to them? Screw that - cheer for your team on pitch, who cares what colour the jersey the guy beside you has.

ch2008

The D4 thing is constantly brought up, even by players (niall ronan and Ian dowling cited it as a reason for opting out of playing for their home province).

Does this make it ok for a leinster player slag off Munster players for being working class or less well off? An article was written recently (ward I think??) where he ridiculed fitzgeralds affluent background vs. earls school of hard knocks. Would it be journalistically (?) valid to ridicule earls?

Are wealthy people worse people?

Does a working class background make you purer of heart and mind?

Does anyone really buy into these stereotypes, especially the players?

The end result is my having to sit through the last leinster/munster game in the rds with a munster fan standing up every 5 mins to shout "Where's your cappuccino now?" or "Why dont you go get the focking DORT?"

Seriously loike, stick to the rugby. Lets not make it a class thing, especially when only one side seem to be allowed take the piss. Its an argument they shouldnt start but can never lose

(from a rare species, a man born in munster but supporting the blues!)

gcgirl

The thing that got me hooked to Munster is their NEVER SAY DIE attitude, Its 10 yrs since i started following Munster and Keith Wood was my fav player at the time, along with the Claw, I loved looking at these lads play rugby.
Leinster have been kind off been cursed with this Ross o Carroll Kelly ****e which for a small amount of fans yes fair enough they are as thick as 2 short planks(Reason once asked guy in Leinster jersey what the score of the match was and he did not know there was a match) but for the majority they are sound, Schools rugby is where its at and i hope club rugby kind of gets as much coverage because rugby is getting in new fans now in Leinster.
Munster Rugby in my own mind is the closest thing you will get to a Gaa Club mentality!

NickNolte

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm from Leinster, and I would support Munster over Leinster.

This isn't bandwagon, I've always supported them since I started understanding rugby.
Why is this?

My family are all from Munster and some have played for them. Hence I grew up in a very Munster orientated family. However, I don't see this as a big issue.
I've been in Thomond and Cork supporting Munster, I've been in Landsdowne and Donnybrook supporting Leinster. Who ever wins tomorrow, I'll cheer them on in the final.

I'll most likely be in either Cork or Dublin next year and I'll get a season ticket for either Munster or Leinster. On the few occasions when both teams meet, I'll back Munster but I'll back any Irish team in the interim. I suppose that makes me a bandwagon leinster fan (if I end up in Dublin) but I am happy to watch good rugby without having to swear allegience to either Paul O'Connel or Brian O'Driscoll before I enter a pitch.

I get a little angry with people giving out about the 'bandwagon' effect. Sports need supporters, Teams need fans. People are naturally attracted to teams that do well (even though I support Wexford Youths FC!) and 'bandwagon' fans buy tickets and gear that supports the game. Just because I've been a fan for longer then someone doesn't make me a better fan, in fact is has pretty much zero impact on me - none of us have monopolies in being rugby fans. Its about time some people started realising that. There will always be someone who has been a fan longer then you. Must you give them your tickets to matches? Must you take of whatever jersey you are wearing in deference to them? Screw that - cheer for your team on pitch, who cares what colour the jersey the guy beside you has.

I'm pretty much with you all the way there. I'm a Leinster supporter primarily but of course I'll cheer on Munster should they make it to the final. I spend enough time cheering on so many of the boys in red when they're wearing green, never mind the fact that they're my compatriots, that it would be reasonably hypocritical not to. Likewise I'll cheer on Ulster and Connacht when they're playing, particularly as I have a vested interest in some of their players at international level.

I don't have a huge problem with 'bandwagon jumpers'/new fans myself as such. If support for rugby is growing in Ireland, that can only be a good thing where the overall success of the provinces and the national team is concerned. I do have a problem with the attitude of a lot of 'new' rugby fans though. The media have a lot of answer for as well as they seem to spend as much time provoking soccer-like inter-provincial rivalries as they do actually analysing rugby. They seem to be grooming rugby for adoption by the unwashed, uninitiated masses. The net effect of this can be seen on this forum on an almost daily basis. Idiots, most of whom I would say have never played a game of rugby in their lives, spewing bile against their perceived 'enemies' and abusing fans and players alike because, well, they're morons, they have nothing better to do and they know very little about rugby to necessitate an intelligent debate.

