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Can we have our nukes back please!

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  • 30-04-2009 11:24pm
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    Biggins
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    Someone mentioned the Metro today so I looked it up and came across this (page two):

    nef9l0.jpg :eek:

    In these days of mad global terrorism and lunatic religious nuts, my question is: should I be afraid?
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    #2
    Shryke
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    Yes Kent. Yes, you should.


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    #3
    Danbo!
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    Thanks for taking the trouble to link a pic, and not linking to that fucking flash copy of the metro


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    Insect Overlord
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    I for one welcome our nuke-wielding overlords.


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    Senna
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    Thats rubbish, almost as rubbish as a Ben Affleck film.


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    Donny5
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    It's a big sea-floor.


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    Overflow
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    Unless the creatures dwelling at the bottom of the ocean decide they've had enough of us polluting their oceans.


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    Tipsy Mac
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    If they are on the sea floor that long they are no risk. More people died around the world in the past 10 minutes from smoking related illnesses than have died in total from the recent outbreakes of bird flu, sars and swine flu combined, there's no rush to ban tobacco :D


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    Biggins
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    Senna wrote: »
    Thats rubbish, almost as rubbish as a Ben Affleck film.

    Really?

    http://www.didyouknow.org/nuclear.htm

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7720049.stm

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/lost-nuclear-bomb-left-to-rot-on-seabed-711292.html

    Youtube video

    http://uk.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oG75LSJ_pJVG4AcZdLBQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTE1ZHRqNXVlBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDOQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA1VLMDYyMF82MjA-/SIG=12jfsfo6v/EXP=1241217362/**http%3a//www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php%3fstoryId=18587608

    http://uk.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oG75LSJ_pJVG4AepdLBQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTE2YTA5dWxqBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMTQEY29sbwNhYzIEdnRpZANVSzA2MjBfNjIw/SIG=12jhb63to/EXP=1241217362/**http%3a//www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,590513,00.html

    to name a few...

    I do agree Ben Affleck films suck though.


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    Saibh
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    If they are lost at sea, can you imagine the cost of trying to retrieve them.

    Also I would imagine they would be no use to anyone now (depending how long they were lost for) would that be right?


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    FearDark
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    Theyre not lost, someone just mis-placed them... like car keys.


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    shenanigans1982
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    Saibh wrote: »
    If they are lost at sea, can you imagine the cost of trying to retrieve them.

    Also I would imagine they would be no use to anyone now (depending how long they were lost for) would that be right?

    True,once water gets into them they are f*cked.


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    Biggins
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    FearDark wrote: »
    Theyre not lost, someone just mis-placed them... like car keys.

    I hope the original owner finds them some day soon! :pac:

    I know the Russians have lost a few in Georgia and America lost one in Greenland. Israel has lost one over an Arab desert during the 100 day war.
    ...and those are just the ones over land that I can think of at the mo.

    I'm not too worried about the sea lost ones - its the missing land ones that will worry me in years to come!


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    Senna
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    Biggins wrote: »
    Really?

    Didn't mean the fact.


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    Biggins
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    Senna wrote: »
    Didn't mean the fact.

    No worries. ;)

    I'm off for a few minutes. I'm working at the mo on my own WMD! :D


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    thelordofcheese
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    Biggins wrote: »
    Someone mentioned the Metro today so I looked it up and came across this (page two):

    nef9l0.jpg :eek:

    In these days of mad global terrorism and lunatic religious nuts, my question is: should I be afraid?

    Nah....

    I'd imagine they are usually well below crush depth , how the hell are you going to get them back?

    for example, the USS scorpion (one of only two nuclear subs the yanks have lost) currently resides off the azores in about 3000m of water, average crush depth for seawolf class subs is 730 m. They're gone and they ain't comin' back.


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    fishfoodie
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    Biggins wrote: »
    I hope the original owner finds them some day soon! :pac:

    I know the Russians have lost a few in Georgia ..

    Where did you hear that ?
    Israel has lost one over an Arab desert during the 100 day war.

    Nope, that was the plot of a book/movie !

    ...and those are just the ones over land that I can think of at the mo.

    I'm not too worried about the sea lost ones - its the missing land ones that will worry me in years to come!


