Double murderer Michael Bambrick released today

Ann22

http://www.tribune.ie/news/article/2009/apr/05/double-killer-to-be-freed/

Just on about it on the Late Late. I don't think I've ever heard of him. Can't believe it, he chopped two women up in bits after killing them. He said it was rough sex that went wrong...yeah right! People like that don't stop do they? He only served 13 yrs ffs! That's an insult to the two victims' families. There are a couple of psychos in prison at the minute for violent attacks on women that will be out in the not so distant future. No way will the gardai be able to follow them everywhere they go.

Double killer to be freed
Ali Bracken Crime Correspondent
Michael Bambrick, who butchered two women in the early 1990s, will be free at the end of the month
Michael Bambrick: cut up his victims with a hacksaw before burying their remains. He pleaded guilty in 1996 to two counts of manslaughter

Michael Bambrick, who in the early 1990s butchered two women and buried their bodies, is to be released from Arbour Hill prison at the end of the month.

Bambrick (56) killed and cut up the bodies of his common-law wife Patricia McGauley (43) and Mary Cummins (36) within months of each other.

He confessed to the killings in 1995 after being arrested in relation to a firearms incident. He was formally charged with the killings and in May 1996, pleaded guilty to two counts of manslaughter.

Bambrick, of St Ronan's Park, Clondalkin, Co Dublin, was sentenced in 1996 to 18 years for the manslaughter of Cummins and 15 years for killing McGauley, with the sentences to run concurrently. McGauley was reported missing in September 1991 and Cummins went missing in July 1992.

Bambrick told gardaí how he had killed McGauley, with whom he had two children, Adrienne and Louise.

He said she died when he stuffed tights into her mouth after tying her up while they were having sex. Bambrick claimed that she sometimes let him tie her up with tights and it gave him a thrill.

He then cut off her arms, legs and head using a hacksaw and buried the remains in a Dublin Corporation dump at Balgaddy. He told gardaí how a similar sex session had led to the death of Mary Cummins in 1992 after he had met her in a pub on Capel Street, Dublin.

Gardaí believe the killer was constantly on the search for women and had a number of relationships before and during his common-law marriage.

Cummins was a single mother. She lived with her daughter Samantha in the Liberties before she was killed by Bambrick. After she agreed to go to his house in Clondalkin, he said that he had tied and gagged her before she died. He dismembered her body the following day and buried it in a field at Kishogue, west Dublin.

Bambrick's former girlfriend, Stella Mooney, who has had a child with him, made a statement to gardaí in 1995. She said he enjoyed tying her up and engaged in unusual sexual practices and liked to dress in women's clothing.

She said Bambrick had told her he killed a girl in Clondalkin but didn't want to remember it because it was "too disgusting".

After verifying his statements at an inquest into the two women's deaths in 1998, Bambrick was led away in chains by prison staff before the court heard details of how gardaí identified the remains of the two women. Experts told the court how skull fragments, blood stains and teeth allowed gardaí to identity the remains.

The court heard evidence from British DNA expert Joan Shadwell who matched samples taken from McGauley's blood and bones with samples belonging to her daughter Adrienne. The killer will not be placed on the sex offenders register upon his release as his sentence pre-dates its establishment in 2001.

April 5, 2009

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He served his sentence so unless he kills again it's a non issue tbh. They can't be put away forever

dlofnep

Upward Spiral wrote: »

He served his sentence so unless he kills again it's a non issue tbh. They can't be put away forever

You're kidding, right?

He should have been locked up for life, key thrown away.

I'm sure if it was your sister, it would still be a non-issue, right? :rolleyes:

galwayrush

FFS, it's wrong that he was able to serve his sentence for killing 2 people as one sentence, he should be starting the second half of it now.:mad:

easyeason3

Upward Spiral wrote: »

He served his sentence so unless he kills again it's a non issue tbh. They can't be put away forever

Yes they can, but the only fly in the ointment is that they get to live their life courtesy of the rest of the country.
Life should mean life. An eye for an eye.
Prison is far too good for some people.
If it was your mother/ sister/ daughter would you be as open minded about it?