I have no problem with a bit of friendly banter and even ripping the other team's supporters when they lose but it should only really be secondary to a healthy respect for the sport. As someone who played rugby for nearly 20 years, and I'm sure there are plenty of experienced players who surf this forum, you have to keep a very level head on the pitch. Rugby players don't dive and roll along the ground, looking for penalties. They don't get thick with the referee. Rugby isn't football and rugby fans should take a leaf out of the players books and have a bit of respect. Anyone who's put their body on the line for 80 minutes knows the futility (and stupidity) of being personally abusive towards a player or even other rugby fans.

Munster supporters who are indifferent to Leinster's success and vice versa are fine. I don't understand it myself but maybe that's just me. But any new 'fans' who think that they can take their bitterness and vomit from whatever sport they were watching previously over to rugby... don't bother. It's just not that kind of sport.

pickarooney

Sundy wrote: »

I think what your dad means is he wont support Leinster because he is afraid of backing the losing team. Its a cop out

I asked him specifically if Contepomi had a kick to win the match would he want him to land or miss. He said miss. He's a bit mad though.

leinsterman

gcgirl wrote: »

Leinster have been kind off been cursed with this Ross o Carroll Kelly ****e which for a small amount of fans yes fair enough they are as thick as 2 short planks

Tell me about it ... I was very red faced after they announced the Ireland matches would be played in Croke Park and I overheard two guys on the plane to Toulouse for the Quarter Final talking about it being a "total disaster" ... qualified by "... there are no pubs over in that part of the city" ... in their best D4 accents ...

NickNolte

NickNolte wrote: »

I'm pretty much with you all the way there. I'm a Leinster supporter primarily but of course I'll cheer on Munster should they make it to the final. I spend enough time cheering on so many of the boys in red when they're wearing green, never mind the fact that they're my compatriots, that it would be reasonably hypocritical not to. Likewise I'll cheer on Ulster and Connacht when they're playing, particularly as I have a vested interest in some of their players at international level.

I don't have a huge problem with 'bandwagon jumpers'/new fans myself as such. If support for rugby is growing in Ireland, that can only be a good thing where the overall success of the provinces and the national team is concerned. I do have a problem with the attitude of a lot of 'new' rugby fans though. The media have a lot of answer for as well as they seem to spend as much time provoking soccer-like inter-provincial rivalries as they do actually analysing rugby. They seem to be grooming rugby for adoption by the unwashed, uninitiated masses. The net effect of this can be seen on this forum on an almost daily basis. Idiots, most of whom I would say have never played a game of rugby in their lives, spewing bile against their perceived 'enemies' and abusing fans and players alike because, well, they're morons, they have nothing better to do and they know very little about rugby to necessitate an intelligent debate.

I have no problem with a bit of friendly banter and even ripping the other team's supporters when they lose but it should only really be secondary to a healthy respect for the sport. As someone who played rugby for nearly 20 years, and I'm sure there are plenty of experienced players who surf this forum, you have to keep a very level head on the pitch. Rugby players don't dive and roll along the ground, looking for penalties. They don't get thick with the referee. Rugby isn't football and rugby fans should take a leaf out of the players books and have a bit of respect. Anyone who's put their body on the line for 80 minutes knows the futility (and stupidity) of being personally abusive towards a player or even other rugby fans.

Munster supporters who are indifferent to Leinster's success and vice versa are fine. I don't understand it myself but maybe that's just me. But any new 'fans' who think that they can take their bitterness and vomit from whatever sport they were watching previously over to rugby... don't bother. It's just not that kind of sport.

Excellent point - the banter of the games, both at or else in a pub/flat etc is something that I really enjoy. But you are correct that some of the soccer tribalism is creeping in which may be quite detrimental to the sport in the long run.

cailinardthair

i was born in leinster, family from both munster and ulster and i've been living in connacht for the last 18 years! i'l support all four province in anything! but i like connacht to win!
i can understand why there be a alot of lunster fans bercause they've won twice and some people have family in the munster team! thats grand but i wish more people from leinster would support them and not use the 'D4' excuse anymore! theres alot of people in leinster that arent from D4! d'racy and horgan arent!
good luck to the two teams tomorrow! they've done us proud so far!

NickNolte

leinsterman wrote: »

Tell me about it ... I was very red faced after they announced the Ireland matches would be played in Croke Park and I overheard two guys on the plane to Toulouse for the Quarter Final talking about it being a "total disaster" ... qualified by "... there are no pubs over in that part of the city" ... in their best D4 accents ...

