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Ive stolen my next door neighbours cat

  • 01-05-2009 1:12pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭


    Hi guys


    Im a newbie here so bear with me here its not as bad as you think. Theres a beautiful white cat comes around are back and ive befriened it by giviing it some cheese and milk which it loves. But lately ive found it to be around all the time. It camps out in are garden and waits to be fed. It sits on a window sill and looks in at the television. It runs into are house and camps itself on top of my bed. Its very cute but the problem its its our neighbours cat. And it now doesnt go anywere near them as it seems that its better off here. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    It's their cat dude...You can't just take it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭NOGMaxpower


    cats will go where the food is... stop feeding it!

    cheese isn't very good for a cats digestive system though poor fecker must be doing some runny poos.

    Just tell your neighbour, then go to a rescue pound and rescue your own cat since you seem to like them. what would you rather, steal your neighbours cat or save one from being put to sleep.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    stop feeding it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,613 ✭✭✭✭Clare Bear


    Ye're being a bit harsh. The cat obviously prefers him to the neighbours, he hasn't stolen him! OP if you want the cat to go away stop feeding him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    You really need to stop feeding it. Unless an animal looks like it is in serious danger of starving you should never feed it. It's not fair on the owner and you have no idea if it is on a special diet due to diabetes or similar.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Cats are lactose intolerant. The poor thing probably goes home and ****s all over the owner's carpet and they've no idea what's wrong with it.

    Stop feeding it, and stop letting it into your house, at least until you know who owns it. Our downstairs neighbour has two cats, one of whom is very fond of coming into our house, but we only let him in when they're not around and if it's a cold or wet day. As soon as they come home, he gets thrown out to go down to them. He also gets thrown out around 8pm because that's when he gets fed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭James Mcfadden


    Hey guys I think your taking the story a little to serious I understand its the neighbours cat and it always will be. I like the cat coming aroung and its not doing it any harm. I work full time so I wouldnt be able to keep a pet so this suits me and the cat fine. its a good arrangement to be honest. I just though it was a funny little story thats all I didnt mean any harm. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    It happens all the time, but it is good to be aware of what cats should and shouldn't eat. They love milk but it's bad for them :)

    My OH had a cat in their family home who started going missing at one point. He'd go missing for a couple of days here and there, the odd night here and there, and when he was at home, he was a bit ill and wouldn't eat. He had special dietary needs due to internal damage he'd received after being hit by a car.
    Then one day he turns up with a note in his collar from someone who wasn't sure if he was a stray (wearing a collar FFS) saying that he was turning up at their house and they were feeding him and keeping him in some nights, with a phone number to ring if the owner wanted to give him away. Needless to say the number was called and a few choice words given down the phone :)

    Not to say that you shouldn't be nice to cats, but you should make contact with the owner before feeding it or keeping it in your house. If you don't know who owns it, leave it outside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭anniehoo


    Hey guys I think your taking the story a little to serious I understand its the neighbours cat and it always will be. I like the cat coming aroung and its not doing it any harm. I work full time so I wouldnt be able to keep a pet so this suits me and the cat fine. its a good arrangement to be honest. I just though it was a funny little story thats all I didnt mean any harm. :(

    Yeh i agree James,theres few abrupt comments being said on a harmless enough post. Just have a friendly natter with the neighbour letting them know their cat is hangin around yours in case theyre ever wondering where he is and put a halt to the scraps as hard as itll be to ignore him ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭James Mcfadden


    anniehoo wrote: »
    Yeh i agree James,theres few abrupt comments being said on a harmless enough post. Just have a friendly natter with the neighbour letting them know their cat is hangin around yours in case theyre ever wondering where he is and put a halt to the scraps as hard as itll be to ignore him ;)


    Yeah thank you Anniehoo, at the end of the day a little piece of food here and there I dont think is doinng the cat any harm. I rarely give the cat milk and I will now know not to give it any milk any more. I do give it the odd strip og grated cheese that it loves. To be fair guys Id rather see a fat cat than a skinny one. This cat is extremley heathty and its being spoiled by its owner and neigbour once in a while I really dont see any harm.

    Any more funny cat stories would be appericated!:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭anniehoo


    Yeah thank you Anniehoo, at the end of the day a little piece of food here and there I dont think is doinng the cat any harm.
    The only thing is as Iguana says you dont know if the cat is a diabetic (which shouldnt really be left roaming anyway) but if it eats any food outside of its insulin time slots it will affect its glucose curve i.e.not a good thing. Its probably not likely but as hes not yours its better to be safe than sorry thats all as he could have any kind of allergy or intolerance. Plenty of playing and belly rubs and he'll still love ya :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    I didnt mean any harm. :(

    We all have incredibly high pet horses here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 997 ✭✭✭MsFifers


    The same thing is going on with me! But its not my fault!!!

