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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,193 ✭✭✭Turd Ferguson


    I'm a member of MENSA :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭Leprachaun


    More like menstration. AMIRITE?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    Its just a load of nerds who got picked on and beat up at school starting there own little club.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭Heisenberg.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Conor108


    You know if they're that smart what are they doing arseing around with crosswords and Sudoku for!?! Invent some f**king robots already!!:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,247 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I bet she couldn't mend a fuse or unblock the jacks.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Oh I get it. URL. Earl.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭Samurai


    There are something like 3 different IQ tests one for languages one maths and another, its not near as hard to qualify as people think if it was they'd make less money! Last time I checked I qualified under maths but failed miserably in the other categories and so was still eligible to join



    not paying those ***** a penny though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,247 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Oh I get it. URL. Earl.

    Congratulations and welcome to Mensa.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Does anyone else think that this organization is a total joke?

    They charge the 'geniuses' for membership allow anyone to join that passes a test that they post out to you..!
    Actually no.
    You pass the test that they post out to you, THEN you go for a supervised test in UCD or some other location.


    Or so I'm told.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,081 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Oh I get it. URL. Earl.

    I'll have you know I was drunk when I chose that username :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Shacklebolt


    Actually no.
    You pass the test that they post out to you, THEN you go for a supervised test in UCD or some other location.


    Or so I'm told.

    And you're right. I tried joining when I was 12 but was just outside the limit... I'd say I'd pass with the benefit of a few years on me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 406 ✭✭Disease Ridden


    Oh I get it. URL. Earl.

    Weird. I've seen him post with that username loads of times before but only copped onto that when I read it at the start of this thread! Maybe something inthe lead up to reading this thread implicitly reminded us both of that medicore TV show "My Name is Earl".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭turgon


    Do I sense the OP is bitter because he got refused from MENSA?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭GirlInterrupted


    Does anyone else think that this organization is a total joke?

    They charge the 'geniuses' for membership allow anyone to join that passes a test that they post out to you..!

    I was just reading a story about a 2 year-old girl who had an IQ of 156* and it got me thinking.

    *http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090430/tuk-mensa-marvel-two-year-old-girl-s-156-45dbed5.html

    An with all the IQ's running around you'd think that they could design a better fcuking site

    http://www.mensa.ie/

    To be offered membership of MENSA, you must pass a supervised test, the postal test is just a basic test that gives only a general indication of IQ.

    Supervised tests are held in UCC, UCD, Trinity and other venues a couple of times a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭giggsy664


    I'll have you know I'm drunk and naked now :pac:

    FYP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Does the Irish Mesa have any Carol Vodermans of their own? I bet, she's so smart she knows like, 3 DIFFERENT sex positions. And not just the boring one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Monkey61


    Samurai wrote: »
    There are something like 3 different IQ tests one for languages one maths and another, its not near as hard to qualify as people think if it was they'd make less money! Last time I checked I qualified under maths but failed miserably in the other categories and so was still eligible to join



    not paying those ***** a penny though!

    Eh..none of that is true.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    The last Mensa-bashing thread was way more fun...


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    CHD wrote: »
    Its just a load of nerds who got picked on and beat up at school starting there own little club.

    Yea just like Boards.ie. Oh wait...:(







    :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    To be offered membership of MENSA, you must pass a supervised test, the postal test is just a basic test that gives only a general indication of IQ.

    Supervised tests are held in UCC, UCD, Trinity and other venues a couple of times a year.

    ....is it free?..........It's not is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,494 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    An File wrote: »
    The last Mensa-bashing thread was way more fun...

    Was that the one I made?

    Anyway, I hate MENSA nonetheless. They are a bunch of losers who walks around thinking they're god's gift to the world. If they had any brains they'd use them to good use like combinining their intelligence to help stop world diseases such as Cancer, Aids and this Swine Flu. They have the brain power to do, but instead they just sit around some mansion and chat about world topics and trying to get new members.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Was that the one I made?

    Anyway, I hate MENSA nonetheless. They are a bunch of losers who walks around thinking they're god's gift to the world. If they had any brains they'd use them to good use like combinining their intelligence to help stop world diseases such as Cancer, Aids and this Swine Flu. They have the brain power to do, but instead they just sit around some mansion and chat about world topics and trying to get new members.

    Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

    Please folks, do not feed this troll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭consultech


    Samurai wrote: »
    There are something like 3 different IQ tests one for languages one maths and another, its not near as hard to qualify as people think if it was they'd make less money! Last time I checked I qualified under maths but failed miserably in the other categories and so was still eligible to join



    not paying those ***** a penny though!

    Lies make baby Jesus cry :( MENSA's testing proceedure has already been mentioned in this thread; Where exactly do you "check" if various aspects of your intelligence make the grade? Mensa hotline or something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭consultech


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Was that the one I made?

    Anyway, I hate MENSA nonetheless. They are a bunch of losers who walks around thinking they're god's gift to the world. If they had any brains they'd use them to good use like combinining their intelligence to help stop world diseases such as Cancer, Aids and this Swine Flu. They have the brain power to do, but instead they just sit around some mansion and chat about world topics and trying to get new members.

    Don't forget the brandy and backgammon!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 228 ✭✭5318008!


    I know this is gonna sound like me being a sore loser, but there's actually research to back this up:

    Having a high I.Q doesn't actually count for much in the real world :eek:!

    All it means is you can solve some puzzles faster and have a few extra words in your vocabulary. Does it factor in your knowledge or your understanding of the world and it's workings. Does it test your ability to come up with innovative solutions?

    The whole concept of putting an objective number to intelligence is extremely flawed imo. It's like trying to put a number on coolness (the average mensa member has a C.Q of 65, well within the "retard" category :D). Yes, you can get a rough idea of it, but you can't put a number on it. There's too many different factors involved. How do you weigh up each factor? Is verbal reasoning more or less important than spatial ability? If musical ability and maths use much of the same areas of the brain and a high score in one usually accompanies a higher than average score in the other, should we really count them as two fully seperate categories?

    They opened a school for geniuses many years back. Nowadays how many of those people have become especially distinguished in their fields? Not many (although i think a few have).But not every single pupil like you'd think.

    In fact most people considered geniuses based on their achievements are of above average I.Q, but below the genius level. The simple fact is : geniuses are made, not born. If you enjoy something and spend a good chunk of your time doing that thing, then over many years you'll get really good at it.

    Personally, i think I.Q tests,mensa, ctyi and simmilar projects (while well intentioned) do more harm than good. I see ignorant ****ers who don't really understand much about the world, walking around thinking they're part of some elite and that everyone else is dumb (seriously, having to prove your intelligence to some dickwad before he'll consider your point gets annoying after a while). Granted most aren't like that (or are only to a small degree) but what about those on the other side of the coin? How would you feel if you were basically told at a young age that you were dumb?

    Children perform best if when they do well they're told "you must be proud of the work you've put in, keep it up" rather than "you must be really clever". This makes sense. Tell them they're inherantly clever and they develop a bad attitude, tell them they're not and it makes them feel like ****. Both kill productivity and decrease chances of a future genius.

    If someone fails foundation maths but has loads of friends a happy life and someone else has an IQ of 170 but doesn't get simple things like the concept of sharing, tell me, which one is the retard?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    5318008! wrote: »
    If someone fails foundation maths but has loads of friends a happy life and someone else has an IQ of 170 but doesn't get simple things like the concept of sharing, tell me, which one is the retard?

    Well the high IQ person is a bit socially retarded in that case. So wouldn't it make sense to have things like mensa and CTYI etc. where people in that situation can socialise with each other and maybe improve their people skills?

    I can't speak for Mensa but CTYI seems to be a very positive influence from what I've seen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 228 ✭✭5318008!


    javaboy wrote: »
    Well the high IQ person is a bit socially retarded in that case. So wouldn't it make sense to have things like mensa and CTYI etc. where people in that situation can socialise with each other and maybe improve their people skills?

    I can't speak for Mensa but CTYI seems to be a very positive influence from what I've seen.

    Maybe yeah. I was more giving out about I.Q tests and how much credit people give them rather than mensa itself.

    Also, the vast majority of ex-CTYI heads I know are passibly normal.Then again, i wouldn't consider any of the one's i've know to be proper geniuses either.

