Paramore: Best Band Ever

Twilightning

You knew in your heart it was pisstake when you read the title. If you didn't you should probably go drink some bleach, or something. :pac:

Why is there such a ****storm made over this band? I've encountered literally tens of hundreds of Bebo groups dedicated to the band or Hayley Williams alone, it's ridiculous. I like a couple of their songs of their last release but beyond that they're mediocre. Her voice isn't memorable, as is the case with the rest of their music yet their celebrity status is heightened to that of Metallica during the late 1980s - early 1990s, maybe even moreso, which is a frightening thought in itself.

GhostInTheRuins

You know there was a genuine thread not too long ago with nearly exactly the same title.

Edit: Link

Twilightning

Jesus, I didn't actually know that. xD

GhostInTheRuins

Twilightning wrote: »

Jesus, I didn't actually know that. xD

I wasn't sure if you were referring to that thread or not with the title.

I've never heard their stuff though so I can't comment on the band either way.

Twilightning

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

I wasn't sure if you were referring to that thread or not with the title.

I've never heard their stuff though so I can't comment on the band either way.

One of the lucky ones so!

Tech3

Of all the albums they have, I would listen to the Riot one. A few good songs in it even though I wouldnt usually be into that genre of music. After hearing a few songs off youtube I thought I would buy and would have been more dissapointed with more higher profile albums such as the lastest Kings of Leon one.

TheLastBaron

I've gotta say, I appreciate them as a band, regardless of their genre. Of course, they're a bit emo and all, but if you're mature enough, surely you'll be able to see past that...? Borrowed the Riot album off a mate, it was actually decent, like. Catchy, well-written songs with a fairly unique sound. Ya can't really find fault with that, like, the world needs bands like Paramore just as much as it needs bands like Mastodon; there needs to be a balance.

Dante

Lol, I was about to put on my rage hat!

Although I do love their first album....got sick of Riot when it got big.

Catari Jaguar

It's melodic, it's energetic, catchy. Decent drum beats, pretty guitar riffs, fun to shout/sing along... (one of my GH4 faves to play). And speaks to it's demographic (teenage girls that like the Twilight saga) Hayley is a good role model too.

Some of the songs are rubbish, but I really love I Caught Myself, Emergency, Crushcrushcrush, Misery Business and Miracle.

If I'm looking for some easy, upbeat music when I'm out walking on a sunny day I play them.

That_Guy

I don't like the band but they must be good then if they're getting all these groups etc made for them on bebo.

One or two of their songs are always getting stuck in my head sometimes. They're catchy, they're popular and they've a big fanbase it seems.

I don't like lots of bands but people do and I can't change peoples opinions. I respect musicians for making the music they want to make even if it doesn't fall into my preferred music category.

I don't like this whole band bashing people seem to do. Really annoys me. Fair enough if you don't like the music you don't have to hold a personal vendetta against all of their fans.

Good bands make it and get lots of fans. Get used to it.

GLaDOS

That_Guy wrote: »

I don't like the band but they must be good then if they're getting all these groups etc made for them on bebo.

False logic my friend

Anything gets a group on bebo these days :pac:

D.Q

They are fallout boy had that Patrick guy been born good looking and female.

Dont particualarly hate or love them.

Catchy well writen songs, and a good image, as well as a serious market for them to target. They will always sell by the bucketload.

ShawnRaven

Man, i come back from Whitby Goth Weekend in great spirits... to return to R&M to find a discussion on Paramore.

Someone get me my flight back!

kona

sombody should make a porno with that hayley one, where is tommy lee when ya need him?:pac::pac: That will stop the girlfriend listening to her.

****ing ****e band, whats wrong with teenagers, whats wrong with good old fashioned, dirty, sleazy, loud rock N roll??

the world is turning gay.:eek:

stateofflux

kona wrote: »

sombody should make a porno with that hayley one, where is tommy lee when ya need him?:pac::pac: That will stop the girlfriend listening to her.

****ing ****e band, whats wrong with teenagers, whats wrong with good old fashioned, dirty, sleazy, loud rock N roll??

the world is turning gay.:eek:

lol... true...i turned on kerrang channel for the first time in a year the other day ....pretty woeful.....someone said this scary fact to me the other day..."that this probably the first generation where the parents listen to crazier music than their kids do"......
tesco will be selling "the punk rock" accessory kit soon (next to the dog food)...it will be complete with pink skeleton pinbadge, fluffy "safety" pins and a copy of hotpress....:pac::pac::pac:

ShawnRaven

stateofflux wrote: »

lol... true...i turned on kerrang channel

I really should have stopped reading here, shouldn't I?

