Do you think George Dubya Bush is a war criminal?

Terry

I do and I have my reasons.
Unsanctioned invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Gitmo and the breaches of the Geneva convention make him twice as bad as the supposed terrorists he was chasing.

His close relationship with the Saudis (A country which treats women as slaves) was sickening (Obama is no different).

Anyway, that's just my opinion.

There's a poll.
Vote in it in the way you want. It's private.
Feel free to voice your own opinion within the site rules.

admiralofthefleet

he laid the foundations for his son, thats for sure

prinz

Rushed into that one. I didn't realise Bush Snr was involved in unsanctioned wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

My name is URL

I went for option 3

I think he won the election because 'others' wanted him to, and was immediately burdened with.. well.. ya know

Terry

Wait. H. W. Was the father?

Threat title change then.

admiralofthefleet

Terry wrote: »

Wait. H. W. Was the father?

Threat title change then.

im still sticking to my op

Valmont

I don't think he was a War Criminal although the war itself was a mistake. There are far worse tyrants to be worried about in this world than ol' Georgey.

prinz

This relates to Dubya Junior then my answer is no. tbh I don't think he ordered, sanctioned or condoned the mistreatment of prisoners, eg in Abu Ghraib or Gitmo. Other people down the line did that. And Obama made the bigger mistake of not naming/shaming/and prosecuting them.

If you do GW, then half the world leaders of the time need to be rounded up too. Every coalition of the willing or whatever it was called leader, every country that gave any assistance... there'd be very few world leaders left.

Jigsaw

I think it may be hard to argue that he is a war criminal in that one may be pushed to find international legislation he is in breach of. That's not to say that he isn't guilty of actions which are arguably morally bankrupt.

One way or the other, I don't reckon you'll see him at the Hague any time soon.

c-note

lol what a thread
first you're asking about the wrong guy &

the options dont make sense:
is he a war criminal:
"no, he went to far circumstances be damned"?

hardly makes sense.

anyway i think the man lacked intelligence and that the real culprits were the dozen or so guys standing behind him, pulling the strings.

prinz

All this hullabaloo over what Dubya did and didn't do, meanwhile there's literally millions being killed and massacred in ethnic cleansing in the Congo, and the world stands by, America already has her hands full, and even if they did make a move in Africa, the same people would be crying 'warcrimes', how about they forget about the past and have a look at the far worse present.
The UN has no muscle whatsoever as has been shown repeatedly, the only competent peace keeping and peace enforcing missions have been regional rather than global. And the world's strongest military power is the USA. The next time some upstart little tyrant starts the march to war, people will be screaming for America to come and save them. Can't have it every way.

longshanks

he's not a war criminal, he's a very naughty boy

KerranJast

The US Congress voted for war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Oh btw Afghanistan was/is a NATO operation sanctioned by the UN. ALL the big UN members believed Iraq had WMDs they just couldn't agree how to proceed. Saddam was the anti-"boy who cried wolf". He claimed he had WMD so many times the World actually believed him, the nutter.

Bush is really under-rated as a comedian. Back when Russia invaded Georgia, he said "Russia has invaded a sovereign state...such an action is not acceptable in the 21st century."
Who says he can't do irony?

prinz

Deleted User wrote: »

Bush is really under-rated as a comedian. Back when Russia invaded Georgia, he said "Russia has invaded a sovereign state...such an action is not acceptable in the 21st century."
Who says he can't do irony?

That's the difference between global consensus and agreement and unilateral action with no justification other than to interfere in Georgian affairs, between ethnicities.

banquo

Heh.

In 2004 I was all for option 3, for the following reasons.

1. Everyone in the international community with decent [perhaps not best choice of word given the results] though Saddam had WMD. Now, I'm not for the it's-ok-for-us-to-have-guns-but-not-for-you American mentality, but this guy was a dick who ruled by fear. He doesn't get really big bombs. Forget the TV license.

2. People have been knocking the crap out of each other in that part of the world. Democracy ftw.

Since then, however, I've had a change of heart towards the man. I've seen him reverse the principles he championed abroad with a torture camp at home. I'd vote republican for their message of fiscal - and general personal - responsibility, yet he seems to have gone to town with the country's credit card. I don't like his tiny, generalised answers to difficult and complex questions. But this thread - back OT! - is about him as a war criminal.

I honestly don't know.

Twice, tens of millions of Americans voted him in, the second time in full knowledge of the past consequences and future plans for Iraq and Afghanistan. Britain and other countries sent their own troops. We let him use our airport.

I think that it's an easy thing to pick on an already unpopular public figure and put him in the dock. It's easy to speak of some general flaw in his character that led to the crimes we'd supposedly charge him for, and at the same time consistently ignore the same flaws of character that let Americans vote for the crime, other countries assist the crime, and us to refuel the means for the crime.

Jail? No. Censure at the very least, indictment at the very most.

Terry

c-note wrote: »

lol what a thread
first you're asking about the wrong guy &

the options dont make sense:
is he a war criminal:
"no, he went to far circumstances be damned"?

hardly makes sense.

No idea what you're talking about.

KerranJast wrote: »

The US Congress voted for war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Oh btw Afghanistan was/is a NATO operation sanctioned by the UN. ALL the big UN members believed Iraq had WMDs they just couldn't agree how to proceed. Saddam was the anti-"boy who cried wolf". He claimed he had WMD so many times the World actually believed him, the nutter.

The U.S. bullied the UN into submission.
The called for an invasion and it was rejected.
They then used their veto and called anyone who was against them a traitor (Freedom fries).

Their biggest enemy is Saudi Arabia, but they kiss Saudi arse for a few barrels of oil to keep their 4 litre cars running.

Holsten

Yes.... yes he is.

prinz

Terry wrote: »

Their biggest enemy is Saudi Arabia, but they kiss Saudi arse for a few barrels of oil to keep their 4 litre cars running.

Don't we all to some degree? :rolleyes:

Plus Saudi Arabia was virulently anti-Saddam after he fired missiles at them during Round 1.US needs some ally in the region, could you suggest a better one, who would work with the USA?

KerranJast

Terry wrote: »

The U.S. bullied the UN into submission.

Russia and China would disagree, but I suppose when they're blocking action on Lebanon/Syria/Darfur/North Korea its normal. When the US wants to push ahead with something it has to be bad. :rolleyes:
As for the Saudis, the US wants to be and will be well rid of them once they become energy independent. To quote Clarkson "back to carpet making for you lot".