    But if people are repeatedly told that they are gifted and special and the leaders/nobel prize winners of tomorrow ect, it can give them an arrogant attitude/slightly ****ed up world view. They can think they're part of some elite that operates on a whole different level than the "average" person, when really they're just a bit better at solving puzzles and might have read a few more books.

    Again, I don't have anything against members of ctyi or mensa or anything, just that maybe we should be carefull not to give our children too much of an ego boost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭jimi_t


    5318008! wrote: »
    If someone fails foundation maths but has loads of friends a happy life and someone else has an IQ of 170 but doesn't get simple things like the concept of sharing, tell me, which one is the retard?

    Well the guy who fails foundation maths tbh... not sure what answer you were expecting?

    I really wouldn't consider poor social skills as an element equatable to intelligence (Autistic Savants immediately come to mind). Talk of ''street smarts'' or the concept of a ''cultural IQ'' just serves to make people of below average intelligence feel better, in the same way MENSA serves to make people deficient in other areas of live feel somewhat compensated by their above average intelligence.

    (Disclaimer: I'm not in MENSA, never went to CTYI or similar. In fact, some days I can barely pull it together enough to tie my shoelaces)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    Does anyone else think that this organization is a total joke?

    They charge the 'geniuses' for membership allow anyone to join that passes a test that they post out to you..!
    I think that the test they send out to you is just a preliminary. In order to be an actual member I think you have to pass an actual proper test, but I am completely open to correction on that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 833 ✭✭✭pisslips


    Well, I've never done a standardised test in my life and I don't think I want to, I don't see what purpose it would serve.

    I know I can come up with good solutions to any problems I've ever faced both academic and social.I've never felt inferior or superior to others or felt the need to use other's achievements as a benchmark for my own goals.

    So, really I don't understand why I would want a standardised test. I mean if someone came up to me with one at lunch and offered to supervise and correct it for free, i'd say,''Actually I'd rather eat or stare blankly into space for a while, maybe tell a funny anecdote if you're interested''.

    Theres too much emphasis put on academics, from my outlook I'd have more respect for someone who won a long puck than a spelling or math contest.And I'm a postgrad at this stage....I would much prefer to be a professional athelete than continue to learn if I had the choice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭S.I.R


    mensa is an anagram for asmen or said quickly Assmen.... sh1theads :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭johnny_knoxvile


    I'm a member of MENSA :(

    im a member of SEMAN

    ...its the dyslexic alternative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    pisslips wrote: »
    Well, I've never done a standardised test in my life and I don't think I want to, I don't see what purpose it would serve.

    I know I can come up with good solutions to any problems I've ever faced both academic and social.I've never felt inferior or superior to others or felt the need to use other's achievements as a benchmark for my own goals.

    So, really I don't understand why I would want a standardised test. I mean if someone came up to me with one at lunch and offered to supervise and correct it for free, i'd say,''Actually I'd rather eat or stare blankly into space for a while, maybe tell a funny anecdote if you're interested''.

    Theres too much emphasis put on academics, from my outlook I'd have more respect for someone who won a long puck than a spelling or math contest.And I'm a postgrad at this stage....I would much prefer to be a professional athelete than continue to learn if I had the choice.


    JOCK!

    *adjusts bracers*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    turgon wrote: »
    Do I sense the OP is bitter because he got refused from MENSA?

    It does sound like the OP is MENSA-strating.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,081 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Nah, I'm already a member of notMENSA. It has less members apparently, so I'm even more elitist than MENSA members.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Vaughn Shapely Quicksand


    Actually no.
    You pass the test that they post out to you, THEN you go for a supervised test in UCD or some other location.


    Or so I'm told.

    Aye, it was either UCD or DCU for moi

    whole thing is a waste of time and money though


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Vaughn Shapely Quicksand


    5318008! wrote: »
    Maybe yeah. I was more giving out about I.Q tests and how much credit people give them rather than mensa itself.

    Also, the vast majority of ex-CTYI heads I know are passibly normal.Then again, i wouldn't consider any of the one's i've know to be proper geniuses either.

    But if people are repeatedly told that they are gifted and special and the leaders/nobel prize winners of tomorrow ect, it can give them an arrogant attitude/slightly ****ed up world view. They can think they're part of some elite that operates on a whole different level than the "average" person, when really they're just a bit better at solving puzzles and might have read a few more books.