    The next door neighbour's kitten (well nearly a cat now) is always in my house. As I already have cats and leave food out for them at all times, I can't not feed it, as it just takes what is there. It comes in any open window - no matter how difficult it is to climb. It seems to be obsessed with me.

    I spoke to my neighbours and brought the cat back to them over & again, and the little thing just comes back. It sits outside the patio door with huuuuuuuuuuge eyes looking sad, and will stay there in rain and everything.

    My neighbours have said it now refuses to eat when they try to feed it, so I've given them some of my type of cat food but it still insists on coming over.

    It has actually climbed in in the middle of the night and burrowed in under the covers of my bed to snuggle me. That was a quite a surprise let me tell you! :eek:

    People who have commented here have no idea about the difficulty of this kind of situation let me tell you!! ;) I think we should set up a support group James McFadden.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭PurpleBerry


    James, could you maybe mention to your neighbours that their gorgeous cat seems to like your yard/house and you enjoy the company so, if they don't mind, maybe you could cat-sit?

    That way they know where the cat is and can give you instructions if necessary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭James Mcfadden


    MsFifers wrote: »
    The same thing is going on with me! But its not my fault!!!

    The next door neighbour's kitten (well nearly a cat now) is always in my house. As I already have cats and leave food out for them at all times, I can't not feed it, as it just takes what is there. It comes in any open window - no matter how difficult it is to climb. It seems to be obsessed with me.

    I spoke to my neighbours and brought the cat back to them over & again, and the little thing just comes back. It sits outside the patio door with huuuuuuuuuuge eyes looking sad, and will stay there in rain and everything.

    My neighbours have said it now refuses to eat when they try to feed it, so I've given them some of my type of cat food but it still insists on coming over.

    It has actually climbed in in the middle of the night and burrowed in under the covers of my bed to snuggle me. That was a quite a surprise let me tell you! :eek:

    People who have commented here have no idea about the difficulty of this kind of situation let me tell you!! ;) I think we should set up a support group James McFadden.


    Maybe we should Msfiffers this one does exactly the same things you are saying. It waits and waits at my back door then it looks up with those big innocent eyes. I open the door it sprints in and does not remove itself unless its lifted out or some food is thrown outside for it.
    Oneday i was in the living room and it just walks into the room it must have got in through the window.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 callaghanjp


    I seem to have adopted two not one. They are always at the back door in the morning and again waiting for me in the eve. One is actually fast asleep in front of the fire at the mo. I do feed them but I dont know if they are strays or belong to the neighbours. Anyway I wont see them go hungry and will take my chances with the neighbours if they ever come calling.!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭James Mcfadden


    I seem to have adopted two not one. They are always at the back door in the morning and again waiting for me in the eve. One is actually fast asleep in front of the fire at the mo. I do feed them but I dont know if they are strays or belong to the neighbours. Anyway I wont see them go hungry and will take my chances with the neighbours if they ever come calling.!!

    Yeah well said, good for you.

    Since I started the thread the has been a new addition that has joined and another. 3 cats are now outside sprawled out on my driveway waiting for the grub. So ive stopped and only feed the first one I reckon the others are just chancers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Alfasudcrazy


    I am often afraid that could happen my white cat. She is so friendly and likes her comforts etc.
    I think I am safe though as she only wants to eat from her own tray. There's no way she would eat from our other cats tray even if it means she has to go hungry.

    You should alert the neighbours in a friendly way about THEIR cat. Stop feeding it and leaving it in.
    Perhaps the neighbours would give you the cat if it seems to prefer it in your home but don't take it yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Thats funny, word seems to have got around the cat community that there is a cat lover handing out free food :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    We've pretty much adopted a cat too.

    It belonged to a family down the road but it kept wandering up to our place. After about three times bringing it back to the family, they said it was pointless for them to take the cat back if it was just going to keep coming back to us again.

    The only reason I can think of as to why he kept coming back to us is that he had kittens (with a cat belonging to a local farmer) and they lived in our fir trees for a while. The kittens were feral so we couldn't tame them but did see them running around the place for a few weeks. They disappeared after a while and so did the mother (probably went back to the farmer)

    Anyways, while we don't really own this cat and we still treat him more like a stray than a pet (my family aren't really cat people, so he's not let inside the house) we always feed him and he sleeps in our old car.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    Adopting a cat that you don't take full responsibility for has drawbacks for the cat.

    Nobody worms it. Nobody vaccinates it. Nobody takes it to the vet as soon as it appears ill. Nobody puts up posters or advertises when it's missing, so nobody realises it's on death row in the pound after being picked up by the council. All because the shared ownership people each believe "Well, I'm only feeding it, which is no harm, but it's really not my cat".

    Just figure out in your own head - as an outside cat, the animal is prone to injury from a number of sources. If it's savaged by a dog or hit by a car, and YOUR house is the one it drags itself to, are you going to shut the door on it and hope it goes away, because it's not your cat, or are you going to put it straight in the car and take it to the vet?