Terry

banquo wrote: »

2. People have been knocking the crap out of each other in that part of the world. Democracy ftw.

Yeah!!!
Democracy.
Let's hear it for the democracy they brought to Afghanistan.
Raping your wife FTW.

Then there's the "Homicide" bombers in EYErrrraaawwwwkkk.
Allah forbid there be some people who are against a foreign nation coming in and murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
Let's call those against the invasion "insurgents".
How dare they fight against the good guys.
How dare they have a rising during Easter in the middle of a world war...
Wait, sorry, I forgot we were talking about Iraq. They're not an occupied country. They have democracy.

prinz

Terry wrote: »

Yeah!!!
Democracy.
Let's hear it for the democracy they brought to Afghanistan.
Raping your wife FTW.

Hang on, America cannot pick and choose the laws. On one hand you want them to bring democracy, on the other they should be laying down the law and telling the Afghan parliament what to do...... which way do you want it? It tooks years after our country was founded to correct that loophole so I'm not going to berate Afghanis for taking time to embrace real freedoms and human rights either. They don't have a lot of experience.

Terry wrote: »

Then there's the "Homicide" bombers in EYErrrraaawwwwkkk.
Allah forbid there be some people who are against a foreign nation coming in and murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
Let's call those against the invasion "insurgents".
How dare they fight against the good guys.
How dare they have a rising during Easter in the middle of a world war...
Wait, sorry, I forgot we were talking about Iraq. They're not an occupied country. They have democracy.

Murdering hundreds of thousands of civilians?
People die in invasions. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed when the allies pushed the nazis across Europe....... were they wrong to do it? No. That's the worst argument of all.

Plus most of the civilians are being killed by the insurgents bombings, who often times aren't even Iraqi. That is when they're not getting children and mentally handicapped girls to blow up soldiers at checkpoints.

K-9

He can claim insanity, considering who voted for him.

bug

yes I do purely on the basis that he represented the adminstration at the time.
I would however rather see numb nuts go free and get the great dissapearing Rumsfeldt, Cheney and other actual responsibles jailed and waterboarded themselves.

but what ya gonna do? It'll never happen, even if it did, the twists and turns of an Irish tribunal would shy in comparison to the great circ do soleil them lot would put on.

Biggins

Bush is a criminal of many kinds - including a war criminal.

Here are his first main 400 crimes: http://www.netrootsmass.net/hughs-bush-scandals-list/

Tyranax

No. He is not a war criminal. Why? Because, as has been mentioned, first of all Congress approved the war. They even gave him lots more money to fund it when he went back for it. He comprehensively won a re-election, against an admittidley weak opponent, or rather an opponent who failed to advertise himself effectively. Furthermore, where did George Bush order actions that could be construed as war crimes? Directly, where did that happen? I'm not saying that war crimes haven't occured, such as the murder of civilians, by some soldiers, and with regards to the blackhearted operations of the likes of PMC's like Blackwater, who were given impunity, and protection from prosecution??!? That was seriously wrong. But Bush himself did not personally sanction that, or directly approve it. Now, with regards Cheney and Rumsfeld, who had fingers in pies in some of the companies that were there, that's a different matter.


Bush is no inoccent in this story. In all likelyhood, they knew well in advance that there were no WMD's in Iraq.Furthermore, it's easy to be wise after the fact. But a lot of people went along with the idea that there were WMD's in Iraq. I certainly believed at the time that it was possible. I supported the war at the time. The war was done well. The aftermath of it was butchered. There was no plan. None. That to me, if not a war crime, is tantamount to criminal negligence on that Administrations part. But that's another discussion.


There was a suggestion in The Guardian's article on the British in Iraq a couple of days ago that Blair had agreed to join George's jaunt a full two years before it even happened, which is just incredible. But he will not be found guilty of war crimes. Nor should he be. He didn't commit them.

deadhead13

Biggins wrote: »

Bush is a criminal of many kinds - including a war criminal.

Here are his first main 400 crimes: http://www.netrootsmass.net/hughs-bush-scandals-list/

That is one long list.

Biggins

deadhead13 wrote: »

That is one long list.

Thats only the ones we know of so far...

The Short version...