tesco will be selling "the punk rock" accessory kit soon (next to the dog food)...it will be complete with pink skeleton pinbadge, fluffy "safety" pins and a copy of hotpress....:pac::pac::pac:

But i'm glad I didn't, i laughed at this.

kona

stateofflux wrote: »

....pretty woeful.....someone said this scary fact to me the other day..."that this probably the first generation where the parents listen to crazier music than their kids do"......
tesco will be selling "the punk rock" accessory kit soon (next to the dog food)...it will be complete with pink skeleton pinbadge, fluffy "safety" pins and a copy of hotpress....::pac::pac:

That is DEPRESSING..........maybe thats why there is the EMO stereotype of slashing wrists etc etc because i kinda want to when i see that gick o kerrang. Did any body see theri top 100 bands ever?? dont you will kill yerself...slowly, i think Queen were like 20th GnR were 9th and the disgrace.....Motley crue were 36th:(:pac:

What has happened to Rock N roll?? Emo bands,They make the likes of Poison look like cannibal corpse of somthing mental like that:D
My Girlfriend likes pete wentz......Im thinking of going to therapy, if she likes him and likes me what does that say about me???
:(:o:eek::pac::D

Steel panther is going to show em all!!:pac: Id love to show these emo kids real rock N roll, Anvil and Saxon(did they play last monday??) are coming up, Ill bring her to them, and Def leppard and whitesnake, then off to Cruefest, that will teach her.:cool: LOL

But ive no answer to the Punk kit in tesco:(, Britney Spears, Lady Ga Ga and Punk rock. Just having them in the same sentance makes me get a little sick in my mouth.

eddie.fandango

kona wrote: »

That is DEPRESSING..........maybe thats why there is the EMO stereotype of slashing wrists etc etc because i kinda want to when i see that gick o kerrang. Did any body see theri top 100 bands ever?? dont you will kill yerself...slowly, i think Queen were like 20th GnR were 9th and the disgrace.....Motley crue were 36th:(:pac:

What has happened to Rock N roll?? Emo bands,They make the likes of Poison look like cannibal corpse of somthing mental like that:D
My Girlfriend likes pete wentz......Im thinking of going to therapy, if she likes him and likes me what does that say about me???
:(:o:eek::pac::D

Steel panther is going to show em all!!:pac: Id love to show these emo kids real rock N roll, Anvil and Saxon(did they play last monday??) are coming up, Ill bring her to them, and Def leppard and whitesnake, then off to Cruefest, that will teach her.:cool: LOL

But ive no answer to the Punk kit in tesco:(, Britney Spears, Lady Ga Ga and Punk rock. Just having them in the same sentance makes me get a little sick in my mouth.

Google "Roe Effect". If enough of these kids do slash their wrists, eventually their numbers will dwindle over the course of a few years and we won't have to deal with it anymore.

RHRN

About the whole Hayley Williams groups thing....

Its because... well, you would amirite?
At least, thats what it seems to me, for guys anyway...

ManoCornuta

RHRN wrote: »

About the whole Hayley Williams groups thing....

Its because... well, you would amirite?
At least, thats what it seems to me, for guys anyway...

Gotta agree, every lad I know cringes at the thought of the music, but would still tap Hayley Williams

Stev_o

They need more music videos.............preferably with Hayley wearing less clothes........also no need for any of the other band members........also forget the whole music part of the video aswell.

Acacia

kona wrote: »

That is DEPRESSING..........maybe thats why there is the EMO stereotype of slashing wrists etc etc because i kinda want to when i see that gick o kerrang. Did any body see theri top 100 bands ever?? dont you will kill yerself...slowly, i think Queen were like 20th GnR were 9th and the disgrace.....Motley crue were 36th:(:pac:

Ah, kerrang! do a new 'top 100 bands' every 100 issues, it seems. It used to annoy me too, but then I realized they just rate bands in accordance to what their readership ( 16 year old girls) like at the time. It's about selling magazines more than anything else. Same with the tv channel.

As for Paramore, I like them. I won't apologise for it!:pac: I know they're not 'real punk' ( afaik they never claimed to be), but I like their songs.

I also like Pantera, Slipknot, Death Cab for Cutie, Down, Dimmu Borgir, Arch Enemey...:D I need both heavy and poppy rock in my life.

Twilightning

RHRN wrote: »

About the whole Hayley Williams groups thing....

Its because... well, you would amirite?
At least, thats what it seems to me, for guys anyway...

