Ferguson vs Benitez thread

Thanx 4 The Fish

I thought that only a few of the Man U players wore the armband at the game. Was it not Rooney (who you would expect to wear them) and for some reason Ronaldo, or at least that is all I saw wearing them. Could have just missed it on other lads.

Mr Alan

tok9 wrote: »

ah what? It was uefa who decided to get the players to wear the arm bands.

think it was Utd requested to wear them.

but its nothing to do with this conversation.

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

I thought that only a few of the Man U players wore the armband at the game. Was it not Rooney (who you would expect to wear them) and for some reason Ronaldo, or at least that is all I saw wearing them. Could have just missed it on other lads.

nah man, think they were all wearing them, couldn't see it on some of them though as they had sleeves rolled up etc.

rossie1977

Headshot wrote: »

lolz all the way

may I remind people who started this

yap your right Rafa started this with his rant

actually no, ferguson started it with this http://bleacherreport.com/articles/107485-liverpool-will-feel-the-nerves-unlike-manchester-united

2 days later rafa responded

jesus_thats_gre

rossie1977 wrote: »

actually no, ferguson started it started with this http://bleacherreport.com/articles/107485-liverpool-will-feel-the-nerves-unlike-manchester-united

2 days later rafa responded

Lets not let what actually happened get in the way of things now..

ntlbell

tok9 wrote: »

ah what? It was uefa who decided to get the players to wear the arm bands.

they decided to "let" them after united put the request in no?

tok9

Mr Alan wrote: »

think it was Utd requested to wear them.

ntlbell wrote: »

they decided to "let" them after united put the request in no?

Sorry i thought tyler said it during the match.. my bad

Supermanscat

This thread reminds me off the banking system and the toxic bank being set up in the counrty. This thread is the toxic bank and is taking the toxic assets out of the other threads and they are being stored here

Mr Alan

ntlbell wrote: »

they decided to "let" them after united put the request in no?

yes, but again, its ZERO to do with this conversation.

I'd imagine if Ferguson popped his clogs tomorrow, there'd be black arm bands worn in Anfield. Doesn't mean he is popular there. Similiarly, David Moyes got a standing ovation when arriving at the Hillsborough memorial the other day, doesn't mean he is loved there. Somethings are more important than football.

deisedevil

rossie1977 wrote: »

actually no, ferguson started it started with this http://bleacherreport.com/articles/107485-liverpool-will-feel-the-nerves-unlike-manchester-united

2 days later rafa responded

There was very little to what Fergie said in that, no real venom. The Rafa Rant on the other hand........

~Rebel~

ntlbell wrote: »

they decided to "let" them after united put the request in no?

i actually cant believe you're even remotely mentioning this as some great mark of respect by Ferguson!

It would have been beyond a disgrace if on the anniversary of Hillsborough, an event where 96 people from litertally half an hour down the road, Manchester United didn't go some way towards acknowledging it. It wasn't just a Liverpool tragedy it was an English tragedy, and you can be absolutely certain that a lot of Manchester families would have been deeply affected by it, just as how if something of that magnitude were to happen in Dublin, a lot of those mourned would have family and friends in Kildare.

m@cc@

Back on topic, I don't think either Ferguson or Benitez can come out of this seasons squabbling with much credit. The only thing that will decide who has the upper hand is the amount of trophies in the cabinet at the end of the seaosn. Everything else doesn't really matter.

thegen

deisedevil wrote: »

There was very little to what Fergie said in that, no real venom. The Rafa Rant on the other hand........

Now this sums it up.

There was very little in the Ferguson thing then Benitez goes off on one.

Some months later, a few small gestures at a Liverpool v Blackburn match and Ferguson is offended, goes and enlists the poor offended Blackburn manager and proceeds with a dual pronged attack on Benitez.

Do you not see the irony in your post?

Mr Alan

deisedevil wrote: »

The Rafa Rant on the other hand........

Was based 100% on perceived injustices carried out by officials who are scared of Ferguson....most people agree with the success Ferguson has had & the amount of time at a top club, he is afforded a greater level of lee-way by the FA & officials who are scared of him. What Benitez said may or may not have been correct, most think it had a lot of truth in it, Utd fans think it had no truth in it, it doesnt really matter tbh.

But Mr Fergusons, was a personal attack on Benitez the man. insulting him with petty name calling & questioning his mental health.

ntlbell

Mr Alan wrote: »

Somethings are more important than football.

Correct Jim, Correct.

JPA

This thread is going nowhere fast. Oh well..

deisedevil

thegen wrote: »

Now this sums it up.

There was very little in the Ferguson thing then Benitez goes off on one.

Some months later, a few small gestures at a Liverpool v Blackburn match and Ferguson is offended, goes and enlists the poor offended Blackburn manager and proceeds with a dual pronged attack on Benitez.

Do you not see the irony in your post?

No I don't! Where's the bloody irony?