Raiser

Upward Spiral wrote: »

He served his sentence so unless he kills again it's a non issue tbh. They can't be put away forever

WARNING! Only nonsense up to 2cm north of this statement.

P.S. You a hacksaw salesman or just morally vacuous?

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dlofnep wrote: »

I'm sure if it was your sister, it would still be a non-issue, right? :rolleyes:

Probably not, but it isn't and so I can have a rational view on it.

The court decided to sentence him to 13 years which he saw out. If people were locked up depending on the threat they may pose after being released then hardly anyone would get out of jail.

Sure 13 years was not long enough for him, but it's the courts problem..

Ann22

Upward Spiral wrote: »

He served his sentence so unless he kills again it's a non issue tbh. They can't be put away forever

Why can't 'they be put away forever'? If it was in Britain he'd have got a much longer sentence. 13yrs is such a short time to serve for two murders. Awful for the families to deal with.
''Sure 13 years was not long enough for him, but it's the courts problem..''- It's our problem now that he's free.

Terry

dlofnep wrote: »

You're kidding, right?

He should have been locked up for life, key thrown away.

I'm sure if it was your sister, it would still be a non-issue, right? :rolleyes:

If it was my sister, I'd be doing more than complaining about it on AH.
I'd be looking for him to get more time inside.
It's not my sister, so I'm just going to complain here with the rest of you.

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Ann22 wrote: »

''Sure 13 years was not long enough for him, but it's the courts problem..''- It's our problem now that he's free.

Then you should have complained after he was sentenced rather than after he was released.

Sensationalize much? :rolleyes:

weemcd

Upward Spiral wrote: »

Sure 13 years was not long enough for him, but it's the courts problem..

How the fúck is its the courts problem, when society have to deal with someone of this calibre interacting with the public?

easyeason3

Upward Spiral wrote: »

Probably not, but it isn't and so I can have a rational view on it.

The court decided to sentence him to 13 years which he saw out. If people were locked up depending on the threat they may pose after being released then hardly anyone would get out of jail.

Sure 13 years was not long enough for him, but it's the courts problem..

I can honestly tell you that if someone did that to a member of my family I would not rest until I made sure they were dead. Rational view or not I would be dusting down the shotgun without a second thought.

Ass

i dont give a shit about the people he chopped up and i dont give a shit about him, im just posting.


~heh~

Ann22

Upward Spiral wrote: »

Then you should have complained after he was sentenced rather than after he was released.

Sensationalize much? :rolleyes:

If you had've read my post properly you'd know that his name wasn't familiar to me so I may not have known anything about the case at the time of sentencing..... anyway why would I have complained when he was supposed to serve 18 years for killing Cummins and 15 years for McGauley? I'm not a clairvoyant, how would I know he'd be out in 13yrs?

partyatmygaff

easyeason3 wrote: »

I can honestly tell you that if someone did that to a member of my family I would not rest until I made sure they were dead. Rational view or not I would be dusting down the shotgun without a second thought.

Then a member of their family murders you with a hacksaw....




Or if your a boring old bastard you'll be hauled off to prison for a few years.

Killing in revenge doesnt make it not murder

Blazer

easyeason3 wrote: »

I can honestly tell you that if someone did that to a member of my family I would not rest until I made sure they were dead. Rational view or not I would be dusting down the shotgun without a second thought.

+1 ..
Here's hoping he's crossing the road one day and gets knocked by a truck or bus.
Only problem is it would be too fast for scum like him.
Saying 13 years for killing 2 people is a joke..of course he only got sentenced for 2 counts of manslaughter not murder which is a joke in itself.

Every day we hear of some flaw in the justice system.
Point is it's flawed and needs a major overhaul.
Too many scum are practically getting off scot free and laughing at us.

Ann22

easyeason3 wrote: »

I can honestly tell you that if someone did that to a member of my family I would not rest until I made sure they were dead. Rational view or not I would be dusting down the shotgun without a second thought.