1. Patient neglect at Walter Reed Army Hospital
Posted in: Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Supporting the troops, Whistleblower
2. US Attorney firings
Posted in: Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
3. Libby/Plame Affair (Outing a CIA agent)
Posted in: Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, Iraq
4. Iraq war
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, Middle East, WMD
5. Afghanistan (leaving before the job was done)
Posted in: Afghanistan, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror
6. Iran saber rattling
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iran, Middle East, WMD
7. North Korea (mishandling nuclear issue)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, WMD
8. The War on Terror (failure to capture Osama bin Laden, dubious allies)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror
9. Civilian contractors in Iraq (poor service for big bucks)
Posted in: Contractors, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
10. Military Commissions Act (torture, kangaroo courts, indefinite detention, and loss of habeas corpus)
Posted in: Guantanamo, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Torture, War on Terror
11. Hurricane Katrina and the drowning of New Orleans
Posted in: Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Katrina
12. NSA warrantless wiretapping
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Revolving Door, Surveillance, War on Terror, Whistleblower
13. SWIFT (international money transfers)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Surveillance, War on Terror
14. Black sites and rendition
Posted in: Guantanamo, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Torture, War on Terror
15. Department of Homeland Security (a massive boondoggle)
Posted in: DHS/Homeland Security, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror
16. K Street lobbyists (for government you can buy)
Posted in: Abramoff, Corruption, Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
17. Dusty Foggo (No. 3 at the CIA)
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
18. Duke Cunningham (a corrupt politician)
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Sex
19. Tom Delay (another corrupt politician)
Posted in: Abramoff, Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
20. Mark Foley and the House pages
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Sex
21. Cheney Energy Task Force (and hiding info about it)
Posted in: Energy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
22. Tax cuts for the richest of the rich
Posted in: Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
23. Global warming (denial and stalling)
Posted in: Energy, Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General
24. Terri Schiavo and the attempted trashing of family privacy rights
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Political Interference, Religion
25. Budget deficits and a greatly increased national debt
Posted in: Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
26. Stacking of the Supreme Court (Roberts and Alito)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
27. Medicare( lack of long term solvency)
Posted in: Economy, Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
28. Medicare Part D (Drug prescriptions)
Posted in: Corruption, Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
29. Healthcare general mess
Posted in: Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
30. Doug Feith (stovepiping Iraq intel)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General, Intelligence, Iraq, Political Interference
31. 2000 election (stolen)
Posted in: Elections, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
32. 2004 election (rigging)
Posted in: Elections, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
33. 9/11 Commission limitation and manipulation of
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Political Interference, War on Terror
34. 9/11 Commission’s recommendations delayed implementation
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic, War on Terror
35. Marginalization of the UN
Posted in: Foreign Affairs, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
36. Preventive war doctrine
Posted in: Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, Law/Constitution, War on Terror
37. Loss of US prestige
Posted in: Foreign Affairs, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror
38. Inaction on Israeli-Palestinian peace process
Posted in: Foreign Affairs, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Middle East
39. Lack of spending on basic research
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Science
40. Alberto Gonzales
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Politicization of the DOJ, War on Terror
41. FDA restricting the mission
Posted in: Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
42. EPA restricting the mission
Posted in: Energy, Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
43. Porter Goss trashing the CIA
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Intelligence
44. Militarization of intelligence
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence
45. Rampant cronyism
Posted in: Corruption, Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
46. Signing statements
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
47. Unilateral Executive
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
48. Abuse of the National Guard
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Supporting the troops
49. Breaking the Army
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Supporting the troops
50. Increase in the balance of trade deficit
Posted in: Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
51. Grassley Bankruptcy Bill (creditors favored over debtors)
Posted in: Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
52. Cross border Mexican truck safety
Posted in: Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
53. Rove’s security clearance (kept after his part in outing Valerie Plame)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, Politics/Domestic
54. Anti-immigration raids (children and parents separated)
Posted in: DHS/Homeland Security, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Immigration
55. Dubai Ports deal (a Middle East company in charge of US ports in the age of terrorism)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic, War on Terror
56. Patriot Act and its Extension
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, War on Terror
57. Privatization of Social Security (a bad idea endlessly recycled)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
58. War on Science
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Science
59. David Safavian (Abramoff associate)
Posted in: Abramoff, Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
60. Claude Allen (White House adviser caught shoplifting)
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
61. Bush lying about firing Rumsfeld before the November 2006 election
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
62. Armstrong Williams (paid propagandists)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Media
63. Labor Department (ground down by Mitch McConnell’s wife)
Posted in: Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Labor, Politics/Domestic
64. Net neutrality/media ownership
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Media
65. Israeli bombing of Lebanon (delay in putting a ceasefire in place)
Posted in: Foreign Affairs, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Middle East
66. PDB on Bin Laden (ignoring the terrorist threat pre-9/11)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, War on Terror
67. Ground Zero declared non-toxic
Posted in: Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror
68. Sago mining disaster (non-enforcement of safety regs)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Labor
69. Harriet Miers Supreme Court nomination (a supreme act of cronyism)
Posted in: Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
70. Vetoing stem cell research
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Science
71. Plan B contraception
Posted in: Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
72. Clear Skies/ Healthy Forests Acts (weakening pollution controls and opening forests to logging)
Posted in: Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
73. Ballistic missile shield (only works to antagonize the Russians)
Posted in: Foreign Affairs, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
74. Leandro Aragoncillo (the spy in Cheney’s office)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
75. Overseas AIDS programs (reflecting the Administration’s benighted views on sex)
Posted in: Foreign Affairs, Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
76. Constitutional amendment against gay marriage
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Religion
77. Drilling in Bristol Bay, Alaska
Posted in: Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
78. Canard of Clintons trashing the White House before leaving
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
79. Jeff Gannon (a male prostitute in the White House press corps)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Media
80. Native American trust funds
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Politics/Domestic
81. Creationist materials at national parks
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Science
82. Returning US war dead (banning photographing the returning coffins)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Supporting the troops
83. False military reporting (Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch)
Posted in: Afghanistan, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Media
84. AIPAC spy scandal
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence
85. Detainee court cases (a quick guide)
Posted in: Guantanamo, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, War on Terror
86. Opening US mail
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, Law/Constitution
87. Subprime mortgage bubble
Posted in: Corruption, Economy, Elections, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
88. Bush’s ties to Enron
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Political Interference
89. 2001 California energy crisis (refusal to intervene in this Enron manufactured crisis)
Posted in: Corruption, Energy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
90. Darfur (calling it genocide is not a policy)
Posted in: Foreign Affairs, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
91. Russian loose nukes (underfunding)
Posted in: Foreign Affairs, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, WMD
92. OPR Gonzales investigation (stymied)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
93. Interference in lawsuit against Big Tobacco
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
94. Phone jamming in New Hampshire (with White House connections)
Posted in: Corruption, Elections, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
95. Steven Griles (Abramoff’s man at Interior)
Posted in: Abramoff, Corruption, Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
96. US Attorney targeting of Democratic office holders
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
97. Interim US Attorney provision (an attempt to appoint USAs without Senate approval)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
98. FBI National Security Letters (overuse and abuse)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, Law/Constitution
99. GSA (Hatch Act violations)
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
100. Karl Rove
Posted in: Abramoff, Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
101. Civil Rights Division at Justice (voter fraud used to suppress minority voting)
Posted in: Corruption, Elections, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
102. Campaign finance (still rotten)
Posted in: Corruption, Elections
103. Swift boating of John Kerry
Posted in: Elections, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
104. No Child Left Behind (an uneducated President’s predictable approach to education)
Posted in: Education, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
105. Susan Dudley (an anti-regulator regulator)
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
106. Paul Wolfowitz (two disasters for the price of one: Iraq and the World Bank)
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Cronyism, Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, War on Terror