    Again, I don't have anything against members of ctyi or mensa or anything, just that maybe we should be carefull not to give our children too much of an ego boost.
    Gifted children are in no need of an ego boost while they're languishing away in schools and being sent to test for ADD because shock horror, they find the work easy and boring.
    For god's sake, they need encouragement not being put down by someone who has a major chip on their shoulder about 'don't let them get ahead of themselves'.
    Any well adjusted child is not going to think they're elite.
    How would you feel if you were basically told at a young age that you were dumb?
    Children who fall behind get special/remedial classes. Children who jump ahead don't. Perhaps you have heard or come across people who think they're elite, but by the same token I've heard of many gifted or smart children being put down and jeered in a class or by their classmates for sticking out.
    You're right, you DO sound like a sore loser.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    I'm too smart to be in mensa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    Mensa is just a organisation where bright people can interact with other people and not be ostracised for being intelligent. Much the same way, you can become a priest and not fear being ostracised for being a paedophile.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    Nah, I'm already a member of notMENSA. It has less members apparently, so I'm even more elitist than MENSA members.
    i am a member of DENSA there are more of us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭johnny_knoxvile


    I'm too smart to be in mensa.

    your obviously in Government if your that smart.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    I was in Mensa for a year. At the age of 11/12 it's pretty crap, just a magazine you get every month with complicated articles I wasn't interested in at the time (nor would be now really).

    It's not for me, but I love the begrudgery in this thread. I can't think of a single reason why anyone would be so strongly against Mensa besides jealousy. It's just a club ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,081 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    JC 2K3 wrote: »
    I was in Mensa for a year. At the age of 11/12 it's pretty crap, just a magazine you get every month with complicated articles I wasn't interested in at the time (nor would be now really).

    It's not for me, but I love the begrudgery in this thread. I can't think of a single reason why anyone would be so strongly against Mensa besides jealousy. It's just a club ffs.

    I don't begrudge the people in the club. Just the 'club' itself.

    I mean they charge you for the preliminary test and then you have to pay a yearly subscription.

    If you want complicated articles you could subscribe to National Geographic for less cost and you don't need to have a certification to do so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    I'm too smart to be in mensa.

    There's some other organisation (can't remember the name of it right now) for people whose IQs are in the 99.6th percentile. Like Super Mensa. Maybe you should join them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,081 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    There's some other organisation (can't remember the name of it right now) for people whose IQs are in the 99.6th percentile. Like Super Mensa. Maybe you should join them?

    http://www.eslpod.com/eslpod_blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/super_friends.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Rusty Cogs 08


    I don't begrudge the people in the club. Just the 'club' itself.

    I mean they charge you for the preliminary test and then you have to pay a yearly subscription.

    If you want complicated articles you could subscribe to National Geographic for less cost and you don't need to have a certification to do so

    So they send you out a test in the post which you return to be verified, then they may invite you to a supervised exam which you can sit and again have your exam marked. If accepted they send you out a monthly magazine of articles that may interest you as well as organising other club events and they have the audacity to charge you a fee, like a membership fee...of a club ? Surely with their intelligence they should operate in a vacuum where time, effort and money don't exist ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    I don't begrudge the people in the club. Just the 'club' itself.

    I mean they charge you for the preliminary test and then you have to pay a yearly subscription.

    If you want complicated articles you could subscribe to National Geographic for less cost and you don't need to have a certification to do so
    Tests have administration costs, and it's not like they force anyone to do it...

    Many people scoff at the idea of IQs, many others, like myself, consider them to be a valid measure of a certain type of intelligence, others go so far as to find that they enjoy the company of those with a high IQ. For this reason, there exists a club so that such people can meet. It's not a big deal, and I don't see any reason to oppose such a club.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,081 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    JC 2K3 wrote: »
    It's not a big deal, and I don't see any reason to oppose such a clib.

    I guess that to me at least it seems like a separatist movement. That's why I oppose it. They speak of improving humanity and yet they use old-world techniques to assure that only a select group of people be involved.

    Much like religion


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭ebmma


    my OH and his sister were offered to join Mensa when they were kids.
    They were intelligent enough at that stage not to bother because the vast majority of mensa people are arrogant sh!theads.


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