Then Irish justice being what it its you'd be locked up for 40yrs...think when a firearm's used you get longer. Prob better using some kind of kitchen utensil or a gardening implement:o.

easyeason3

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Then a member of their family murders you with a hacksaw....




Or if your a boring old bastard you'll be hauled off to prison for a few years.

Killing in revenge doesnt make it not murder

I'd take my chances with the Irish justice system before I'd let a bastard like him roam the streets.
Revenge killing isn't something to promote but I know in my heart & soul if a similar thing happened my family I would want the killers head on a stake.

easyeason3

Ann22 wrote: »

Then Irish justice being what it its you'd be locked up for 40yrs...think when a firearm's used you get longer. Prob better using some kind of kitchen utensil or a gardening implement:o.

Well in a few months I'll be living in the country. So if I happen to hear a sound in the night am I not entitled to let off a warning shot should someone be lurking in my house? And if that said person happens to come into my room, am I not entitled to defend myself?

Intruder 0. Me 1 .

Ann22

Even if he did 'accidentally' go too far with his strangling fetish, that's how many psychopaths start off. They end up only capable of a sexual release when violence is there. As time goes on they need a stronger stimulus and they need it more often. At least women know what he looks like now.

Karoma

For the love of Gob! THE MAN HAS A 'TACHE! He's clearly evil! Rabble.

Shanotheslayer

Thats aloud of ****e him getting released tbh

Kristopherus

AFAIK he was sentenced to 18 years. But the, as another poster mentioned, that should have been 18 yrs for each crime, and he should be starting the second sentence now.

Terry

easyeason3 wrote: »

Well in a few months I'll be living in the country. So if I happen to hear a sound in the night am I not entitled to let off a warning shot should someone be lurking in my house? And if that said person happens to come into my room, am I not entitled to defend myself?

Intruder 0. Me 1 .

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Sharpshooter

easyeason3 wrote: »

Well in a few months I'll be living in the country. So if I happen to hear a sound in the night am I not entitled to let off a warning shot should someone be lurking in my house? And if that said person happens to come into my room, am I not entitled to defend myself?

Intruder 0. Me 1 .

Brings to mind Padraig Nally, wasn't he jailed for five or six years for thinking the same thing?

syklops

easyeason3 wrote: »

I'd take my chances with the Irish justice system before I'd let a bastard like him roam the streets.
Revenge killing isn't something to promote but I know in my heart & soul if a similar thing happened my family I would want the killers head on a stake.

+1

Terry

syklops wrote: »

+1

+1

ArmaniJeanss

He didn't get convicted of murder despite half the posters here calling it murder.
He pleaded guilty to manslaughter and I assume the then DPP (who believe it or not knows far more about the case than us rabble) didn't feel there was enough evidence for a murder conviction.
So the sentence and time serves seems appropriate.

JPA

Upward Spiral wrote: »

He served his sentence so unless he kills again it's a non issue tbh. They can't be put away forever

Seriously? WTF? Yes, HE CAN BE PUT AWAY FOREVER.

Clearly some kind of nutjob. The murderer that is....

Ann22

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

He didn't get convicted of murder despite half the posters here calling it murder.
He pleaded guilty to manslaughter and I assume the then DPP (who believe it or not knows far more about the case than us rabble) didn't feel there was enough evidence for a murder conviction.
So the sentence and time serves seems appropriate.

I know what you're saying but as I said earlier, even if it was an accidental thing at the time, people who're into that kind of stuff usually go down a bad road. He is potentially a very dangerous man.

easyeason3

Sharpshooter wrote: »

Brings to mind Padraig Nally, wasn't he jailed for five or six years for thinking the same thing?

One of my biggest fears is someone breaking into my house while I'm in it or still being there when I come home.
I'd like to think that if it did happen I'd get out of there asap but I'd also be terrified walking down the stairs with my hands hanging. It sounds very American but I want to be able to protect myself even if that means getting to the car & getting out of there.
The 'intruder 0 Me 1' was a joke but yet if it came to it I would be willing to fire.
If someone broke into my house, saw me standing with a shotgun but chose to ignore it & came at me in an aggressive manner then yes I would be tempted to pull the trigger but I know where to aim so chances are they would get skimmed with a bullet on the leg.