Unless the majority of their fans are lesbians then I don't see the need for so many groups since it's usually 16-year-old girls that start them in the first place. :pac:

I found a good Photoshop of Hayley naked and started posting the photo in comments on the Bebo groups in question. Bebo swiftly removed them each time I posted them anywhere but the reactions I got from the fans ranged from "OMFG you skank that's so not Hayley!" to "Jesus, where did you get that? Can I have a few more? "

MooseJam

best metal band currently on the circuit

That_Guy

I'm surprised some emo kid hasn't arrived in here yet saying.

"OMG they're loike THE best band EVA!! They're loike THE most original and bested band EVA!!! You just don't understand loike. Go and listen to your rawr rawr metal loike"

And then my reply to that will be... I will gladly go and listen to metal. Arch Enemy to be exact where Miss Grosso has got more balls than that Hayley one has. Think that's the singer from Parmore's name.

Twilightning

That_Guy wrote: »

I'm surprised some emo kid hasn't arrived in here yet saying.

"OMG they're loike THE best band EVA!! They're loike THE most original and bested band EVA!!! You just don't understand loike. Go and listen to your rawr rawr metal loike"

And then my reply to that will be... I will gladly go and listen to metal. Arch Enemy to be exact where Miss Grosso has got more balls than that Hayley one has. Think that's the singer from Parmore's name.

Angela's got bigger balls than me, and I use mine like a beanbag chair.

Undergod

Not emo.

Pretty dire, in my opinion, but singer is pretty talented.

That_Guy

Undergod wrote: »

Not emo.

Pretty dire, in my opinion, but singer is pretty talented.

And she ain't bad looking either considering her hair is always on fire.

Undergod

I wouldn't even consider disagreeing on that point, and I quite like red hair.

D.Q

Acacia wrote: »

Ah, kerrang! do a new 'top 100 bands' every 100 issues, it seems. It used to annoy me too, but then I realized they just rate bands in accordance to what their readership ( 16 year old girls) like at the time. It's about selling magazines more than anything else. Same with the tv channel.

Agree with you totally about the magazine but I have to disagree about the tv channel.

The tv channel is different.

The tv countdowns have the same formula each time:

random mash up of videos, finished with a top four of
Smells like teen spirit
One
November rain
Sweet child of mine

They just vary that last combo.:rolleyes:

Bubs101

They are not that bad. People are making them out to be Daphne and Celeste or something. Their songs may be poppy and some of them are bad but Misery business is great and your one can at least sing and the band knows how to structure a song so they are not shocking.

Just because they are fashionable to hate doesn't mean you have to

kona

Bubs101 wrote: »

They are not that bad. People are making them out to be Daphne and Celeste or something. Their songs may be poppy and some of them are bad but Misery business is great and your one can at least sing and the band knows how to structure a song so they are not shocking.

Just because they are fashionable to hate doesn't mean you have to

No were just saying they are ****ing ****e.

kona

MooseJam wrote: »

best metal band currently on the circuit

Em if thats a joke its quite bad

AND

If your serious you have not got a clue about metal.

Paramore are POP.

Acacia

kona wrote: »

Paramore are POP.

Pop as in 'popular', you mean? yeah, I'd say they're quite popular, alright.

They're not pop in the Westlife sense of the word, though, surely? I mean, they're biggest influence is U2 apparently, so I'd say they're pop-rock or pop-punk.(Pop as melodious, catchy, etc).

I agree with the chap saying they're not exactly Daphne and Celeste. They write their own songs, play their own instruments...I guess their not credible enough though because they're too popular and their entire fanbase are emo girls...:rolleyes:

The elitism in metal really pisses me off sometimes...

kona

Acacia wrote: »

Pop as in 'popular', you mean? yeah, I'd say they're quite popular, alright.

They're not pop in the Westlife sense of the word, though, surely? I mean, they're biggest influence is U2 apparently, so I'd say they're pop-rock or pop-punk.(Pop as melodious, catchy, etc).

I agree with the chap saying they're not exactly Daphne and Celeste. They write their own songs, play their own instruments...I guess their not credible enough though because they're too popular and their entire fanbase are emo girls...:rolleyes:

The elitism in metal really pisses me off sometimes...

Nope nothing elitist, they are not METAL, as many sub genres metal has they DONT fall into any.
How the **** can a metal bands BIGGEST influence be U2??
U2=Rock,

POP is POP, ie. westlife, PARAMORE, Pink, Britney, the gaga one . There are plenty of talented pop artists who write and play their own songs.

PARAMORE aint METAL.

how the **** can cannibal corpse and Paramore be refered to under the same heading??
Bands like Poison and Ratt pushed it in the 80s But my god paramore make them look like norwegic satanic black darkness whetever scary name you want to call it...METAL.