107. Kenneth Tomlinson (conservative interference in public broadcasting)
Posted in: Corruption, Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Media
108. Matteo Fontana (student loan administrator bought and paid for by student loan companies)
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Media
109. Rachel Paulose (abrasive crony interim USA for Minnesota)
Posted in: Elections, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
110. White House email on RNC servers (in contravention of White House Records Act)
Posted in: Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence
111. Georgia Thompson Wisconsin employee railroaded by Republican USA before an election
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
112. Pre-election investigation of Bob Menendez
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
113. Kay James (political hires)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
114. Bernard Kerik (Giuliani crony)
Posted in: Cronyism, DHS/Homeland Security, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq
115. Bush’s early years
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
116. Watch lists (so many, so large, so ineffective)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror
117. Classification and de-classification Cheney style
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
118. Cheney shoots Harry Whittington
Posted in: Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Media
119. ATS (another database, this one at the DHS)
Posted in: DHS/Homeland Security, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror
120. Scalia conflict of interest (his duck hunting trip with Cheney)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, Political Interference
121. Election Assistance Commission (suppressed a report showing voter fraud was not a problem)
Posted in: Elections, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Political Interference
122. Attacks against Mohammed ElBaradei (mostly for being right about Iraqi and Iranian WMD)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, WMD
123. Alice Fisher (Criminal Division Justice)
Posted in: Abramoff, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
124. House Ethics Committee (the ethics part is just for laughs)
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
125. Media complicity in the Bush years
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Media
126. Democratic inaction (in the same time frame)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
127. Lack of Republican oversight (ditto)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
128. AUMF against Iraq (often cited, seldom read)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, War on Terror
129. Medals of Freedom for the disaster in Iraq
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq
130. Real ID Act
Posted in: Elections, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Surveillance
131. Jose Padilla (an American enemy combatant)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, War on Terror
132. Electronic prescription reporting
Posted in: Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence
133. Jean-Bertrand Aristide (Haiti)
Posted in: Foreign Affairs, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
134. Hugo Chavez (Venezuela)
Posted in: Foreign Affairs, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
135. Ethanol (a political fuel)
Posted in: Energy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
136. Republican filibustering
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
137. Stacking of federal judiciary with hacks
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
138. Ralph Reed (Abramoff associate)
Posted in: Abramoff, Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
139. Proselytizing at the US Air Force Academy
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Religion
140. Office of Faith Based Initiatives (a sop to the religious right)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic, Religion
141. Military disability ratings (another story of how Bush really supports the troops)
Posted in: Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Supporting the troops
142. Earmarks (good when Republicans do them, bad when Democrats use them)
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
143. Medicare privatization (more victimization of the elderly)
Posted in: Corruption, Health
144. Nuclear proliferation (a very unequal approach)
Posted in: Foreign Affairs, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, WMD
145. Julie MacDonald (Fish and Wildlife)
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
146. Darleen Druyum (defense procurement scam)
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Revolving Door
147. Luis Posada Carriles/Vang Pao (terrorists but our terrorist)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror
148. No White House investigation into Plame affair
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, Iraq
149. Politics at NASA
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Inspector General
150. Attempt to limit federal prisoners testifying before Congress
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
151. Corporate remuneration
Posted in: Corruption, Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
152. Financial analysis and investment (a supposed separation)
Posted in: Corruption, Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
153. Scott Bloch (whistleblower protection, not really)
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Corruption, Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Whistleblower
154. Richard Levernier and Bogdan Dzakovic (whistleblowers)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror, Whistleblower
155. Sibel Edmonds (whistleblower)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror, Whistleblower
156. Monica Goodling (political hires)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
157. Michael Baroody and the Consumer Products Safety Commission
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
158. TALON (Pentagon surveillance of civilians)
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence
159. Scripted Iraqi war White House news conference
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, Media
160. Bill Frist and healthcare giant HCA
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
161. Julie Myers (Immigration)
Posted in: Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Immigration, Law/Constitution
162. Randall Tobias (AIDS coordinator with a yen)
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
163. Robert Coughlin (Abramoff tie in)
Posted in: Abramoff, Corruption, Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
164. Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction is a thankless job
Posted in: Contractors, Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
165. Continuing Republican support for the Iraq war despite the public’s rejection of it
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq
166. Border Fence with Mexico (a short fence for a long border)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Immigration, Politics/Domestic
167. Bush coverup strategies to defeat Congressional oversight
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
168. Gordon Smith campaign and White House help
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
169. Debra Yang (US Attorney)
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
170. Elizabeth Cheney (nepotism)
Posted in: Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iran, Iraq
171. Dick Cheney
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, Law/Constitution
172. Oil lease fiascos
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Energy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
173. Guantanamo defense counsels (not the path to career advancement)
Posted in: Guantanamo, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, War on Terror
174. VA bonuses (for a job not well done)
Posted in: Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Supporting the troops
175. Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (another ineffective board and doctored report)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror
176. Johnnie Frazier (Commerce IG)
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General
177. Bill Roderick (EPA IG)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General
178. Janet Rehnquist (HHS IG)
Posted in: Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General, Politics/Domestic
179. Karla Corcoran (Post Office IG)
Posted in: Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General
180. Polar bears, global warming, and censorship
Posted in: Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Science
181. American Center for Voting Rights (fake voter fraud group)
Posted in: Elections, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
182. MTBE (gas additive)
Posted in: Energy, Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
183. FBI domestic spying without probable cause
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence
184. Gutting overtime pay regulations
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Labor
185. Leaving the International Criminal Court
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
186. Dissemination of medical information
Posted in: Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
187. Deregulation of energy companies
Posted in: Energy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
188. James Holsinger (Anti-gay Surgeon General nominee)
Posted in: Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Political Interference, Religion, War on Science
189. Italia Federici (Abramoff crony)
Posted in: Abramoff, Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
190. Thomas Barnett (Anti-trust Division Justice)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Political Interference
191. Palestinian civil war
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Middle East
192. A list of reasons to invade Iraq
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq
193. A list of Iraq war turning points
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq
194. Torture and Guantanamo
Posted in: Guantanamo, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, Torture, War on Terror
195. Torture and Iraq
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, Law/Constitution, Torture
196. Dick Cheney and the Fourth Branch
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
197. Bill Mercer and the US Attorney scandal
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
198. John Rizzo (CIA lawyer permissive of torture)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, Torture
199. Public Interest Declassification Board (a useless entity)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, WMD
200. SCOTUS: Parents Involved in Community Schools v. Seattle School Dist. No. 1 (integration)
Posted in: Education, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
201. SCOTUS: Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. (gender discrimination)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Labor, Law/Constitution
202. SCOTUS: Federal Election Commission v. Wisconsin Right to Life (issue oriented political advertising)
Posted in: Elections, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
203. SCOTUS: Morse et al v. Frederick (free speech of minors)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
204. SCOTUS: Leegin Creative Leather Products, Inc. v. PSKS, Inc. (price fixing OK’ed)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
205. Booz Allen cost overruns on DHS intelligence contract and DHS incompetence
Posted in: Contractors, Cronyism, DHS/Homeland Security, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
206. Alphonso Jackson (Secretary HUD and political interference)
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Corruption, Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General
207. Donald Rumsfeld
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Iraq, Torture, War on Terror
208. SCOTUS: Rapanos v. United States (wetland protection)
Posted in: Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
209. Attempts to overturn the Roadless Rule protection of wilderness areas
Posted in: Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
210. An unreported leak of highly enriched uranium
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence
211. Opening up the San Rafael Swell to development
Posted in: Cronyism, Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
212. Pro-rating the value of older Americans at the EPA
Posted in: Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
213. Shoddy armoring kits for Humvees from defense contractors
Posted in: Contractors, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Supporting the troops
214. Senator David Vitter (a family values conservative who likes to visit prostitutes)
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Sex
215. Nuclear Regulatory Commission control of radioactive materials remain ineffective
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, WMD, War on Terror
216. Hedge fund profits while huge are taxed at lower rates
Posted in: Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
217. SAIC, the revolving door, and expensive contracts for systems that don’t work
Posted in: Contractors, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, Revolving Door
218. MRAP, delay in deployment of IED resistant vehicles to Iraq
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Supporting the troops, Whistleblower
219. Intelligence Oversight Board which did nothing during 5 1/2 years of Bush excesses
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence
220. DHS employed Wackenhut for its security, a firm that just may be more incompetent than the DHS
Posted in: Contractors, DHS/Homeland Security, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence
221. Drug czar John Walters and Hatch Act violations
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
222. SCHIP (children’s healthcare less important than insurance company profits)
Posted in: Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
223. Alaska’s two Senators and one Congressman all caught up in corruption scandals
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
224. Don Siegelman (ex-Governor of Alabama and a political prosecution with ties to Karl Rove)
Posted in: Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Politicization of the DOJ, Whistleblower
225. FEMA trailers for Katrina victims with high levels of formaldehyde
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Katrina
226. The White House declares that Harriet Miers doesn’t have to answer a subpoena based on a legal opinion by a lawyer who legally should no longer be in his post
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Law/Constitution
227. White House says it will not prosecute contempt citations
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, Politicization of the DOJ
228. Matthew McKeown a political appointee hired into a career position at Interior
Posted in: Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
229. Attempted political interference in Oxycontin plea deal
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Political Interference
230. David Petraeus mislays 350,000 rifles and pistols in Iraq
Posted in: Contractors, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Iraq
231. David Palmer (EOCC nomination despite poor management and legal skills)
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
232. Peter Kirsanow affirmative action opponent named to Civil Rights Commission
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Labor
233. Patriot Act Extension gave the AG the right to decide if death penalty defendants were adequately represented
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
234. Petraeus report (hyped by the White House but actually written by it and not presented by Petraeus)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, Politics/Domestic
235. Richard Stickler (opposed to mine safety regulation nominated to head Mine Safety)
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Labor
236. Daniel Pipes (anti-Moslem appointed to the US Institute of Peace)
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
237. Nicole Nason (head of National Traffic Safety Administration bans experts from talking with public)
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Media
238. Senator Larry Craig arrested for soliciting sex with a male police officer
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Sex
239. Auditor of no bid KBR Iraq contract demoted
Posted in: Contractors, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
240. ADVISE DHS data mining program inappropriately reviewed
Posted in: DHS/Homeland Security, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence
241. Use of state secrets argument
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
242. Breastfeeding campaign changed due to infant formula manufacturers‚ pressure
Posted in: Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Political Interference
243. Consumer Products Safety Commission gutted
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
244. Steven Law (Mitch McConnell crony)
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Labor
245. Iraq met few of the Bush Administration’s own benchmarks
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq
246. Peter Keisler (Civil Division Justice)
Posted in: Guantanamo, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, Political Interference
247. Six nuclear tipped cruise missiles flown across US in massive security breach
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, WMD
248. Marion Blakey (FAA head takes job with industry trade group)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Revolving Door
249. DOJ announces it will not prosecute Chiquita Banana executives for paying off Columbian terrorists
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror
250. Alexis Debat neocon terrorism expert caught making up numerous interviews
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iran, Media, War on Terror
251. Howard Krongard (State IG more interested in covering up department misdeeds)
Posted in: Afghanistan, Contractors, Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General, Iraq
252. Telecoms involved in warrantless wiretapping are represented by former government officials and protected by current officials who used to work for them
Posted in: Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, Law/Constitution, Surveillance
253. Turbulence, an NSA/DHS intrusive cyber surveillance program
Posted in: DHS/Homeland Security, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, Surveillance
254. Charles Reichers procurement officer benefitted from contractor largesse
Posted in: Contractors, Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
255. Karl Zinsmeister kooky White House domestic policy adviser
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic, Sex
256. Blackwater (private security contractor involved in numerous incidents in Iraq)
Posted in: Contractors, Criminality, Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq
257. Runup to the Iraq war (in quotes)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, WMD
258. State Department gives grant to Taliban
Posted in: Afghanistan, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror
259. Failure to spend funds to exonerate individuals through DNA testing
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence
260. Proposed DHS use of flawed Social Security info to weed out undocumented workers
Posted in: DHS/Homeland Security, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Immigration, Incompetence
261. CIA Director investigates his own Inspector General
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General, Intelligence
262. Joseph Schmitz (partisan former DOD IG)
Posted in: Contractors, Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Inspector General, Revolving Door
263. Chemical restraints used on undocumented immigrants
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Immigration, Torture
264. Downing Street memo (Bush determined to go to war, non-coverage by US press)
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, Media
265. Michael Mukasey nominated as AG, makes clear he will back all of Bush’s policies
Posted in: Guantanamo, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, Politicization of the DOJ, Torture
266. In test, airport screeners miss most fake bombs; near collisions between aircraft on the ground little changed
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror
267. Dyncorp was given a billion dollars to train the Iraqi police force
Posted in: Contractors, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq
268. Abdallah Higazy mistakenly arrested and held after 9/11
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Torture, War on Terror
269. Racist, anti-gay judge Leslie Southwick confirmed by Senate to Court of Appeals
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
270. Holy Land Foundation accused of funding terrorists; signature case ends in big mistrial
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, War on Terror
271. Two antagonistic anti-corruption units in Iraq
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Iraq
272. Medical contract for National Guard let to cronies
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Revolving Door
273. Fake FEMA news conference
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Media
274. Zacarias Moussaoui case
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, War on Terror
275. Failure to secure fissile material at American nuclear sites
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, WMD, War on Terror
276. NIE summaries no longer to be released
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, Iran
277. Donald Vance (whistleblower) held for 3 months without charge by US military
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, Whistleblower
278. Sami al Haj and Bilal Hussein, newsmen, held without charge
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, Law/Constitution, Media, War on Terror
279. Stacking the Commission on Civil Rights with Republicans
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
280. Beating the war drums and the November 2007 NIE on Iran
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iran, Iraq, WMD, War on Terror
281. Donald Kerr, No. 2 to DNI Mike McConnell, declares anonymity a thing of the past
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, Law/Constitution, Revolving Door
282. Bush visit “free speech” zones
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
283. Executive order authorizing political commissars at federal agencies
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
284. Al Hubbard wrongheaded Bush economic adviser leaves post
Posted in: Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence
285. Push for last minute pro-business regulations
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
286. Right to kidnap foreign nationals even of countries with an extradition treaty
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror
287. White House logs declared a state secret
Posted in: Abramoff, Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
288. Torture tapes made then destroyed
Posted in: Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, Torture
289. Social Security disability backlogs growing
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
290. Proposal (withdrawn) to place JAG corps under politically appointed DOD counsel
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, Politics/Domestic
291. Increasing mental health needs in US Army after service in Iraq
Posted in: Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Supporting the troops
292. KBR employee raped in Iraq held against will by KBR
Posted in: Contractors, Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General, Iraq
293. Another data base this one an FBI biometric system
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Surveillance, War on Terror
294. Eric Andell (Education) in travel scandal
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
295. Lester Crawford (FDA) Plan B and conflicts of interest
Posted in: Corruption, Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
296. Carl Truscott (ATF) more interested in decorating his office than doing his job
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, War on Terror
297. John Korsmo illegal campaign event
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
298. Bush job creation (not)
Posted in: Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
299. US Attorney Chris Christie steering contracts
Posted in: Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
300. FBI not paying phone bills for wiretaps