Ann22

When we moved into our house first my oh used to keep a baseball bat behind the bedroom door in case of a break in. Dunno where it went.

thelordofcheese

dlofnep wrote: »

You're kidding, right?

He should have been locked up for life, key thrown away.

I'm sure if it was your sister, it would still be a non-issue, right? :rolleyes:

I'm sure if it was my sister i would be baying for blood.
however in that case nobody should listen to me, because i don't want justice, i want revenge.

Do you see?

The man has served his time, you can jail him because he might commit a crime at some point in the future, maybe.

Sharpshooter

easyeason3 wrote: »

One of my biggest fears is someone breaking into my house while I'm in it or still being there when I come home.
I'd like to think that if it did happen I'd get out of there asap but I'd also be terrified walking down the stairs with my hands hanging. It sounds very American but I want to be able to protect myself even if that means getting to the car & getting out of there.
The 'intruder 0 Me 1' was a joke but yet if it came to it I would be willing to fire.
If someone broke into my house, saw me standing with a shotgun but chose to ignore it & came at me in an aggressive manner then yes I would be tempted to pull the trigger but I know where to aim so chances are they would get skimmed with a bullet on the leg.

And I can see where you are coming from, but the way the law is now you would end up worse off than the intruder.

It is not right but as far as I can see the law is mostly on the side of the law breaker in this country, imo.

easyeason3

Sharpshooter wrote: »

And I can see where you are coming from, but the way the law is now you would end up worse off than the intruder.

It is not right but as far as I can see the law is mostly on the side of the law breaker in this country, imo.

I'd still take my chances before I'd let someone rape or assault me. If that happened the house would be up for sale in the morning.
I would sooner get held up at knife point at an atm before I would accept an intruder in my home.

Ann22

thelordofcheese wrote: »

I'm sure if it was my sister i would be baying for blood.
however in that case nobody should listen to me, because i don't want justice, i want revenge.

Do you see?

The man has served his time, you can jail him because he might commit a crime at some point in the future, maybe.

Right, say you were into rough stuff and in the throes of your urges you accidentally strangled someone, wouldn't you be traumatised? If you went through that and suffered genuine remorse, fear and horror then were panicked into dismembering them and hiding the parts would you go and throttle someone in the bed again? No you feckin' wouldn't. It'd be the last thing you'd do. He clearly has a compulsion.

Mrmoe

easyeason3 wrote: »

If someone broke into my house, saw me standing with a shotgun but chose to ignore it & came at me in an aggressive manner then yes I would be tempted to pull the trigger but I know where to aim so chances are they would get skimmed with a bullet on the leg.

I would be aiming a little bit higher and more central if I were you.

ejmaztec

Ann22 wrote: »

When we moved into our house first my oh used to keep a baseball bat behind the bedroom door in case of a break in. Dunno where it went.

Perhaps someone broke in and stole it while you were asleep.:eek:

Sir Gallagher

I used too live in the estate he buried the bodies beside, supposedly he used to wheel the bodyparts over at night and bury them. I remember coming home from my holidays one summer and the fields being cordoned off very strange altogether. I was shocked to see that he was to be released in the paper last week, complete and utter deviant scum, literally got away with murder and plenty of other stuff too.

Strangely enough i was invited to a party in the house it all happened in a few years back, i declined, not because of the murders happening there bu because of the fact it's in ronanstown, fudge that!!

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weemcd wrote: »

How the fúck is its the courts problem, when society have to deal with someone of this calibre interacting with the public?

Well if he kills again it's the courts problem. Right now it's the courts problem for incorrectly sentencing him.

And for everyone saying that he could be put away forever, well in what context?

Locked up until he dies..?
Death penalty..?

If you feel so strongly about it then why not lobby for tougher sentencing or the reintroduction of hanging..?