There'll always be the odd D4 head who will fit the stereotype. D4 Dort heads do exist in the province of Leinster and a lot of them will support Leinster but they're in the minority. Nothing to be embarrassed about as they're not representative of Leinster supporters as a whole. Even if some people would have you believe different. I've come across my fair share of tribally myopic Munster supporters with seriously bitter chips on their shoulders but I know that they're only a small minority. Again, nothing to be embarrassed about if you're a real Munster supporter.

Whether you're from Leinster or Munster, you have to share your province with a few ****. That's just the nature of it.

gcgirl

NickNolte wrote: »

There'll always be the odd D4 head who will fit the stereotype. D4 Dort heads do exist in the province of Leinster and a lot of them will support Leinster but they're in the minority. Nothing to be embarrassed about as they're not representative of Leinster supporters as a whole. Even if some people would have you believe different. I've come across my fair share of tribally myopic Munster supporters with seriously bitter chips on their shoulders but I know that they're only a small minority. Again, nothing to be embarrassed about if you're a real Munster supporter.

Whether you're from Leinster or Munster, you have to share your province with a few ****. That's just the nature of it.

I just laugh at them because i know what my club is like and they are fine and one of the things about rugby is that every fan gets on with each other there is no segregation i have no quams about bringing my young son to a match and he loves rugby, those bringing the soccer mentalty with them can stay where they are !

damselnat

As a friend of mine said to a recent convert just yesterday -
"Welcome to the club mate - it's the best club in the world!
And it ain't Leinster
And it ain't Munster;






It's rugby!"

Tim Robbins

leinsterman wrote: »

Ok, this may be slightly controversial and fogive me if this has been covered here before ... but I've been listening to Leinster (Lunster) people talking through their hat on the radio all day ... they talk about the "D4" element as the reason they support Munster and not their own province ...

All that stuff really gets my back up. My sympathies to you.

cailinardthair

damselnat wrote: »

As a friend of mine said to a recent convert just yesterday -
"Welcome to the club mate - it's the best club in the world!
And it ain't Leinster
And it ain't Munster;






It's rugby!"

here here!
thats the way it should be!!

leinsterman

Don't get me wrong ... If you choose to support Munster over Leinster then fine ...

I was at the final last year shouting for Munster ... and also at the one they lost against Leicester ... I will always support an Irish team against one from another country ...

And I love watching Munster rugby at the moment ... it is a joy to behold ... albeit I'll be happy if they provide us with one of their rare dull moments tomorrow ...

The point I'm really making is this "D4" issue being used as a reason not to support Leinster ... this is what gets my goat ... its wrong, its unfair, its opportunist ... and the people making this point are usually ones who are not clued in to the sport for the most part ...... as demonstrated by the fella on Newstalk who debated the issue with Reggie Corrigan ...

I'm from D9, grew up with no rugby at all, only soccer and GAA ... I was converted by a friend of mine who played for "Belvo" when, tired of hearing the gripes from the chip on my shoulder, he brought me to see my first ever rugby match at Twickenham at the delicate age of 23 or so in 1989 ... it was All Blacks v Barbarians ... I was an instant convert ... after many years of "tribalism" at Anfield and Dalymount ... I really liked the idea of non segragation in the crowd ... and the sport, well it speaks for itself and since then has gone from strength to strength.

What also appeals to me is to have a local team to support who have a chance of sucess on an international stage ... and occasionally play a brand of the sport of which we can be proud.

... in the words of the movie ... "I'm black and I'm proud of it" ... and I don't mind standing next to people from D4 supporting my team ... and if they want to look down on me ... well, that is their loss ...

Muster fans demonstrate one thing - You can't have passion without loyalty!

Orizio

I generally find this griping about 'bandwagoning' and so on to be unsightly, and most importantly short-sighted. I can remember vividly Rugby fans complaining not so long ago about the Irish people not supporting the national team enough, about the negative attitude of the Irish people towards Rugby etc, and now with Rugby becoming increasingly popular the same people are complaining about bandwagon supporters and about the game's purity being diluted due to new fans. These people simply like to complain, and whine, and fail to see the hypocritical, petty nature of their arguments.

NickNolte

Orizio wrote: »

I generally find this griping about 'bandwagoning' and so on to be unsightly, and most importantly short-sighted. I can remember vividly Rugby fans complaining not so long ago about the Irish people not supporting the national team enough, about the negative attitude of the Irish people towards Rugby etc, and now with Rugby becoming increasingly popular the same people are complaining about bandwagon supporters and about the game's purity being diluted due to new fans. These people simply like to complain, and whine, and fail to see the hypocritical, petty nature of their arguments.