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, War on Terror
301. DC Circuit court says torture is OK; detainees not persons
Posted in: Guantanamo, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, Torture, War on Terror
302. DHS’ goofy terrorist target list
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, War on Terror
303. Unnecessary intrusive background checks
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, War on Terror
304. Boats that don’t float
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Whistleblower
305. Cambone’s soft landing
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Revolving Door
306. More incompetence at the VA
Posted in: Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Supporting the troops
307. The diving dollar
Posted in: Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
308. Soaring oil and gas prices
Posted in: Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
309. John Bolton, International Man of Disaster
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Cronyism, Foreign Affairs, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, WMD
310. Bush versus the whales
Posted in: Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
311. The Federal (non)- Protective Service
Posted in: DHS/Homeland Security, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, War on Terror
312. A buried report on Iraq reconstruction
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq
313. A buried report on Great Lakes pollution
Posted in: Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Science, Whistleblower
314. A buried report on privatizing US intelligence
Posted in: Contractors, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence
315. Rick Renzi for hire
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
316. Understaffing at State
Posted in: Foreign Affairs, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence
317. Understaffing at the US Park Police
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, War on Terror, Whistleblower
318. William Haynes the Pentagon’s torture lawyer
Posted in: Guantanamo, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, Torture, War on Terror
319. Emasculating oversight boards
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
320. Americans behind bars
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, Politics/Domestic
321. Manipulating reports at the EPA
Posted in: Environment, Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic, War on Science
322. Timothy Goeglein, a faith-based plagiarist
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Religion
323. Substandard military helmets
Posted in: Contractors, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Whistleblower
324. In the bag at the SEC
Posted in: Criminality, Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General, Political Interference, Whistleblower
325. Another punished whistleblower
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Whistleblower
326. Inspector Generals, a broken system
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General
327. Staying in Iraq forever
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, War on Terror
328. The National Data Exchange
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, War on Terror
329. A crook at the House Republican campaign committee
Posted in: Corruption, Criminality, Elections, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic
330. A semi-buried report on Saddam and al Qaeda
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, War on Terror
331. Freedom of Information, well not so much
Posted in: DHS/Homeland Security, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence
332. Running interference for crooks in LA
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
333. Government by contractor
Posted in: Contractors, Corruption, Cronyism, DHS/Homeland Security, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence
334. Bad ammo, worse contractors
Posted in: Afghanistan, Contractors, Corruption, Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, War on Terror
335. Another one bites the dust
Posted in: Corruption, Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General
336. Monica Goodling strikes again
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ, Sex
337. The FAA and the less than safe skies
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General, Whistleblower
338. Pentagon waste in acquisition spending
Posted in: Contractors, Foreign Affairs, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence
339. Abuse in the government’s SmartPay card program
Posted in: Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
340. Rumsfeld’s army of the future
Posted in: Foreign Affairs, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence
341. The Supreme Court: Physicians of last resort
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
342. al Qaeda safe havens in Pakistan’s Tribal Areas
Posted in: Afghanistan, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, War on Terror
343. Torture in Afghanistan in 2003
Posted in: Afghanistan, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Torture, War on Terror
344. The military propagandists
Posted in: Afghanistan, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General, Iraq, Media, War on Terror
345. The Indiana voter ID case
Posted in: Elections, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
346. No Child Left Behind’s Reading First boondoggle
Posted in: Corruption, Cronyism, Education, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
347. Cheney and the right whales
Posted in: Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Science
348. The EPA, Mary Gade, and dioxin
Posted in: Environment, Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
349. Conflicts of interest in NASA’s moon project
Posted in: Contractors, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General, Revolving Door
350. Poorly secured nuclear material at Lawrence Livermore
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror
351. Iraqi anti-corruption chief held out to dry
Posted in: Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq
352. FDA loosens rules for drug trials in Third World countries
Posted in: Corruption, Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
353. Another attempt to restrict information
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, War on Terror
354. USDA to no longer track pesticide use
Posted in: Environment, Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
355. Department of Defense can not account for billions it spent in Iraq
Posted in: Corruption, Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Inspector General, Iraq
356. Pentagon aeronautics contractor supplies dubious products for aircraft
Posted in: Contractors, Corruption, Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Inspector General
357. Pentagon has too few auditors for its weapons acquisition programs
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Inspector General
358. Failure of KBR to fix electrical problems leads to soldier’s electrocution
Posted in: Contractors, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Supporting the troops
359. Investigating the run up to the Iraq War
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, Iraq, Media
360. KBR dodges an audit and ditches the auditor
Posted in: Contractors, Corruption, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq
361. A medical report on torture
Posted in: Afghanistan, Guantanamo, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, Torture
362. KBR exposed US soldiers to a carcinogen in Iraq
Posted in: Contractors, Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, Supporting the troops
363. Political Selection in Justice Department internship programs
Posted in: Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
364. Supreme Court: 2nd Amendment applies to individuals
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution
365. Speculation in crude oil futures markets
Posted in: Economy, Energy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence
366. The anthrax attacks, a blown investigation
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Law/Constitution, Media, War on Terror
367. War, oil, oil companies, and Iraq
Posted in: Contractors, Energy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq
368. SEC to reduce oversight of international corporations and markets
Posted in: Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
369. Pentagon General lies to Congress about KBR Iraq water contract
Posted in: Contractors, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, Supporting the troops
370. Renting public officials to pay for the Bush Library
Posted in: Corruption, Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
371. HHS seeks to permit refusal of services for women
Posted in: Health, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
372. Fusion Centers and Domestic Intelligence
Posted in: DHS/Homeland Security, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, Surveillance, War on Terror
373. Bush tax policy favors foreign corporations
Posted in: Economy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
374. Selling off the country’s roads
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Cronyism, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
375. The Hubbush letter and a forged justification for war
Posted in: Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, Iraq, War on Terror
376. Policing the national political conventions
Posted in: Elections, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Law/Constitution, Media, Politics/Domestic, Surveillance, War on Terror
377. Gonzales’ mishandling of national security document
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, Inspector General, Intelligence
378. KBR and forced labor in Iraq
Posted in: Contractors, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Iraq, Law/Constitution
379. The GSA opposes 9/11 safety changes in building construction
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence
380. Republican US Attorney downplays Obama assassination plot
Posted in: Abramoff, Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ, War on Terror
381. Labor Department pulls rug out from under corporate whistleblowers
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Labor, Law/Constitution, Whistleblower
382. More corruption in the government’s oil leasing programs
Posted in: Contractors, Corruption, Criminality, Cronyism, Energy, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
383. Active duty Army unit to be deployed for domestic operations
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politics/Domestic, War on Terror
384. Datamining: Intrusive and it doesn’t work
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Intelligence, Law/Constitution, War on Terror
385. Corruption in the missile defense program
Posted in: Contractors, Corruption, Criminality, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
386. Failure to outfit planes to fight fires in Southern California
Posted in: Contractors, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence
387. Political censorship at PBS
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Media, Political Interference, Torture
388. Religious profiling at the DHS
Posted in: DHS/Homeland Security, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Incompetence, War on Terror
389. A political hit: Michael Garcia and Eliot Spitzer
Posted in: Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ, Sex
390. Voter suppression efforts in the 2008 elections
Posted in: Elections, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
391. The Bureau of Land Management and shady deals in Utah again
Posted in: Cronyism, Energy, Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
392. BP receives a slap on the wrist from Justice Department
Posted in: Criminality, Energy, Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Politicization of the DOJ
393. Oh, and another Bureau of Land Management shady deal in the West
Posted in: Energy, Environment, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals
394. Transportation Department relaxes rules on truckdriving safety
Posted in: Anti-candidate, Hugh's List of Bush Scandals, Labor
395. Lax oversight at the Office of Thrift Supervision contributed to bank failures
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397. Government OK’s dumping mining debris in and near streams
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prinz