    Make a decision, in theory, now - because no animal deserves to be left waiting while you make up your mind on whether or not it's your responsibility if it's injured.

    I'm not saying any of you would leave a hurt animal hurt - but what if it's a non-life-threatening injury - like a growing tumor, or an abscess, or a large cut - something that doesn't appear to be causing the animal immediate distress, but which will be a problem if ignored. The sort of thing, in other words, where if it was YOUR pet and you recognised it as yours, you'd be off to the vet with it - what if the share-pet pops in with something like that wrong with it?

    The unfortunate thing is by attracting someone else's animal to your home, you can often make the owning family feel like it's not their cat any more too, so they feel less responsible for it - and suddenly nobody's really looking out for Felix the Feral at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭James Mcfadden


    Adopting a cat that you don't take full responsibility for has drawbacks for the cat.

    Nobody worms it. Nobody vaccinates it. Nobody takes it to the vet as soon as it appears ill. Nobody puts up posters or advertises when it's missing, so nobody realises it's on death row in the pound after being picked up by the council. All because the shared ownership people each believe "Well, I'm only feeding it, which is no harm, but it's really not my cat".

    Just figure out in your own head - as an outside cat, the animal is prone to injury from a number of sources. If it's savaged by a dog or hit by a car, and YOUR house is the one it drags itself to, are you going to shut the door on it and hope it goes away, because it's not your cat, or are you going to put it straight in the car and take it to the vet?

    Make a decision, in theory, now - because no animal deserves to be left waiting while you make up your mind on whether or not it's your responsibility if it's injured.

    I'm not saying any of you would leave a hurt animal hurt - but what if it's a non-life-threatening injury - like a growing tumor, or an abscess, or a large cut - something that doesn't appear to be causing the animal immediate distress, but which will be a problem if ignored. The sort of thing, in other words, where if it was YOUR pet and you recognised it as yours, you'd be off to the vet with it - what if the share-pet pops in with something like that wrong with it?

    The unfortunate thing is by attracting someone else's animal to your home, you can often make the owning family feel like it's not their cat any more too, so they feel less responsible for it - and suddenly nobody's really looking out for Felix the Feral at all.


    Like I said before the cat still lives next door! It goes home every night and it only comes over to mine once a day sometimes it doesnt sometimes it does.

    Maybe my title wasnt the best but it was meant to be an upbeat story and I understand what your saying but you and some of the other guys are taking the thread way to serious and over the top. :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭James Mcfadden


    Saruman wrote: »
    Thats funny, word seems to have got around the cat community that there is a cat lover handing out free food :D


    Its like a Mcdonalds drive thru for them. I couldnt believe that the one other ones knew exactly what to do as the other one. It was so odd but I dont feed the others just the one next door. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭ValerieR


    Cats and their double lives !! :D

    Our neighbours got cats before we started out with our own menagerie ... and at that time, their kittens were constantly in our house, comfortably sprawled on our sofa while they were away at work. :) We loved them so much that, occasionally, we would push them out from the back window when we could hear our neighbours calling out for them, not realising what kind of a double life their cats were leading ! :O
    We don't see them much these days ... having a dog has a lot to do with it :)
    ValerieR


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭James Mcfadden


    ValerieR wrote: »
    Cats and their double lives !! :D

    Our neighbours got cats before we started out with our own menagerie ... and at that time, their kittens were constantly in our house, comfortably sprawled on our sofa while they were away at work. :) We loved them so much that, occasionally, we would push them out from the back window when we could hear our neighbours calling out for them, not realising what kind of a double life their cats were leading ! :O
    We don't see them much these days ... having a dog has a lot to do with it :)
    ValerieR


    LOL.....yeah this one sprawls itself were ever it wants now. On the rug on my bed behind the toilet in the shower. Then it gets some grub and sods off :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭Munster Gal


    My mother has a cat calling to her and 2 other houses so it timeshares between 4 houses in total. He calls in, lies in the sunroom for a while and moves on. Everyone knows who he belongs to so there's no extra feeding or worming going on. When his owners go on holidays one of the other 3 families take him in. It works for everybody and the cat is lavished with attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    Like I said before the cat still lives next door! It goes home every night and it only comes over to mine once a day sometimes it doesnt sometimes it does.

    Maybe my title wasnt the best but it was meant to be an upbeat story and I understand what your saying but you and some of the other guys are taking the thread way to serious and over the top. :mad:

    I'm not taking this thread "too seriously". I'm not saying "You're not allowed spend time with your neighbour's cat and it's not allowed spend time with you." I'm just pointing out how the cat can lose out on the multiple ownership front - cats don't just need attention and food.

    It wouldn't kill you to call your neighbour and ask if the animal has anything going on that means you shouldn't be feeding it - or clarify with the owners that you ARE occasionally feeding it, so they understand if it seems off its food at home. You could also allow it to come and go to and from your home as it pleases and NOT feed it.