Their fanbase has nothing to do with it, my girlfriend likes them, and fallout boy but shes into everything.

Can I not call a band ****e and NOT be labelled elitist?? People dont like my taste in bands, I dont give a ****., neither do i shout elitist(well I do but thats reserved for special cases, usually in fibbers)

Acacia

kona wrote: »

Nope nothing elitist, they are not METAL, as many sub genres metal has they DONT fall into any.
How the **** can a metal bands BIGGEST influence be U2??
U2=Rock,

POP is POP, ie. westlife, PARAMORE, Pink, Britney, the gaga one . There are plenty of talented pop artists who write and play their own songs.

PARAMORE aint METAL.

how the **** can cannibal corpse and Paramore be refered to under the same heading??
Bands like Poison and Ratt pushed it in the 80s But my god paramore make them look like norwegic satanic black darkness whetever scary name you want to call it...METAL.

Their fanbase has nothing to do with it, my girlfriend likes them, and fallout boy but shes into everything.

Can I not call a band ****e and NOT be labelled elitist?? People dont like my taste in bands, I dont give a ****., neither do i shout elitist(well I do but thats reserved for special cases, usually in fibbers)

But I never said they were metal, just said they weren't pop, but pop-rock or pop-punk. I don't see how they're in anyway like Lady gaga or Britney Spears, though. With the exception of Lady Gaga (who sounds nothing like Paramore) none of the bands you mentioned write or play their own music.

I don't give a crap if somebody doesn't like a band I like- it's clear when people hate something just because it's popular, and it seems to be the case on this thread (not you in particular). Which seems like elitism to me.

On this thread it seems like the fanbase has everything to do with it ( people doing the usual ranting about emos).

Yeah, they're not metal, but they are rock (or sub-category of rock), that was my point.

MooseJam

Paramore are a rock band, and a pretty good one too, better than most of the bands talked about in this forum.

Twilightning

MooseJam wrote: »

Paramore are a rock band, and a pretty good one too, better than most of the bands talked about in this forum.

DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!

kona

MooseJam wrote: »

Paramore are a rock band, and a pretty good one too, better than most of the bands talked about in this forum.

please elaborate and include examples in your conclusion:D

kona

Acacia wrote: »

But I never said they were metal, just said they weren't pop, but pop-rock or pop-punk. I don't see how they're in anyway like Lady gaga or Britney Spears, though. With the exception of Lady Gaga (who sounds nothing like Paramore) none of the bands you mentioned write or play their own music.

I don't give a crap if somebody doesn't like a band I like- it's clear when people hate something just because it's popular, and it seems to be the case on this thread (not you in particular). Which seems like elitism to me.

On this thread it seems like the fanbase has everything to do with it ( people doing the usual ranting about emos).

Yeah, they're not metal, but they are rock (or sub-category of rock), that was my point.

IMO paramore leans more towards POP and the Indie end of rock than metal. Fair play to them they are doing well, i dont like their tunes but loads do.

I agree about the elitism in metal, and it only seems to be on thhis little island of ours, Lots of metal "fans" seem to see it as a closed shop and now that its starting to move mainstream again they cant handle it.
The amount of these pricks is frightening, especially at metallica gigs, my god, if looks could kill:D the looks they gave some of the people not dressed in denim and black:pac:
The fibbers and bruxelles thread is a good example of this, "fibbers is full of Emos and kids":D:D wasnt last saturday:P.

Each to their own, in fairnes the metal stereotype has kinda shifted from being a zombie/monster/freak/satanic worshipper to being a EMO, personally I prefer the Emo stereotype.(I hang around with lots of non metal heads, you get this when your out in non metal clubs(terrible BTW))

stateofflux

kona wrote: »

No were just saying they are ****ing ****e.

quote of the week :pac::pac::pac:

Undergod

kona wrote: »

IMO paramore leans more towards POP and the Indie end of rock than metal. Fair play to them they are doing well, i dont like their tunes but loads do.

What would you classify as indie?

kona

Undergod wrote: »

What would you classify as indie?

I never said they were indie, i said they learn towards indie, Id guess alot of their fan base would listen to the likes of kings of leon,arctic monkeys and franz ferdinand before GnR or Iron maiden.

Now what indie do you want me to classify?? The marketed way the therm indie is used or true independant bands?

Totally different to the common perception of grandad cardigans and poncy sunglasses, Motley Crue are indie as they are Independant and own the rights to their material, they couldnt be further from kings of leon.

Kigs of leon are termed indie but are signed to a label that isnt their own and the band doesnt own its own material so depends on what way you define it.