Biggins wrote: »

Bush is a criminal of many kinds - including a war criminal.

Here are his first main 400 crimes: http://www.netrootsmass.net/hughs-bush-scandals-list/

scandals.... not crimes..

deadhead13

The US Congress and British Parliament voted for the invasion of Iraq on the understanding that proof of WMD existed.

Did Bush and Blair know this evidence was in fact bogus? I think so.

Is effectively lying to the US Congress and the British Parliament to start a war an illegal act? Yes.

Will Bush or Blair ever be prosecuted for it? No.

Biggins

prinz wrote: »

scandals.... not crimes..

Fair enough, if you want to be picky!
Here are some of his crimes then! Jeeze... :rolleyes:

http://bushcrimes.net/index.php

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/bushco/bush_crime_family.htm

Simple single example: the Habbush letter!

K-9

I still blame democracy.

Sea Sharp

Yes, but so was every American president that lead during war-times in the passed 100 years.

The Americans committed war-crimes in WW2, Vietnam and Iraq.

Prosecution for war crimes only happens when a government has been completely militarily defeated.

So nothing is gonna be done to owl Georgie.

The world is not fair... Tough sh1t!!!!

WoollyRedHat

prinz wrote: »

All this hullabaloo over what Dubya did and didn't do, meanwhile there's literally millions being killed and massacred in ethnic cleansing in the Congo, and the world stands by, America already has her hands full, and even if they did make a move in Africa, the same people would be crying 'warcrimes', how about they forget about the past and have a look at the far worse present.
The UN has no muscle whatsoever as has been shown repeatedly, the only competent peace keeping and peace enforcing missions have been regional rather than global. And the world's strongest military power is the USA. The next time some upstart little tyrant starts the march to war, people will be screaming for America to come and save them. Can't have it every way.

Ah yes, America, saviour of countries, such a selfless country who comes to the aid of all those who need them, not seeking any reward or any personal motivation.
The U.S is constantly caught up in it's own interests and agenda. Anyone think the U.S actually cares is fooling themselves.

Should Bush be arrested? But he was only a puppet? Who gives a ****. He still knew his adminstration was responsible for the loss of innocents among countless other things. He deserves to go down, he still played his part, even if he wasn't the supposed mastermind...

banquo

deadhead13 wrote: »

That is one long list.

Certainly is.

I dare someone to quote the list.

prinz

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Ah yes, America, saviour of countries, such a selfless country who comes to the aid of all those who need them, not seeking any reward or any personal motivation.
The U.S is constantly caught up in it's own interests and agenda. Anyone think the U.S actually cares is fooling themselves.

So America's interest and agenda in fighting World War I in Europe?
America's interest and agenda in fighting the Nazis? And the Marshall Plan? In Korea? In the first Gulf War............ the list is endless tbh.