    To give you an example, a cat being off its food is one of the first signs of illness - cats are more difficult to monitor health-wise than dogs, because if a dog is sick it'll sulk and mope and let you know, but cats hide their pain and illnesses. However, if its off its food because it's eating at yours - well obviously there's nothing for the owner to worry about.

    There's a mindset related to cats - that they're independent, unaffectionate, food whores who'll wander widely and have nine lives and they'll be all right generally. Your dog would do the same thing - if you let it. But it's considered irresponsible dog ownership to allow your dog to roam like that. Cats don't have the same status.

    I help out with fostering for a local cat shelter, and I've seen the fallout for cats who are owned by everybody and nobody. In one case, a family who were the original owners of the cat moved house without it - apparently because they felt that the people it spent more time with were its real owners. The new family were a bunch of kids who adored the cat, but their dad didn't want them to have one (not a cat person). The kids played with it and fed it and it slept outside. When the owning family moved, the father was extremely annoyed that they'd left "their" cat beind - he stopped his kids from feeding and playing with it. It ended up four weeks later at the shelter, and the poor thing had no idea what it had done - it went from being loved and having attention lavished on it to having no home at all and living in a wire cage - thankfully at a no-kill shelter.

    And as for a collar meaning it's owned - all a collar means is that someone owned the cat for long enough to put a collar on it. The shelters and pounds are chock FULL of cats wearing collars and nobody comes looking for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭James Mcfadden


    I'm not taking this thread "too seriously". I'm not saying "You're not allowed spend time with your neighbour's cat and it's not allowed spend time with you." I'm just pointing out how the cat can lose out on the multiple ownership front - cats don't just need attention and food.

    It wouldn't kill you to call your neighbour and ask if the animal has anything going on that means you shouldn't be feeding it - or clarify with the owners that you ARE occasionally feeding it, so they understand if it seems off its food at home. You could also allow it to come and go to and from your home as it pleases and NOT feed it.

    To give you an example, a cat being off its food is one of the first signs of illness - cats are more difficult to monitor health-wise than dogs, because if a dog is sick it'll sulk and mope and let you know, but cats hide their pain and illnesses. However, if its off its food because it's eating at yours - well obviously there's nothing for the owner to worry about.

    There's a mindset related to cats - that they're independent, unaffectionate, food whores who'll wander widely and have nine lives and they'll be all right generally. Your dog would do the same thing - if you let it. But it's considered irresponsible dog ownership to allow your dog to roam like that. Cats don't have the same status.

    I help out with fostering for a local cat shelter, and I've seen the fallout for cats who are owned by everybody and nobody. In one case, a family who were the original owners of the cat moved house without it - apparently because they felt that the people it spent more time with were its real owners. The new family were a bunch of kids who adored the cat, but their dad didn't want them to have one (not a cat person). The kids played with it and fed it and it slept outside. When the owning family moved, the father was extremely annoyed that they'd left "their" cat beind - he stopped his kids from feeding and playing with it. It ended up four weeks later at the shelter, and the poor thing had no idea what it had done - it went from being loved and having attention lavished on it to having no home at all and living in a wire cage - thankfully at a no-kill shelter.

    And as for a collar meaning it's owned - all a collar means is that someone owned the cat for long enough to put a collar on it. The shelters and pounds are chock FULL of cats wearing collars and nobody comes looking for them.


    Im sorry im not even going to read this post, so good luck to you and your welcome to your own opinion. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭James Mcfadden


    My mother has a cat calling to her and 2 other houses so it timeshares between 4 houses in total. He calls in, lies in the sunroom for a while and moves on. Everyone knows who he belongs to so there's no extra feeding or worming going on. When his owners go on holidays one of the other 3 families take him in. It works for everybody and the cat is lavished with attention.


    Lol a timeshare cat I love it!

    Im convinced this one does the same I see it walking over to other houses all the time. In a way im sort of insulted. This afternoon there was to massive black cats sun lounging in my front garden I do believe that they think its some type of holiday resort. They were lying on there backs outstreched lapping up the sun.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭magenta73


    Hi People's, I've adopted a cat also from my next door neighbour. I have my own cat, but the neighbour only moved in just over a year now. The cat is very old and is out in all weather's (the neighbour works) so the cat started meyowing outside my window on rainy days, make a long story short she now lives with us!, the neighbour in the first week did'nt even bother to look for her, I would have the police on the case if it was my cat and had'nt seen it for a week, lol, anyway I've told the neighbour that the cat was in mine and asked her did it have it's shot's ect, she also has no problem with the cat staying with me but here's the delema, I want to bring her to the vet to get her checked out, make sure she's ok as I said she's very old, but do you think I should get permission from the neighbour or just bring her,

    your feedback is much appreicated:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭Pianist2891


    okay a few things to add, very quickly though, as I'm nearly asleep!
    When we moved into a new rented house with our cat, we noticed that a large white cat was hanging around our back garden a lot. Never fed it, but the cat refused to go away. No collar, no indication it belonged to anyone. So after about four months of not doing anything, we began to leave a little food out and made a small shelter for him! One day about six months later, two young girls came knocking to say we had their cat. Promptly asked them to take him back, and apologised for any misunderstanding. However, a few weeks later, he was back. Turns out they had gone on holiday and no provision was made for anyone to feed him, or look after him. He was conveniently their cat, but also they never let him in or gave him any shelter. So once again we fed him, and since that day he never left our back garden. We also took him to the vet, neighbours never ever called around after that, or wondered what happened to him. Vet checked him out, treated him for fleas, vaccinated him etc. Two years later, he was happilly living in our shed, and also in the garden. After my cat died, he started coming into the house more and more. Took ill about 9 months ago, took him to the vet, turns out he was diabetic. Despite 2 months of insulin etc, he deteriorated rapidly, and we had to make a decision to let him go (as he was fairly old as well). We went to the neighbours to let them know. They thanked us for taking care of him for two years and said that they didn't want to or need to go to vet. We said goodbye to him and let him go peacefully.

    He had made up his mind where he wanted to be. There are many cat owners on the road I live. Most of their cats live outdoors, and yet hardly ANY stay in my garden.....because their owners feed them, and also give them shelter, and make provisions should they go away on holidays. Hence they don't go straying. However, if people are not responsible enough to look after their own cat, then there is every possibility the cat will find a more reliable source of food, and if shelter is part of the deal, even better!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭James Mcfadden


    okay a few things to add, very quickly though, as I'm nearly asleep!
    When we moved into a new rented house with our cat, we noticed that a large white cat was hanging around our back garden a lot. Never fed it, but the cat refused to go away. No collar, no indication it belonged to anyone. So after about four months of not doing anything, we began to leave a little food out and made a small shelter for him! One day about six months later, two young girls came knocking to say we had their cat. Promptly asked them to take him back, and apologised for any misunderstanding. However, a few weeks later, he was back. Turns out they had gone on holiday and no provision was made for anyone to feed him, or look after him. He was conveniently their cat, but also they never let him in or gave him any shelter. So once again we fed him, and since that day he never left our back garden. We also took him to the vet, neighbours never ever called around after that, or wondered what happened to him. Vet checked him out, treated him for fleas, vaccinated him etc. Two years later, he was happilly living in our shed, and also in the garden. After my cat died, he started coming into the house more and more. Took ill about 9 months ago, took him to the vet, turns out he was diabetic. Despite 2 months of insulin etc, he deteriorated rapidly, and we had to make a decision to let him go (as he was fairly old as well). We went to the neighbours to let them know. They thanked us for taking care of him for two years and said that they didn't want to or need to go to vet. We said goodbye to him and let him go peacefully.

    He had made up his mind where he wanted to be. There are many cat owners on the road I live. Most of their cats live outdoors, and yet hardly ANY stay in my garden.....because their owners feed them, and also give them shelter, and make provisions should they go away on holidays. Hence they don't go straying. However, if people are not responsible enough to look after their own cat, then there is every possibility the cat will find a more reliable source of food, and if shelter is part of the deal, even better!


    Thats a really sad but lovely little story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    okay a few things to add, very quickly though, as I'm nearly asleep!
    When we moved into a new rented house with our cat, we noticed that a large white cat was hanging around our back garden a lot. Never fed it, but the cat refused to go away. No collar, no indication it belonged to anyone. So after about four months of not doing anything, we began to leave a little food out and made a small shelter for him! One day about six months later, two young girls came knocking to say we had their cat. Promptly asked them to take him back, and apologised for any misunderstanding. However, a few weeks later, he was back. Turns out they had gone on holiday and no provision was made for anyone to feed him, or look after him. He was conveniently their cat, but also they never let him in or gave him any shelter. So once again we fed him, and since that day he never left our back garden. We also took him to the vet, neighbours never ever called around after that, or wondered what happened to him. Vet checked him out, treated him for fleas, vaccinated him etc. Two years later, he was happilly living in our shed, and also in the garden. After my cat died, he started coming into the house more and more. Took ill about 9 months ago, took him to the vet, turns out he was diabetic. Despite 2 months of insulin etc, he deteriorated rapidly, and we had to make a decision to let him go (as he was fairly old as well). We went to the neighbours to let them know. They thanked us for taking care of him for two years and said that they didn't want to or need to go to vet. We said goodbye to him and let him go peacefully.

    He had made up his mind where he wanted to be. There are many cat owners on the road I live. Most of their cats live outdoors, and yet hardly ANY stay in my garden.....because their owners feed them, and also give them shelter, and make provisions should they go away on holidays. Hence they don't go straying. However, if people are not responsible enough to look after their own cat, then there is every possibility the cat will find a more reliable source of food, and if shelter is part of the deal, even better!


    See, Pianist, this is the perfect scenario for the cat. You've taken full responsibility for the cat, so he didn't lose out. You can see how, if a neighbour knows someone else minds their cat, they can be irresponsible about its care - in your case they went on holidays and made no provision for it. That could be because they presumed you'd feed it - luckily, you did.