How many convicted murderers/rapists are free in Ireland today I wonder..

this is fantastic. i am fully sure that out correctional system has changed his whole personality back to what we deem fit for society.

my arse.

3 strikes rule ftw

bobbbb

How can he kill 2 women at different times and both are manslaughter.

And this serving sentences concurrently is a joke.

If i went on a killing spree offing all the murderers and gand members in the country - can i serve the sentences concurrently?
If i can i might take one for the people.

mikemac

13 years for manslaughter isn't unusual.
And I don't think anyone mentioned he plead guilty. You can get a lesser sentence for that.
Saves having a full trial and saves the family having to give evidence.

I wouldn't blame the judge.
I'd blame the DPP who couldn't manage to get a murder conviction.

But the guy served his sentence so that's it for now

bobbbb

bobbbb wrote: »

How can he kill 2 women at different times and both are manslaughter.

because hes a man and he slaughtered them

MayoForSam

The law is an ass with respect to serious violent crime in this country. I cannot understand how this maniac can be released to roam our streets while he remains a serious threat to innocent women out there.

That other psycho Gerard Barry was on early release from prison when he brutally killed a man, he got time for that but was let out and then murdered that Swiss teenager.

There should be some allowance made for people like these two (there can be only be maybe 20 similar individuals in prison here at the moment). Life should mean life or at least 40 years, and minimal prison privileges as well. It's a complete joke when these guys know they will be let out eventually to do what they want.

Surely there must be some compromise between the death penalty for aggravated murder (which I would never advocate) and a paltry 13-year sentence (and explain to me how do concurrent sentences make any sense)?

Another good point made on the LLS last night was the fact that previous convictions cannot be used in evidence for another crime, I think an individual's previous history should have a strong bearing on the court's decision.

All our politicians are too busy firefighting the economic situation at the moment to sort out our real social issues, useless shower.

anplaya

easyeason3 wrote: »

One of my biggest fears is someone breaking into my house while I'm in it or still being there when I come home.
I'd like to think that if it did happen I'd get out of there asap but I'd also be terrified walking down the stairs with my hands hanging. It sounds very American but I want to be able to protect myself even if that means getting to the car & getting out of there.
The 'intruder 0 Me 1' was a joke but yet if it came to it I would be willing to fire.
If someone broke into my house, saw me standing with a shotgun but chose to ignore it & came at me in an aggressive manner then yes I would be tempted to pull the trigger but I know where to aim so chances are they would get skimmed with a bullet on the leg.

skim someone on the leg with a shotgun bullet?lol youd probably take their whole leg off ,and theyd bleed to death,and youll be ****ED then,might as well aim for the head lol

antodeco

He really shouldnt be released for what he did. My daughter lives in that house where he murdered the people in Clondalkin, and I stay there a fair amount. There were a huge amounts of press outside, and they were printing the address of the house. Ironically enough, Im more pissed off at the media for turning a now normal residence house back into the 'house of horrors' and ensuring that as much media attention is placed on a house, without actually providing privacy to the now residents of that house.

Rant over.

Bottle_of_Smoke

Whats bugs me is people get far more up in arms about the release of the guys who murdered James Bulger in 93.

Murder sentences runnning concurrently? WTF?

walshb

Upward Spiral wrote: »

He served his sentence so unless he kills again it's a non issue tbh. They can't be put away forever

Yes, and HIS sentence stank. Hell, the vile freak got the customary 25 percent
time off for good behaviour?:mad: How about freaking 25 percent added for bad behaviour?

This world is a mess!

walshb

Upward Spiral wrote: »

Probably not, but it isn't and so I can have a rational view on it.

The court decided to sentence him to 13 years which he saw out. If people were locked up depending on the threat they may pose after being released then hardly anyone would get out of jail.

Sure 13 years was not long enough for him, but it's the courts problem..

The sentence was 18 years wasn't it? He got the ridiculous time off clause.

And, it's not the courts problem, it is society's problem!
And now society will have to hope that this whack
job doesn't strike again!