Not to mention being the one country everyone calls on to sort any trouble out.

WoollyRedHat

The list of obvious abuses of power and meddling with power is also endless. As is the list of people who have died due to American agression,

RATM

prinz wrote: »

This relates to Dubya Junior then my answer is no. tbh I don't think he ordered, sanctioned or condoned the mistreatment of prisoners, eg in Abu Ghraib or Gitmo. Other people down the line did that.

Sounds like the world's first case of 'reverse Nuremburg Defence'

"It wasn't me guv'nor, I was only following orders from below!'

He's the President. He's the Commander in Chief. That's where the buck lays.

Interestingly there's currently two statements in international relations that never fail to compound me.
1) No democracy has ever suffered a famine.
2) No former Western leader has ever gone on trial in a developing nation.

My guess is that eventually Bush will end up occupying the same peripheral space as Kissinger- before he flies anywhere he'll always, for the rest of his life, have to get a team of lawyers to make sure he can't be arrested on the soil he lands on.

RATM

banquo wrote: »

Certainly is.

I dare someone to quote the list.

the list :pac:

Now I dare you to light 400 candles in your fancy Maynooth church, one for every crime on that list

Dark_lord_ire

Yes he is. He was right to go for afganistan was always behind that. Iraq was a huge mistake. He lied and knew well there was no WMD there and denied hans blix time to prove that. Also warping rules of war to allow torture. If a fighter is captured on the battlefield alive he should be dealt with according to international law before a court and if needs be kill them if found guilty. But to warp things as bush did he is the one who should be before an international court.

Obama is different but he has been landed with the problems created by bush and that's not something that can be changed overnight.

thebman

prinz wrote: »

So America's interest and agenda in fighting World War I in Europe?
America's interest and agenda in fighting the Nazis? And the Marshall Plan? In Korea? In the first Gulf War............ the list is endless tbh.

Not to mention being the one country everyone calls on to sort any trouble out.

So heavy lies the crown?

Nodin

banquo wrote: »

Heh.

In 2004 I was all for option 3, for the following reasons.

1. Everyone in the international community with decent [perhaps not best choice of word given the results] though Saddam had WMD. .

Nope. They though he he might have a few cans of gas, but that would be about it. Heres the Brit view from 2002.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article387374.ece

'no threat to his neighbours'....Hardly the 'clear and present danger' of the propoganda.

bartholomewbinn

War criminals only come from the side that lost the war. If Germany had won WW2 Churchill would have been executed. That the way it is.

Sanjuro

He was the President. The Commander In Chief. All decisions, orders and responsibility lies with him. Therefore if there were war crimes committed, then yes, he is a war criminal. And by god, Donald Rumsfeld was one, and so is Dubya.

Hagar

We find the defendant not guilty, by reason of insanity.

ShooterSF

bartholomewbinn wrote: »

War criminals only come from the side that lost the war. If Germany had won WW2 Churchill would have been executed. That the way it is.

This. History is wrote by the winners.

nacho libre

prinz wrote: »

That's the difference between global consensus and agreement and unilateral action with no justification other than to interfere in Georgian affairs, between ethnicities.

nice spin there. the other nations were bribed into supporting the expansionist project, known as the Iraq war, because America is the top dog. for public consumption it was couched in language like coalition of the willing. as you know full well the nations who supported the war did so simply because it was about getting scraps from the table.

it seems to me those criticising Russia over Georgia are guilty of hypocrisy, because they are prepared to defend America for engaing in agressive action to safeguard their geo-political interests yet Russia are taken to task when they do the same thing
lets cut through the bluster those who defend America over Iraq and their countless crimes in central and south america over the last thirty year, is essentially that it's better the bully we know because afterall the alternative is far worse, China could be in charge. This defense is akin to the child who tries to deflect his wrongdoing by pointing out the wrong doing of someone else.

brianthebard

prinz wrote: »

All this hullabaloo over what Dubya did and didn't do, meanwhile there's literally millions being killed and massacred in ethnic cleansing in the Congo, and the world stands by, America already has her hands full, and even if they did make a move in Africa, the same people would be crying 'warcrimes', how about they forget about the past and have a look at the far worse present.
The UN has no muscle whatsoever as has been shown repeatedly, the only competent peace keeping and peace enforcing missions have been regional rather than global. And the world's strongest military power is the USA. The next time some upstart little tyrant starts the march to war, people will be screaming for America to come and save them. Can't have it every way.

America is already deeply involved in the Congo, its given masses of aid to Uganda and Rwanda, part of the coalition of the willing, which has been spent on weapons to extract resources from the DRC. American companies have signed huge mining concessions with rebel groups which funds and continues the conflict. America supported the dictator Mobutu for over 30 years then dumped him when he was no longer useful.
Yes the USA is heavily, deeply involved in the Congo tragedy. Its working out well isn't it?

Lirange

brianthebard wrote: »

America is already deeply involved in the Congo, its given masses of aid to Uganda and Rwanda, part of the coalition of the willing, which has been spent on weapons to extract resources from the DRC. American companies have signed huge mining concessions with rebel groups which funds and continues the conflict. America supported the dictator Mobutu for over 30 years then dumped him when he was no longer useful.
Yes the USA is heavily, deeply involved in the Congo tragedy. Its working out well isn't it?

The Congo is being screwed over by The West in general. Canadian mining companies are pouring more money in than anybody and Sarkozy has been deeply involved trying to set up a windfall for resource extraction interests.

brianthebard

Lirange wrote: »

The Congo is being screwed over by The West in general. Canadian mining companies are pouring more money in than anybody and Sarkozy has been deeply involved trying to set up a windfall for resource extraction interests.

I know that, I was replying to the suggestion that the situation would be better if the US did something about it.

Overheal

Terry wrote: »

I do and I have my reasons.
Unsanctioned invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Gitmo and the breaches of the Geneva convention make him twice as bad as the supposed terrorists he was chasing.

His close relationship with the Saudis (A country which treats women as slaves) was sickening (Obama is no different).

Anyway, that's just my opinion.

There's a poll.
Vote in it in the way you want. It's private.
Feel free to voice your own opinion within the site rules.

My opinion, and the US Politics thread on this subject, here:

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055475383

I guess I'd have to go with Option 3 on the poll, btw.