    Still, isn't the cat lucky that you weren't on holidays at the same time? (It's obviously 100% the neighbour's fault for taking the piss like that, but imagine the outcome for the cat if you'd been away as well.)

    Fair play to you - there are plenty of people who wouldn't do what you did - wouldn't foot the vets bills and wouldn't communicate about what you were doing with the cat's original owner the way you did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    Im sorry im not even going to read this post, so good luck to you and your welcome to your own opinion. :rolleyes:

    That's your loss - and possibly the loss of the cat you're part-sharing if you're not interested in information as to its best interests.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    This afternoon there was to massive black cats sun lounging in my front garden I do believe that they think its some type of holiday resort. They were lying on there backs outstreched lapping up the sun.

    Word has gone around the cat community, your place is great for relaxing and getting free food. :D

    You're gotten a reputation with the locals


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭Call me Socket


    Im sorry im not even going to read this post, so good luck to you and your welcome to your own opinion. :rolleyes:

    I don't know you, I do try not to judge anyone, but I've read this whole thread and I think it's a very narrow minded thing to do, to so blatantly dismiss the friendly advice being given to you (at the poster's expense of time but free of charge to you) by an experienced cat owner/rescuer.

    You opened the thread with an attention grabbing title and then turned your nose up at some of the attention cos it wasn't what you wanted to hear.
    Im a newbie here so bear with me here its not as bad as you think. Theres a beautiful white cat comes around are back and ive befriened it by giviing it some cheese and milk which it loves. But lately ive found it to be around all the time. It camps out in are garden and waits to be fed. It sits on a window sill and looks in at the television. It runs into are house and camps itself on top of my bed. Its very cute but the problem its its our neighbours cat. And it now doesnt go anywere near them as it seems that its better off here. :)

    What you said in your first post (in bold above) seems to contradict what you said in another post (in bold below)
    Like I said before the cat still lives next door! It goes home every night and it only comes over to mine once a day sometimes it doesnt sometimes it does.

    Which is it? Is the cat around all the time or not?

    If the cat spends a lot of time in your home and you feed it, do the decent thing and let the neighbour know.

    One of my cats is particularly friendly- follows the youngest to school sometimes, follows me bringing the dogs for a walk, all the neighbours know her and like her. She wouldn't get full meals from the neighbours cos they don't have cats and therefore no catfood, but they do give her tidbits. What I have on my hands now is an overweight cat. I had to ask the neighbours to just give her water if she's looking for a drink, because contrary to what you think- a fat cat is not a happy and healthy cat.

    When a cat is overweight it slows them down, increasing the risk of being caught by a loose dog.
    Like a person, the weight puts extra strain on the heart, which could knock a few years off the cat's life.
    Vet visits, and bills, are increased. And I'm sure the neighbours won't cough up when it comes to paying. Not that I would expect them to- she is my cat, my responsibility, mine to worry about, mine to vaccinate, feed, and keep safe and happy.

    So from an owner's perspective, your attitude isn't entirely fair. Let your neighbour know that the cat is at yours a lot, that you feed him, but that you don't intend to take any other responsibility for him. At least then, the cat will be provided for in all areas- by the owner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    I am on the other side as original poster. For the last few years my cat has been going to a woman living near me. I know her and all . I dont mind it at all. The little fecker always comes back to mine.
    I met the lady in the pub about two weeks ago and she was saying she loves my cat calling up. I offered her money for the food she gives him and she said no so i left it off. Keano is a little legend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭James Mcfadden


    seanybiker wrote: »
    I am on the other side as original poster. For the last few years my cat has been going to a woman living near me. I know her and all . I dont mind it at all. The little fecker always comes back to mine.
    I met the lady in the pub about two weeks ago and she was saying she loves my cat calling up. I offered her money for the food she gives him and she said no so i left it off. Keano is a little legend.


    Great little story there again Sean, but I must admit what an awful name for a cat I can see why its left. Id have named it Stevie G or Xabi the cat it would sound much better.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Im sorry im not even going to read this post, so good luck to you and your welcome to your own opinion. :rolleyes:

    You really are acting very selfishly. You like having the cat around as you like animals but don't want the responsibility of getting your own cat right now. You won't contact the cat's owner to see if what you are doing is alright by them as you obviously fear that they will ask you to stop what you are doing and you don't want to lose your little buddy, which is understandable.

    But you are not a child, what you are doing may be detrimental to the cat, it may be upsetting it's owners and you should cop on and have a chat with the people who the cat actually belongs to before you continue any further. It may well turn out that the owners are happy for you to continue as you are with the cat. But it isn't up to you to decide that, it's not your cat. So man up and act responsibly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭James Mcfadden


    iguana wrote: »
    You really are acting very selfishly. You like having the cat around as you like animals but don't want the responsibility of getting your own cat right now. You won't contact the cat's owner to see if what you are doing is alright by them as you obviously fear that they will ask you to stop what you are doing and you don't want to lose your little buddy, which is understandable.