Personally I think you're completely wrong. It's about the attitude that fans bring to the game. Petty bitching is, IMO, a problem.

Orizio

NickNolte wrote: »

Personally I think you're completely wrong. It's about the attitude that fans bring to the game. Petty bitching is, IMO, a problem.

Thats nice. Care to elaborate?

Serenity Now!

leinsterman wrote: »

Tell me about it ... I was very red faced after they announced the Ireland matches would be played in Croke Park and I overheard two guys on the plane to Toulouse for the Quarter Final talking about it being a "total disaster" ... qualified by "... there are no pubs over in that part of the city" ... in their best D4 accents ...

They're right. Quinns and that other dump are kips.

NickNolte

Orizio wrote: »

Thats nice. Care to elaborate?

How can I elaborate? I just have a problem with Munster or Leinster fans making personal attacks on players or other fans in a caustic, bad natured manner. I don't think it needs any elaboration.

Orizio

NickNolte wrote: »

How can I elaborate? I just have a problem with Munster or Leinster fans making personal attacks on players or other fans in a caustic, bad natured manner. I don't think it needs any elaboration.

What the **** has that got to do with my post? Nowhere did I say personal insults or pettiness were good things, the complete opposite in fact if you re-read.

Y2J_MUFC

The Davestator wrote: »

if someone from Leinster tells you they support Munster, ask them who they are shouting for in the All Ireland Gaa championship this year. Example, a lot of Kilkenny people support Munster but wouldn't dream of supporting anyone other than kilkenny in Hurling. They seem to see a difference between supporting your county and your province

Nonsense of the highest order. I'm from Kilkenny, but I will prefer Munster to win tomorrow for the following reasons:

1. Number of Kilkenny men on the Leinster team: ZERO.

2. Number of Kilkenny men on the Munster team: ONE.

At the end of the day, its my choice, i live in Limerick and I'm supporting a fellow Kilkenny man playing for the local side over here. Anybody who doesn't like it, can kiss my hole.

Judgement Day

Am I a Lunster - I don't think so? I have followed rugby since the late 1960s, lived in Leinster for most of my life, born in London and hold a British passport, support rugby teams that play superb, spirited rugby (All Blacks, Ireland, England on their day, Wales in the 1970s and, of course, Munster! There is plenty of good natured slagging between supporters about Dublin 4, Leinster Ladyboys, Leinster fans not travelling well (Croke Park being in alien territory) etc.etc. but that's all it is and anyone seeking to make more out of it is barking up the wrong tree. The Leinster team is stacked with great players but Munster have it all - great players, great team spirit, self belief and determination. In the unlikely event that Munster loses the semi-final I will have no difficulty in switching my support to Leinster to crush Cardiff in the final!

ironingbored

Y2J_MUFC wrote: »

Anybody who doesn't like it, can kiss my hole.

Nice attitude. Did you get that from your prawn sandwich days at Old Trafford?

Back on topic, both my brother and father are Lunsters. I cannot fathom how someone can support another province over the one they were born and bred in. Neither have any connection whatsoever with Munster but rattle out the old cliches anytime I ask.

Anyone who goes to Leinster's games know that the D4 element is dwindling. There are loads of supporters from Kildare, Meath, Wicklow as well as from many non-rugby areas of the city.

However, if Leinster lose tomorrow, I will be supporting Munster in the final. I hate to find Munster supporters who will not recipricate as it completely goes against the ethos of rugby.

Y2J_MUFC

ironingbored wrote: »

Nice attitude. Did you get that from your prawn sandwich days at Old Trafford?

I started following United in the 1990 season when I was 5, because my dad supports them. I do believe Liverpool won the league that season. I will continue to do so, win, lose or draw for the rest of my life. Prawn Sandwiches? How original. :rolleyes:

When you become a dictator, you can tell me who to support. Until that day, its my choice :rolleyes:

Put the effort into supporting you team, rather than preaching rubbish to others. What gives anyone the authority to dictate peoples natural feelings towards a team? Why is somebodies opinion more valid than others? Nobody has to justify any decision to support a team to you, the OP, or anybody.

I'll be supporting Munster tomorrow, thats my choice and I don't particularly care what anybody thinks. End of story.