I think Fergie's rant was nothing more than trying to wind up Benitez and Liverpool in general and it worked, you only have to look in this forum to know that. Did you think that I agreed with what Fergie said is it? I don't and I think if he was honest he'd say himself that it wasn't that big a deal what Rafa did.

So where's the irony now? You assumed wrongly that I agreed with what Fergies said and you know what they say about assumptions....


What's the big deal anyways. Fergie is obviously trying to wind up Benitez and Liverpool in general and it's worked, you lot are up in arms over it.

Laugh at it and see it for what it is and don't make such a bloody big deal about it.

thegen

deisedevil wrote: »

No I don't! Where's the bloody irony?

I think Fergie's rant was nothing more than trying to wind up Benitez and Liverpool in general and it worked, you only have to look in this forum to know that. Did you think that I agreed with what Fergie said is it? I don't and I think if he was honest he'd say himself that it wasn't that big a deal what Rafa did.

So where's the irony now? You assumed wrongly that I agreed with what Fergies said and you know what they say about assumptions....


What's the big deal anyways. Fergie is obviously trying to wind up Benitez and Liverpool in general and it's worked, you lot are up in arms over it.

Laugh at it and see it for what it is and don't make such a bloody big deal about it.

Sorry if i misunderstood your stance. BTW im not a Liverpool supporter, Im a neutral, just like the banter in the Liverpool and Utd forums.

I feel Ferguson has wound the Liverpool supporters up more than Benitez though. He seems to be holding fire this time. I was not around for the Benitez rant, how much debate did it generate with utd fans

deisedevil

thegen wrote: »

Sorry if i misunderstood your stance. BTW im not a Liverpool supporter, Im a neutral, just like the banter in the Liverpool and Utd forums.

I feel Ferguson has wound the Liverpool supporters up more than Benitez though. He seems to be holding fire this time. I was not around for the Benitez rant, how much debate did it generate with utd fans

Sorry, forgot your not a Pool fan.

To be honest when Rafa had his rant I was in bits laughing at it. Couldn't believe he went to the bother of it and friends at home were all taking the piss out of him on the back of it. But were we annoyed and appaled over it, god no. It was just Rafa's feeble attempt at upsetting Man U and it didn't work.

mike65

I think this is much worse behaviour as he co-oped another manager into his low cunning.

Unearthly

hahah

People point out Ferguson/Allardyce/Benitez and whoever else have embarrassed themselves, then proceed to have a childish argument.

ROCKMAN

Ah remember the days......

2 teams , 2 sets of fans , 1 game of football ,
1 team won and were treated as Heroes ,Superstars.... Gods even ,
1 team lost and were treated as Wasters , over-paid Tossers....Antichrists even. (Feelings that lasted at less a week .)
1 set of fans got to abuse and take the piss out of the other set of fans because it was their God given right as the winners.


Ahhh well ,

deisedevil

mike65 wrote: »

I think this is much worse behaviour as he co-oped another manager into his low cunning.

Lol, how do you know he did though. Sam came out with his take on it first and the Fergie added to it later. I think he just spotted an opportunity for a bit of mischief tbh.

mike65

Nah they are old boys act, the timing and the points made were coordinated and Sam may be "Big" but is small in the presence of Fergie.

deisedevil

Unearthly wrote: »

hahah

People point out Ferguson/Allardyce/Benitez and whoever else have embarrassed themselves, then proceed to have a childish argument.

Yep, it was funny at the start seeing the Pool fans get wound up about it but seeing them actually get so bothered about it is beyond belief.

Mr Alan

i think you'll find that pool fans aren't "worked up" over it, most seem to just think its good that Ferguson is obviously so rattled by Rafa by he is resorting to such nonsense.

RasTa

Seriously who gives a flying f*ck. I laughed my ass off when Rafa went on his facts speech. I also laughed my ass off when Fergie starter waffling about nothing joined with big Sam. Stop over analyzing nothing, it's a sunny day out and I'm stuck in work reading about this nonsense, get out and enjoy the weather.

Headshot

Mr Alan wrote: »

i think you'll find that pool fans aren't "worked up" over it, most seem to just think its good that Ferguson is obviously so rattled by Rafa by he is resorting to such nonsense.

Alan

you came in the utd thread yesterday and was really worked up about it so I think your kidding yourself

Mr Alan

Headshot

I came into the Utd thread & pointed out why it was a stupid thing for him to say is all.

Not worked up, i've been having a great laugh about it over the last couple of days.

deisedevil

RasTa wrote: »

Seriously who gives a flying f*ck. I laughed my ass off when Rafa went on his facts speech. I also laughed my ass off when Fergie starter waffling about nothing joined with big Sam. Stop over analyzing nothing, it's a sunny day out and I'm stuck in work reading about this nonsense, get out and enjoy the weather.

The voice of reason! Well said.

deisedevil

Headshot wrote: »

Alan

you came in the utd thread yesterday and was really worked up about it so I think your kidding yourself

Ya did Alan in fairness. You were getting seriously upset over it and twas obvious that Boggles and Headshot and the like were going along with it getting a mighty rise outta ya. Twas quite amusing.