    But you are not a child, what you are doing may be detrimental to the cat, it may be upsetting it's owners and you should cop on and have a chat with the people who the cat actually belongs to before you continue any further. It may well turn out that the owners are happy for you to continue as you are with the cat. But it isn't up to you to decide that, it's not your cat. So man up and act responsibly.

    I really wish I hadnt started this thread you guys are getting carried away with this post and making it more serious than it actually is. I dont feel I need to justify myself to you or anybody else on here but for the last and final time I would only give the cat a very very small piece of cheese maybe every other day and thats it. So if you dont agree with that well thats your problem.
    This thread was started for funny stories about your local cat around town and what it gets up to and nothing more. I enjoy reading those types of stories as I find them witty. If you dont have a story like that then dont post your rightious angry threads about me mistreating the cat in some way please.

    End of story I dont want any more replies to this thread unless its a witty story or I will just add you to my ignore list. Thank you for your coperation! :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    I really wish I hadnt started this thread you guys are getting carried away with this post and making it more serious than it actually is. I dont feel I need to justify myself to you or anybody else on here but for the last and final time I would only give the cat a very very small piece of cheese maybe every other day and thats it. So if you dont agree with that well thats your problem.
    This thread was started for funny stories about your local cat around town and what it gets up to and nothing more. I enjoy reading those types of stories as I find them witty. If you dont have a story like that then dont post your rightious angry threads about me mistreating the cat in some way please.

    End of story I dont want any more replies to this thread unless its a witty story or I will just add you to my ignore list. Thank you for your coperation! :)

    I think you'll find that its the cat and its owner's problem if you keep giving it cheese, when you've been advised not to by people who know cats.

    You really are showing your maturity, nobody is allowed to reply unless its to agree with you and massage your ego. Do you not understand how discussion forums work? Please do add me to your ignore list, I will be in good company.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    I really wish I hadnt started this thread you guys are getting carried away with this post and making it more serious than it actually is. I dont feel I need to justify myself to you or anybody else on here but for the last and final time I would only give the cat a very very small piece of cheese maybe every other day and thats it. So if you dont agree with that well thats your problem.
    This thread was started for funny stories about your local cat around town and what it gets up to and nothing more. I enjoy reading those types of stories as I find them witty. If you dont have a story like that then dont post your rightious angry threads about me mistreating the cat in some way please.

    End of story I dont want any more replies to this thread unless its a witty story or I will just add you to my ignore list. Thank you for your coperation! :)


    You only want to seem to listen to one side of the story.

    Here's the cat owners side: I had a beautiful cat a few years which I got as a kitten at about 6 weeks old, she was going to be drowned if she didn't get a home. She was my first pet. I gave her proper cat food, wormed her, got her neutered, she slept indoors, had a small kennel outdoors for shelter for when she was outside during the day when I was at work. She was a lovely cat, no trouble at all. I live on a fairly new housing estate and about 2 years after I got the cat people moved in behind me with a couple of dogs and cats of their own. I noticed my cat was spending time over in their garden with their animals, no harm there, but then I noticed my cat was refusing to eat cat food and was disappearing at night

    I then discovered that my neighbours were feeding her rashers and sausages and ham etc, the woman is a vegetarian and her husband is not and she liked to get rid of all the meat leftovers as often as possible. So anyway my cat started turning it's nose up at the cat food I was giving it - what cat wouldn't, I know I'd take rashers over cat food any day - my neighbours wouldn't stop feeding my cat and eventually it moved in with them. To be fair they now take responsibility for my cat, but I know it's got lesser status than their own animals because they took it on more like a stray than a pet they chose, it doesn't sleep in the house like their other pets. The cat won't come near me now although I did nothing wrong

    Anyway I lost my pet to my neighbours because my neighbours kept feeding it. I have another cat I rescued now and he's grateful for a home and I know they don't feed my new cat but essentially they did steal my pet away from me, a pet I was attached to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 WLPD


    My 2 cats trot over to my neighbours at 9am every morningas they know that the Fresh Cows Milk will be available for their consumption in their special bowls by the kitchen tableand then they stretch out by the range until ready.My neighbour is 92 and never had a cat on the place b4 we moved in.They are both 8 yld and have been doing this since they first ventured across the fields with my old cat as kittens.She had been doin it for 6 years b4 that and only died 2years ago.Am I now supposed to tell her to stop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    There is nothing wrong with being affectionate to and feeding someone else's pet as long as the owner is ok with it. My parents' neighbour invites our family dog into her house for an hour or so each morning and feeds him his breakfast meal. The dog enjoys her company (and food) and she loves the dog. She would prefer not to have a dog herself as she prefers not to have the responsibility so this way she has the best of both worlds. She also looks after the dog and walks him when my parents are away. But she would never do this if my parents' weren't happy with it. And she knows what rules my parents have for the dog inside the house and applies the same rules in hers so the dog doesn't get confused.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    WLPD wrote: »
    My 2 cats trot over to my neighbours at 9am every morningas they know that the Fresh Cows Milk will be available for their consumption in their special bowls by the kitchen tableand then they stretch out by the range until ready.My neighbour is 92 and never had a cat on the place b4 we moved in.They are both 8 yld and have been doing this since they first ventured across the fields with my old cat as kittens.She had been doin it for 6 years b4 that and only died 2years ago.Am I now supposed to tell her to stop.