Teg Veece

leinsterman wrote: »

... you have to admire the Muster fans ... they understand loyalty ... but then again their average attendance is less than Leinster ... so they have their own fair weather support too ...

... still maybe we could learn from them ...

Munster's average attendance is higher than Leinster's this season.

On the topic of Leinster isolating fans outside of Dublin, I'm not sure if the fan campaign of taking over Hill 16 was the best idea, imo.

zAbbo

Have been a season ticket holder for last few years and haven't seen any of the stereotypical d4 rugby heads, just normal passionate rugby fans from all over the province.

Big hello to all the new posters here

Fishtits

Am I the only one who is detecting an emergence of hatred/aggression between rival supporters?

Given its recent surge in popularity, rugby seems to have attracted many supporters who are not in tune with the ethos behind the game

Please guys & gals, its played on the pitch and left there. We all go for drinks and are the best of friends afterwards.

Be Good.

Serenity Now!

Anyone who thinks that Leinster fans are the stereotypical D4 snoots should get themselves to Connolly and Heuston stations tomorrow and listen to a few of the accents of the supporters as they arrive from all over the province. Members of clubs like Carlow, Boyne (Towns cup winners), Ashbourne, Navan, Nth Kildare, Naas etc etc might take a wee bit of offence at this stupid generalism.

Funny you all seem to get on so well at the Ireland games! Ain't tribalism silly and trite? lol

Y2J_MUFC

Serenity Now! wrote: »

Funny you all seem to get on so well at the Ireland games! Ain't tribalism silly and trite? lol

I do agree, its all a bit silly.

But I do take offense to somebody telling me who I should support because of what they believe.

Get on with supporting your team of choice and enjoy the game rather than criticising others.

danthefan

The OLSC has become a very important part of the Leinster support and they are right at the core of things, working their asses off for us fans. I don't think any of the committee come from anywhere near D4 (in fact I know more than one are not from Dublin) and I don't think many/any went to a rugby school.

Leinster rugby = D4 is a myth, it gets propagated in the media and those easily persuaded who want to believe it just lap it up.

LostinBlanch

Well if Munster can call Leinster ladyboys etc then it stands to reason that anyone from Leinster who supports Munster tomorrow are crossdressers!

Feck it, get off the bandwagon and support your province, whatever it is. And after tomorrow support the Irish province in the final and good luck to them, whoever they are.

dreamer_ire

I'm a Lucster.... 20 years Munster, 7 Ulster, 5 Leinster and 4 Connacht and that's the order I shout for the provences!

The important thing to remember about this Lunster thing and whatever,is that a lot of people who went to private schools do not deserved to be tarred with this Leinster D4 Ross O'Carroll Kelly tag.

Regardless of what % they make up in the crowd,there are very few that would be anything but friendly to Munster fans and are just supporters of Rugby.
I went to a private school and Live on the southside.I also enjoy a Heinken now and again,well now tbh:D

But I dont look down on anyone or walk around like I own the place.I am not hugely wealthy,Im just a normal person like everyone else.
I just like rugby and I support the province where im from.
I dont like being tarred with this brush though.

If you take into account that in ireland,everywhere except Limerick rugby is a middle class game,then its only natural that in the schools where its played,they will be mostly private.So people from a certain background will be attracted to rugby.
By reading the media and listening to the radio,you would think that if someone who didnt go to a private school turned up at a Leinster match they would be tarred and feathered.This is just plain wrong and shows downright ignorance.

Am I to be ridiculed or used as a scapegoat because of the school I went to?
That goes against everything that I think it means to be Irish.

The irish media really need to look at Munster in more detail.
As many supporters from Cork went to a private school as Dublin supporters did,the same goes for players,in fairness though that shouldnt matter.

No one should ever feel guilty about supporting their team because of their background.

Madworld

About 80% of Munster fans and Leinster fans have jumped on the bandwagen. Look at the average Heineken Cup Attendance for Leinster in 96/97 season: 3750. Look at the figures for this year. Irish people love to jump on bandwagons. Bernard Dunne does well in boxing. We all love boxing. If Bohs got into the group stages in the Champions League. We all supported Bohs all ou lives.Anyway I prefer seeing people supporting irish teams anyway than going over to liverpool and london to buy tickets for a team where most the proper home supporters dont even like them

NickNolte

Nothing wrong with bandwagon jumpers or new fans provided they bring the right attitude.