Stev_o

kona wrote: »

I never said they were indie, i said they learn towards indie, Id guess alot of their fan base would listen to the likes of kings of leon,arctic monkeys and franz ferdinand before GnR or Iron maiden.

.

Wait what

Twilightning

I don't know why there's such a debate over their genre. They're pop-rock, I thought that would have been fairly obvious to anyone from the getgo.

Undergod

kona wrote: »

I never said they were indie, i said they learn towards indie, Id guess alot of their fan base would listen to the likes of kings of leon,arctic monkeys and franz ferdinand before GnR or Iron maiden.

Now what indie do you want me to classify?? The marketed way the therm indie is used or true independant bands?

Totally different to the common perception of grandad cardigans and poncy sunglasses, Motley Crue are indie as they are Independant and own the rights to their material, they couldnt be further from kings of leon.

Kigs of leon are termed indie but are signed to a label that isnt their own and the band doesnt own its own material so depends on what way you define it.

A far better answer than I expected. Fair enough. Keep up the good work

Acacia

kona wrote: »

IMO paramore leans more towards POP and the Indie end of rock than metal. Fair play to them they are doing well, i dont like their tunes but loads do.

I agree about the elitism in metal, and it only seems to be on thhis little island of ours, Lots of metal "fans" seem to see it as a closed shop and now that its starting to move mainstream again they cant handle it.
The amount of these pricks is frightening, especially at metallica gigs, my god, if looks could kill:D the looks they gave some of the people not dressed in denim and black:pac:
The fibbers and bruxelles thread is a good example of this, "fibbers is full of Emos and kids":D:D wasnt last saturday:P.

Each to their own, in fairnes the metal stereotype has kinda shifted from being a zombie/monster/freak/satanic worshipper to being a EMO, personally I prefer the Emo stereotype.(I hang around with lots of non metal heads, you get this when your out in non metal clubs(terrible BTW))

Well, at least we agree about the elitism thing.:D Though I don't think it's unique to Ireland, in fairness.

Yeah, I don't understand the hatred towards Fibbers or that it's ''full of emos'' ( not that it would bother me if there were loads of emos there, but in all honesty, I've never seen one there.)

Well, trends in metal change all the time, and some people just can't handle that especially if it's popular with the young'uns! Of course they forget they were probably 13, 14, 15 when they got into rock and metal themselves!

I remember all the older 'troo' metalheads giving me and my friends grief because we liked ''that nu-metal sh1te'' about ten years ago. Now it's "that emo sh1te".:pac:

I like what I like regardless of genre, really.

evekat11

Everyone has their own opinions on music. Shouldn't be up to you to decide whats good or not. Personally I think there a breath of fresh air. There hasn't been a half decent pop punk band since hole. And if metallica is your thing - seriouslu there metal paramore arent :P
Her voice is savage. I sing a weekends and i know for a fact that her range is HUGE! there songs are catchy feel good.
As for their celebrity status - good for them! there also making fans aware of their favourite bands, bands that have been around for a hell of a long time with not half as much success ie Jimmy Eat World, New Found Glory etc. There not fame hungry - there very genuine music driven people.

Twilightning wrote: »

You knew in your heart it was pisstake when you read the title. If you didn't you should probably go drink some bleach, or something. :pac:

Why is there such a ****storm made over this band? I've encountered literally tens of hundreds of Bebo groups dedicated to the band or Hayley Williams alone, it's ridiculous. I like a couple of their songs of their last release but beyond that they're mediocre. Her voice isn't memorable, as is the case with the rest of their music yet their celebrity status is heightened to that of Metallica during the late 1980s - early 1990s, maybe even moreso, which is a frightening thought in itself.

kona

evekat11 wrote: »

Everyone has their own opinions on music. Shouldn't be up to you to decide whats good or not. Personally I think there a breath of fresh air. There hasn't been a half decent pop punk band since hole. And if metallica is your thing - seriouslu there metal paramore arent :P
Her voice is savage. I sing a weekends and i know for a fact that her range is HUGE! there songs are catchy feel good.
As for their celebrity status - good for them! there also making fans aware of their favourite bands, bands that have been around for a hell of a long time with not half as much success ie Jimmy Eat World, New Found Glory etc. There not fame hungry - there very genuine music driven people.

are you deaf and blind? They are ****e. If Its not up to me to judge whats good and bad, how would I develop a taste in music?

MooseJam

in your opinion they are sh1te, however in the opinion of millions they are fantastic so I think we can rule your opinion out as meaningless

Acacia

kona wrote: »

are you deaf and blind? They are ****e. If Its not up to me to judge whats good and bad, how would I develop a taste in music?

They don't appeal to my taste therefore anyone who does like them= deaf and blind.

Great logic there.