    No of course you're not. I had a cat that used to go to our elderly neighbours every day, they got up earlier than me in the mornings and he would always be waiting outside their back door. They loved it, and so did he. BUT the big difference with my cat, and yours and the OPs is that we communicated with our neighbours, so everybody knew what was going on. I don't think that anybody is saying he shouldn't be nice to the cat, let it in the house etc, as long as he talks to his neighbours and tells them whats going on. They used to feed Sparky sardines, which he absolutely loved, but I knew that, so would cut down on his food at home accordingly so that he didn't get overweight. When we moved the couple asked me to leave him behind, I didn't as we loved him, but then he did it to another elderly woman at our new place. Again, no problem, although she used to moan at me that my cat was coming into her house, then she let it slip one day that she was also feeding him sardines etc. She loved his company as her husband had died and she was on her own. But, I knew he was going in there, and that she loved having him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭James Mcfadden


    Just to put some humour back into this post

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33ESMilyErE&NR=1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    Great little story there again Sean, but I must admit what an awful name for a cat I can see why its left. Id have named it Stevie G or Xabi the cat it would sound much better.;)
    Silly names lol. I did find it hilarious though when he left. Like his namesake. To funny. He even has the cork accent. Meow boy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    WLPD wrote: »
    My 2 cats trot over to my neighbours at 9am every morningas they know that the Fresh Cows Milk will be available for their consumption in their special bowls by the kitchen tableand then they stretch out by the range until ready.My neighbour is 92 and never had a cat on the place b4 we moved in.They are both 8 yld and have been doing this since they first ventured across the fields with my old cat as kittens.She had been doin it for 6 years b4 that and only died 2years ago.Am I now supposed to tell her to stop.

    If you're happy with what's going on, you don't have to do anything at all. As an aside, did you know that most cats are lactose intolerent and cow's milk gives them diarrhoea? Your cats might not be bothered by it, but most cats will get a massive dose of the sh1ts from a bowl of cow's milk. That's why we try to discourage people from giving kittens milk if they find them - you know, person finds litter of young kittens in the evening, keeps them overnight, gives them a big bowl of cow's milk because they're not aware it's a problem, turns them into the rescue at first light with the very best of intentions, and we have a litter of kittens squirting poo like water pistols, totally dehydrated, which can cause serious complications if they have other conditions (like are flea and worm ridden, which rescued feral litters often are).

    WLPD, if you had to take your cats to the vet and the vet told you 'they're lactose intolerant, and the constant diarrhoea has meant they're often dehydrated. That dehydration has led to your cats suffering from urinary tract infections from crystals building up in their urine, and there's a risk their kidneys may shut down. My bill will be hundreds of shiny eurons.' - Would you think 'Oh well, we didn't know any better, I'll suck it up and pay the vet' or would you think 'That bloody moron and his cow's milk!!'

    On another front, cats getting too much processed fish-based cat food for instance can get feline pansteatitis, or yellow fat disease. That needs medical treatment and a complete change in feeding regime.

    For those feeling offended that their friendliness would be criticised: the issue isn't you being friendly to your neighbour's cat. That isn't a problem. There are two problems: communication and responsibility.

    You can do what you like with your neighbour's cat if YOUR NEIGHBOUR KNOWS AND DOESN'T MIND. Between the two of you, you need to figure out who's feeding the animal what, and who's ultimately responsible for its vets bills if it's sick. That's all I'm saying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭spiderdog


    i can see both sides of this :D
    but, i dont think the op is doing any harm......shows he has a heart and he`s not feeding it huge amounts of anything:confused:
    i cant have cats....too many dogs......but i like to interact with my neighbours cats although, none of them come in my house for obv reasons:P:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 997 ✭✭✭MsFifers


    I think the key to this kind of situation is to have a discussion with your neighbour about it. The owners of the cat that has adopted me has chatted with me about the "issue" - turns out her kids are v. small and frighten their cat, hence it comes over to me for peace & quiet.

    She takes the cat to the vet when necessary, and I let her know when I worm and de-flea it when I'm doing my own cats.

    As I won't be living in this house for much longer, we'll have to start a re-integration programme for her cat - she'll have to get used to living at home again. I do feel sorry for her though - they don't mind her as well as I do! :D They put her out at night, and buy the cheapest of cheap cat food. Oh well.


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