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    randylonghorn
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    Biggins wrote: »
    Someone mentioned the Metro today so I looked it up and came across this (page two):

    nef9l0.jpg :eek:

    In these days of mad global terrorism and lunatic religious nuts, my question is: should I be afraid?
    I'd worry a lot less about nuclear missiles lost at sea than I would about the amount of fissionable material that has gone missing on land, a fair share of it from behind what was the Iron Curtain.

    But tbh I don't worry much about any of it, because it's a waste of time worrying about things you can do SFA about.


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    partyatmygaff
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    randylonghorn wrote: »
    I'd worry a lot less about nuclear missiles lost at sea than I would about the amount of fissionable material that has gone missing on land, a fair share of it from behind what was the Iron Curtain.

    But tbh I don't worry much about any of it, because it's a waste of time worrying about things you can do SFA about.
    You could always become a mercenary, go recover all the nukes, take over an Island and demand world domination.


    Seriously though, anything lost at sea is unlikely to be uncovered again unless some serious advances are made in deep sea recovery.


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    randylonghorn
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    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    You could always become a mercenary, go recover all the nukes, take over an Island and demand world domination.
    Meh.

    I'm kind of busy this weekend.


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    fishfoodie
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    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    You could always become a mercenary, go recover all the nukes, take over an Island and demand world domination.


    Seriously though, anything lost at sea is unlikely to be uncovered again unless some serious advances are made in deep sea recovery.

    Ahem.. :D


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    Biggins
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    fishfoodie wrote: »
    Where did you hear that?

    I read about it in Newsweek a number of months back, plus recently it was mentioned in the news as an American contingent went to Russia for nuke talks too.
    Sample link about possible missing items for example:
    http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=74106&sectionid=351020602
    fishfoodie wrote: »
    Nope, that was the plot of a book/movie!

    You could be right but I read that it was based on facts hushed up!

    Interesting piece to show just it can happen:
    Iraqi commentator blames Israel for missing nuclear materials, terrorism.
    (From BBC Monitoring International Reports)
    Text of commentary by Salam Kuway'i al-Autaybi entitled "Iraq a chronic headache in Israel's mind" published by Iraqi National Congress (INC) weekly newspaper Al-Mu'tamar on 19 October

    The International Atomic Energy Agency [IAEA] has said that equipment and materials that could be used to create nuclear weapons have disappeared from Iraq apparently without Washington or Baghdad even noticing. In a report submitted to the Security Council, the IAEA also said that satellite pictures had shown that entire buildings in Iraq had been dismantled that had once contained precision equipment that could help a specific government or a terrorist group build a nuclear bomb. The IAEA's director-general, Muhammad al-Baradi'i, said that materials and equipment that would help in building bombs had also been taken away from open storage locations in Iraq and had disappeared without a trace, according to what was shown by the satellite pictures.

    Source: http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-14073126_ITM

    Also see: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,590513,00.html

    Apparently they just fall out of the sky anyway with regular occurrence.
    See: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread302187/pg1

    Sleep tight. :pac:


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    Saibh
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    fishfoodie wrote: »
    Ahem.. :D



    Hire Boat, cost of fuel, hiring staff - won't cost much!!


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    Senna
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    Saibh wrote: »
    Hire Boat, cost of fuel, hiring staff - won't cost much!!

    and a Fishing rod and magnet


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    Biggins
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    ...and a damn good radiation suit! :D


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    Saibh
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    Biggins wrote: »
    ...and a damn good radiation suit! :D


    Right then, we will leave it all to you to organise.

    You'll find the money no problem...


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    Biggins
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    Saibh wrote: »
    Right then, we will leave it all to you to organise.

    You'll find the money no problem...

    Should be no problem.

    I hear the Taliban are good for sponsorship - if they let me down, I'll send a request postcard to a certain someone hiding in the North Pakistan mountains. :D


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    falipo
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    "It's Thought"

    I can think of scarier things...dosen't mean the're true...


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    Biggins
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    falipo wrote: »
    "It's Thought"

    I can think of a scarier things...

    You've met my mother in law haven't you!

    I share your terror! :(


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    Senna
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    falipo wrote: »

    I can think of a scarier things...dosen't mean there true...

    Yeah the radioactive sea monsters have me bricking it.


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    minidazzler
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    In fairness now, there is a much worse Weapon of Mass Distruction out there. And it is a hell of a lot easier to get them into the country. The Avtomat Kalashnikova obraztsa 1947 has killed more people than any other single weapons system in the world ever.


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